Kenneth Starr says he shouldn't have been involved in Lewinsky case

[gldstwmn]

http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/11633179p-12522663c.html

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) - Kenneth Starr says he never should have led the investigation that resulted in the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton.
The former independent counsel, now dean of the Pepperdine University law school, says "the most fundamental thing that could have been done differently" was for somebody else to have investigated Clinton's statements under oath denying he had an affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

Starr said his role in a yearslong investigation of Clinton should have focused instead on Clinton's role in the failed Arkansas land deal known as Whitewater.

"There was a sense on the part of the country that my (Lewinsky) effort was an effort somehow to expand the (Whitewater) investigation, when it was separate," he told the Santa Barbara News-Press following a speech on Wednesday.

Clinton has accused Starr of running a partisan, Republican effort to ruin his presidency. Starr, however, defended the integrity of the investigation.

"It reinforced the proposition that all of us are subject to the law, no matter how high our station," he said. "The facts are the facts."

At his 1999 impeachment trial, Clinton was acquitted by the Senate of perjury and obstruction of justice. The Whitewater case ended with the conviction of Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and two of Clinton's former business partners for fraud and conspiracy. Clinton was never charged.

[strandinthewind]

KS was so wrong for that position. But, the R's wanted a witch hunter and that is what they got. Moreover, Reno approved it :eek: I will always say Clinton was wrong and broke the law - but the Star investigation was the biggest bit witch hunting I have ever seen - EVER :mad:

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http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/11633179p-12522663c.html

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) - Kenneth Starr says he never should have led the investigation that resulted in the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton.

:laugh: What an ass.

He could have easily taken himself out of the investigation. Instead, he chose to invade the privacy of the president and publish a pornographic "report" that not only embarassed the country, but read like something out of the Penthouse Forums. Hindsight is 20/20, but Mr. Starr *loved* going after Clinton and relished pissing off the lefties.

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Moreover, Reno approved it :eek:

I suspect her waddle was hanging quite low that morning, obstructing her view so that she couldn't quite see what she was signing off on. :xoxo:

[GypsySorcerer]

I suspect her waddle was hanging quite low that morning, obstructing her view so that she couldn't quite see what she was signing off on. :xoxo:


What a lovely thought. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: What an ass.

He could have easily taken himself out of the investigation. Instead, he chose to invade the privacy of the president and publish a pornographic "report" that not only embarassed the country, but read like something out of the Penthouse Forums. Hindsight is 20/20, but Mr. Starr *loved* going after Clinton and relished pissing off the lefties.

Interesting - but wrong from a legal point of view - Clinton was accused of sexual harrassment - the Lewinsky affair was relevant to establish a patern of activity. So, once it reached that point, the question was relevant. My point is Starr's investigation lasted so long and meandered so much that it was a witch hunt. Granted Clinton made it easy for them with Lewinsky and the cover up (and there was one :nod: ) - but the Starr commission should have ended three years before that IMO but Reno kept broadening it - why I have NO MF idea. Now - this does not mean he did not screw that harpy Paula Jones (can you say celebrity death match :laugh: ) - of course he did - and that was bad of him and just shows poor taste LOL

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What a lovely thought. :laugh:

That? Was my favorite episode of Ally McBeal. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

I suspect her waddle was hanging quite low that morning, obstructing her view so that she couldn't quite see what she was signing off on. :xoxo:

LMAO - I have net her - she is nice and I liked her as the Atty Gen. - she was FAR from perfect, but at least she recognized that the Const. cannot be strictly applied :shrug:

[amber]

Now - this does not mean he did not screw that harpy Paula Jones (can you say celebrity death match :laugh: ) - of course he did - and that was bad of him and just shows poor taste LOL
:laugh: :laugh:
Seriously, you'd think a politician could have hotter tail.... :lol:

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LMAO - I have net her - she is nice and I liked her as the Atty Gen. - she was FAR from perfect, but at least she recognized that the Const. cannot be strictly applied :shrug:

She seems like a stand-up gal, I liked her a lot. Liked Albright, too, who I met and loved. Surprisingly warm. :eek:

[amber]

LMAO - I have net her - she is nice and I liked her as the Atty Gen. - she was FAR from perfect, but at least she recognized that the Const. cannot be strictly applied :shrug:
Is there anyone in the world you haven't met? I'm having dreams that i met you, and i never have... :laugh: right? :confused:

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:laugh: :laugh:
Seriously, you'd think a politician could have hotter tail.... :lol:

OMG, Paula Jones' nose looked like some mutated thing found on Three Mile Island. I think it was an independent organism renting space smack dab in the center of her face.

[strandinthewind]

Is there anyone in the world you haven't met? I'm having dreams that i met you, and i never have... :laugh: right? :confused:

I do not know how I do it LOL :eek: But, no, we have never met :wavey:

[amber]

OMG, Paula Jones' nose looked like some mutated thing found on Three Mile Island. I think it was an independent organism renting space smack dab in the center of her face.
:laugh: :laugh:
Her nose and JLo's butt probably know each other... :laugh: from the "independent entities with human hosts" club... :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

OMG, Paula Jones' nose looked like some mutated thing found on Three Mile Island. I think it was an independent organism renting space smack dab in the center of her face.

Imagine if she had J-Lo's ass - OH wait - she DID :laugh: :eek:

Ya know - Jenifer Flowers had a caberet act in New Orleans for a long time. I met her after the show one night (shut up Amner :laugh: ) - we did not discuss Clinton :laugh: She was actually attractive at least in relation to Jones :eek:

[gldstwmn]

Interesting - but wrong from a legal point of view - Clinton was accused of sexual harrassment - the Lewinsky affair was relevant to establish a patern of activity. So, once it reached that point, the question was relevant. My point is Starr's investigation lasted so long and meandered so much that it was a witch hunt. Granted Clinton made it easy for them with Lewinsky and the cover up (and there was one :nod: ) - but the Starr commission should have ended three years before that IMO but Reno kept broadening it - why I have NO MF idea. Now - this does not mean he did not screw that harpy Paula Jones (can you say celebrity death match :laugh: ) - of course he did - and that was bad of him and just shows poor taste LOL

Clinton never slept with Paula Jones. In fact, he wasn't even at the hotel at the time she says he exposed himself to her. Even Jones never said they slept together.

[amber]

Imagine if she had J-Lo's ass - OH wait - she DID :laugh: :eek:

Jinx! Owe me some coke! wait, i mean, A coke...

[strandinthewind]

Clinton never slept with Paula Jones. In fact, he wasn't even at the hotel at the time she says he exposed himself to her. Even Jones never said they slept together.

Then what did he do with her - It has been so long I have forgotten :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Then what did he do with her - It has been so long I have forgotten :laugh:

Look it up and get your facts straight. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Jinx! Owe me some coke! wait, i mean, A coke...

LOL - great minds . . . :eek: :eek: :eek: :laugh:

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Imagine if she had J-Lo's ass - OH wait - she DID :laugh: :eek:

Ya know - Jenifer Flowers had a caberet act in New Orleans for a long time. I met her after the show one night (shut up Amner :laugh: ) - we did not discuss Clinton :laugh: She was actually attractive at least in relation to Jones :eek:

She had J Lo's ass, Maureen Stapleton's arms, and Howard the Duck's choppers. And that hair looked like something you'd find in Tonya Harding's yearbook photo. Trailer chic.

Child, don't even get me started on Linda Tripp.

Flowers looks like Elizabeth Taylor next to those beasts.

[amber]

(shut up Amner :laugh: )
Ah, yes..."shut up Amner" the outcry of many...I believe there's a club you can join???

[strandinthewind]

Look it up and get your facts straight. :wavey:

Child - I have too much to do - but whatever he did to her - he paid her in the end and was related to sex :shrug: The penetration, while certainly gives a glimmer that his taste in women is not THAT horrible, is irrelevant :cool:

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Then what did he do with her - It has been so long I have forgotten :laugh:

Nothing, he supposedly exposed himself but evidence shows he wasn't in the hotel that night. He had an affair with Flowers. :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

She had J Lo's ass, Maureen Stapleton's arms, and Howard the Duck's choppers. And that hair looked like something you'd find in Tonya Harding's yearbook photo. Trailer chic.

Child, don't even get me started on Linda Tripp.

Flowers looks like Elizabeth Taylor next to those beasts.

John Goodman on a toilet on Sat. Night Live as that brand of ketchup Tripp is proabably the funniest thing I have ever seen EVER :laugh:

"What are you eating?" "Oh a rice cake" FFFLLUUUSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!

[amber]

LOL - great minds . . . :eek: :eek: :eek: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
I have to submit, mine was funnier... :p
Her nose and JLo's butt probably know each other... from the "independent entities with human hosts" club...

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John Goodman on a toilet on Sat. Night Live as that brand of ketchup Tripp is proabably the funniest thing I have ever seen EVER :laugh:

"What are you eating?" "Oh a rice cake" FFFLLUUUSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And the funny thing? Goodman's more attractive than Tripp. :eek:

If it came out that Clinton had an affair with Tripp, I would have picketed for his impeachment. ;)

[amber]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And the funny thing? Goodman's more attractive than Tripp. :eek:

If it came out that Clinton had an affair with Tripp, I would have picketed for his impeachment. ;)
On the grounds his taste is so terrible he's not fit to run the country? :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Nothing, he supposedly exposed himself but evidence shows he wasn't in the hotel that night. He had an affair with Flowers. :wavey:

That's right - he said young lady come here and serve you country or something like that :eek: and when she did not, she alleged a hostile work environment - Oh Billy Boy :laugh:

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On the grounds his taste is so terrible he's not fit to run the country? :laugh:

Bet your ass. :laugh:

Like I said earlier, I'd rather walk through Hell wearing a gasoline bra and panties set while breastfeeding Gary Coleman before I'd even consider touching Linda Tripp with a ten foot pole.

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That's right - he said young lady come here and serve you country or something like that :eek: and when she did not, she alleged a hostile work environment - Oh Billy Boy :laugh:

I guess it beats "What's your sign?" :laugh:

[amber]

Bet your ass. :laugh:

Like I said earlier, I'd rather walk through Hell wearing a gasoline bra and panties set while breastfeeding Gary Coleman before I'd even consider touching Linda Tripp with a ten foot pole.
:laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
you and me both. Course, i can't boast a ten foot pole...but still!

[strandinthewind]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And the funny thing? Goodman's more attractive than Tripp. :eek:

If it came out that Clinton had an affair with Tripp, I would have picketed for his impeachment. ;)

Linda - what's that clicking sound :laugh:

Here is a link to it http://snltranscripts.jt.org/97/97lmonicatripp.phtml

I laughed so much finding it :laugh:

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:laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh:
you and me both. Course, i can't boast a ten foot pole...but still!

Not all of us can, only the blessed creatures like myself...and probably Linda Tripp pre-surgery. :cool:

[amber]

Not all of us can, only the blessed creatures like myself...and probably Linda Tripp pre-surgery. :cool:
hehehehehehehehehe.... :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I guess it beats "What's your sign?" :laugh:

Bless his a cheatin' heart :laugh: :laugh: - I'd take him back any day of the week over Kerry or W :nod:

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Linda - what's that clicking sound :laugh:

Here is a link to it http://snltranscripts.jt.org/97/97lmonicatripp.phtml

I laughed so much finding it :laugh:

Ixnay on the ellitio-fay!!!!!!!!!!! Or there'll be no job at evlon-Ray!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[amber]

Linda - what's that clicking sound :laugh:

Here is a link to it http://snltranscripts.jt.org/97/97lmonicatripp.phtml

I laughed so much finding it :laugh:
Omigod, i hadn't seen that. Thanks for the transcript... :laugh: :laugh: "I can't believe 2 hours to go down...bent in the middle..."

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Bless his a cheatin' heart :laugh: :laugh: - I'd take him back any day of the week over Kerry or W :nod:

I'd take pre-1995 Bill over anything else. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

I'd take pre-1995 Bill over anything else. :woohoo:

I was just gonna post that - but even post-95 - I'd take him over this tripe we have now :eek:

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I was just gonna post that - but even post-95 - I'd take him over this tripe we have now :eek:

I wasn't a fan of term two Bill Clinton. He was a Republican in Democrat clothing for much of that period.

[strandinthewind]

Ixnay on the ellitio-fay!!!!!!!!!!! Or there'll be no job at evlon-Ray!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

BBBWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

But the FLUSH was the best ever :nod: Didn't Goodman fart as well :eek:

[amber]

I wasn't a fan of term two Bill Clinton. He was a Republican in Democrat clothing for much of that period.
:nod: :nod: :nod:

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BBBWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

But the FLUSH was the best ever :nod: Didn't Goodman fart as well :eek:

Yes. :laugh:

And his facial contortions had me in hysterics. :laugh: That was the role he was born to play!!!!!!!

[strandinthewind]

I wasn't a fan of term two Bill Clinton. He was a Republican in Democrat clothing for much of that period.

Oh - I agree - bt I'd still take that over W or Kerry - which does not say much favorable about W and Kerry :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Yes. :laugh:

And his facial contortions had me in hysterics. :laugh: That was the role he was born to play!!!!!!!

I used to have a copy of it somewhere. I wish I could find it RIGHT NOW :laugh:

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Oh - I agree - bt I'd still take that over W or Kerry - which does not say much favorable about W and Kerry :laugh:

I hate and loathe and wish suffering on W with every fiber of my being and Kerry lost me for good with his scumbag tricks. So, yes, I'd take any Clinton over the two of them. Hell, gimme Chelsea or Socks. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Here is a pretty cool and IMO fair article on the Jones suit (DAMN YOU GOLDIE :laugh: )

http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/government/jones/staylor.html

[gldstwmn]

Here is a pretty cool and IMO fair article on the Jones suit (DAMN YOU GOLDIE :laugh: )

http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/government/jones/staylor.html

There's very little in that article that hasn't been debunked. You need to read The Hunting Of The President.

[strandinthewind]

IMO not really - the 1996 article contains correct references to Jones' claims and Clinton's actions in retort. But, yes, more facts were discovered later.

I did - it was a VERY good read. But, I took issue with some of the facts they asserted - they were based on people's opinions, etc. Then again, I am a natural skeptic :laugh: But, I do think the R's did pretty much everything the authors asserted and if they did not it is only because they did not think of it first :nod:

[strandinthewind]

BTW - http://www.thehuntingofthepresident.com for those interested!!!!!!

AND - how about Brock's take? :nod:

[gldstwmn]

BTW - http://www.thehuntingofthepresident.com for those interested!!!!!!

AND - how about Brock's take? :nod:

Brock is the smoking gun.

[estranged4life]

Hell, gimme Chelsea or Socks. :laugh:

I hope ya didnt mean that in a sexual sense :shrug: :lol: :thumbsup:

Brian j.

[SuzeQuze]

What a jackass. After all this time he's going to say he shouldn't have been part of this? It's maddening. I hate what he did to the President. I agree with strand that Clinton broke the law and lied but certainly the punishment did not fit the crime. It's rediculous.

[SuzeQuze]

Bet your ass. :laugh:

Like I said earlier, I'd rather walk through Hell wearing a gasoline bra and panties set while breastfeeding Gary Coleman before I'd even consider touching Linda Tripp with a ten foot pole.

What a nasty woman, and I do not mean her looks. But in her case they reflect what's on the inside.

[SuzeQuze]

Ixnay on the ellitio-fay!!!!!!!!!!! Or there'll be no job at evlon-Ray!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Omigod, that one had me in tears, HAHAHAHA. :lol: :lol:

[SuzeQuze]

Brock is the smoking gun.

Smells like a "vast right wing conspiracy" to me. Thanks for this reference, I hadn't heard of it before. I am reading Clinton's autobiography though which shows his side of the story regarding Whitewater. He doesn't say much about the sexual stuff just that he is imperfect and made mistakes. I don't blame him for not being more candid though because Hill would castrate him herself.

[gldstwmn]

Smells like a "vast right wing conspiracy" to me. Thanks for this reference, I hadn't heard of it before. I am reading Clinton's autobiography though which shows his side of the story regarding Whitewater. He doesn't say much about the sexual stuff just that he is imperfect and made mistakes. I don't blame him for not being more candid though because Hill would castrate him herself.

Just Google David Brock Richard Mellon Scaife and see what comes up. That's a big part of the vast right wing conspiracy right there.