Movies to Look Forward To

[littlelies7]

IMHO, not much there to see... until Christmas.

What films are you anticipating for?


I'm going to see "The Phantom of the Opera" on its opening day. My town's been fortunate on having it on the 22nd of next month. :blob2: :blob2:

Maybe "The Aviator", but that's its.

P.S.: Recent news on "The Da Vinci Code" movie.
Tom Hanks is going to play Robert Langdon.

[dissention]

Vera Drake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I went to see it last week but the print got BURNED twenty minutes in. They just got a replacement this past weekend and I can't wait to finish it. :laugh:

There's a movie coming out about Summerhill Academy that I'd like to see, too, called "Summerhill."

[madformac]

Not a great deal I'm looking forward to at the moment but I can't wait to see the extended DVD version of Lord Of The Rings - Return Of The King in December.. :nod: :nod:

:wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

As pathetic as it sounds, because of my panic attacks, I haven't seen a movie in a theatre since 1989 (the first 'Batman' with Michael Keaton).

I would love to see 'Phantom Of The Opera' on the big screen though. So much so that I'd be willing to risk the panic attacks!

Hey, Curtis... wanna take me? ;)

[Moony]

I can't wait to see the extended DVD version of Lord Of The Rings - Return Of The King in December.. :nod: :nod:

:wavey:

Me neither! They added about 50 minutes back into the movie! :]

I'm looking forward to seeing:

A Series of Unfortunate Events
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Star Wars Episode 3 (I know, I know...but I want to see it..)

I also cannot wait until Napoleon Dynamite comes out on DVD!!!!!!

[Moony]

As pathetic as it sounds, because of my panic attacks, I haven't seen a movie in a theatre since 1989 (the first 'Batman' with Michael Keaton).


:eek: :eek:

Panic attacks? Do the crowds set them off...?

[Johnny Stew]

:eek: :eek:

Panic attacks? Do the crowds set them off...?

Unfortunately, a lot of things set them off! :laugh: :o

But, yes, large crowds of people set them off. At this point though, unfamiliar situations can do it too (such as going somewhere I've never been).

I really am more stable than I sound. :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Hey, Curtis... wanna take me? ;)


Absolutely :)


I really want to see Closer. I think it looks good.


...and that TV movie that's coming on next week: 10 People You Meet In Heaven...or 7...err.....something like it. It looks interesting.

[Moony]

Unfortunately, a lot of things set them off! :laugh: :o

But, yes, large crowds of people set them off. At this point though, unfamiliar situations can do it too (such as going somewhere I've never been).

I really am more stable than I sound. :laugh:

LOL...awww... I think neuroses are so cute.. :xoxo:

At least you have an excuse to avoid going places!

[dissention]

I really want to see Closer. I think it looks good.

Mike Nichols removed all of Miss Portman's full-frontal scenes, so you should be happy. :laugh:

I saw the full-length trailer for Phantom when I saw Bridget Jones yesterday afternoon and I was rather underwhelmed. As soon as I saw Schumacher's name flash on-screen, I knew it would be awful.

[Moony]

I saw the full-length trailer for Phantom when I saw Bridget Jones yesterday afternoon and I was rather underwhelmed. As soon as I saw Schumacher's name flash on-screen, I knew it would be awful

How was Bridget Jones? I would see it but I cannot stand Renee "I'm an ugly bulldog faced b*tch" Zellwegger. :angel: And you're right, Schumacher's name is a very bad omen. I would be a bit worried..

[amber]

Unfortunately, a lot of things set them off! :laugh: :o

But, yes, large crowds of people set them off. At this point though, unfamiliar situations can do it too (such as going somewhere I've never been).

I really am more stable than I sound. :laugh:
I have those sometimes. :) Not so much recently, but a few years back i had a weeklong one. I finally had to go to the emergency room. I couldn't function, really. But now it rarely happens, I can usually breathe my way out of it. But i didn't feel that way AT ALL at the mac shows, thank goodness. I was too happy! :D

[ontheEdgeof17]

LOL...awww... I think neuroses are so cute.. :xoxo:

At least you have an excuse to avoid going places!


I have panic disorder, too. But I can finally say "F**k it!" and go on my merry way after an attack. Standing under skyscrapers KILL ME. I walk around Pittsburgh with a paper bag just in case. :thumbsup:

[amber]

How was Bridget Jones? I would see it but I cannot stand Renee "I'm an ugly bulldog faced b*tch" Zellwegger. :angel: And you're right, Schumacher's name is a very bad omen. I would be a bit worried..
yay, someone else who doesn't so much care for Renee "a squinchy eyed smile is acting" Zellweger... :)

[ontheEdgeof17]

Mike Nichols removed all of Miss Portman's full-frontal scenes, so you should be happy. :laugh:[/I]


There is a God. :angel:

[amber]

I have panic disorder, too. But I can finally say "F**k it!" and go on my merry way after an attack. Standing under skyscrapers KILL ME. I walk around Pittsburgh with a paper bag just in case. :thumbsup:
wow! skyscrapers! that's interesting....
when i had the bad ones, I would pretty much faint afterwards - fall asleep, really, but still. It was bizarre...I guess it took so much energy that it was just *crash* afterword :confused:

[dissention]

How was Bridget Jones? I would see it but I cannot stand Renee "I'm an ugly bulldog faced b*tch" Zellwegger. :angel: And you're right, Schumacher's name is a very bad omen. I would be a bit worried..

I love Renee. :angel: I think she's a cutie and quite a good actress. I'm curious to see her Joplin flick.

Bridget Jones was hilarious. I had heard bad things about it for some reason, but if you liked the first one, you'll love the new one; it's even funnier than the first. Hugh Grant isn't in it much, so that's a good thing, and the situations in it are so ridiculous but so hysterical. Bridget's such a buffoon, the kind of girl I'd like to date. :laugh:

[dissention]

There is a God. :angel:

But no word on whether or not Julia bares any skin. :eek:

If so, the film should come with a warning.

"This film may blind you. Viewer discretion advised."

[amber]

But no word on whether or not Julia bares any skin. :eek:

If so, the film should come with a warning.

"This film may blind you. Viewer discretion advised."
I thought you liked girls? :laugh:

[Moony]

I have panic disorder, too. But I can finally say "F**k it!" and go on my merry way after an attack. Standing under skyscrapers KILL ME. I walk around Pittsburgh with a paper bag just in case. :thumbsup:

How weird LOL - is it like a fear they will fall down on you?

I guess I sort of have one of those things as well - being out in the ocean freaks me out to no end! I love the ocean, but I do not like swimming or sailing upon it. Don't know if it would qualify for a panic attack though.

I love Renee. I think she's a cutie and quite a good actress. I'm curious to see her Joplin flick.

Bridget Jones was hilarious. I had heard bad things about it for some reason, but if you liked the first one, you'll love the new one; it's even funnier than the first. Hugh Grant isn't in it much, so that's a good thing, and the situations in it are so ridiculous but so hysterical. Bridget's such a buffoon, the kind of girl I'd like to date.

Well, ever since I saw Chicago I have hated her, but I did think the first BJ (hehe) was pretty funny. Who knows, maybe I'll come around - but probably not.

On a sidenote, I saw Alexander last wednesday...not very good at all.

[ontheEdgeof17]

This is why you are my F.H. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:wavey:


Then who is mine? :shrug:

[amber]

This is why you are my F.H. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:wavey:
oh yeah! I forgot! sweeeeet... :laugh:

[dissention]

I thought you liked girls? :laugh:

I like Miss Portman, but Roberts is gross. :eek:

[amber]

We could share...?

She was mine first!!!
If there's enough F. to go around, I certainly have enough Hag! :laugh: Moony does live 1.5 hours from me...but still.

[ontheEdgeof17]

If there's enough F. to go around, I certainly have enough Hag! :laugh: Moony does live 1.5 hours from me...but still.


Nah.

I pick my girl, Hillary. :wavey:

[amber]

I like Miss Portman, but Roberts is gross. :eek:
yeah, i don't like either of them, but Miss portman may be prettier.

[amber]

Nah.

I pick my girl, Hillary. :wavey:
well, if you already had one, why didn't you just say? :p

[ontheEdgeof17]

I like Miss Portman, but Roberts is gross. :eek:


I don't think she is that unattractive. I've seen a lot worse. She always looks clean and put together. Yeah yeah, she has horse teeth, but I'm willing to put her out to pasture when necessary.

[amber]

LMAO@enough hag... :laugh:

Try 45 minutes dear - I'll be right over! ;)
oh, good, you drive fast! thank goodness....see, yet another reason it was meant to be :p :xoxo:

[hayley]

I think the only ones I want to see that aren't out yet or I haven't gotten a chance to see yet are Phantom, Kinsey, Closer, The Life Aquatic, Lemony Snicket, and Finding Neverland.

I'm not a major Phantom nerd or anything, but I have really been looking forward to it. I initially wanted to vomit when I heard Schumacher was doing it, and still do, but I've seen footage of the film (my company has the soundtrack, and a few months ago they played us a few reels) and it actually calmed me down a bit. I've listened to the soundtrack a lot in the last few weeks, and it's not bad. Gerard Butler is excellent. Emmy Rossum isn't too bad, either- she's no Sarah Brightman (who I'm actually not a fan of at all outside of Phantom), and at the climax with all the vocal gyrations and gymnastics she falls short- she's clearly straining- but she's better than I expected.

Diss- you liked BJ2? I'm still ambivalent on it. I loved the first film, and while I laughed my ass off at the sequel, it was just too farcical for me. I had the same problem with the book. I think Ebert said that in the first film, things happen to Bridget, and in the second film, Bridget happens to things- and that distinction does bug me. She wasn't this much of a buffoon in the first film. And, of course, there was no way for them to put in what was hands-down the funniest part of the book- Bridget's "interview" with Colin Firth.

[GateandGarden]

Bridget Jones was hilarious. I had heard bad things about it for some reason, but if you liked the first one, you'll love the new one; it's even funnier than the first. Hugh Grant isn't in it much, so that's a good thing, and the situations in it are so ridiculous but so hysterical. Bridget's such a buffoon, the kind of girl I'd like to date. :laugh:I saw it and I HATED it with a passion. Ugh. Such a waste of time. I really thought the first one was funny, but this one was so ridiculous, and far too much like the other one, and not in a good way. Could they have not recycled all the same jokes? And why the ridiculous plot with the prison and drugs? That was hard to take. Also, I might have actually believed that chick was a lesbian, had it been in the context of a movie that didn't suck in a big way. I think it was one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile, save for that God-awful TV movie I saw on the Disney channel the other night, Pixel Perfect. You see I'm not holding back. :D :p

I'm really looking forward to Phantom, too. I love that musical, and they better not ruin it! That's probably hard to do, though.

I'm also looking forward to Lemony Snicket. I have to admit that I haven't read the books, though. I've just heard all about them and I figure the movie will be entertaining.

Hillary

[Moony]

I'm also looking forward to Lemony Snicket. I have to admit that I haven't read the books, though. I've just heard all about them and I figure the movie will be entertaining.

Hillary[/COLOR]

You really should read them - some of the best writing for children I've ever read! They are hilarious. :wavey:

[dissention]

I saw it and I HATED it with a passion. Ugh. Such a waste of time. I really thought the first one was funny, but this one was so ridiculous, and far too much like the other one, and not in a good way. Could they have not recycled all the same jokes? And why the ridiculous plot with the prison and drugs? That was hard to take. Also, I might have actually believed that chick was a lesbian, had it been in the context of a movie that didn't suck in a big way. I think it was one of the worst movies I've seen in awhile, save for that God-awful TV movie I saw on the Disney channel the other night, Pixel Perfect. You see I'm not holding back. :D :p

It had to be ridiculous, that character is ridiculous. :laugh: Have you read the book, though? There's no possible way that they could have made it anything like the book because Colin Firth is a character in it. :cool: The Thailand drug bust was ridiculous, the lesbian lawyer was insipid, but I still laughed.

I didn't go into expecting it to be an Oscar worthy flick, I just wanted to laugh. It made me laugh, so I was happy. :D

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Diss- you liked BJ2? I'm still ambivalent on it. I loved the first film, and while I laughed my ass off at the sequel, it was just too farcical for me. I had the same problem with the book. I think Ebert said that in the first film, things happen to Bridget, and in the second film, Bridget happens to things- and that distinction does bug me. She wasn't this much of a buffoon in the first film. And, of course, there was no way for them to put in what was hands-down the funniest part of the book- Bridget's "interview" with Colin Firth.

I liked it a lot. It's a feel good movie without being sappy and sugary. I knew going in that they were going to step up the shenanigans much more and that they couldn't possibly make it like the book (which many people hated, much to my surprise), so I just wanted to enjoy it. And I did. :)

And Kinsey is phenomenal. :wavey: Neeson and Linney will both be nominated for Oscars.

[Johnny Stew]

Absolutely :)
Yaye! :blob2:

;)

[Serrart]

It's a good period for movies here: last week I've watched some very good ones:
Maria Full Of Grace: tough, but very intense and well acted
Exils: a travel movie developed in a very soulful way (and the soundtrack is extraordinary)
Immortal Ad Vitam: a science-fiction film with a lot of digital effects, but quite surprising and a very solid storyline.
Un mundo menos peor: a family drama, very real and poetic. The director Alejandro Agresti, is already been kidnapped by Hollywood :(

Now I'm looking forward to:
Confidences trop intimes - I like the actors (Fabrice Luchini and Sandrine Bonnaire) and the story sounds intriguing
Eros -especially for the episode by Wong Kar Wai
Melinda and Melinda- Woody Allen is a faith :nod:
The Agronomist - I have to reconcile with my admiration for Jonathan Demme, quite shaken after The Truth About Charlie and The Manchurian candidate.

Romy

[Johnny Stew]

I saw the full-length trailer for Phantom when I saw Bridget Jones yesterday afternoon and I was rather underwhelmed. As soon as I saw Schumacher's name flash on-screen, I knew it would be awful.

I've watched the main trailer and a few alternate ones, and it was the trailers that really kicked my desire to see the film into high gear, despite the fact that I've been a 'Phantom' fan since 1987.

Love him or hate him, Schumacher is a very visual director... and I think that's exactly what 'Phantom' needed. It should be lavish, and glamourous, and exceedingly romantic in its visuals, to match the score.

[Johnny Stew]

LOL...awww... I think neuroses are so cute.. :xoxo:

At least you have an excuse to avoid going places!

Aw, shucks, Mister. :o :xoxo:

[Johnny Stew]

I'm not a major Phantom nerd or anything, but I have really been looking forward to it. I initially wanted to vomit when I heard Schumacher was doing it, and still do, but I've seen footage of the film (my company has the soundtrack, and a few months ago they played us a few reels) and it actually calmed me down a bit. I've listened to the soundtrack a lot in the last few weeks, and it's not bad. Gerard Butler is excellent. Emmy Rossum isn't too bad, either- she's no Sarah Brightman (who I'm actually not a fan of at all outside of Phantom), and at the climax with all the vocal gyrations and gymnastics she falls short- she's clearly straining- but she's better than I expected.

Hayley... sweetheart... darling... if you have any 'Phantom' freebies you'd like to send my way.... ;) :laugh:
Just kidding. :)

I pre-ordered the 2-disc version of the soundtrack on amazon.com (my Christmas gift to myself), so I was able to listen to streaming audio of the highlights disc, and when I did, I was a little worried. It wasn't impressing me, and I wasn't too fond of the way the actors chose to interpret some of the lines.

But, I received the set last Wednesday, and once I sat down to listen to it in context, I was VERY impressed.

I think some of my initial misgivings mainly had to do with being so extremely familiar with the original London cast recording. Not to mention Sarah Brightman's flawless portrayal of Christine. I'm also quite a fan of Steve Barton (Raoul), but have never been completely enamoured by Michael Crawford (though I don't hate him).
So something "different" was going to have a lot to live up to.

But I'm thoroughly pleased, and have no major complaints.

Now I just can't wait to see the film!

[Johnny Stew]

My friend just saw it and was very underwhelmed. He's not a big musical fan though, so maybe he's not the best judge!

I love musicals. :o

Sometimes I'm such a stereotype. :shocked:

[dissention]

I've watched the main trailer and a few alternate ones, and it was the trailers that really kicked my desire to see the film into high gear, despite the fact that I've been a 'Phantom' fan since 1987.

Love him or hate him, Schumacher is a very visual director... and I think that's exactly what 'Phantom' needed. It should be lavish, and glamourous, and exceedingly romantic in its visuals, to match the score.

I hate him. :laugh: He's a hack.

From what I saw in the trailer, it really wasn't anything spectacular visually. The swirling cameras seemed to have done all the work. Minnie Driver looks fab, though.

I read that Andrew Lloyd Weber isn't too happy with it, either.

[dissention]

8. War Of The Worlds

You'll be waiting a long time for that one. :laugh:

To be honest, I'm content with the version from the fifties. I *shudder* to think of what Spielberg will do to it. And Tom Cruise? Oy vey. But, who knows, maybe I'll be surprised.

[estranged4life]

a rumor or is in fact factual (That it will see light of day as Kevin Smith has recently stated) I plan to see just one movie in the near future:

Clerks 2

Brian j.

[amber]

I hate him. :laugh: He's a hack.

From what I saw in the trailer, it really wasn't anything spectacular visually. The swirling cameras seemed to have done all the work. Minnie Driver looks fab, though.

I read that Andrew Lloyd Weber isn't too happy with it, either.
Minnie Driver! oh, no...Wait, actually, there is no way in hell i would ever see that movie anyway. whew!

[dissention]

I'm looking forward to Savage Grace with Juilanne Moore and Clive Owen, too. That should be a good one.

[estranged4life]

To be honest, I'm content with the version from the fifties. I *shudder* to think of what Spielberg will do to it. And Tom Cruise? Oy vey. But, who knows, maybe I'll be surprised.

of the CLASSIC "War of the Worlds" is the kinda **** that makes one WANT to wear a pair of "Depends" on their head so when they projectile vomit at the theatre they wont hit the moviegoer seated directly in front of the proposed vomit path.

Brian "Hollyweird-Fresh outta ideas...Time to REHASH the classics" j.

[amber]

You know she's just released an album here in Britain Amber!
So shall I get you a copy? :laugh:
yeah, i read about that in our paper :laugh: aw, she's ok, i guess. Have you heard it? does it suck?

[dissention]

:shrug: I realise some people don't rate Spielberg but I love his movies. Jaws, the Indy films, ET are all classics to me (and many others). I also love HG Wells, so to ME its a great combination.

As for a long wait, the British Film Distributor's Association have it down for a July 8 release, so UIP must be planning it as one of its big summer releases otherwise it wouldn't have told the FDA that date.

Spielberg isn't all he's cracked up to be. He's very cloying at times and panders to the lowest common denominator. I wish he'd make more films like Empire of the Sun or The Color Purple instead of crap like Catch Me If You Can and The Terminal. He hasn't made a watchable flick since Schindler's List, IMO. And with such a staggering budget, I'm worried that WOTW will turn into nothing but a special effects extravaganza and nothing else. A bloated wreck of a film is what I expect.

It's scheduled for June 29th here, but they just started shooting in September and there was an article in Variety a few weeks ago that said they'll never make the deadline. We'll see, though.

[dissention]

yeah, i read about that in our paper :laugh: aw, she's ok, i guess. Have you heard it? does it suck?

I listened to clips in B&N Friday morning and quite liked it. Would have to hear it again, though. Amazon has clips, I think.

[amber]

Spielberg isn't all he's cracked up to be. He's very cloying at times and panders to the lowest common denominator. I wish he'd make for films like Empire of the Sun or The Color Purple instead of crap like Catch Me If You Can and The Terminal. He hasn't made a watchable flick since Schindler's List, IMO. And with such a staggering budget, I'm worried that WOTW will turn into nothing but a special effects extravaganza and nothing else. A bloated wreck of a film is what I expect.

It's scheduled for June 29th here, but they just started shooting in September and there was an article in Variety a few weeks ago that said they'll never make the deadline. We'll see, though.
That could happen, but it could be good, too. OOOO, just in time for my b-day! :laugh: :lol: Actually, i don't especially love or hate spielberg, but we all know how i feel about Tom. mmmmm....

[dissention]

That could happen, but it could be good, too. OOOO, just in time for my b-day! :laugh: :lol: Actually, i don't especially love or hate spielberg, but we all know how i feel about Tom. mmmmm....

Spielberg's involved in the adaptation of Stephen King's The Talisman and I just know he's going to ruin it. I can't stand Stephen King, but that book is a masterpiece. :nod:

[estranged4life]

Brian the only thing I'll say about that is that it's not a remake (the same goes for Charlie And The Chocolate Factory) it's merely another adaptation of the book.

I don't see the problem. If it's crap, people will just remember the original more fondly (ie Planet Of The Apes), but if it's good, well that's a bad thing? :shrug:

seen of the promo shots of "War of the Worlds" it will TANK faster than Men In Black 2...Tom Cruise + remake = DUD!! (see Mission Impossible, I saw this movie when it was released and I thought it royally sucked :lol: )

Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, however, should be very good as long as it stays faithful to the original book (I'm in the minority, But I also like the musical cause I am a Gene Wilder fan!)

I think Hollyweird should do MORE original ideas and not ruin the classics as they have often done with lame ass "megastars" in remakes that reek (ie-"Oceans 11")

Brian j.

[amber]

Spielberg's involved in the adaptation of Stephen King's The Talisman and I just know he's going to ruin it. I can't stand Stephen King, but that book is a masterpiece. :nod:
Yeah, but how often has a movie been better than the book anyways? Once? In all of Time? :laugh: so, yeah, he probably will ruin it...

[dissention]

Let's make this very clear, this is YOUR opinion. I think often he is all he's cracked up to be.
I haven't seen The Terminal but I loved Catch Me If You Can, and I know many people with very sophisticated tastes in films who loved it too.
Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with making films that millions of people like.

Let's make this very clear:

I said In My Opinion in my post. ;)

[amber]

seen of the promo shots of "War of the Worlds" it will TANK faster than Men In Black 2...Tom Cruise + remake + DUD!! (see Mission Impossible :lol: )

Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, however, should be very good as long as it stays faithful to the original book (I'm in the minority, But I also like the musical cause I am a Gene Wilder fan!)

I think Hollyweird should do MORE original ideas and not ruin the classics as they have often done with lame ass "megastars" in remakes that reek (ie-"Oceans 11")

Brian j.
Um, i don't think the Mission Impossibles "tanked"

[amber]

Yeah it sucks. It's very bland IMO.
:laugh: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Um, i don't think the Mission Impossibles "tanked"

financial TANKED...I'm talking it did not live up to the hype, Just like Titanic did...

I wonder how long before Hollyweird releases "Titanic 2-We raised it for the $$$$$ and merchandising" ???? :lol:

[dissention]

Men In Black II made more than $190 million in the states and £22 million in the States.

With a budget of $140, it didn't set the studio profits ablaze like it's predecessor. If Disney can still claim to not have made a dime off of Gibson's Ransom, it's plausible that MIB2 didn't make a dime. :lol: :laugh:

[estranged4life]

Men In Black II made more than $190 million in the states and £22 million in the States. I don't think it tanked. And both Mission Impossible films were huge hits....

But I agree Hollywood should be developing more original ideas.

MIB2 made money...But only God knows why, It sucked beyond all human reason compared to the first movie which was at least watchable.

I never pay attention to how much a movie makes monetarily, I only care if it will entertain me, And the latest stuff I have seen has mainly sucked...

Brian j.

[dissention]

You are very patronising my friend.

I hope that works out for you.

And you're very condescending. Guess we're in the same boat.

[dissention]

You bring it out in me I'm afraid.

Us two should really keep our ****ty attitudes under control, they're very unbecoming. :p

[Johnny Stew]

I hate him. :laugh: He's a hack.

Well, it's hard to defend the guy who gave Batman nipples (not that I minded)! ;)

Lloyd Webber has also been called a hack quite a number of times, too, though. I just watch (or listen to) what I like, and ignore what the ever-so-jaded critics say. :)


I read that Andrew Lloyd Weber isn't too happy with it, either.


Now see, I've read that he couldn't be more thrilled with it. Go figure.

[dissention]

Well, it's hard to defend the guy who gave Batman nipples (not that I minded)! ;)

Lloyd Webber has also been called a hack quite a number of times, too, though. I just watch (or listen to) what I like, and ignore what the ever-so-jaded critics say. :)

I just don't like Schumacher. There's nothing distinct about him, really, and I never really liked any of his movies.

Now see, I've read that he couldn't be more thrilled with it. Go figure.

No, you're right. I was thinking of the fans of the show, they were mad that Butler got the role of the Phantom. Sorry! :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

I'm in the minority, But I also like the musical cause I am a Gene Wilder fan!

I'm not ashamed to admit this... 'Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory' is at the top of my favorite movies list. :D

[dissention]

I'm not ashamed to admit this... 'Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory' is at the top of my favorite movies list. :D

:nod: I love it, too. I'm sure Johnny Depp will be magnificent, but Gene Wilder is, and always will be, Willy Wonka to me.

[estranged4life]

because I would rather watch a movie made before 1970 than most modern movies...

Hell, We (Deb & myself) both fell asleep during LOTR!!!! :lol: :laugh: :lol:

Brian j.

[Johnny Stew]

No, you're right. I was thinking of the fans of the show, they were mad that Butler got the role of the Phantom. Sorry! :wavey:

There are fans who are still furious that Michael Crawford didn't get the role! :shocked:

I tend to ignore those people, too. :laugh:

[dissention]

There are fans who are still furious that Michael Crawford didn't get the role! :shocked:

I tend to ignore those people, too. :laugh:

Well, if I was a huge fan, I'd be rather pissed. I mean, it's like making The Bad Seed without Patty McCormack. :laugh:

And they are actually remaking that one. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Serrart]

The Phantom Of The Opera sound interesting and Joel Schumacher can be a good director when he wants to (like in Tigerland), but my favourite version of the story will always be the one by Brian De Palma. :nod:

Romy

[Johnny Stew]

:nod: I love it, too. I'm sure Johnny Depp will be magnificent, but Gene Wilder is, and always will be, Willy Wonka to me.

I originally cringed when I read they were making a new version, simply because I love the original so much and tend to think nothing could ever match it, but I love Burton and I love Depp, and I love the story... so I think I'll be pleased by the final result.

Plus, I don't think they're trying to encroach upon the memory of the first film, but rather to explore the source material from a different angle... and that's a worthy enough reason to revisit the Chocolate Factory. :) :nod:

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The Phantom Of The Opera sound interesting and Joel Schumacher can be a good director when he wants to (like in Tigerland), but my favourite version of the story will always be the one by Brian De Palma. :nod:

Romy

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phantom of the Pradise with Jessica Harper is one of my favorites! That's still DePalma's best film, along with Sisters, IMO. :thumbsup:

[dissention]

I'm a Scorpio, Amber will tell you, I get very passionate.

But I'm willing to put the Spielberg thing aside and kiss and make up, if you are too.

Darling, I don't carry grudges; I've already forgotten about it. :xoxo:

Have you heard of Savage Grace with Julianne Moore? That should be one chilling movie.

[amber]

I'm a Scorpio, Amber will tell you, I get very passionate.

But I'm willing to put the Spielberg thing aside and kiss and make up, if you are too.
yeah, lets see some kissing!!!! Now we're talking! :p

[strandinthewind]

Well then WHY THE HELL DIDN'T LUPONE get Evita instead of the oh so vocally talented Madonna - the key of C - I mean REALLY :rolleyes:

:laugh:

Seriously, I think Webber has some great stuff and he has some not so great stuff. I think his style of lavish production influenced Broadway for two decades and will go down in history as such. Do I think he is a S. Sondheim (who is credited with influencing Broadway in essentially the same time period) - no, he is not. But, Sondheim is not without his critics and he in some ways is not that great, at least to me. I like a traditional musical structure, which generally includes a chorus :laugh: Sadly, Webber's last two that I saw "Whistle Down the Wind" and "Beautiful Game" were IMO good reaches into realism that essentially got ignored. So, goes life.

As for the new Phantom, I saw a lot of it this last weekend (they were playing it as a promo in Bloomingdales :cool: ) - the guy's voice is wrong for the part and he cannot sing it, much less keep up with her, and her voice is not that great (but it is like Brightman's voice - good). But, maybe when I see the whole thing, I will like it better. Who knows? You can go here for a trailer http://phantomthemovie.warnerbros.com/

[dissention]

I originally cringed when I read they were making a new version, simply because I love the original so much and tend to think nothing could ever match it, but I love Burton and I love Depp, and I love the story... so I think I'll be pleased by the final result.

Plus, I don't think they're trying to encroach upon the memory of the first film, but rather to explore the source material from a different angle... and that's a worthy enough reason to revisit the Chocolate Factory. :) :nod:

As long as it's nothing as bad as Planet of the Apes, I'll be happy. :nod: If they stick to the book, it should be a classic.

[estranged4life]

I find that kinda sweet though.

But you're right about Men In Black II, I thought you meant it was a flop.

I still don't understand why Titanic is the highest grossing film in the world.

the real Titanic sank in faster amount of time than the complete length of the movie? :shrug:

I could never understand how people saw Tit-anic multiple times when once was enuff to bore some of my braincells into permanent suspended animation :lol:

Btw, Deb's fave movie is the Lucille Ball/Henry Fonda classic "Yours, Mine, Ours" & my fave will always be "The Good, The Bad & the Ugly"...I love westerns' which is now a dying catergory of movies.

Brian j.

[amber]

because I would rather watch a movie made before 1970 than most modern movies...

Hell, We (Deb & myself) both fell asleep during LOTR!!!! :lol: :laugh: :lol:

Brian j.
you know, i couldn't get through that either! Weird...

[strandinthewind]

As long as it's nothing as bad as Planet of the Apes, I'll be happy. :nod: If they stick to the book, it should be a classic.

Poor Winona :laugh:

[Serrart]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phantom of the Pradise with Jessica Harper is one of my favorites! That's still DePalma's best film, along with Sisters, IMO. :thumbsup:

It's been the first De Palma movie I've watched (at 11 or 12) and it scared me to death, but at the same I was so impressed: it has definitely fueled my love for movies. My favourite De Palma is Dressed To Kill but Phantom of the Paradise is a close second.

Romy

[strandinthewind]

You can hear some of the new Phantom soundtrack here - Honestly, I am embarassed for the guy playing the Phantom. He scoops some of the notes and flat out refuses to try and hit many of the others. Finally, his "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" - the big note to be held for MUCH longer than he even attempts, is, quite frankly, flat. Oy Vey !

[GateandGarden]

Nah.

I pick my girl, Hillary. :wavey:Aw! How sweet. :xoxo:

[dissention]

Cool :)

I hope Savage Grace will be good. Moore's last movie The Forgotten wasn't that great, although I still enjoyed it.
Julianne Moore is such an amazing actress and so beautiful. I think I could watch her in anything.

I liked The Forgotten, but the ending really left me slack-jawed. Aliens abducting children to conduct experiments on the bond between the kids and their parents? What?! It was so ludicrous. But then I saw A Dirty Shame right afterwards and all was well. :laugh:

I ordered The Myth of Fingerprints from Amazon this afternoon because it was on the IMDB as the movie of the day and I had forgotten how good she was in that one. I think she was her best in Safe, though (what a disturbing movie that was).

If you want to see a great movie, you should see Wendigo with Patricia Clarkson. I've been telling Amber to see it for weeks, but it's a fantastic movie. I watched it again over the weekend and it's one of those movies where you catch something new each time. I love those kinds of movies.

[GateandGarden]

It had to be ridiculous, that character is ridiculous. :laugh: Have you read the book, though? There's no possible way that they could have made it anything like the book because Colin Firth is a character in it. :cool: The Thailand drug bust was ridiculous, the lesbian lawyer was insipid, but I still laughed.

I didn't go into expecting it to be an Oscar worthy flick, I just wanted to laugh. It made me laugh, so I was happy. :DI haven't read the book. I figured the book was probably much better, since books are almost always better than the movies.

Hillary

[dissention]

It's been the first De Palma movie I've watched (at 11 or 12) and it scared me to death, but at the same I was so impressed: it has definitely fueled my love for movies. My favourite De Palma is Dressed To Kill but Phantom of the Paradise is a close second.

Romy

The first one I saw from DePalma was Sisters with Margot Kidder. That's quite a surreal movie if you haven't seen it, it's very weird. Almost Cronenberg-esque. I saw Phantom of the Paradise only a few years ago and it really surprised me. :nod:

[amber]

I liked The Forgotten, but the ending really left me slack-jawed. Aliens abducting children to conduct experiments on the bond between the kids and their parents? What?! It was so ludicrous. But then I saw A Dirty Shame right afterwards and all was well. :laugh:

I ordered The Myth of Fingerprints from Amazon this afternoon because it was on the IMDB as the movie of the day and I had forgotten how good she was in that one. I think she was her best in Safe, though (what a disturbing movie that was).

If you want to see a great movie, you should see Wendigo with Patricia Clarkson. I've been telling Amber to see it for weeks, but it's a fantastic movie. I watched it again over the weekend and it's one of those movies where you catch something new each time. I love those kinds of movies.
okay, since i love Safe and Myth of, i will really try to get it this weekend!

[strandinthewind]

Have you seen Far From Heaven, Amber?
If not you need to see that too.

She was MAGNIFICENT in Far From Heaven. What an actress!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dissention]

Wendigo - isn't Jake Weber in that. Bias at all? :laugh:

Probably a little. :laugh: But, seriously, it has what I consider to be probably the best scene ever filmed; the son is telling his father about the spirit of the Wendigo and the father explains to him that people don't understand the world, so they make up stories and things to make themselves feel better and more enlightened. Gives me chills.

And the director is nothing short of a genius. Everything means something in it, from the dialogue down to the props. The script is phenomenal. I bought a copy of it when I saw it at the Q&A in New York (along with the comic book, which is fab) and it's just as powerful on the page as it is onscreen. Plus, I think it's the one film that I've seen that *really* captures human relationships in a way that doesn't seem fake or phoney. Love it!

Have you seen The Station Agent? Patricia Clarkson is wonderful in that.

:nod: I love her. Can't wait to "The Woods" with her and...Bruce Campbell. :lol:

I got Haute Tension btw, but I haven't watched it yet.

Oy, that movie is disturbing. Let me know what you think of it. The twist is so cheap and ill-conceived, but somehow it works wonderfully. The guy that directed it is now remaking The Hills Have Eyes. :eek: :lol:

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okay, since i love Safe and Myth of, i will really try to get it this weekend!

:thumbsup: But don't read the box, it's very misleading and makes it seem like a cheap horror flick. :laugh:

I haven't seen Myth in years, so I'm looking forward to getting it.

[amber]

Have you seen Far From Heaven, Amber?
If not you need to see that too.
No, i know, i have to see it. I have a list about 2 miles long. I'm sorry! I'm having some budgetary issues, as usual. But...which should i see first? Wendigo or Far From Heaven? I actually like Julianne Moore, already....hmmm.

[dissention]

No, i know, i have to see it. I have a list about 2 miles long. I'm sorry! I'm having some budgetary issues, as usual. But...which should i see first? Wendigo or Far From Heaven? I actually like Julianne Moore, already....hmmm.

Both are fab. Moore was spectacular in Far From Heaven, she had to literally learn a whole new style of acting and she perfected it. Wasn't a fan of Dennis Quaid in it, but everyone else was great.

[amber]

Both are fab. Moore was spectacular in Far From Heaven, she had to literally learn a whole new style of acting and she perfected it. Wasn't a fan of Dennis Quaid in it, but everyone else was great.
What do you mean, a whole new style? I don't love Quaid much anyway, unless he's in a sex scene in The Big Easy... :lol: that once...

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What do you mean, a whole new style? I don't love Quaid much anyway, unless he's in a sex scene in The Big Easy... :lol: that once...

Far From Heaven is a throwback to the old Hollywood dramas. You know how they acted back in those days, like they were onstage but not projecting as much? That's how the cast was in it. The titles are old-style, the lighting, the colors, etc.

[amber]

Far From Heaven is a throwback to the old Hollywood dramas. You know how they acted back in those days, like they were onstage but not projecting as much? That's how the cast was in it. The titles are old-style, the lighting, the colors, etc.
Ok, but wouldn't she only have to act that way if she was playing an actress? I mean, real people didn't talk that way, did they? how weird.

[strandinthewind]

Ok, but wouldn't she only have to act that way if she was playing an actress? I mean, real people didn't talk that way, did they? how weird.

Well, yes they did. People then were FAR more civil and actually went out of their way to be polite to one another. The public discourse reflected that. Granted racism was horrid and all that, which was horrible and I am glad has changed - such is the issue of the movie. But, my point about the language is people today simply for the most part cannot fathom the level of civility that existed until IMO the end of the 70's once the neocons began the take over. I realize times change, but civility was the cost in this case.

Anyway - sorry for the ramble :cool:

[amber]

Well, yes they did. People then were FAR more civil and actually went out of their way to be polite to one another. The public discourse reflected that. Granted racism was horrid and all that, which was horrible and I am glad has changed - such is the issue of the movie. But, my point about the language is people today simply for the most part cannot fathom the level of civility that existed until IMO the end of the 70's once the neocons began the take over. I realize times change, but civility was the cost in this case.

Anyway - sorry for the ramble :cool:
I kind of meant...they didn't talk as if they were onstage and had to project and all that. I enjoyed your point, though! :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

I kind of meant...they didn't talk as if they were onstage and had to project and all that. I enjoyed your point, though! :wavey:

Oops!!!! :laugh:

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I kind of meant...they didn't talk as if they were onstage and had to project and all that. I enjoyed your point, though! :wavey:

Yeah, that's how they acted back then, as if they were performing in front of an audience but not acting for them. It's hard to explain, but see the movie and you'll get it. It resembles a 50s movie in the style, titles, clothes, acting, pretty much everything.

Rent a Susan Hayward movie or an old Joan Crawford flick, you'll see what I mean. She took on that style of acting in Far From Heaven.

[AliP]

I'm looking forward to Savage Grace with Juilanne Moore and Clive Owen, too. That should be a good one.

First things first. Clive Owen=yum.

Spielberg isn't all he's cracked up to be. He's very cloying at times and panders to the lowest common denominator. I wish he'd make more films like Empire of the Sun or The Color Purple instead of crap like Catch Me If You Can and The Terminal. He hasn't made a watchable flick since Schindler's List, IMO.

The Color Purple, one of the best movies ever, IMO. I also thought A.I. was very good. Didn't he direct that? I know alot of people thought it was crap, but I don't know what it was, it really had an affect on me. It was just sooo sad.


I agree, I loved Bridget Jones 2. First one is my all time favorite movie. I've seen it probably more than 50 times. The books were ok - the second one was a bit lacking IMO, but I think the movie did well with what it had. Plus, in all my shallowness, I'm in love with Colin Firth and will watch pure trash if I get to see him :)

[GypsySorcerer]

No, i know, i have to see it. I have a list about 2 miles long. I'm sorry! I'm having some budgetary issues, as usual. But...which should i see first? Wendigo or Far From Heaven? I actually like Julianne Moore, already....hmmm.


Far from Heaven is a great movie. It made me a nervous wreck, though. I almost had to turn it off a few times. It was so troubling, and there was no gratuitious sex or violence or anything. The dialogue is chilling.

[Hawkeye]

the movie I'm dying to see is Meet the Fochers (right thread this time!)

[Hawkeye]

As pathetic as it sounds, because of my panic attacks, I haven't seen a movie in a theatre since 1989 (the first 'Batman' with Michael Keaton).

I would love to see 'Phantom Of The Opera' on the big screen though. So much so that I'd be willing to risk the panic attacks!

Hey, Curtis... wanna take me? ;)

heh you'd risk a panic atttack for The Phantom of ther Opera but not a Fleetwood Mac concert :mad: :laugh:

[littlelies7]

I read that Andrew Lloyd Weber isn't too happy with it, either.

I don't know why he would be unhappy... he did work alongside with Joel Schumacer (sp?).

Personally, I'm grateful that Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum got their respected roles... folks, it could've been worse...

Try John Travolta singing "The Music of the Night"... yikes! :shocked:

P.S.: Webber actually chose Schumacer (sp?) to be the director. Guess he trusted him... :shrug:

[Johnny Stew]

Well, if I was a huge fan, I'd be rather pissed. I mean, it's like making The Bad Seed without Patty McCormack. :laugh:

And they are actually remaking that one. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I consider myself to be a huge fan of 'Phantom,' and I'm not disappointed (or did you mean a huge fan of Crawford?).

If anything, I'm disappointed that the film wasn't made when Sarah was still young enough to play the part.

But time marches on, and it's hard to play an ingenue when you're in your 40s. And it's hard to play an ingenue's love interest when you're 62.

I like the casting, and I hope the movie is a success. :)

By the way, if they're still trying to cast the role of Rhoda in the 'Bad Seed,' I'd like to suggest the freaky little blond girl that lives up the block from me. I swear I once saw that kid using some sidewalk chalk to outline a murder plot. :shocked: :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

The Phantom Of The Opera sound interesting and Joel Schumacher can be a good director when he wants to (like in Tigerland), but my favourite version of the story will always be the one by Brian De Palma. :nod:

Ahh, the 'Phantom Of The Paradise'... I saw that once when I was about 15. Talk about a weird movie! I liked it though... quite a bit.

Would love to see it again. :)

[Johnny Stew]

Well then WHY THE HELL DIDN'T LUPONE get Evita instead of the oh so vocally talented Madonna - the key of C - I mean REALLY :rolleyes:

:laugh:

Patti was already pushing 50 by the time they filmed 'Evita'! I think it might have been an even tougher stretch for her to play Eva as a teenager, than it already was for Madonna!

Not to mention the fact that, while Patti is an extremely talented singer, her style is too bombastic for the big screen.
A contemporary film adaption of a musical requires, in my opinion, a more intimate style of singing. There's no need to play to the balcony.

I think Madonna was the right choice. So there. :p ;)



As for the new Phantom, I saw a lot of it this last weekend (they were playing it as a promo in Bloomingdales :cool: ) - the guy's voice is wrong for the part and he cannot sing it, much less keep up with her, and her voice is not that great (but it is like Brightman's voice - good). But, maybe when I see the whole thing, I will like it better. Who knows? You can go here for a trailer http://phantomthemovie.warnerbros.com/

Like I said, I was disappointed when I first listened to the streaming audio of the highlights disc, but once I had the actual full soundtrack and listened to the songs in context (and on a much better sound system than my dinky little PC speakers), I was VERY impressed and that much more enthusiastic about seeing the film. :)

Of course, some people will still dislike it... I mean, I think it would be impossible for everyone to love it, for a variety of reasons.

[Johnny Stew]

The first one I saw from DePalma was Sisters with Margot Kidder. That's quite a surreal movie if you haven't seen it, it's very weird.

Oh God, I LOVED 'Sisters'... that movie scared the snot out of me when I was younger. VERY twisted.

And such violence from Lois Lane no less! :shocked: :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

heh you'd risk a panic atttack for The Phantom of ther Opera but not a Fleetwood Mac concert :mad: :laugh:

:laugh:

Well, if I had a panic attack in the movie theatre and had to leave, I'd only be out 10 bucks or so... if I had to leave a Fleetwood Mac concert, I'd be out 125 bucks. :shocked:

So I guess what I'm saying is that my desire to "risk it" decreases as the amount of money I (or someone else) would be losing, increases. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I was joking about Patti :laugh: Can't you see it - Mr. director - please ask the boom operator to hold the mic. 15 MORE feet from my blockbuster voice :laugh:

But, Madonna - her version is okay and HEAVILY produced. Her voice sounds NOTHING like that :laugh: and it is so timid. SHe was, however, good in the role, but was it "acting" - hmmmmmmm - local girl of quesitonable talent whores her way to the top :shrug: :laugh: Again, I liked her in it. Personally, I think Streep could have played the crap out of it. In fact, she was in the running for many years, but, like Patti, she was too old. All, I have to say is thank GAWD BS (La Streisand :laugh: ) did not buy the movie rights - think Lucy as Mame :eek:

As for phantom, the guy playing phantom is singing out of his league at least from what I have heard - I mean he is borderline flat at times :eek: :laugh: But, the other two leads are good. AND - the scenes I saw are VERY good. So, hopefully, it will be a good show.

[amber]

Yeah, that's how they acted back then, as if they were performing in front of an audience but not acting for them. It's hard to explain, but see the movie and you'll get it. It resembles a 50s movie in the style, titles, clothes, acting, pretty much everything.

Rent a Susan Hayward movie or an old Joan Crawford flick, you'll see what I mean. She took on that style of acting in Far From Heaven.
Ah, no, i've watched plenty of old movies, so i know what you're talking about. Just suprised they did that. I should "do" more Susan Hayward, since she has my birthday! :laugh: (yes, i'm dumb, i know) but Joan Crawford? I don't "do" Joan, I do Bette! :cool: But have you ever seen that weird joan crawford movie with murders in the circus? that movie was freaky! :)

[Moony]

I love musicals. :o

Sometimes I'm such a stereotype. :shocked:

:laugh: :laugh:
Aren't we all?

Anyways,
I love Julianne Moore. I think she (along with Cate Blanchett) is one of the best actresses of our time. Seriously.

I've been wanting to see Far From Heaven for a while now...after seeing all the reccomendations, I'll have to make it a point to rent it.

And Johnny, what's wrong with you? Madonna is NEVER the right choice :laugh:

[amber]

:And Johnny, what's wrong with you? Madonna is NEVER the right choice :laugh:
:lol: :lol:
true, so true... :D

[Johnny Stew]

And Johnny, what's wrong with you? Madonna is NEVER the right choice :laugh:

I like Mo. :o :shrug:

I think she was perfect for the film adaption of 'Evita,' and 'Evita' was perfect for her.
Now, having said that, I don't think she'd EVER be able to handle the job on Broadway.

[dissention]

I don't know why he would be unhappy... he did work alongside with Joel Schumacer (sp?).

Personally, I'm grateful that Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum got their respected roles... folks, it could've been worse...

Try John Travolta singing "The Music of the Night"... yikes! :shocked:

P.S.: Webber actually chose Schumacer (sp?) to be the director. Guess he trusted him... :shrug:

Webber isn't exactly the master of good choices. Faye Dunaway? Sunset Boulevard? 'Nuff said. :laugh:

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I was joking about Patti :laugh: Can't you see it - Mr. director - please ask the boom operator to hold the mic. 15 MORE feet from my blockbuster voice :laugh:

But, Madonna - her version is okay and HEAVILY produced. Her voice sounds NOTHING like that :laugh: and it is so timid. SHe was, however, good in the role, but was it "acting" - hmmmmmmm - local girl of quesitonable talent whores her way to the top :shrug: :laugh: Again, I liked her in it. Personally, I think Streep could have played the crap out of it. In fact, she was in the running for many years, but, like Patti, she was too old. All, I have to say is thank GAWD BS (La Streisand :laugh: ) did not buy the movie rights - think Lucy as Mame :eek:

As for phantom, the guy playing phantom is singing out of his league at least from what I have heard - I mean he is borderline flat at times :eek: :laugh: But, the other two leads are good. AND - the scenes I saw are VERY good. So, hopefully, it will be a good show.

Madonna blew chunks and I consider myself a Madonna fan. She can take that Golden Globe and shove it up her ass. I could care less how much of a stretch it would have been, Patti Lupone is Eva Peron. Madonna isn't fit to lick her boots. Don't even get me started on how much tinkering they had to do to her voice to make it sound decent and there isn't an ounce of power to it. Reminded me of the chick who sings the Folgers coffee jingles.

[strandinthewind]

Madonna blew chunks and I consider myself a Madonna fan. She can take that Golden Globe and shove it up her ass. I could care less how much of a stretch it would have been, Patti Lupone is Eva Peron. Madonna isn't fit to lick her boots. Don't even get me started on how much tinkering they had to do to her voice to make it sound decent and there isn't an ounce of power to it. Reminded me of the chick who sings the Folgers coffee jingles.

Not only that, but they shot her with a JAR of vaseline on the lens and through more gauze than La Nicks wears on stage :laugh:

Seriously, I like that version, but when I think of what it could have been if they had used Lupone or Streep 15 years earlier when negotiations first started. I often wonder is Patti would have done it - she and Webber allegedly fought alot (who doesn't Patti fight with :laugh: ) - But, she went back to Webber in the early 90's with the London production of Sunset (in which she was BRILLIANT and in which she allegedly beat Streep out of the part during a sort of impromptu audition) and then Webber screwed Lupone royally by breaching his contract with her to take it to Broadway and instead going with Glenn Close, who, although a GREAT actress, I did not care for in that part. Webber paid Lupone millions of dollars for that (some rumors have it at 5 some at 10 - the real amount is undisclosed). So, I am sure Patti was not in love with the idea of working with anything associated with Webber again. But, stranger things have happened.

As a total aside and unrelated to anything but my obsession with La Lupone - did you read where last weekend, she through a diva fit because some TSA person felt her up - that poor TSA woman to get that wrath :laugh: to wit:

Actress Gets Airport Pat-Down

NEW YORK, Nov. 24, 2004

(CBS) She's a Broadway star who has dazzled audiences in such hits as "Evita" (for which she won the Tony award in 1980) and a rousing revival of "Anything Goes." But, as a private citizen, actress Patti LuPone tells The Early Show co-anchor Harry Smith, she was the victim of an airport screener who went too far.

Two months ago, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) made changes to passenger screening procedures at airports nationwide, including calling for more aggressive pat-downs. Officials say it increases their ability to detect explosives.

But LuPone has joined the increasing number of passengers who believe the pat-downs cross the line. She was recently stopped and publicly frisked at the airport in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

Says LuPone, "It was during the initial screening. ...I took off my leather jacket. I took off my belt, my...shoes, because they have metal in them. I did what I have the knowledge to do."

Since she was traveling from a warm climate (Fort Lauderdale) to a colder climate (Chicago), LuPone explains, she had dressed in layers. "And then the initial screener said, 'Take off your shirt.' And I said, 'If I take off my shirt, I'm going to be exposed.' He said, 'OK.'

"I passed through the metal detector without any incident," continues the 55-year-old actress, "and he waved me into secondary screening, and I questioned him. I said, 'What am I doing here?' (He said), 'You said you wouldn't take your shirt off.'

"I thought, 'Am I in the time-out chair?'"

She took off her shirt and then asked the initial screener what he wanted next. He never spoke to her, she says, even though she asked for more information. "And out of nowhere," LuPone says, "this woman comes and starts to give me a breast exam, not using the back of her hands, using the palm of her hands.

"And I was shocked. And I was not in a private environment. I was out there in the public and totally taken by surprise, humiliated and shocked!"

Co-anchor Smith pointed out that travelers grapple with the question of when they are being violated, and when they must understand that it is "safety at all costs." After all, informed travelers are well aware that the bombs that went off in the planes in Russia were probably taken on board by female passengers.

LuPone suggests that better communication between the Transportation Security Administration and passengers would be helpful. In fact, she tells Smith, "I think that if there was communication between the TSA and the passengers, the passengers would be willing to do anything. Nobody wants to get into a flying bomb."

After her encounter with the initial screener, LuPone spoke to three other screeners who, she says, "were so compassionate and sympathetic...I actually called the TSA and commended these guys, because they knew how to handle a passenger in distress. The original screener did not."

She says she told the later screeners: "If you communicate to me, there is nothing I won't do for you. But you want to withhold the information." She reports that the screeners told her that they are not allowed to share certain information with passengers.

Concludes LuPone, "As my husband said, they're closing the barn doors after the horse is out. This stuff is hindsight. ...They need to take another initiative and be smarter about their screening."


©MMIV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/27/earlyshow/living/travel/main657910.shtml

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Not only that, but they shot her with a JAR of vaseline on the lens and through more gauze than La Nicks wears on stage :laugh:

Seriously, I like that version, but when I think of what it could have been if they had used Lupone or Streep 15 years earlier when negotiations first started. I often wonder is Patti would have done it - she and Webber allegedly fought alot (who doesn't Patti fight with :laugh: ) - But, she went back to Webber in the early 90's with the London production of Sunset (in which she was BRILLIANT and in which she allegedly beat Streep out of the part during a sort of impromptu audition) and then Webber screwed Lupone royally by breaching his contract with her to take it to Broadway and instead going with Glenn Close, who, although a GREAT actress, I did not care for in that part. Webber paid Lupone millions of dollars for that (some rumors have it at 5 some at 10 - the real amount is undisclosed). So, I am sure Patti was not in love with the idea of working with anything associated with Webber again. But, stranger things have happened.

Like I said, Webber is a fool when it comes to many of the choices he's made. Glenn Close is a great actress, but not a great singer. Lupone is a great actress and a helluva singer. He ships Glenn Close off to Broadway and then tries to put Faye Dunaway on the West Coast? What an idiot! And it cost him millions!

Evita, the movie, left me dryer than Bea Arthur after menopause. It was awful and, worst of all, an utter bore. Just thinking of how great it would have been with Lupone brings tears to my eyes. :laugh:

"I thought, 'Am I in the time-out chair?'"

She took off her shirt and then asked the initial screener what he wanted next. He never spoke to her, she says, even though she asked for more information. "And out of nowhere," LuPone says, "this woman comes and starts to give me a breast exam, not using the back of her hands, using the palm of her hands.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/27/earlyshow/living/travel/main657910.shtml

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I don't blame her. If someone grabbed my crotch or my chest, I'd slug them.