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GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 09:44 PM
If you've got some spare time, check out this thead in which I attempted to have a calm discussion on an Ann Coulter fan board--http://p210.ezboard.com/fanncoulterfrm2.showMessageRange?topicID=715.topic&start=1&stop=20

It all started when one of my professors said that Ann Coulter is one of the people he hates most in the world. I had never actually read any of her books, so I picked up her latest in Barnes and Noble and sat down to read through it. And I was quite horrified. So, I wanted to go onto this message board and ask people politely why they liked her. I didn't want to get personal at all--I just wanted to see what they were going to say, but this one person got really personal. And he (or she) had the audacity to bring things that I've said on other forums into the discussion, which I think is really rude. I was actually going to debate with the people who were being kind, but when that guy (or chick--still not sure) said my life is a lie (in those exact words), I was gone. Who wouldn't leave after that? I don't know what the average Ann Coulter fan is like, but these people make them look really bad. And I was really upset when they were talking about gay people being promiscuous. I don't announce all over the place that I'm a virgin and my intention is to be one until I get married (however impractical that is), but I have already told y'all about it. So, it really hurts my feelings when people start saying that gay people have lots of sex by virtue of the fact that they're gay. Just because I have a rainbow by my username does not mean I'm going after every woman who's willing to share my bed. But I know y'all know that. I'm just venting.

And if any of you decide to go read the thread, I'm Laennecfan on there, though that's pretty obvious anyway. And I know some of you (Curtis, Kate, Krista, and some others) already know my ezboard username, anyway.

dissention, you feel like trolling? I would love for you to give them a piece of your mind, but of course you realize they're incredibly far gone. And by the way, I showed my professor the "Strap-On Veterans for Truth" thing you posted earlier and he LOVED it. That made his day. I do love visiting The Ledge. :)

Oh wow, please forgive all of the rambling today. :]

amber
11-28-2004, 09:53 PM
If you've got some spare time, check out this thead in which I attempted to have a calm discussion on an Ann Coulter fan board--http://p210.ezboard.com/fanncoulterfrm2.showMessageRange?topicID=715.topic&start=1&stop=20

It all started when one of my professors said that Ann Coulter is one of the people he hates most in the world. I had never actually read any of her books, so I picked up her latest in Barnes and Noble and sat down to read through it. And I was quite horrified. So, I wanted to go onto this message board and ask people politely why they liked her. I didn't want to get personal at all--I just wanted to see what they were going to say, but this one person got really personal. And he (or she) had the audacity to bring things that I've said on other forums into the discussion, which I think is really rude. I was actually going to debate with the people who were being kind, but when that guy (or chick--still not sure) said my life is a lie (in those exact words), I was gone. Who wouldn't leave after that? I don't know what the average Ann Coulter fan is like, but these people make them look really bad. And I was really upset when they were talking about gay people being promiscuous. I don't announce all over the place that I'm a virgin and my intention is to be one until I get married (however impractical that is), but I have already told y'all about it. So, it really hurts my feelings when people start saying that gay people have lots of sex by virtue of the fact that they're gay. Just because I have a rainbow by my username does not mean I'm going after every woman who's willing to share my bed. But I know y'all know that. I'm just venting.

And if any of you decide to go read the thread, I'm Laennecfan on there, though that's pretty obvious anyway. And I know some of you (Curtis, Kate, Krista, and some others) already know my ezboard username, anyway.

dissention, you feel like trolling? I would love for you to give them a piece of your mind, but of course you realize they're incredibly far gone. And by the way, I showed my professor the "Strap-On Veterans for Truth" thing you posted earlier and he LOVED it. That made his day. I do love visiting The Ledge. :)

Oh wow, please forgive all of the rambling today. :]
Rambling quite warranted, i would say :D I will read the thread shortly, and would love to give someone a piece of my mind...maybe the crazy part? :laugh: but seriously, i would think it would be fruitless to try to argue with people who already like Ann Coulter. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try though. But honestly, if they think gay people are automatically promiscuous? It's like you're dealing with an IQ level of, oh, i don't know, RETARD? :shocked: Ok, i'm gonna go read it...don't let it get to you personally, dear. It's not about you, it's about abject ignorance!!!! I know, it's hard. What one of my friends does, when anyone brings up something icky, or their icky opinion, or is acting icky, is she calmly and lovingly explains why she doesn't feel that way, and how we're all human and everyone needs to love each other, and everyone deserves respect. In other words, the best revenge is to be an absolutely loving and kind person - who could argue with that? But, yeah....i'm gonna go read it now...
:xoxo:
Amber

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 09:57 PM
Rambling quite warranted, i would say :D I will read the thread shortly, and would love to give someone a piece of my mind...maybe the crazy part? :laugh: but seriously, i would think it would be fruitless to try to argue with people who already like Ann Coulter. Doesn't mean you shouldn't try though. But honestly, if they think gay people are automatically promiscuous? It's like you're dealing with an IQ level of, oh, i don't know, RETARD? :shocked: Ok, i'm gonna go read it...don't let it get to you personally, dear. It's not about you, it's about abject ignorance!!!! I know, it's hard. What one of my friends does, when anyone brings up something icky, or their icky opinion, or is acting icky, is she calmly and lovingly explains why she doesn't feel that way, and how we're all human and everyone needs to love each other, and everyone deserves respect. In other words, the best revenge is to be an absolutely loving and kind person - who could argue with that? But, yeah....i'm gonna go read it now...
:xoxo:
AmberThanks Amber. :xoxo: I didn't go into it thinking I would argue--I was just gonna ask the question and then read their answers, but that one guy pissed me off and I just felt I had to respond, and then all bets were off.

The scary thing is that I don't think I'm deailng with retards, as you put it. I think they're all very intelligent, as I think Ann Coulter is also very intelligent, and that's what scares me. I hate to think that someone could be educated but still ignorant at the same time. It's far worse than someone who's a complete and utter idiot spouting idiotic things--these people and Ann seem to have much more of a command of the English language than that. And so they are in a much better position to manipulate other people into thinking they're right. It's frightening.

Okay, end of second rant. :laugh:

Hillary

DeadliestPoison
11-28-2004, 09:59 PM
Wow, macbers? Creepy.

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:01 PM
Wow, macbers? Creepy.Is that in any way a reference to the Mac, you think? When I first saw that, it crossed my mind, but then I figured it must just be a coincidence. :shrug:

Hillary

amber
11-28-2004, 10:02 PM
Thanks Amber. :xoxo: I didn't go into it thinking I would argue--I was just gonna ask the question and then read their answers, but that one guy pissed me off and I just felt I had to respond, and then all bets were off.

The scary thing is that I don't think I'm deailng with retards, as you put it. I think they're all very intelligent, as I think Ann Coulter is also very intelligent, and that's what scares me. I hate to think that someone could be educated but still ignorant at the same time. It's far worse than someone who's a complete and utter idiot spouting idiotic things--these people and Ann seem to have much more of a command of the English language than that. And so they are in a much better position to manipulate other people into thinking they're right. It's frightening.

Okay, end of second rant. :laugh:

Hillary
ok, i'm about halfway through, and clearly part of the problem here is that some of the people think the Bible is THE TRUTH. I mean, how much ground can you gain if someone takes the bible literally that way? By the way, so far, i thought your arguments were great, and polite. yeah, it is scary when smart people feel that way...okay, i'm gonna go read the rest. But, in the end, and as my friend says "I love everybody" (she's bi) and isn't that really the point of the bible, anyway, sort of? Well, it should be... :D okay, i'll get back to you shortly...

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:04 PM
ok, i'm about halfway through, and clearly part of the problem here is that some of the people think the Bible is THE TRUTH. I mean, how much ground can you gain if someone takes the bible literally that way? By the way, so far, i thought your arguments were great, and polite. yeah, it is scary when smart people feel that way...okay, i'm gonna go read the rest. But, in the end, and as my friend says "I love everybody" (she's bi) and isn't that really the point of the bible, anyway, sort of? Well, it should be... :D okay, i'll get back to you shortly...Yeah, I would say you've pointed out the root of the problem. If people cannot accept that other religions and belief systems are just as valid, it's really hard to get anywhere at all with them. But, of course, I guess one can expect Ann Coulter fans to be Christian fundamentalists? :shrug: I should've seen that coming.

Hillary

amber
11-28-2004, 10:10 PM
Yeah, I would say you've pointed out the root of the problem. If people cannot accept that other religions and belief systems are just as valid, it's really hard to get anywhere at all with them. But, of course, I guess one can expect Ann Coulter fans to be Christian fundamentalists? :shrug: I should've seen that coming.

Hillary
This is a good part, hope you don't mind...
"But you said something very important in that part of your post--you said that you disagree. Unfortunately, it is never so simple as people just disagreeing--they have to tell the other person that he or she is wrong. It seems that people rarely "agree to disagree" in these times. You favor organized religion, and I can say that I will probably never favor organized religion for myself. But having known some really fantastic Christians in my life, I cannot dismiss it altogether for other people, or deny the value it can have. And so I agree to disagree."

But i'm concerned cause right after that, the person was like "you can be with THE TRUTH or you can be with other people" (paraphrase) what kind of nut thinks their truth is THE truth? I mean, the person seems thoughtful and fairly intelligent, but come on! oh, here it is...
"You can do anything you want with the truth. When you refuse to accept it, you are only denying yourself the ultimate benefits that the truth promises, and consistently delivers.

Your life is a lie. Everything breaks down from there. "

Geez! Sounds like brainwashing gone amuck. ok, more in a minute... :xoxo:

amber
11-28-2004, 10:12 PM
As an aside, don't make me kick this person's ass...
"The Great Earth Mother for crying out loud...."
ok, just an environmentalist aside... :p

amber
11-28-2004, 10:13 PM
Whoa! :( :eek:

"On another misconceived note:


Quote:
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Are they not fighting for a country in which many, many people make them feel inferior?
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I, nor anyone else, can MAKE YOU FEEL anything that you do not allow yourself to feel. If you already feel inferior in your homosexuality, don't blame me.

But, that would be a good place to start with the truth. "

DeadliestPoison
11-28-2004, 10:14 PM
How did y'all start talking about "The Truth," anyway? I must have forgotten, what with all the condescension (is that a word?) going on.

Hi, Macbers. Truth? Sort of subjective. Just because it's true to you doesn't mean it's true to everybody. And if someone feels, thinks, speaks, acts differently than you do? Not their fault. Their cultural upbringing, society, geographical location, etc, all influence how we see the world and therefore how we see "The Truth."

I honestly don't understand how people can argue "The Truth," since it's different for everybody.

dissention
11-28-2004, 10:16 PM
dissention, you feel like trolling? I would love for you to give them a piece of your mind, but of course you realize they're incredibly far gone. And by the way, I showed my professor the "Strap-On Veterans for Truth" thing you posted earlier and he LOVED it. That made his day. I do love visiting The Ledge. :)

It would be my pleasure. :xoxo:

amber
11-28-2004, 10:16 PM
um... :shocked: :confused:

"Now, let's get back to trying to do the impossible with Laennecfan. Laene (may I call you Laene?), when you admit to yourself that you are in need of help, the Lord will help you if you ask Him. But you have to be persistant about it. Just asking Him once or twice won't do it. You have to show Him that you mean it. It's not a matter of any of us trying to get through to you but you allowing God's infinite Holy Wisdom to take charge. And as to that, you either will or you won't. "

Hokay! Well, there ya go! :eek: :rolleyes:

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:18 PM
This is a good part, hope you don't mind...
"But you said something very important in that part of your post--you said that you disagree. Unfortunately, it is never so simple as people just disagreeing--they have to tell the other person that he or she is wrong. It seems that people rarely "agree to disagree" in these times. You favor organized religion, and I can say that I will probably never favor organized religion for myself. But having known some really fantastic Christians in my life, I cannot dismiss it altogether for other people, or deny the value it can have. And so I agree to disagree."

But i'm concerned cause right after that, the person was like "you can be with THE TRUTH or you can be with other people" (paraphrase) what kind of nut thinks their truth is THE truth? I mean, the person seems thoughtful and fairly intelligent, but come on! oh, here it is...
"You can do anything you want with the truth. When you refuse to accept it, you are only denying yourself the ultimate benefits that the truth promises, and consistently delivers.

Your life is a lie. Everything breaks down from there. "

Geez! Sounds like brainwashing gone amuck. ok, more in a minute... :xoxo:Yep, that was pretty bad. I certainly don't mind you quoting me, since you were actually polite about it, whereas macbers just started acting like he knew all this stuff about me and I didn't even know where he was getting all of it! (I don't mean to be sexist and assume he's a guy...sorry about that).

The funny thing about that quote about 'you can accept the truth, or certain people,' etc, I think it's interesting because I think it's actually more inclusive than the person intended for it to be. Maybe the TRUTH in that quote can be one's own truth? Of course, the people on that board would not advocate for that, obviously. My point was that if it came down to some supposed "truth" about the universe, whatever origin that truth might have (Christianity, etc.) and I had to choose between it and my family, I would choose my family. I don't know why the guy was happy that I said that. :shrug: I figured he was going to say that I should abandon my family if they won't accept Christianity as the TRUTH. Maybe he just didn't understand me. He wanted me to agree with him wholeheartedly so much that he imagined I did.

I don't know. End of rambling #3.

I'm really glad you're reading through it, Amber. It just makes me feel better for someone else to be pointing out how ridiculous it all is. The more the merrier. :xoxo:

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:20 PM
um... :shocked: :confused:

"Now, let's get back to trying to do the impossible with Laennecfan. Laene (may I call you Laene?), when you admit to yourself that you are in need of help, the Lord will help you if you ask Him. But you have to be persistant about it. Just asking Him once or twice won't do it. You have to show Him that you mean it. It's not a matter of any of us trying to get through to you but you allowing God's infinite Holy Wisdom to take charge. And as to that, you either will or you won't. "

Hokay! Well, there ya go! :eek: :rolleyes:One of the best parts! When I saw that, I couldn't do anything but start laughing!

Hillary

amber
11-28-2004, 10:21 PM
Omigosh, and from there they just go on about getting your sexuality out of their face. This is gross....
"My response to this is mind your own business, and GET OUT OF MY FACE. What you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is simply NOT MY BUSINESS, and I resent you or anyone else trying to FORCE it on me or my children. "
As is this...
"Star,

Among the many good points you bring up here is the BIG one that we so automatically overlook:

WHY do homosexuals have to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES PRIMARILY based on what they do in the sack?

It's really funny. In fact, it's hilarious! No, wait! It's GROSS! Guess what! WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO KNOW! Quit flipping telling us!

What if hetero's did that?"

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:23 PM
How did y'all start talking about "The Truth," anyway? I must have forgotten, what with all the condescension (is that a word?) going on.

Hi, Macbers. Truth? Sort of subjective. Just because it's true to you doesn't mean it's true to everybody. And if someone feels, thinks, speaks, acts differently than you do? Not their fault. Their cultural upbringing, society, geographical location, etc, all influence how we see the world and therefore how we see "The Truth."

I honestly don't understand how people can argue "The Truth," since it's different for everybody.Oh no. There is only ONE truth for everyone. Have you learned nothing? Zero Neutrino said it--there is an absolute truth, about which all of the Ann Coulter fans are interested. How foolish of you to buy into this silly concept of multiple truths. I suggest that you ask God for help. If you're persistent about it, He will help you. Oh, and your life is a lie, by the way. :] :laugh:

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:25 PM
Omigosh, and from there they just go on about getting your sexuality out of their face. This is gross....
"My response to this is mind your own business, and GET OUT OF MY FACE. What you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is simply NOT MY BUSINESS, and I resent you or anyone else trying to FORCE it on me or my children. "
As is this...
"Star,

Among the many good points you bring up here is the BIG one that we so automatically overlook:

WHY do homosexuals have to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES PRIMARILY based on what they do in the sack?

It's really funny. In fact, it's hilarious! No, wait! It's GROSS! Guess what! WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO KNOW! Quit flipping telling us!

What if hetero's did that?"God, that pissed me off. Like I go around telling people that. Like I am defined by that. A rainbow or a triangel is NOT about what people do in the sacK!!! I can't believe there are still people out there who think that being gay is all about sex. Ugh.

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:26 PM
It would be my pleasure. :xoxo:You're the man. :xoxo:

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:28 PM
Here's a snippet from their thread about why conservatives are seldom seen in academia. Someone actually said this and was serious.

"Leftards with useless humanities degrees have no choice but to enter the cloistered realm of academia, whereas conservatives apply their bachelor's and master's degrees to productive work in the business world and industry."

As an English major and history minor planning to pursue a master's degree in history, I'm loving that. :rolleyes:

Hillary

amber
11-28-2004, 10:32 PM
Here's a snippet from their thread about why conservatives are seldom seen in academia. Someone actually said this and was serious.

"Leftards with useless humanities degrees have no choice but to enter the cloistered realm of academia, whereas conservatives apply their bachelor's and master's degrees to productive work in the business world and industry."

As an English major and history minor planning to pursue a master's degree in history, I'm loving that. :rolleyes:

Hillary
uh, that makes me sick. What they are saying, really, is "We don't learn from the past, or give any credence to things that don't make money"
whatevah, I certainly don't have the patience to be "loving and understanding" when i argue with these people...that's why my friends are so nice! I need a foil! :laugh: :laugh:

dissention
11-28-2004, 10:34 PM
You're the man. :xoxo:

Hillary

I registered as...

AnnTheManStuffsHerBra

;)

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:34 PM
I registered as...

AnnTheManStuffsHerBra

;) :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

amber
11-28-2004, 10:36 PM
I registered as...

AnnTheManStuffsHerBra

;)
Noway! Did you say something? I have to look. Did you???? :p

GypsySorcerer
11-28-2004, 10:39 PM
Here's a snippet from their thread about why conservatives are seldom seen in academia. Someone actually said this and was serious.

"Leftards with useless humanities degrees have no choice but to enter the cloistered realm of academia, whereas conservatives apply their bachelor's and master's degrees to productive work in the business world and industry."

As an English major and history minor planning to pursue a master's degree in history, I'm loving that. :rolleyes:

Hillary


Speaking from personal experience here, the reason there's not more conservatives in academia, is because the longer you're there, the more you realize liberals are right.

dissention
11-28-2004, 10:40 PM
Noway! Did you say something? I have to look. Did you???? :p

Not yet, I have to get my confirmation email. ;)

amber
11-28-2004, 10:41 PM
Speaking from personal experience here, the reason there's not more conservatives in academia, is because the longer you're there, the more you realize liberals are right.
ha! someone take note, it's exactly what we thought! :laugh: :p
Love ya, gypsy! :xoxo:

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:41 PM
Speaking from personal experience here, the reason there's not more conservatives in academia, is because the longer you're there, the more you realize liberals are right.Krista, that statement just rules. That's all I can say. I'm just loving all the love I'm getting on this board tonight. :)

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:42 PM
Not yet, I have to get my confirmation email. ;)I think I can speak for more people than just myself--we can't wait to see what you're going to say. :D

Hillary

GypsySorcerer
11-28-2004, 10:47 PM
ha! someone take note, it's exactly what we thought! :laugh: :p
Love ya, gypsy! :xoxo:


Thanks. Back atcha. :xoxo:

ontheEdgeof17
11-28-2004, 10:47 PM
I think I can speak for more people than just myself--we can't wait to see what you're going to say. :D

Hillary


I've got my popcorn and front row seat. :wavey:

GypsySorcerer
11-28-2004, 10:49 PM
Krista, that statement just rules. That's all I can say. I'm just loving all the love I'm getting on this board tonight. :)

Hillary


Thank you. :xoxo:

dissention
11-28-2004, 10:52 PM
I think I can speak for more people than just myself--we can't wait to see what you're going to say. :D

Hillary

Check it out for yourselves...one post down, a million more to go until I'm banned. ;)

amber
11-28-2004, 10:56 PM
Check it out for yourselves...one post down, a million more to go until I'm banned. ;)
I just looked, and i didn't see anything. Is it the same thread as Hillary's stuff is on?

amber
11-28-2004, 10:57 PM
oh, i saw it now...:)

GateandGarden
11-28-2004, 10:57 PM
I just looked, and i didn't see anything. Is it the same thread as Hillary's stuff is on?Yes, and he's cracking me up! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

amber
11-28-2004, 11:00 PM
Yes, and he's cracking me up! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh, i just saw the other one, about a ****house on a tuna boat :lol: yep. I'm hoping he'll sometime soon kill them with some sort of logical argument...

ontheEdgeof17
11-28-2004, 11:01 PM
Yes, and he's cracking me up! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Aww....they can't call him AnnTheMan. It's ATM, instead. :lol:

dissention
11-28-2004, 11:04 PM
oh, i just saw the other one, about a ****house on a tuna boat :lol: yep. I'm hoping he'll sometime soon kill them with some sort of logical argument...

They'd disregard everything I say, what would be the point? :shrug: :laugh:

amber
11-28-2004, 11:06 PM
They'd disregard everything I say, what would be the point? :shrug: :laugh:
hmmm, i agree, but i guess the point would be to say something on point. You know, try to incite thought, and argument. Hey, if you don't want to, i understand. What you've posted so far is fricking hilarious, so i don't mind... :wavey: It seems fruitless to me, too...

ontheEdgeof17
11-28-2004, 11:08 PM
They'd disregard everything I say, what would be the point? :shrug: :laugh:


We should nominate you for Post of The Month. :nod:

amber
11-28-2004, 11:11 PM
hmmm, i agree, but i guess the point would be to say something on point. You know, try to incite thought, and argument. Hey, if you don't want to, i understand. What you've posted so far is fricking hilarious, so i don't mind... :wavey: It seems fruitless to me, too...
But...you know a lot about Ann Coulter, i expected you to kick some sh** down, bi**!!!! heheheh. :wavey:

dissention
11-28-2004, 11:16 PM
But...you know a lot about Ann Coulter, i expected you to kick some sh** down, bi**!!!! heheheh. :wavey:

I don't think rationally when it comes that hog. All I see is red. :cool:

I just posted as much of an argument as they're getting out of me. Next, it's quotes...direct from the horses mouth.

amber
11-28-2004, 11:18 PM
I don't think rationally when it comes that hog. All I see is red. :cool:

I just posted as much of an argument as they're getting out of me. Next, it's quotes...direct from the horses mouth.
sweeeeet. hmmm, i have a few things to say, then... ;) :wavey:

DeadliestPoison
11-28-2004, 11:19 PM
Her audience is the group of folks that bid $20,000 for a Virgin Mary (virgin? ha!) grilled cheese on eBay.
Oh man. ::waits for the religious posts to come flooding::

amber
11-28-2004, 11:26 PM
Just saw your new posts, Dissy McSenssion. Love it!!!! :lol:

amber
11-28-2004, 11:34 PM
Ha, I like how you put "human being" in quotation marks! :lol: Bwahhhh!

dissention
11-28-2004, 11:35 PM
Ha, I like how you put "human being" in quotation marks! :lol: Bwahhhh!

I thought that was particularly funny myself. :woohoo:

amber
11-28-2004, 11:39 PM
I thought that was particularly funny myself. :woohoo:
Of course. Now that i know more, she really is an aberrant freak of nature (sp?). "Hello? 12th Century? your spokeswoMAN is here, and we want to send her back..."
:lol:

dissention
11-28-2004, 11:41 PM
Of course. Now that i know more, she really is an aberrant freak of nature (sp?). "Hello? 12th Century? your spokeswoMAN is here, and we want to send her back..."
:lol:

She's a disgrace to humanity. If there really is a God, he f*cked up big time with that thing we've come to know as Ann Coulter.

amber
11-28-2004, 11:45 PM
She's a disgrace to humanity. If there really is a God, he f*cked up big time with that thing we've come to know as Ann Coulter.
It occurs to me, she should've been in the cast of Stepford Wives... :)

ontheEdgeof17
11-28-2004, 11:51 PM
It occurs to me, she should've been in the cast of Stepford Wives... :)


As Glenn Close's husband :]

amber
11-28-2004, 11:53 PM
As Glenn Close's husband :]
:laugh: :lol: :laugh:
Yes...YES!!! :laugh:

gldstwmn
11-28-2004, 11:56 PM
[COLOR=Indigo]If you've got some spare time, check out this thead in which I attempted to have a calm discussion on an Ann Coulter fan board

Ann Coulter is mentally ill, darling. It's just no use.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 12:26 AM
hmmm, i agree, but i guess the point would be to say something on point. You know, try to incite thought, and argument. Hey, if you don't want to, i understand. What you've posted so far is fricking hilarious, so i don't mind... :wavey: It seems fruitless to me, too...I'm with Amber, diss. They'll disagree with you but some of them are nice enough to read what you're saying and think about it enough to come up with some kind of argument. I think they're just asking to be backed into a corner, and you'd be the one to do it. Still, you're cracking me up.

And I notice that Nancy has them cornered where Christianity's concerned, too. (In my opinion, me not being particularly knowledgeable about Christianity to begin with). And someone else joined in as well. I think it's someone I now from the Legboard; not sure if it's someone from here. Do y'all know that person, username starts with a b?

I read the chapter about gay marriage and gay rights in general in How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must) and it really pissed me off. She said that gays can visit anyone in the hospital they want--partners, next-door neighbors, and complete strangers. Talk about twisting the truth. Yeah, I could go see my girlfriend if she had her tonsils removed, but if she's in the ICU, hanging by a thread, and her family says I'm not part of their family, I'm not allowed to see her, 'cause it's family only, obviously. (Not that I have a girlfriend--this is hypothetical). But it's incredibly insensitive to manipulate that and spread lies about that subject--it's matter of life and death! What if that were her spouse dying in the hospital, and she never even got to see him! That's horrible! And that's just one example of the crap she spews!

How many rants have I done tonight? :laugh:

Hillary

amber
11-29-2004, 12:33 AM
[COLOR=DarkRed]. Do y'all know that person, username starts with a b?

that's me, dear.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 12:34 AM
Ann Coulter is mentally ill, darling. It's just no use.Do you really think that or are you just saying that because it's more comforting to think that someone's mentally ill than just plain evil?

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 12:36 AM
that's me, dear.Oh. Now I feel stupid because I didn't know that all this time. :o

Hillary

GypsySorcerer
11-29-2004, 12:40 AM
Do you really think that or are you just saying that because it's more comforting to think that someone's mentally ill than just plain evil?

Hillary

If I didn't know better, I'd almost think Coulter is parodying ultra conservatives. She's like a charicature. I didn't know anyone took her seriously, really. Even my parents who are rabid right-wingers, don't like her. :laugh:

amber
11-29-2004, 12:41 AM
Oh. Now I feel stupid because I didn't know that all this time. :o

Hillary
Why would you know? :confused:

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 12:47 AM
If I didn't know better, I'd almost think Coulter is parodying ultra conservatives. She's like a charicature. I didn't know anyone took her seriously, really. Even my parents who are rabid right-wingers, don't like her. :laugh:Yes, it is really hard to believe that she's being serious. And I also know some Republicans who don't like her. There must be something to that.

Why would you know?Well, I guess I just felt like I was supposed to, like I should've recognized your writing from this board. But I guess the only reason people know me from the ezboards is that I put "Hillary" at the end of almost all of my posts, unless I'm at the Ann Coulter Fan Forum. :laugh: As annoying as it is when people start saying "Can I call you Leanne?" or "Laene" or something like that, I prefer that over them knowing my name.

Wow, that turned into rambling pretty quickly. :rolleyes: :]

sodascouts
11-29-2004, 12:51 AM
I think Ann knows what gets a reaction and says it. I wonder if she really believes what she's saying. I find it hard to believe that anyone intelligent could hold some of the extremist views she holds. It's an embarrassment to conservatives.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 12:53 AM
I think Ann knows what gets a reaction and says it. I wonder if she really believes what she's saying. I find it hard to beleive that anyone intelligent could hold some of the extremist views she holds. It's an embarrassment to conservatives.I feel the same way about Michael Moore sometimes, that he's an embarrassment to liberals. This whole experience has taught me a thing or two about extremism, if nothing else. I'm sorry if there are a lot of Michael Moore fans on here; maybe he's not as bad as Ann, but he strikes me as being along those lines.

Hillary

amber
11-29-2004, 12:56 AM
Yes, it is really hard to believe that she's being serious. And I also know some Republicans who don't like her. There must be something to that.

Well, I guess I just felt like I was supposed to, like I should've recognized your writing from this board. But I guess the only reason people know me from the ezboards is that I put "Hillary" at the end of almost all of my posts, unless I'm at the Ann Coulter Fan Forum. :laugh: As annoying as it is when people start saying "Can I call you Leanne?" or "Laene" or something like that, I prefer that over them knowing my name.

Wow, that turned into rambling pretty quickly. :rolleyes: :]
Ah, I hardly post.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 01:03 AM
dissention better get back there--

"Seems there is a liberal loose here. You can tell he/she has nothing intelligent to say by the amount of mud and venom being slung."

:mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

Man, this is so fun that I'm forgetting that I have to go to bed at some point.

Hillary

amber
11-29-2004, 01:07 AM
dissention better get back there--

"Seems there is a liberal loose here. You can tell he/she has nothing intelligent to say by the amount of mud and venom being slung."

:mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

Man, this is so fun that I'm forgetting that I have to go to bed at some point.

Hillary
ooo, i better go look! :)

gldstwmn
11-29-2004, 02:03 AM
Do you really think that or are you just saying that because it's more comforting to think that someone's mentally ill than just plain evil?

Hillary

Anyone who is that evil is mentally ill, IMO. Whether she is whoring for them or really believes what she says is open to speculation. But it makes no difference really. It only proves my point even further.

dissention
11-29-2004, 12:18 PM
I feel the same way about Michael Moore sometimes, that he's an embarrassment to liberals. This whole experience has taught me a thing or two about extremism, if nothing else. I'm sorry if there are a lot of Michael Moore fans on here; maybe he's not as bad as Ann, but he strikes me as being along those lines.

Hillary

He's the only liberal with a set of balls.

He's nowhere near as bad as Ann the Man, not even in the slightest. She doesn't believe that women should vote. She supports public flogging. She thinks people should be taxed at the polls. She once got into an on-air fight with a disabled Vietnam veteran and told him that it was men who like him who made us lose that war. She thinks children should be armed with guns. She wants to invade Muslim countries, kill Muslim leaders, and convert the people into Christians. If anyone can show me a position of Moore's that is anywhere near as wacky and ridiculous as one of hers, I'll kiss your ass six ways to Sunday. :woohoo:

wondergirl9847
11-29-2004, 12:41 PM
She doesn't believe that women should vote. She supports public flogging. She thinks people should be taxed at the polls. She once got into an on-air fight with a disabled Vietnam veteran and told him that it was men who like him who made us lose that war. She thinks children should be armed with guns. She wants to invade Muslim countries, kill Muslim leaders, and convert the people into Christians.

ROTFLMAO!! She's a nutcase. Who is this lady, just some shmuck on the radio or something?

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 02:17 PM
He's the only liberal with a set of balls.

He's nowhere near as bad as Ann the Man, not even in the slightest. She doesn't believe that women should vote. She supports public flogging. She thinks people should be taxed at the polls. She once got into an on-air fight with a disabled Vietnam veteran and told him that it was men who like him who made us lose that war. She thinks children should be armed with guns. She wants to invade Muslim countries, kill Muslim leaders, and convert the people into Christians. If anyone can show me a position of Moore's that is anywhere near as wacky and ridiculous as one of hers, I'll kiss your ass six ways to Sunday. :woohoo:Well, I can safely say that I've never heard Moore say things so offensive and preposterous, but is he really soemone we would want to represent us liberals? Does anyone out there really make extremism look good, and logical, for that matter? He can be so condescending. At the moment, that's the only thing I can think of that really bothers me about him, but I'm sure there's more.

And think about this, the Ann fanatics praise Ann for the same thing--being the one who has balls. Well, that's just funny, the context of what we've been talking about lately. :laugh: Never mind. I guess you know what I mean.

Hillary

dissention
11-29-2004, 02:33 PM
Well, I can safely say that I've never heard Moore say things so offensive and preposterous, but is he really soemone we would want to represent us liberals? Does anyone out there really make extremism look good, and logical, for that matter? He can be so condescending. At the moment, that's the only thing I can think of that really bothers me about him, but I'm sure there's more.

And think about this, the Ann fanatics praise Ann for the same thing--being the one who has balls. Well, that's just funny, the context of what we've been talking about lately. :laugh: Never mind. I guess you know what I mean.

Hillary

He can represent me any day of the week. :D

The truth is condescending when you're trying to show it to stupid and/or ill-informed people. ;)

Ann the Man does have balls, she would have to have a pair in order to say the ridiculous and illogical things she says. Doesn't mean she's ever right, though, as those people on that board like to believe.

gldstwmn
11-29-2004, 04:14 PM
[COLOR=DarkGreen]Well, I can safely say that I've never heard Moore say things so offensive and preposterous, but is he really soemone we would want to represent us liberals?

You bet. Moore is based in fact. No one could say that about Coulter. I don't know what you find so extreme about him but to each his own.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 04:24 PM
You bet. Moore is based in fact. No one could say that about Coulter. I don't know what you find so extreme about him but to each his own.I just remember being annoyed a bit during Fahrenheit 9/11, wishing that he would just let the events speak for themselves, rather than forcing his over-the-top voiceovers onto the viewers. I could get the point without the voiceovers. :rolleyes: I guess I don't have anything more concrete than that. I really did enjoy some episodes of "The Awful Truth," and I remember liking Bowling for Columbine a lot, though it's been awhile since I've seen it.

But if there are extremists on the far right who spread half-truths and outright lies and take everything several steps too far, wouldn't there be people on the far left who do the exact same thing. I'm the kind of person who likes extremes and has problems doing things in moderation, and my Mom and others are constantly telling me how that's a bad way to be. It just seems to me that approaching politics in an extreme way from either side can't be good. Any thoughts? I know I'm being abstract. :shrug: (I just put the "shrug" emoticon and that somehow justifies me being kinda inarticulate). :laugh:

Hillary

Highway Woman
11-29-2004, 04:30 PM
Most of dissention's posts have been deleted, FYI.

dissention
11-29-2004, 04:31 PM
Most of dissention's posts have been deleted, FYI.

Aw shucks. :laugh:

I knew they would, though.

amber
11-29-2004, 05:08 PM
Censorship? On that board? why, i'm shocked...SHOCKED!!! :laugh:

gldstwmn
11-29-2004, 05:42 PM
I just remember being annoyed a bit during Fahrenheit 9/11, wishing that he would just let the events speak for themselves, rather than forcing his over-the-top voiceovers onto the viewers. I could get the point without the voiceovers.


Of course you could. But do you think some of the people on the say, Ann Coulter board could get the point without the voice over?

SuzeQuze
11-29-2004, 07:04 PM
I was out Friday and was trying to talk to some people who voted for Bush about some issues and I wound up SCREAMING at them. Ugh. I was so upset by their take on his policies that I had a fit. I guess that's not really the way to go. Although, one of the people I was talking to told me that his Dad, a staunch Republican forever, voted for Kerry because he is so strongly opposed to the war in Iraq. :D I need to learn to communicate with these people without diminishing myself or my views by yelling! :] Haha.

gldstwmn
11-29-2004, 07:09 PM
I was out Friday and was trying to talk to some people who voted for Bush about some issues and I wound up SCREAMING at them. Ugh. I was so upset by their take on his policies that I had a fit. I guess that's not really the way to go. Although, one of the people I was talking to told me that his Dad, a staunch Republican forever, voted for Kerry because he is so strongly opposed to the war in Iraq. :D I need to learn to communicate with these people without diminishing myself or my views by yelling! :] Haha.

Just out of curiosity, what were some of the excuses they gave for his policies?
Kudos to to R who voted for Kerry.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 07:30 PM
Censorship? On that board? why, i'm shocked...SHOCKED!!! :laugh:My thoughts too! :laugh:

Hillary

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 07:37 PM
Of course you could. But do you think some of the people on the say, Ann Coulter board could get the point without the voice over?Well, it's hard to argue with that. But a part of me thinks that those who can't get it without the voiceovers will never get it, but I guess that's not necessarily true.

Hillary

golddustdragon
11-29-2004, 09:51 PM
When Ann was on Bill Maher's show, she was getting seriously booed by the audience and the other guests but he seemed to defend her. How does he find her attractive? Now, in the looks department, she's not as ugly as you folks make her out to be. What makes her ugly are her nutty views. Geez, not even Maureen Dowd(on the other side) is that crazy. How the heck can Bill like her?

dissention
11-29-2004, 10:04 PM
When Ann was on Bill Maher's show, she was getting seriously booed by the audience and the other guests but he seemed to defend her. How does he find her attractive? Now, in the looks department, she's not as ugly as you folks make her out to be. What makes her ugly are her nutty views. Geez, not even Maureen Dowd(on the other side) is that crazy. How the heck can Bill like her?

She's beastly, man. Look at the Adam's Apple. She's probably got a bigger package than I do. Bill likes trash, therefore he likes Coultergeist.

I? Love Maureen Dowd. She needs to learn how to apply make-up properly, but so what, leave her alone! :laugh:

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 10:30 PM
The movie I'm dying to see is Meet the Fochers :xoxo:

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 10:32 PM
oh **** I posted in the wrong thread :laugh:

GypsySorcerer
11-29-2004, 10:39 PM
She's beastly, man. Look at the Adam's Apple. She's probably got a bigger package than I do. Bill likes trash, therefore he likes Coultergeist.

I? Love Maureen Dowd. She needs to learn how to apply make-up properly, but so what, leave her alone! :laugh:


:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: Coulter can apparently outdrink the rest of 'em too.

DeadliestPoison
11-29-2004, 10:46 PM
She's probably got a bigger package than I do.
http://www.blackinkdarkness.org/board/html/emoticons/ho****.gif :laugh:

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 10:48 PM
Y'all should return to that forum. Someone posted a link to The Ledge (this thread). Now they're laughing their asses off.

DeadliestPoison
11-29-2004, 10:51 PM
How much does your life SUCK that you have stooped so low as to worship freeking middle-aged has-been celebrities? I mean, CHER?????????? And FLEETWOOD MAC? If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't believe it. It's like you think these actresses and performers are REAL, and you have no idea that these are just people PERFORMING and it's just a JOB. On some level, do you really think that these show-business professionals actually CARE about you, when THEY'RE smart enough to get your money away from you and YOURE fools enough to seriously believe they are the pretend characters they portray? They think you're IDIOTS! Don't you realize that if you blubbering lovesick geeks were lying in a gutter on Hollywood Boulevard, Cher wouldn't so much as take a crap on ANY of you? Stevie Nicks either, although she might use you as an ashtray. Oh, you pooooooooooooooor losers: GET A LIFE! Try really really hard!
Assumptions, yay!

DeadliestPoison
11-29-2004, 10:58 PM
They're DORKS -- and they probably all go to FLEETWOOD MAC festivals and dress up all SEXY and SCARY and they've found a place they can all be dorks together!)
Oh my God! It's like s/he KNOWS ME WTFOMGLOLBBQ!1~~

I must now twirl under the velveteen sky~~~ to worship ~THE ENCHANTRESS~*~ Miss Bella Donna~Gypsy~Garbo~Moonbeam~~~ Stevie Nicks~~ dressed in my shawls and scarves with my half~moon tambourine to invoke her ~*~bewitching~*~ spirit ~~~ BLESSED BE, MY FRIENDS!!!~~





Damn, that was painful to write. o_O

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 10:59 PM
Oh my God! It's like s/he KNOWS ME WTFOMGLOLBBQ!1~~

I must now twirl under the velveteen sky~~~ to worship ~THE ENCHANTRESS~*~ Miss Bella Donna~Gypsy~Garbo~Moonbeam~~~ Stevie Nicks~~ dressed in my shawls and scarves with my half~moon tambourine to invoke her ~*~bewitching~*~ spirit ~~~ BLESSED BE, MY FRIENDS!!!~~





Damn, that was painful to write. o_O :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 11:05 PM
CHER, where did that retard somehow think we all like CHER (no offense to those who may like her) but this is a Fleetwood Mac board idiot.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 11:08 PM
CHER, where did that retard somehow think we all like CHER (no offense to those who may like her) but this is a Fleetwood Mac board idiot.They got that because I am a huge Cher fan, and one of them went to look at what other boards I post at.

DeadliestPoison
11-29-2004, 11:11 PM
:laugh:. It dissed Blondie.
Oh, and some really thought-provoking sigs, like:

Quote:
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let's go...boom boom in the zoom zoom room
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Yep, like a 3 dollar bill, boyz.
Ouch. That one's a stinger. :eyes:

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 11:24 PM
Oh Hillary I just noticed that. Ummm they're quoting posters fromt his board I've never heard of. RhiannonStarship :confused:

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 11:25 PM
Oh Hillary I just noticed that. Ummm they're quoting posters fromt his board I've never heard of. RhiannonStarship :confused:Those are posters from the Buckingham Nicks board, Nancy's board.

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 11:28 PM
Those are posters from the Buckingham Nicks board, Nancy's board.

Oh man, they're really going on a scavenger hunt with you. You should be proud that you can stir up so much commotion with people obsessed with Ann Culter :laugh: It's funny how that Zen whatever guy finds it so funny that this a a Fleetwood Mac baord and not a physics board, but seriously how is Fleetwood Mac any worse then Ann Culter

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 11:29 PM
but seriously how is Fleetwood Mac any worse then Ann CulterI really don't know. :shrug:

Hawkeye
11-29-2004, 11:37 PM
And one last question, why do you torture yourself by posting on that board. It doesn't make sense.

GateandGarden
11-29-2004, 11:40 PM
And one last question, why do you torture yourself by posting on that board. It doesn't make sense.I know, I know. My initial intention was just to see what they said they liked about the woman, and I wasn't going to respond to anything. But when someone started attacking me personally right off the bat, I instinctively felt that I should defend myself. Then when it got really bad, I just left, and resumed the lurking. I didn't mean for it to turn into drama, but that's what happened.

amber
11-30-2004, 01:09 AM
Well, since we all know that they are pretty lamatardinal (lame uh tard i nuhl)
I really can't see how we should care... :D :thumbsup:

sodascouts
11-30-2004, 01:09 AM
lol We've been BUSTED!

amber
11-30-2004, 02:23 AM
lol We've been BUSTED!
Nice posts... :)

GateandGarden
11-30-2004, 02:42 AM
Nice posts... :)Yours too. :xoxo:

amber
11-30-2004, 02:44 AM
Yours too. :xoxo:
thanks. I had to add one this eve. :D

sodascouts
11-30-2004, 02:45 AM
Nice posts... :)

As a tried-and-true Republican Fleetwood Mac website owner, I feel I am in a unique position to debunk certain stereotypes! lol

amber
11-30-2004, 02:47 AM
As a tried-and-true Republican Fleetwood Mac website owner, I feel I am in a unique position to debunk certain stereotypes! lol
totally! you can't let the Mac go down! :thumbsup:

Sugar
11-30-2004, 08:51 AM
WOW. A place where "What university do you attend" is an insult...

Scary stuff... :shocked:

SuzeQuze
11-30-2004, 09:51 AM
Just out of curiosity, what were some of the excuses they gave for his policies?
Kudos to to R who voted for Kerry.

This guy makes over 200k and only cares about his money (read Bush tax cut). He actually agreed that Iraq is a mess which just made me sicker. My roommate said "we needed a foothold in the middle east". I'm like, "Wha????" Frigging unbelievable.

dissention
11-30-2004, 11:11 AM
:laugh:. It dissed Blondie.

Ouch. That one's a stinger. :eyes:

Feh. Consider the source, Greg. ;) I'll take the prose of my fellow atheist Miss Debbie over the smut Ann the Man peddles to the conservative pigs.

Love how I was attacked for my liberal venom, yet as soon as I stopped posting about Coultergeist, their conservative venom reached a fever pitch. :thumbsup:

gldstwmn
11-30-2004, 12:20 PM
This guy makes over 200k and only cares about his money (read Bush tax cut). He actually agreed that Iraq is a mess which just made me sicker. My roommate said "we needed a foothold in the middle east". I'm like, "Wha????" Frigging unbelievable.

Yup it always comes down to the almighty dollar, which isn't going to be worth jack we keep going the way we have been.
As for a "foothold in the middle east," we already had one with our bases in Saudi Arabia and Turkey. We also send an awful lot of money to Israel and they have nuclear weapons.

DrummerDeanna
11-30-2004, 12:44 PM
Yikes :eek: That was really frightening...:nod:

SuzeQuze
11-30-2004, 01:02 PM
Yup it always comes down to the almighty dollar, which isn't going to be worth jack we keep going the way we have been.
As for a "foothold in the middle east," we already had one with our bases in Saudi Arabia and Turkey. We also send an awful lot of money to Israel and they have nuclear weapons.

I know, and this war did NOT give us a foothold, unless standing in quicksand counts.

I told him just that about the dollar. Guess what he said? Dems always say that and Bill Clinton likes to take credit for the stellar economy that was really due to dot coms which had nothing to do with him, blah blah... Like that has anything to do with Dubya ruining this economy? Except to say that if BC wasn't responsible for the upswing then GWB isn't responsible for the downturn. Dubya isn't responsible for anything that's gone wrong because he doesn't make mistakes, he never takes blame for anything and it is maddening.

Anyhow, my point was this guy's money would be worthless but I don't think he could even let his mind "go there" since he changed the subject to Bill. See why I was so pissed? Hehe.

sodascouts
11-30-2004, 01:18 PM
I have been deemed a liberal over there now. Aren't you Democrats appalled that I've been lumped in with you? :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
11-30-2004, 01:20 PM
I have been deemed a liberal over there now. Aren't you Democrats appalled that I've been lumped in with you? :laugh:

I thought it was hilarious that he kept refering to you as a liberal - and when you tried to clarify - he insisted that you are, in fact, a liberal....

it must be a comfort knowing that some weirdo on the internet knows more about you than you do - you flaming liberal you ;)

:laugh:

dissention
11-30-2004, 01:20 PM
I have been deemed a liberal over there now. Aren't you Democrats appalled that I've been lumped in with you? :laugh:

:laugh:

Anyone who isn't a nutcase of a neocon is considered a liberal, especially on a message board devoted to worshipping Coultergeist. Those people make you look like a Kennedy, Nancy. ;)

gldstwmn
11-30-2004, 01:31 PM
I know, and this war did NOT give us a foothold, unless standing in quicksand counts.

I told him just that about the dollar. Guess what he said? Dems always say that and Bill Clinton likes to take credit for the stellar economy that was really due to dot coms which had nothing to do with him, blah blah... Like that has anything to do with Dubya ruining this economy? Except to say that if BC wasn't responsible for the upswing then GWB isn't responsible for the downturn. Dubya isn't responsible for anything that's gone wrong because he doesn't make mistakes, he never takes blame for anything and it is maddening.

Anyhow, my point was this guy's money would be worthless but I don't think he could even let his mind "go there" since he changed the subject to Bill. See why I was so pissed? Hehe.

Yup. The blame Clinton meme is a classic sign of listening to Hannity, Rush, etc.
The falling dollar is a direct result of the huge deficit, which is a direct result of W's insane tax custs. No two ways around it.

gldstwmn
11-30-2004, 01:32 PM
I have been deemed a liberal over there now. Aren't you Democrats appalled that I've been lumped in with you? :laugh:

No. We're a big tent. It just goes to show that, like I said, Coultergeist and her ilk are mentally ill.

SuzeQuze
11-30-2004, 01:33 PM
Yup. The blame Clinton meme is a classic sign of listening to Hannity, Rush, etc.
The falling dollar is a direct result of the huge deficit, which is a direct result of W's insane tax custs. No two ways around it.

Right on, just like one plus one equals two. :nod:

gldstwmn
11-30-2004, 01:38 PM
Right on, just like one plus one equals two. :nod:

Unless you're using Neocon math. :lol:

dissention
11-30-2004, 01:40 PM
Unless you're using Neocon math. :lol:

Just look at that Reagan chart in Franken's book. Christ, I'll pay anyone who can decipher that ****. :laugh:

SuzeQuze
11-30-2004, 01:42 PM
Unless you're using Neocon math. :lol:

LOL, omigod they would argue that isn't true or just <i>spin</i> it to confuse people! On Air America they were talking about how the documentary is the one area where liberals have gotten their views accross quite well but Neocons have not because it is not a good medium for them since it is fact-based.