Stevie & Bette

[Serrart]

It may be a silly question, but I'm curious. I have just read in the "Stevie Picture I Hadn't Seen" thread that Jana Anderson's husband plays trumpet in Bette Midler's band. Isn't this a returning connection? Marty Hom, Cory, and I think Ray Lindsay too went to work for her. Is it all a coincidence? I'm asking it also because it would be a hoot to see Stevie perform with her for a duet. :cool: :thumbsup:

Romy

[ontheEdgeof17]

Isn't Taku on Bette's tour, too?

[Serrart]

Isn't Taku on Bette's tour, too?

You're right, I forgot about him. It seems there's a FM tribe on tour with Bette... :D

Romy

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I think Jill the wardrobe lady works with Bette too. She told me in London that she turned down Bette to travel with FM but that Kim Brakely wasn't with FM in Europe because she hadn't turned her down!

Pip

[dissention]

You're right, I forgot about him. It seems there's a FM tribe on tour with Bette... :D

Romy

Taku's been with Bette for a quite a while (since Divine Miss Millennium), as have Ray Lindsey and the rest. :nod:

During the first leg of her Kiss My Brass tour, there was a Stevie mention in the tourbook in the Dolores DeLago (the Toast of Chicago!) section that says "She loved to party and according to close friend Stevie Nicks, '...if there was a vodka and an aquarium - Delores was there.'"

I think a duet between the two would be a disaster, though. I can't quite think of anyone who has enough presence and energy to stand next to that woman onstage, save maybe Miss Tina. :laugh: But I'd die to see Stevie sing Big Noise From Winnetka, while putting peacock feathers in your mouth and twirling about the stage. :laugh:

"I am the one they call the Big Noise
I'm looking fine and feeling sharp
I just blew in from Winettka, daddy-o
I'm gonna blow this joint apart
Got my Reeblechs, don't need high heels
My footwork is an art
You know the joint is jumping
My hip is throbbin'
And this is just the start..."

[dissention]

I think Jill the wardrobe lady works with Bette too. She told me in London that she turned down Bette to travel with FM but that Kim Brakely wasn't with FM in Europe because she hadn't turned her down!

Pip

Miss Jill needs to get Stevie in the pink leather mini's that she's got Bette wearing this time around. :laugh:

[amber]

Miss Jill needs to get Stevie in the pink leather mini's that she's got Bette wearing this time around. :laugh:
AAAAHHHH!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! My eyes! my poor eyes! :eek:

[dissention]

AAAAHHHH!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH! My eyes! my poor eyes! :eek:

I think Bette looks amazing. She lost tons of weight back in 2000 and has kept it all off. Each time I saw her on the Kiss My Brass tour, I was amazed at how wonderful she looked. :nod: And she's still a show-stopper and perhaps the greatest live entertainer in history.

[amber]

I think Bette looks amazing. She lost tons of weight back in 2000 and has kept it all off. Each time I saw her on the Kiss My Brass tour, I was amazed at how wonderful she looked. :nod: And she's still a show-stopper and perhaps the greatest live entertainer in history.
That's great, but i still don't want to see a PINK leather mini on Stevie. For God's sake. :laugh:
Also, for Bette to look amazing...well, that's good, but she's not really very attractive to start with, unfortunately... :D

[dissention]

That's great, but i still don't want to see a PINK leather mini on Stevie. For God's sake. :laugh:

Well, I don't either, but that goes without saying. :laugh:

[amber]

Well, I don't either, but that goes without saying. :laugh:
:laugh:
but for the 'bok haters, at least she really couldn't wear them with a pink mini... :D still...AAAAHHHHHH! MY EYES! :laugh:

[dissention]

Also, for Bette to look amazing...well, that's good, but she's not really very attractive to start with, unfortunately... :D

I don't think she's incredibly attractive looks-wise, but I think her demeanor and presence is ultra sexy, just as I think Camryn Manheim's presence and confidence makes her very sexy. Did you ever see The Rose? She was very sexy during many of those songs, IMO. :)

[dissention]

:laugh:
but for the 'bok haters, at least she really couldn't wear them with a pink mini... :D still...AAAAHHHHHH! MY EYES! :laugh:

She couldn't wear those wretched shoes and get away with it EVER unless the audience was completely blind. :lol:

[amber]

I don't think she's incredibly attractive looks-wise, but I think her demeanor and presence is ultra sexy, just as I think Camryn Manheim's presence and confidence makes her very sexy. Did you ever see The Rose? She was very sexy during many of those songs, IMO. :)
Uh, i guess she was sexy during those songs. I forgot about your slight chubby chaser tendencies... :lol: Just kidding.

[amber]

She couldn't wear those wretched shoes and get away with it EVER unless the audience was completely blind. :lol:
I'm not one of the 'bok haters. But you go! I'm one of the layery dress haters. but in the end, i don't really care that much. if stevie wants to look chubbers in layers, that's her business :shrug:

[dissention]

Uh, i guess she was sexy during those songs. I forgot about your slight chubby chaser tendencies... :lol: Just kidding.

I don't have "chubby tendencies," I simply don't have unrealistic expectations for people's bodies. Not everyone is a size two and not everyone diets on water and Altoids, and those facts don't make them unattractive. Sexiness isn't just about looks, it's about humour, confidence, and personality. ;) :)

But you have a thing for bloated old fools like Val Kilmer, so... :laugh: :xoxo:

[amber]

I don't have "chubby tendencies," I simply don't have unrealistic expectations for people's bodies. Not everyone is a size two and not everyone diets on water and Altoids, and those facts don't make them unattractive. Sexiness isn't just about looks, it's about humour, confidence, and personality. ;) :)

But you have a thing for bloated old fools like Val Kilmer, so... :laugh: :xoxo:
thanks for the speech, but my hope in putting in "just kidding" was to avoid the speech, honestly. And it's "chubby CHASER tendencies" :laugh: :wavey:
Val can't be too big a fool, he's had a nice and lucrative career. :D

[dissention]

thanks for the speech, but my hope in putting in "just kidding" was to avoid the speech, honestly. And it's "chubby CHASER tendencies" :laugh: :wavey:

I'll make speeches if I want and when I want, thankyouverymuch. :xoxo:

[dissention]

Val can't be too big a fool, he's had a nice and lucrative career. :D

Yeah, and when was his last hit? Batman Forever? :laugh: :lol: He couldn't command $5 million even if he wanted to. But $50,000 is lucrative to me, so you're right in that respect. :laugh:

[amber]

I'll make speeches if I want and when I want, thankyouverymuch. :xoxo:
oh, I know. I was *hoping* to avoid it, you know "f*** em if they can't take a joke" and all that? But we don't always avoid all the speeches we want to, do we? No matter how many laughies we put next to what we say... :laugh: :wavey:

[amber]

Yeah, and when was his last hit? Batman Forever? :laugh: :lol: He couldn't command $5 million even if he wanted to. But $50,000 is lucrative to me, so you're right in that respect. :laugh:
um, he still makes more than you, is famous, and most importantly, is a good actor. it seems his last hit was probably The Saint. I thought Salton Sea was good, though. He makes more than Camryn Manheim... :laugh:

[dissention]

oh, I know. I was *hoping* to avoid it, you know "f*** em if they can't take a joke" and all that? But we don't always avoid all the speeches we want to, do we? No matter how many laughies we put next to what we say... :laugh: :wavey:

I took it as a joke, which is why I laughed, but I just wanted to point out my definition of sexy. ;)

[dissention]

um, he still makes more than you,

Which is why I said oyu were right about the lucrative part. ;) Cataracts?

is famous, and most importantly, is a good actor. it seems his last hit was probably The Saint. I thought Salton Sea was good, though. He makes more than Camryn Manheim... :laugh:

The Saint bombed.

He sabotaged his own career with his diva behavior and ****ty attitude.

[amber]

I took it as a joke, which is why I laughed, but I just wanted to point out my definition of sexy. ;)
good show, then. At least it's a nice definition.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

And dont forget Marty Hom, Fleetwood Mac's tour manager in 2003 left the tour after the US portion ended to work on Bette's tour.

And Stevie said at the Las Vegas show, the last one, "he's leaving us to go to work with BETTE MIDLER!!!" and dedicated Landslide to him

Chris

[amber]

Which is why I said oyu were right about the lucrative part. ;) Cataracts?



The Saint bombed.

He sabotaged his own career with his diva behavior and ****ty attitude.
The Saint didn't bomb. :confused: No, i don't have cataracts. I read it. but you preceded it with "he couldn't command bleah bleah"
Yeah, apparently he's nicer, now. He certainly has a less than stellar rep. but -
He can diva is a** off all he wants, all around my apartment, in his ********* if he feels like it. I certainly wouldn't mind... :D :lol:

[dissention]

The Saint didn't bomb. :confused: No, i don't have cataracts. I read it. but you preceded it with "he couldn't command bleah bleah"
Yeah, apparently he's nicer, now. He certainly has a less than stellar rep. but -
He can diva is a** off all he wants, all around my apartment, in his ********* if he feels like it. I certainly wouldn't mind... :D :lol:

The Saint cost $70 million to make, and that's without factoring in promotion and print costs. It made only $61 million and failed to do good business overseas. In the end, it made nothing substantial of a profit.

Yup, a bomb.

[amber]

The Saint cost $70 million to make, and that's without factoring in promotion and print costs. It made only $61 million and failed to do good business overseas. In the end, it made nothing of a profit.

Yup, a bomb.
hmmm...I sure liked it.

[dissention]

hmmm...I sure liked it.

I thought it was watchable, but still a box office bomb. :woohoo:

[amber]

I thought it was watchable, but still a box office bomb. :woohoo:
yeah. But good movies are "bombs" sometimes. Just like chubby people are sometimes attractive. Anyway, I really enjoyed it, so that's good. Besides, it sounds like it probably scraped even, just. :) :rolleyes:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I forgot to mention this a few weeks ago but Bette was on Good Day Live and Arthel (Taku's wife) interviewed her. They spoke briefly about Taku and showed his picture and also mentioned Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. I was on the phone but everyone at work was like, "SHE HAS YOUR STEVIE NECKLACE ON!" It looks like Stevie gave her a moon necklace so I'd say yes, they're friends :nod:

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

But I'd die to see Stevie sing Big Noise From Winnetka, while putting peacock feathers in your mouth and twirling about the stage. :laugh:

:laugh: I'd like to see Stevie's take of Otto Titsling! :lol:

[glitter_fades]

I forgot to mention this a few weeks ago but Bette was on Good Day Live and Arthel (Taku's wife) interviewed her. They spoke briefly about Taku and showed his picture and also mentioned Fleetwood Mac and Stevie. I was on the phone but everyone at work was like, "SHE HAS YOUR STEVIE NECKLACE ON!" It looks like Stevie gave her a moon necklace so I'd say yes, they're friends :nod:

Yes, they are definitely friends. I was at the "Kiss My Brass" show at America West Arena last night and I saw Stevie. Bette gave her a big ups, and she said how much she loves Stevie. Bette always gives 110% but last night she went the extra 200% because Stevie was in da house. No doubt about it. It was the best show I've ever seen. Sorry, Stevie.

:blob1:

[dissention]

yeah. But good movies are "bombs" sometimes. Just like chubby people are sometimes attractive. Anyway, I really enjoyed it, so that's good. Besides, it sounds like it probably scraped even, just. :) :rolleyes:

Most good movies usually never make any money, you're right. If only good movies were hits, **** like "The Fast and the Furious" and "Bruce Almighty" wouldn't be hits and movies like "Wendigo" and "Real Women Have Curves" would be blockbusters. :nod:

[dissention]

Yes, they are definitely friends. I was at the "Kiss My Brass" show at America West Arena last night and I saw Stevie. Bette gave her a big ups, and she said how much she loves Stevie. Bette always gives 110% but last night she went the extra 200% because Stevie was in da house. No doubt about it. It was the best show I've ever seen. Sorry, Stevie.

:blob1:

:thumbsup: I so can't picture Stevie at a Bette concert. She must have blushed at the filthy jokes. :laugh:

What were your favorite songs from last night? The Clooney ones are spectacular. :nod: But I'm partial to I Think It's Going To Rain Today...glad she pulled out Midnight In Memphis again.

[Serrart]

Taku's been with Bette for a quite a while (since Divine Miss Millennium), as have Ray Lindsey and the rest. :nod:

During the first leg of her Kiss My Brass tour, there was a Stevie mention in the tourbook in the Dolores DeLago (the Toast of Chicago!) section that says "She loved to party and according to close friend Stevie Nicks, '...if there was a vodka and an aquarium - Delores was there.'"

I didn't know that, thanks for the info! :thumbsup:

I think a duet between the two would be a disaster, though. I can't quite think of anyone who has enough presence and energy to stand next to that woman onstage, save maybe Miss Tina. :laugh: But I'd die to see Stevie sing Big Noise From Winnetka, while putting peacock feathers in your mouth and twirling about the stage. :laugh:


I still would like to see them performing together (maybe to a certain benefit show?:D), even more now knowing they're friends. It could be fun!

Anyway, Bette Midler should receive much more credit also as actress. She was perfect in "The Rose" (Sally Field was great in Norma Rae, but that Oscar was hers)and she is probably my favorite living comedian: in Scenes from the Mall she even overshadowed Woody Allen. :nod:

Romy

[Serrart]

yeah. But good movies are "bombs" sometimes. Just like chubby people are sometimes attractive. Anyway, I really enjoyed it, so that's good. Besides, it sounds like it probably scraped even, just. :) :rolleyes:

I'm not a fan of The Saint at all :sorry:, but last year Val Kilmer really surprised me with his performance in Wonderland. He's becoming a much more interesting and nuanced actor, IMO.

Romy

[dissention]

Anyway, Bette Midler should reserve much more credit also as actress; she was perfect in "The Rose" (Sally Field was great in Norma Rae, but that Oscar was hers)and she is probably my favorite living comedian: in Scenes from the Mall she even overshadowed Woody Allen. :nod:

Romy

Sally Field didn't deserve that Oscar, plain and simple; Bette did. She should have won the damned thing just for the scene in the phone booth alone. But what made the performance even more impressive was the fact that it was her first role EVER. She blew everyone away. And those concert scenes, my word, that is how a rock concert should be captured on film. I thought she was just as good in For the Boys, she was robbed again.

Not a lot of people like Scenes From A Mall, I'm surprised that you do. :thumbsup: There are so many scenes in that one that have me on the floor that I coudn't begin to count them. I think it's one of the more original comedies ever made.

And I simply can't watch those 80s comedies of hers and not laugh, they were all great. Ruthless People still makes me laugh HYSTERICALLY after almost twenty years. Have you ever seen Divine Madness? That one epitomizes Bette. She had pneumonia during filming, yet she still put every other performer to shame.

I could go on and on, I'm a big fan.

[dissention]

I'm not a fan of The Saint at all :sorry:, but last year Val Kilmer really surprised me with his performance in Wonderland. He's becoming a much more interesting and nuanced actor, IMO.

Romy

I thought Wonderland was all about Lisa Kudrow. :nod: To me, Kilmer seemed very conscious of what he was doing, nothing seemed real. Too rehearsed, IMO.

Did you see it on DVD? I couldn't believe that they put the actual police video of the crime scene on there. What sick schmuck would actually watch it? :laugh: I started watching the documentary that came with it on the actual Holmes, but it was too much of a whitewash for me.

[Serrart]

Sally Field didn't deserve that Oscar, plain and simple; Bette did. She should have won the damned thing just for the scene in the phone booth alone. But what made the performance even more impressive was the fact that it was her first role EVER. She blew everyone away. And those concert scenes, my word, that is how a rock concert should be captured on film. I thought she was just as good in For the Boys, she was robbed again.
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I liked her a lot in For The Boys but James Caan should have been kicked out of the movie. I can't say I would have preferred Bette instead of Jodie Foster, but it was great to see her at the Oscar night seated just behind Anthony Hopkins. I knew it was a good sign! :D.

Not a lot of people like Scenes From A Mall, I'm surprised that you do. There are so many scenes in that one that have me on the floor that I coudn't begin to count them. I think it's one of the more original comedies ever made.

Why many people don't like it? I think it's hilarious, who doesn't want to knock out a mime, once in a while ;)? And I loved that during one of the couple's crisis they go to see Salaam Bombay!, it was a very nice and original touch.

Romy

[dissention]

Why many people don't like it? I think it's hilarious, who doesn't want to knock out a mime, once in a while ;)? And I loved that during one of the couple's crisis they go to see Salaam Bombay!, it was a very nice and original touch.

Most people I've spoken to think it's stiff, boring, and just plain dull. Obviously, I don't hold that opinion. :laugh: It's the movie that actually made Pauline Kael retire. She once said that after years of seeing and reviewing films, she saw Scenes From A Mall and finally just got fed up with seeing good actors (she was a big Bette fan, but hated Allen after Stardust Memories) star in bad movies. She said that there was nothing new she could add in her reviews, that it all became repetitive. So, she threw in the towel. The movie is an acquired taste, especially if you don't like Mazursky's brand of humour, or Allen's...or Bette's.

[Serrart]

I thought Wonderland was all about Lisa Kudrow. :nod: To me, Kilmer seemed very conscious of what he was doing, nothing seemed real. Too rehearsed, IMO.

Lisa Kudrow is a truly gifted actress, IMO, and she's another one stolen of an Oscar for her performance in The Opposite Of Sex. Val Kilmer is always very conscious but in Wonderland, with such a wasted character, that type of control was useful, IMO.

Did you see it on DVD? I couldn't believe that they put the actual police video of the crime scene on there. What sick schmuck would actually watch it? :laugh: I started watching the documentary that came with it on the actual Holmes, but it was too much of a whitewash for me.

I haven't seen the DVD, and now I'm not planning to. ;)

Romy

[dissention]

Lisa Kudrow is a truly gifted actress, IMO, and she's another one stolen of an Oscar for her performance in The Opposite Of Sex. Val Kilmer is always very conscious but in Wonderland, with such a wasted character, that type of control was useful, IMO.

The Opposite of Sex is hysterical.

"Vagina, vagina, vagina!! Doesn't that word do anything for you?"
"I don't think it does anything for anyone, it's too clinical."

:laugh:

[Serrart]

Most people I've spoken to think it's stiff, boring, and just plain dull. Obviously, I don't hold that opinion. :laugh: It's the movie that actually made Pauline Kael retire. She once said that after years of seeing and reviewing films, she saw Scenes From A Mall and finally just got fed up with seeing good actors (she was a big Bette fan, but hated Allen after Stardust Memories) star in bad movies. She said that there was nothing new she could add in her reviews, that it all became repetitive. So, she threw in the towel. The movie is an acquired taste, especially if you don't like Mazursky's brand of humour, or Allen's...or Bette's.

Urrah for Scenes From The Mall, if it caused Pauline Kael's retirement ;) . She had the sadistic pleasure to trash a lot of movies I loved.

Romy

[dissention]

Urrah for Scenes From The Mall, if it caused Pauline Kael's retirement ;) . She had the sadistic pleasure to trash a lot of movies I loved.

Romy

I loved Kael, regardless if I agreed with her in her reviews. :laugh: :lol:

No one could ever match her reviews and no one, in my opinion, ever will. She was brilliant. Some of the things she wrote were so vicious but so witty and true.

[Serrart]

I loved Kael, regardless if I agreed with her in her reviews. :laugh: :lol:

No one could ever match her reviews and no one, in my opinion, ever will. She was brilliant. Some of the things she wrote were so vicious but so witty and true.

Yeah, I know, she was definitely the best, who discovered and launched the career of all the New Hollywood Gods ... but sometimes she was so damn harsh that made me want to close her in a room to watch her beloved The Sound Of Music again and again. :p

Romy

[David]

No one could ever match her reviews and no one, in my opinion, ever will. She was brilliant. Some of the things she wrote were so vicious but so witty and true.Real criticism is a vicious & witty endeavor.

Something stony & static set in with Kael round about 1978. She's peppery & pugnacious from her '65 book through, say, "Reeling" & even parts of "When the Lights Go Down." But after that, she recycles her tone & stance until you're not sure whether you're reading the real Kael or a female impersonator magpie of Kael.

But those were the glory years of American movie criticism: the '60s & early '70s, when Dwight Macdonald & Stanley Kauffmann & Kael & John Simon & others had most of us running to read the reviews without even bothering to see the movies.

I've got a CD of Kael, Simon & Macdonald discussing films & directors in a panel format in San Francisco in 1965. What a treat it is to hear these three swapping quips & sly insults for the audience!

I have 18,000 books of movie criticism & steal from them often.

[David]

It's the movie that actually made Pauline Kael retire. She once said that after years of seeing and reviewing films, she saw Scenes From A Mall and finally just got fed up with seeing good actors (she was a big Bette fan, but hated Allen after Stardust Memories) star in bad movies. She said that there was nothing new she could add in her reviews, that it all became repetitive. So, she threw in the towel.Her decision to retire was a combination of that & her Parkinson's, which made it more & more difficult to get into the city to see movies.

But surely you are exaggerating to say that Kael hated Woody Allen after "Stardust Memories." She loved & lauded several Woody Allen movies after "Stardust": "The Purple Rose of Cairo," "Zelig," "Manhattan Murder Mystery," some of "Husbands & Wives."

[dissention]

But surely you are exaggerating to say that Kael hated Woody Allen after "Stardust Memories." She loved & lauded several Woody Allen movies after "Stardust": "The Purple Rose of Cairo," "Zelig," "Manhattan Murder Mystery," some of "Husbands & Wives."

It's no secret that he positively loathed her after the Stardust Memories (and it was awful) debacle. Regardless if she heaped a fair amount of praise on his other films, she never failed to mention Stardust Memories or the fact that he'd lost his magic; it may have been subtle, but her reviews of his films dripped with disgust when it came to Allen. She wasn't so subtle when it came to her disdain for him personally. Kael led the attacks.

[gldstwmn]

But you have a thing for bloated old fools like Val Kilmer, so... :laugh: :xoxo:

Now, a little water and Altoids diet wouldn't hurt Val. :laugh:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Yes, they are definitely friends. I was at the "Kiss My Brass" show at America West Arena last night and I saw Stevie. Bette gave her a big ups, and she said how much she loves Stevie. Bette always gives 110% but last night she went the extra 200% because Stevie was in da house. No doubt about it. It was the best show I've ever seen. Sorry, Stevie.

:blob1:

Ahhh very cool...thanks for sharing :thumbsup:

[sparky]

He sabotaged his own career with his diva behavior and ****ty attitude.

Indeed he did. I have a friend who worked on the Batman movie with him who says he would rather change careers than ever work with Kilmer again. BUT, I worked with him on a film awhile back and thought and he was fairly nice. Absolutely NUTS, and definitely a showboat, but nice enough.

[sparky]

But I'm partial to I Think It's Going To Rain Today.

I love that song. She is going to be performing in So Cal soon, and I may even venture behind the Orange Curtain to see her.

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:thumbsup: I so can't picture Stevie at a Bette concert. She must have blushed at the filthy jokes. :laugh:

What were your favorite songs from last night? The Clooney ones are spectacular. :nod: But I'm partial to I Think It's Going To Rain Today...glad she pulled out Midnight In Memphis again.

Yeah, she did those. The Rosemary Clooney tribute is superb. I didn't mind her not doing a lot of her own standards, but I was disappointed she dropped Stay With Me. It's my favorite.

As far as Stevie blushing at the jokes, I don't think she blushed when Bette looked right where she was sitting and said "Before we get into the serious stuff, if any of you have a dried up 30 year old doob at the bottom of your purse, now's the time to fire it up." :laugh:

[amber]

"Before we get into the serious stuff, if any of you have a dried up 30 year old doob at the bottom of your purse, now's the time to fire it up." :laugh:
:laugh: :lol: Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!!! Excellent!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Yeah, she did those. The Rosemary Clooney tribute is superb. I didn't mind her not doing a lot of her own standards, but I was disappointed she dropped Stay With Me. It's my favorite.

As far as Stevie blushing at the jokes, I don't think she blushed when Bette looked right where she was sitting and said "Before we get into the serious stuff, if any of you have a dried up 30 year old doob at the bottom of your purse, now's the time to fire it up." :laugh:

That's SO great :lol: I love it

[Serrart]

Yeah, she did those. The Rosemary Clooney tribute is superb. I didn't mind her not doing a lot of her own standards, but I was disappointed she dropped Stay With Me. It's my favorite.

As far as Stevie blushing at the jokes, I don't think she blushed when Bette looked right where she was sitting and said "Before we get into the serious stuff, if any of you have a dried up 30 year old doob at the bottom of your purse, now's the time to fire it up." :laugh:


:laugh: Gotta love Bette. It must have been a fantastic concert. :thumbsup:

Romy

[glitter_fades]

That's SO great :lol: I love it

I hit the floor and couldn't see her reaction, but I'd venture a guess Stevie was right down there with me. Hilarious! :lol:

.

[dissention]

Yeah, she did those. The Rosemary Clooney tribute is superb. I didn't mind her not doing a lot of her own standards, but I was disappointed she dropped Stay With Me. It's my favorite.

As far as Stevie blushing at the jokes, I don't think she blushed when Bette looked right where she was sitting and said "Before we get into the serious stuff, if any of you have a dried up 30 year old doob at the bottom of your purse, now's the time to fire it up." :laugh:

:laugh: She said the same thing at one of my shows, only she looked right at a group of old ladies when she said it. :lol:

I love Stay With Me. The ones from Divine Madness and Art or Bust are my faves. I can imagine her dropping it, though, that's a really intense song. I wish she'd haul out and do the E Street Shuffle/Summertime/Leader of the Pack medley again. I'd give my left nut to hear it again. :laugh:

[dissention]

I love that song. She is going to be performing in So Cal soon, and I may even venture behind the Orange Curtain to see her.

Oh, it's worth it. Her current show is the biggest and loudest one EVER. She'll have you tired at the end of her three hours onstage. She'll have you in the palm of her hand when she enters the stage from the rafters on a carousel horse. :laugh:

[glitter_fades]

She always has a line like that in her shows. I saw this tour back in February and she told someone at that show to light her a doob. :laugh:

I still die every time I hear about Soph and Ernie. I've heard it so many times but it always kills me.

Ernie: don't ya know...Soph if you learned how to cook we could fire the housekeeper.

Soph: You know, Ernie, if you learned how to f**k we could fire the chauffeur. (rim shot!) :lol:

[dissention]

She always has a line like that in her shows. I saw this tour back in February and she told someone at that show to light her a doob. :laugh:

I still die every time I hear about Soph and Ernie. I've heard it so many times but it always kills me.

Ernie: don't ya know...Soph if you learned how to cook we could fire the housekeeper.

Soph: You know, Ernie, if you learned how to f**k we could fire the chauffeur. (rim shot!) :lol:

That's one of my favorites, too. :laugh: Wish she'd bring back the pink taco joke, though. :eek: :laugh: My fave Sophie joke is the one where she's at the supermarket:

"I was at the market the other day and was feeling quite, quite horny. I did my shopping, checked myself out and then looked to find a cute, suitable looking bagboy to help me out to my car. When we finally got out there, I couldn't control myself or my libido any longer and I blurted out 'Son, I've got an itchy booty. Would you mind helping me out?' The chap looked at my groceries, then he looked at me, then he said 'Sorry, lady, I don't know one Japanese car from the next.'"

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Another good one is the one where Ernie's masturbating in the TV room before they get married. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: I'd like to see Stevie's take of Otto Titsling! :lol:

LMAO :laugh: :laugh:

[TamiP9981]

Hey, i don't know how much blushing Stevie would do over a dirty joke, i'm sure she tells a few herself.

[dissention]

Hey, i don't know how much blushing Stevie would do over a dirty joke, i'm sure she tells a few herself.

Sorry, I so cannot picture her at a Bette concert. This is the woman who refused to sing on Come because it was too dirty. :laugh:

[LilyRose]

Sorry, I so cannot picture her at a Bette concert. This is the woman who refused to sing on Come because it was too dirty. :laugh:

Or so she says. I personally think she didn't want to sing on "Come" because she thought it was about her.

Maybe she likes to hear/watch the dirty jokes, but she doesn't want to actually be an interactive part of them.

I can't wait to see Bette this Sat! :blob2: This will be my first time seeing her.

Susie

[dissention]

Or so she says. I personally think she didn't want to sing on "Come" because she thought it was about her.

Maybe she likes to hear/watch the dirty jokes, but she doesn't want to actually be an interactive part of them.

I can't wait to see Bette this Sat! :blob2: This will be my first time seeing her.

Susie

It's rather obvious that the song isn't about her.

Have fun on Saturday, you'll love it. :thumbsup:

[amber]

Or so she says. I personally think she didn't want to sing on "Come" because she thought it was about her.

Maybe she likes to hear/watch the dirty jokes, but she doesn't want to actually be an interactive part of them.

I can't wait to see Bette this Sat! :blob2: This will be my first time seeing her.

Susie
Where's she at?

[dissention]

Where's she at?

Beats me, but I know she was at my bank robbing my bank account quite a few times over the course of the year. :laugh: Altogether, I paid just under a grand to see her three times. :eek:

[LilyRose]

Where's she at?

HP in San Jose. I just checked ticketmaster...there are still decent tickets left.

Susie

[Johnny Stew]

I personally think she didn't want to sing on "Come" because she thought it was about her.

I can't remember which interview, but Lindsey said as much... that Stevie was uncomfortable singing on "Come," because she feared people would think it was about her.

He also said (possibly in a separate interview) that she additionally had reservations about it being too blatantly sexual.

But I don't believe the latter feeling precludes Stevie from listening to someone tell dirty jokes, or from her telling them in the company of friends. One can believe that certain behaviour in certain situations is improper, without being a prude. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing situation.

I know personally that I can tell some filthy jokes with the best of them, but that I also feel there's a time and place for everything. Bawdiness tempered by decorum.

[strandinthewind]

On Nancy's board - someone is reporting that Stevie was at Bette's concert in Phoenix. :cool:

[dissention]

Bawdiness tempered by decorum.

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. :laugh:

[dissention]

On Nancy's board - someone is reporting that Stevie was at Bette's concert in Phoenix. :cool:

Refer to the many posts by glitter_fades in this very thread, dear. :xoxo:

[strandinthewind]

oops - must have missed them!!!! I though I read it all - but me culpa!!!! :woohoo:

[amber]

HP in San Jose. I just checked ticketmaster...there are still decent tickets left.

Susie
thanks. :wavey:

[sparky]

I know personally that I can tell some filthy jokes with the best of them, but that I also feel there's a time and place for everything. Bawdiness tempered by decorum.

Tough line to tow, but much of it is common sense. You wouldn't want to sing "Otto Titsling" at a dinner with the Queen Mum. Unless, of course, the old broad was really crocked and sitting next to Dame Edna.
:eek:

I tend to just speak my mind, even though my Momma taught me manners and I know when I can and cannot be comfortable being my potty mouthed self.
For a while, after college p.c. indoctrination, I was very self editing. Those days are so over. F that ! People's open wounds are their own unfinished business. If someone hasn't the smarts to tell a joke from a slur, there are therapists littering the countryside.

[Johnny Stew]

That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. :laugh:

Every person on this Earth is a walking contradiction... it's one of the things that makes us all so fascinating! :)

My friends always tell me they love my racy sense of humour, etc.... while other people seem to think I'm solely the prim and proper librarian type.
For me, it's just a matter of knowing when something is proper and when it isn't.

"No one falls into a simple set of labels." ;)

[dissention]

Every person on this Earth is a walking contradiction... it's one of the things that makes us all so fascinating! :)

My friends always tell me they love my racy sense of humour, etc.... while other people seem to think I'm solely the prim and proper librarian type.
For me, it's just a matter of knowing when something is proper and when it isn't.

"No one falls into a simple set of labels." ;)

It's nothing to do with people, it's to do with those two terms contradicting each other. Vulgarity tempered by propriety? Yup, an oxymoron. :laugh:

It's common sense when it comes to telling jokes and being humorous, IMO. I wouldn't tell one of my vile jokes to the pharmacist as I'm getting my prescription filled, nor would I tell nasty Dick and Jane jokes at a funeral. I wouldn't go to the proctologist's office and tell a penis joke. I've got a filthy sense of humour and could put a sailor to shame with my mouth, but common sense dictates when to put both to use. Everyone has it, some just learn it sooner than later.

[dissention]

Tough line to tow, but much of it is common sense. You wouldn't want to sing "Otto Titsling" at a dinner with the Queen Mum. Unless, of course, the old broad was really crocked and sitting next to Dame Edna.
:eek:

:laugh:

I'd go the extra mile and snap the Queen Mum's boulder holder just as I'm finishing the song at a frenetic pace and asking "Do you buy a titsling or do you buy a brazziere?"

[Johnny Stew]

I tend to just speak my mind, even though my Momma taught me manners and I know when I can and cannot be comfortable being my potty mouthed self.
For a while, after college p.c. indoctrination, I was very self editing. Those days are so over. F that ! People's open wounds are their own unfinished business. If someone hasn't the smarts to tell a joke from a slur, there are therapists littering the countryside.

I believe in speaking your mind, but I also believe there's a way to do it and a way not to do it.
I guess even when I'm "telling it like it is," I prefer to be tactful and considerate.

And not that you're saying this is the case, but I don't view being considerate of others as being untrue to yourself. If I can't be funny without being hurtful, then something's wrong.
I've never understood those who feel something's only funny if you've managed to upset someone... just seems to me like they lack to ability to be genuinely funny, and instead have to settle for appealing to the lowest common denominator. :shrug:

(I get my best laughs out of making fun of myself... which always means I have an endless amount of material and no one gets hurt! :laugh: )

[Johnny Stew]

It's nothing to do with people, it's to do with those two terms contradicting each other. Vulgarity tempered by propriety? Yup, an oxymoron. :laugh:

Well, of course it is! :laugh:
But we're all walking oxymorons (though some are just morons)... and that was the point I was making. :)

Case in point... you have a vulgar sense of humour, but refrain from being vulgar around certain people.
You have the ability to be vulgar, but the wherewithal to know when it's improper... so the vulgarity is therefore tempered by propriety.

Yes, the phrase itself, on paper, is an oxymoron... but it's still fitting of the behaviour. :nod: :)

[joe68]

Johnny Stew, I bet you're damn cute, arent you!!! I just rented "Get Real" and "Latter Days" this weekend and now I'm feeling a wee bit lonely, so to speak...

Oh well, back to the discussion at hand...

PS You should also put a picture of yourself on your website!

[Johnny Stew]

Johnny Stew, I bet you're damn cute, arent you!!! I just rented "Get Real" and "Latter Days" this weekend and now I'm feeling a wee bit lonely, so to speak...

Oh well, back to the discussion at hand...

PS You should also put a picture of yourself on your website!

Oh my! :o

Well, I don't think I'm ugly, but I don't know about "damn cute."
Hopefully my looks have never caused anyone to feel naseous though!

Maybe I'll post a pic one of these days... a few Ledgies have already seen my mug, and lived to tell the tale, so I guess it would be ok. ;)

('Get Real' was a great movie, though definitely bittersweet. I haven't gotten around to seeing 'Latter Days' yet. 'Beautiful Thing' remains my favorite "gay-themed" movie... but, boy, that one will sure make you feel wistful!)

[MirrorInTheSky]

I just rented "Get Real" and "Latter Days" this weekend and now I'm feeling a wee bit lonely, so to speak...



Like, gag me with a spoon. I hate those indie gay flicks that make you feel subhuman if you can't find a boyfriend. *ACK*

[joe68]

Oh, come on...It was snowing, it was cold, and those movies were perfect for when you just want to curl up on the couch with a blanket and cry...

Good grief! It's the only gay thing I like to do...cut me some slack!!!! :)

And Johnny Stew...
How old are you? You have to show everyone your mug again....and...Latter Dyas is cool, you'll like it. "Beautiful Thing" was ok, but to be honest (and somewhat of an ass) those two guys were really fugly! Sorry!

(Please don't let that last comment dissuade you from emailing me your pic!)

[joe68]

And I know this topic is a little off the mark, but the title of the thread is "Stevie $ Bette" so I think it's rather justified! :)

[dissention]

Like, gag me with a spoon. I hate those indie gay flicks that make you feel subhuman if you can't find a boyfriend. *ACK*

Did you ever see Better Than Chocolate? Can we say *hysterical*? :laugh:

[sparky]

Like, gag me with a spoon. I hate those indie gay flicks that make you feel subhuman if you can't find a boyfriend. *ACK*

Umm...that would be the ENTIRE CULTURE making people feel subhuman if they are not mated off. And we wonder why the divorce rate is through the roof. People get married to avoid being alone...and do it way before they are developed, dependable, self reliant human beings with something more to offer than a warm body and an unformed psyche.
If one cannot stand alone and be happy, confident, and content, they are in no way suited to pair up and offer another anything other than heartache.
God Bless America, right ?

:laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Like, gag me with a spoon. I hate those indie gay flicks....

As opposed to the mainstream gay flicks? ;) :laugh:

I know what you mean though... movies, commercials, television shows, greeting cards, everything seems designed to make those of us who are not coupled feel as if we're somehow defective.

I have to say though, and I hope I'm not ruining the ending for anyone by posting this, but the "hero" in 'Get Real' does not keep his man. Instead, he gains personal insight, and the audience is left with the impression that his future relationships will have a more stable foundation than his first. And, even more importantly, that he's going to be all right even if he doesn't find a mate.

[Johnny Stew]

And Johnny Stew...
How old are you? You have to show everyone your mug again....and...Latter Dyas is cool, you'll like it. "Beautiful Thing" was ok, but to be honest (and somewhat of an ass) those two guys were really fugly! Sorry!

(Please don't let that last comment dissuade you from emailing me your pic!)

Well, I'm 32... a little long-in-the-tooth in our youth obssessed community. :laugh:

And you thought Jamie and Ste were fugly? See, I thought they were both cute boys. Jailbait, but cute. :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Umm...that would be the ENTIRE CULTURE making people feel subhuman if they are not mated off. And we wonder why the divorce rate is through the roof. People get married to avoid being alone...and do it way before they are developed, dependable, self reliant human beings with something more to offer than a warm body and an unformed psyche.
If one cannot stand alone and be happy, confident, and content, they are in no way suited to pair up and offer another anything other than heartache.
God Bless America, right ?

You're completely right. That's the way I feel about it, too.

It's not that I hate being single, and I'm certainly not interested in pairing off simply because society says I should, it's just that I think I have a lot to offer someone, in a very substantive way. (Sorry if that sounds immodest.)

So, yeah, I'd like a mate... but gone are the days when I allowed others to make me feel like some sort of misfit because I was single.

[amber]

And you thought Jamie and Ste were fugly? See, I thought they were both cute boys. Jailbait, but cute. :laugh:
mmmm, jailbait...*drool* JK :laugh:
And, i don't feel bad (in society's terms) that i'm not mated up, but i certainly do feel deprived :) ;)

[Johnny Stew]

mmmm, jailbait...*drool* JK :laugh:
And, i don't feel bad (in society's terms) that i'm not mated up, but i certainly do feel deprived :) ;)

Drooling over jailbait... shame on you. :p
You're deprived and depraved! ;) :xoxo:

[amber]

Drooling over jailbait... shame on you. :p
You're deprived and depraved! ;) :xoxo:
Hey, you don't even know me! :laugh: Sorry. I dated someone 9 years younger once, but he was super different mature :D Best.Boyfriend.Ever.
too bad he had to go off to college... :laugh: :p Besides, he picked me up! Dammit! :lol:

[Johnny Stew]

Hey, you don't even know me! :laugh: Sorry. I dated someone 9 years younger once, but he was super different mature :D Best.Boyfriend.Ever.
too bad he had to go off to college... :laugh: :p Besides, he picked me up! Dammit! :lol:

I'm only teasing, sweetie. :xoxo:
Plus, I had a pretty terrific relationship with someone who's ten years younger than me... so I have no room to talk! :laugh:

If you purposely and exclusively chase after guys or girls who are considerably younger than you, then it's kind of sad... but I honestly don't see anything wrong with dating someone younger than you, if you happen to click.

I think one of the biggest obstacles when it comes to relationships, is finding someone who's on the same page as you.
I've talked to guys who are ten years older than me, who I don't think ever want to "settle down," and I've talked with guys ten years younger than me who are beyond ready for a life-long commitment. Age is irrelevant in those matters.

I'm looking for someone with whom I can have a balanced relationship, where we're both equals and we're both on the same page. If he's my age or older, fine. If he's younger than me, fine.
I mean, I admit I don't necessarily want to date someone who's as old as my father (ooh, I'm going to get slammed for being shallow on that one!), and I sure don't want to date someone who's underage (I'm too pretty for prison! :laugh: ;) )... but anyone 18 or over, though younger than 45, is in the running. :laugh:

[amber]

I'm only teasing, sweetie. :xoxo:
Plus, I had a pretty terrific relationship with someone who's ten years younger than me... so I have no room to talk! :laugh:

If you purposely and exclusively chase after guys or girls who are considerably younger than you, then it's kind of sad... but I honestly don't see anything wrong with dating someone younger than you, if you happen to click.

I think one of the biggest obstacles when it comes to relationships, is finding someone who's on the same page as you.
I've talked to guys who are ten years older than me, who I don't think ever want to "settle down," and I've talked with guys ten years younger than me who are beyond ready for a life-long commitment. Age is irrelevant in those matters.

I'm looking for someone with whom I can have a balanced relationship, where we're both equals and we're both on the same page. If he's my age or older, fine. If he's younger than me, fine.
I mean, I admit I don't necessarily want to date someone who's as old as my father (ooh, I'm going to get slammed for being shallow on that one!), and I sure don't want to date someone who's underage (I'm too pretty for prison! :laugh: ;) )... but anyone 18 or over, though younger than 45, is in the running. :laugh:
good points. Actually, in theory, i like someone older. The main problem with many guys my age is....they love grunge... :distress: :laugh:
I know you were kidding... :)
:xoxo:

[joe68]

I'm 36, hence Joe68 (in case I was fooling anyone) so 32 is not so bad. The only thing that cheers me up is that I look 27, so cool for me!!! :) I soooo want to be David Bowie when I grow up.

Has anyone seen Gypsy 83 as yet? The big gay video store in Boystown doesnt even have it! :(

I do karaoke at all the clubs in Chicago and everyone says I sound like Stevie Nicks, and I say, well, yeah, I've only been listening to her for 25 years, I don't know how else to sound. I've discovered this whole karaoke thing is quite a cult. Too bad most of the guys like to sing like Celine Dion...

Johnny Stew, I'm still waiting for that picture:
[email protected]

[strandinthewind]

I'm 36, hence Joe68 (in case I was fooling anyone) so 32 is not so bad. The only thing that cheers me up is that I look 27, so cool for me!!! :) I soooo want to be David Bowie when I grow up.

Has anyone seen Gypsy 83 as yet? The big gay video store in Boystown doesnt even have it! :(

I do karaoke at all the clubs in Chicago and everyone says I sound like Stevie Nicks, and I say, well, yeah, I've only been listening to her for 25 years, I don't know how else to sound. I've discovered this whole karaoke thing is quite a cult. Too bad most of the guys like to sing like Celine Dion...

Johnny Stew, I'm still waiting for that picture:
[email protected]

Yea - karaoke people have been known to go from one karaoke bar to another - it is kind of alarming in that they seem to live for it. But, to each their own I guess. I like karaoke, but the songs offered are sometimes not the same as the studio versions. They are instead truncated. So, give me a live piano player anyday of the week so I can torture the poor soul :laugh:

[Livia]

Has anyone seen Gypsy 83 as yet? The big gay video store in Boystown doesnt even have it!

I ordered from Amazon, they shipped it on Friday. :thumbsup:

[MirrorInTheSky]

I ordered from Amazon, they shipped it on Friday. :thumbsup:

Does this mean party at Livia's???

[sparky]

I'm looking for someone with whom I can have a balanced relationship, where we're both equals and we're both on the same page. If he's my age or older, fine. If he's younger than me, fine.


That certainly broadens the base of possibilities. Since I have been dating (about 22 is when I got serious enough to call it that) I have never dated anyone under 28. Now, I would never date anyone under 30. Not a CHANCE. Maybe not even under 35. Not because they aren't interesting, or attractive. And, there are always exceptions. Thing is, there is an experience differential. I want to be with someone who knows what they want out their lives, knows where they are going, and has enough experience to be pretty sure about it. Plus, they ought to know themselves. In my experience, few people have a clue until after 30 about most of that stuff.

For example, a lot of people in their 20's will, and should, make radical decisions. It is a time for questioning, experimenting, and growing up. I don't want to get all ga-ga over someone who decides he wants to go live in Europe for a year, or go get a PhD in New York. Then there is the financial disparity thing. Don't get me started on that one !

I thought I knew everything at about 28. Of course. I was smart, outta college, had a great job, yada yada. I knew nothing. But, of course, I didn't realize I knew nothing until a few years later.
:lol:

[Livia]

Does this mean party at Livia's???

I was wondering how long it would take for you to reply! LOL Sure, you're welcome to come over - PM me for directions!

[cliffdweller]

um, he still makes more than you, is famous, and most importantly, is a good actor. it seems his last hit was probably The Saint.

Have you seen Spartan? Chalk that up as another Kilmer "hit," if not box office at least critical hit. He was excellent in that.

[cliffdweller]

I was wondering how long it would take for you to reply! LOL Sure, you're welcome to come over - PM me for directions!

Woo-hoo!! :thumbsup:

Have you gotten it yet?

[Enchanted_Stevi]

That is SO cool that Stevie was there! I was wondering...does anyone have pics of Stevie at the concert?

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

That is SO cool that Stevie was there! I was wondering...does anyone have pics of Stevie at the concert?
Planning on making more banners? :rolleyes:

[Johnny Stew]

Johnny Stew, I'm still waiting for that picture

:o :o

I just posted a pic on the old Photos thread on the Chit-Chat Forum....
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=227247&postcount=111

[MirrorInTheSky]

:o :o

I just posted a pic on the old Photos thread on the Chit-Chat Forum....
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=227247&postcount=111

Handsome devil.

[Enchanted_Stevi]

Planning on making more banners? :rolleyes:

Yes...I am making banners now...if u want me to make u one....I'll be glad o make u one either IM me or E~mail me

[RavenOfRhiannon]

Johnny Stew has always been cute, IMO.

My copy of Gypsy 83 just came in, I'll be posting a review soon.

Latter Days was very good up until the end. (I won't spoil it, but I felt manipulated)

Stevie should record Bette's Shiver Me Timbers...just keeping on topic...

Randy

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Yes...I am making banners now...if u want me to make u one....I'll be glad o make u one either IM me or E~mail me
Did you not see the other thread? You have someone elses banners amongst your own. I take it this was an oversight?

Pip

[dissention]

Stevie should record Bette's Shiver Me Timbers...just keeping on topic...

She can record the Samedi Et Vendredi version, I don't want anyone to even try to attempt covering the Live At Last version. :laugh: That song puts me in tears every time, her delivery is out of this world.

Won't you please call my family
Tell 'em not to cry
My goodbyes are written by the moon in the sky
Saying "Nobody knows me, I got no reason to stay
Shiver me timbers, I'm sailing away"

and then the La-la-la-la-la at the end, ooh it's perfect. Chills, baby, chills!

[Enchanted_Stevi]

Did you not see the other thread? You have someone elses banners amongst your own. I take it this was an oversight?

Pip

what about someone elses banner.....where is it...I did tll some ppl they could use some banners.....please tell me

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

what about someone elses banner.....where is it...I did tll some ppl they could use some banners.....please tell me
Let me make this clearer. You have someone elses banners amongst your own on your site. It is in the other thread.

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=17017

[joe68]

Very cute, Johnny Stew I'm impressed. But now I'm afraid to post mine...
Again, it's cool that the looks match the intellect!

[Enchanted_Stevi]

I don't remeber putting those banners on my site..... :shrug: :(