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tynan88
11-06-2004, 10:53 PM
Can I have some help please...I want to do an analysis on the Say You Will cover for a small school assignment, I know it is based on some Japanese movie, but I can think what, can someone please give me some background information on the story or direct me to some info, because I am pretty sure there is some out there, I just cant remember where.

Cheers,
Tynan
DownOnRodeo
11-07-2004, 04:06 AM
It's based on a Japanese movie?! That's news to me! Sounds interesting...
tynan88
11-07-2004, 05:03 AM
Yes, I found out, it is based on an old Japanese story made in to a film in the sixties called Double-Suicide, looks very interesting, hope to see it one day.

Tynan
Bryan
11-07-2004, 08:04 AM
http://homepage.eircom.net/~bryanmichael/double-suicide-016.jpg http://homepage.eircom.net/~bryanmichael/syw2.JPG

Yep..definitely similar!


-Bryan
jill
11-07-2004, 10:14 AM
I remember a while back, someone saying that the way Stevie and Lindsey are laying down.....and Mick and John are laying down holding hands...that together the 4 of them are forming "SYW" Stevie as the S for "Say" Lindsey is the Y for "You" and Mick and John form the W for "Will"
Maybe we should of asked John in the Q and A...................
Serrart
11-07-2004, 11:06 AM
http://homepage.eircom.net/~bryanmichael/double-suicide-016.jpg http://homepage.eircom.net/~bryanmichael/syw2.JPG

Yep..definitely similar!


I didn't know about that and never seen the movie, but I love the fact the cover is inspired by a Shinoda's film, he is such a visually powerful (and melodramatic) director. Great choice! :thumbsup:

Romy
DeadliestPoison
11-07-2004, 12:51 PM
Weird. I always figured it was a "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" thing. The stuff they're lying on looks like coffin lining or whatever it's called, and they all look sorta dead. At least Stevie. Everyone else sorta ruins it. Eyes open, etc.

Neat!
DeadliestPoison
11-07-2004, 12:53 PM
Also interesting: The Criterion Collection DVD Cover. Notice the similarities in font & color.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000560QE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Les
11-07-2004, 03:21 PM
I believe the cover shoot was done when the album was still going to be a double album, so I ws thinking the "double suicide" was a wry joke about how releasing a double album might be career suicide.
DeadliestPoison
11-07-2004, 04:28 PM
If he has to go, atleast he does so in orgasm inspiring black.
And leather! :D
skcin
11-07-2004, 06:12 PM
Perhaps the suicides are the result of hearing the final versions of Silver Girl and Say You Will.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Paula
DownOnRodeo
11-07-2004, 09:35 PM
I'm sure there's a good chance that Lindsey, with his interest in quality cinema, had seen this film at some point, and mooted the concept to the rest of them.
Nixxxed
11-07-2004, 10:27 PM
Yes, I found out, it is based on an old Japanese story made in to a film in the sixties called Double-Suicide, looks very interesting, hope to see it one day.

Tynan

This is just awesome - thanks for posting. And it's the first I've heard of it - which is very cool considering the album is nearing 2 years old. Makes me look at the album anew, and I can't wait to listen to it again.

They only show the photo shoot in "Destiny Rules", with no discussion of it. Could this have been a Herb Worthington idea, or do we know if it was band member decision?

Was this discussed before and I just missed it? Man, I hate that "out-of-the-Mac-loop" feeling... :D
bikerchic
11-07-2004, 11:31 PM
I believe the cover shoot was done when the album was still going to be a double album, so I ws thinking the "double suicide" was a wry joke about how releasing a double album might be career suicide.
Very good analysis, you guy's are good! :nod:
bikerchic
11-07-2004, 11:34 PM
Was this discussed before and I just missed it? Man, I hate that "out-of-the-Mac-loop" feeling... :D
Welcome to my world! :lol: :lol: :lol:
tynan88
11-08-2004, 01:41 AM
I am glad you like it, i tis the first thing I have posted that has made it over one page, anyway does anyone think maybe SnL see a little bit of themselves in this story...let's just hope they dont end up so tragically.

Tynan
shackin'up
11-08-2004, 04:24 AM
I believe the cover shoot was done when the album was still going to be a double album, so I ws thinking the "double suicide" was a wry joke about how releasing a double album might be career suicide.

Scary, even Lindsey's kind of cynical conceptual thinking crept into your head, Les. So this could be 100% true.
Oh, and thanks for that TOTALLY awesome EOTW-lyricless-screamy-outtake on your awesome site madnessfades.net . That download simply MADE my weekend.

you double-rock!

gerald
kenzo
11-08-2004, 08:38 AM
I'm sure there's a good chance that Lindsey, with his interest in quality cinema, had seen this film at some point, and mooted the concept to the rest of them.

Wow... first time I've seen the word 'mooted' used in a 'net forum, and properly!
Serrart
11-08-2004, 12:09 PM
I'm sure there's a good chance that Lindsey, with his interest in quality cinema, had seen this film at some point, and mooted the concept to the rest of them.

I don't know, if the idea came from him, I find strange Lindsey or Stevie haven't talked about it before. I see it more as an aesthetic and iconic choice suggested by Neal Preston.

Romy