View Full Version : Live in Boston disapointment
jeffs
11-02-2004, 03:38 PM
Saw the Mac 3 times during the last tour and thought they were great, but I left those shows doubting the integrity of some of the music - Lindsey's guitar playing during certain moments where sound continued (not Carlos and Neil) but Lindsey was not playing. Anyway, last nite on VH1 Classic they had a little special with Stevie explaining the history of some songs and other things followed up with clips from Live in Boston (or whatever it is called) and I got to tell you as a die hard fan I am a little bit embarrased by the lack of quality of that production. I am not an expert, I do not know what the heck went wrong with it but quite frankly it sucked, especially using the Dance as a high water mark. Stevie's voice was off, Lindsey seems like he isn't playing the guitar in synch with the sound track - he muffed Big Love at the end, which is not just a Boston problem, but at the shows I went to as well, his voice was all messed up... It was so upsetting that I had to switch to Monday Nite Football. Sorry :sorry:
estranged4life
11-02-2004, 06:05 PM
Saw the Mac 3 times during the last tour and thought they were great, but I left those shows doubting the integrity of some of the music - Lindsey's guitar playing during certain moments where sound continued (not Carlos and Neil) but Lindsey was not playing. Anyway, last nite on VH1 Classic they had a little special with Stevie explaining the history of some songs and other things followed up with clips from Live in Boston (or whatever it is called) and I got to tell you as a die hard fan I am a little bit embarrased by the lack of quality of that production. I am not an expert, I do not know what the heck went wrong with it but quite frankly it sucked, especially using the Dance as a high water mark. Stevie's voice was off, Lindsey seems like he isn't playing the guitar in synch with the sound track - he muffed Big Love at the end, which is not just a Boston problem, but at the shows I went to as well, his voice was all messed up... It was so upsetting that I had to switch to Monday Nite Football. Sorry :sorry:
on DVD (The VH1 Classic show "Headline Act") and I was disappointed at the obvious bad edits that were on the LIB DVD...
I still have only watched it 3 times & I noticed the bad editing the very first time...But like you alot of people noticed the same screwups too.
Brian j.
mylittledemon
11-10-2004, 10:03 PM
The Dance is and was better, I agree.
greatdarkwing
11-10-2004, 10:30 PM
I really dont think anyone questions that The Dance was/will be The Mac's ultimate DVD Concert. It was a moment in time that can never be captured the same way, with the same intensity again. As much as I loved the Say You Will tour, especially the 2004 leg :thumbsup: , you cant really compare the 2. This is a harder, rockier version of The Mac. I happen to love it more without Chrsitine (my personal opinion) but The Dance is made spectacular because of the chemistry that existed in that moment...
~Alex
MacMan
11-10-2004, 11:23 PM
The Dance is made spectacular because of the chemistry that existed in that moment
And what a great way to end an era that sadly we will probably not see again from these guys.
greatdarkwing
11-10-2004, 11:25 PM
And what a great way to end an era that sadly we will probably not see again from these guys.
Exactly.
~Alex
flyfirefly
11-11-2004, 01:58 AM
I'm still upset at the unneccessarily close close-ups of Stevie during what...Dreams? Waaaay too close.
MACFAN
11-11-2004, 02:40 AM
The video does have many editing problems. However, I feel the Stevie close-ups during Goodbye Baby were a very honest and bold move on Stevie's part. She still has those beautiful brown eyes. :nod:
Mageboy25
11-11-2004, 06:48 AM
Im GLAD they did the close ups on Stevie. Its just evidence that she had something done to erase the wrinkles around her eyes. I saw her upclose several times in 2001 and she had major obvios crow feet wrinkles. Now they seem to have disappeared!
bikerchic
11-11-2004, 08:34 AM
The thick pancake make-up on her cheeks is different then the thin "pore revealing" make-up on her nose........very bad. Don't even get me started on the "fuzzy lens" on Stevie for Destiny Rules" dvd!
mylittledemon
11-11-2004, 08:48 AM
ACtually the major complaint I have about the Boston DVD set is that it didnt include the 2nd tour leg songs like "Sara" and "I Know I'm Not Wrong."
MACFAN
11-11-2004, 09:36 AM
The close-ups do show wrinkles around her eyes. It doesnt seem to me there is any evidence of tampering to get rid of the wrinkles.
JamieSPC
11-11-2004, 10:13 AM
I think this DVD is more in the vein of the Mirage tour film... rawer, edgier, less tinkering afterward. Lindsey has been pretty up-front about how much was done to The Dance in post... it was meant to be perfect, and it is. But only because it was heavily produced after the fact. A lot of live recordings are, anyway.
But I remember him saying somewhere (I couldn't find the article) that this was intentionally rawer and more a document of a live band than a studio-polished product. Some have said there are a lot of noticeable overdubs, but they used a lot of recorded vocals in the concert, too... so I think it represents the tour very well.
I am beginning to dig Silver Springs on LIB almost as much as The Dance... as they go along at the end, the tempo speeds up and the song gets more intense... "STILL I AM A FOOL!!!" ... love it!
BTFLCHLD
11-14-2004, 10:55 AM
:chronic:
IMO I am thankful they produced a dvd - closeups, wrinkles, edits or dubs
WelshWitchPMD
11-14-2004, 11:02 AM
I happen to love it more without Chrsitine (my personal opinion) but The Dance is made spectacular because of the chemistry that existed in that moment...
~Alex
I agree 100% with what you said, Alex! ;)
My favorite video is the 1982 Mirage concert. I like that even better then the Dance.
GODDESS6
11-14-2004, 11:46 AM
I agree 100% with what you said, Alex! ;)
My favorite video is the 1982 Mirage concert. I like that even better then the Dance.
that is mt fav also!!!!!!!~ unless it is stevie solo, i can't get enuf of the white wing dove tour video~
blessed be~
goldustboi
11-14-2004, 03:07 PM
Overall The Dance is much much much better than LIB, especially wen u compares songs like GDW, which I can hardly bear to watch on LIB, that shimmying thing she does just before she starts singing really irritates me
flyfirefly
11-15-2004, 02:17 AM
The weirdest difference between The Dance and LIB is Lindsey. Clearly, he lost a lot of weight.
David
11-15-2004, 01:38 PM
The weirdest difference between The Dance and LIB is Lindsey. Clearly, he lost a lot of weight.
Is it any wonder, considering his 150 minutes per night of sweat-drenched aerobics?
He probably burns 1,200 calories a night on tour.
flyfirefly
11-16-2004, 11:09 AM
Is it any wonder, considering his 150 minutes per night of sweat-drenched aerobics?
He probably burns 1,200 calories a night on tour.
While on tour, yes. But there are quite a few years between 1997 and 2003-4 that Lindsey wasn't doing that every night.
dissention
11-16-2004, 11:38 AM
While on tour, yes. But there are quite a few years between 1997 and 2003-4 that Lindsey wasn't doing that every night.
He was a newlywed during those years, after all. ;)
Serrart
11-16-2004, 12:49 PM
:chronic:
IMO I am thankful they produced a dvd - closeups, wrinkles, edits or dubs
ITA, and please FM (and/or Stevie :D ) make another one soon!
Romy
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