The best of the Klonopin years!

[diamondsnake]

If you had to make a "Best of" album from Stevie's Klonopin years what would you include? Let's say this era is from Tango in the Night to Street Angel. I think that is about right.

Here's mine:

1. Affairs of the Heart
2. Seven Wonders
3. Welcome to the Room Sara
4. No Questions Asked
5. Doing the Best that I can
6. Rooms on Fire
7. Ghosts
8. Long Way to Go
9. Freedom
10. Sometimes It's a Bitch
11. Blue Denim
12. Rose Garden
13. Paper Doll

She really made some good songs I think!

[GypsySorcerer]

1) Rooms on Fire
2) Ooh My Love
3) Blue Denim
4) Affairs of the Heart

Seven Wonders is decent, yet annoying. I didn't include it because the song wasn't hers.

That's it. This period was just substandard for her. :sorry:

Okay, I'll add Rose Garden.

[The Tower]

Really, the Klonopin years only consisted of Behind the Mask, Timespace and Street Angel.

Most of the songs from Tango in the Night and The Other Side of the Mirror were written before she was dragged down by Klonopin. The Tango songs were trainwrecks from her coke/booze recovery. The OSOTM songs, for the most part, were probably her only moments of clarity during that time. So, for me, it's hard to clump them all together and pull out a top ten list.

[amber]

That's it. This period was just substandard for her. :sorry:

Okay, I'll add Rose Garden.
I hope you're adding Rose Garden to the substandard category, cause that song blows chunks. And i like Street Angel. :wavey:

[dissention]

Really, the Klonopin years only consisted of Behind the Mask, Timespace and Street Angel.

Most of the songs from Tango in the Night and The Other Side of the Mirror were written before she was dragged down by Klonopin. The Tango songs were trainwrecks from her coke/booze recovery. The OSOTM songs, for the most part, were probably her only moments of clarity during that time. So, for me, it's hard to clump them all together and pull out a top ten list.

:nod: I'm not going to include the Mirror album in my list because she wasn't suffering from Klonopin too bad at that time. And there are only two songs that I really can't stand on that album, Ghosts and Two Kinds of Love.

1. Greta
2. Street Angel
3. Just Like A Woman
4. Affairs of the Heart

That's it.

[GypsySorcerer]

I hope you're adding Rose Garden to the substandard category, cause that song blows chunks. And i like Street Angel. :wavey:

And I like Rose Garden. :p

[dissention]

And I like Rose Garden. :p

Then you're smoking some funny cigarettes. :p

[GypsySorcerer]

Then you're smoking some funny cigarettes. :p

And I was going to let the fact you like "Street Angel" go. :rolleyes: :lol:

[amber]

Then you're smoking some funny cigarettes. :p
Yeah, didn't you read the "Songs You Are Listening to Now May Sound Better Than They Are" warning label on those things, gypsysorcerer??? :D
Amber

[amber]

And I was going to let the fact you like "Street Angel" go. :rolleyes: :lol:
The album? clearly you like it to, only you like the song from the other side of the tracks then where i come from... :laugh: My faves are Kick It, Blue Denim, Greta, Just Like a Woman, Love is Like a Rivah is ok, and yes, Street Angel is ok.
It's just mellow stevie. I've had it for 8 years or so, and i got OSOTM about a month ago - i still, overall, like Street Angel better...maybe someday love will change my mind, but... :shrug:

[GypsySorcerer]

The album? clearly you like it to, only you like the song from the other side of the tracks then where i come from... :laugh: My faves are Kick It, Blue Denim, Greta, Just Like a Woman, Love is Like a Rivah is ok, and yes, Street Angel is ok.
It's just mellow stevie. I've had it for 8 years or so, and i got OSOTM about a month ago - i still, overall, like Street Angel better...maybe someday love will change my mind, but... :shrug:

I was referring to the song Street Angel. ;)

I'm not that big on OSOTM, either. Actually, SA is not my least favorite Stevie album. It's RAL. :eek:

[dissention]

Actually, SA is not my least favorite Stevie album. It's RAL. :eek:

Those two albums are the pits.

[Serrart]

1. Greta
2. No Questions Asked (BTM demos)
3. Inspiration
4. Blue Denim
5. Just Like a Woman
6. Affairs Of The Heart
7. Street Angel

Romy

[amber]

1. Greta
2. No Questions Asked (BTM demos)
3. Inspiration
4. Blue Denim
5. Just Like a Woman
6. Affairs Of The Heart
7. Street Angel

Romy
Ah, thank you! you made me remember that i like no questions asked (the regular one) but rarely listen to it...that's the one that has "well it's, hard to be civil and it's real hard to be nice"?

[Serrart]

Ah, thank you! you made me remember that i like no questions asked (the regular one) but rarely listen to it...that's the one that has "well it's, hard to be civil and it's real hard to be nice"?

Yes :thumbsup:. Great song, but the regular version is a bit flat IMO. I prefer her demo#2 and those from BTM because she risked there a bit more.

Romy

[ontheEdgeof17]

Ah, thank you! you made me remember that i like no questions asked (the regular one) but rarely listen to it...that's the one that has "well it's, hard to be civil and it's real hard to be nice"?


:nod: Correct-o-mondo.


-Curtis

[Hawkeye]

1. Long Way To Go
2. Ghosts
3. Doing the Best I Can
4. Juliet
5. Blue Denim
6. Street Angel
7. Docklands
6. Destiny
7. Love is Like a River
8. Just Like A Woman
9. Kick It
10. Jane
11. No Questions Asked (LOVE this song Dissention :laugh:

[amber]

1. Long Way To Go
2. Ghosts
3. Doing the Best I Can
4. Juliet
5. Blue Denim
6. Street Angel
7. Docklands
6. Destiny
7. Love is Like a River
8. Just Like A Woman
9. Kick It
10. Jane
11. No Questions Asked (LOVE this song Dissention :laugh:
ah, a list after my own heart, save the exlusion of Cry Wolf!

[diamondsnake]

I was referring to the song Street Angel. ;)

I'm not that big on OSOTM, either. Actually, SA is not my least favorite Stevie album. It's RAL. :eek:
I think OSOTM is Stevie's best album. I know I am in the minority but it is just so magical and intense and still fun... I don't know. I think it rocks and is different then anything else she has ever done.

[diamondsnake]

1. Long Way To Go
2. Ghosts
3. Doing the Best I Can
4. Juliet
5. Blue Denim
6. Street Angel
7. Docklands
6. Destiny
7. Love is Like a River
8. Just Like A Woman
9. Kick It
10. Jane
11. No Questions Asked (LOVE this song Dissention :laugh:
Destiny? Seriously? I have always found this song so boring.

[Hawkeye]

I thin Destiny is amazing and like it WAY more then it's cousin, Enchanted. Now Affairs of the Heart is BORING and just plain sucks :nod: :laugh:

[amber]

I thin Destiny is amazing and like it WAY more then it's cousin, Enchanted. Now Affairs of the Heart is BORING and just plain sucks :nod: :laugh:
Hmmnnn. I think all those suck...

[GypsySorcerer]

I think OSOTM is Stevie's best album. I know I am in the minority but it is just so magical and intense and still fun... I don't know. I think it rocks and is different then anything else she has ever done.

Well, that's the beauty of Stevie. Something for everyone. :)

[seeker007nmss]

Everytime I see the word Klonopin, I think of the time on Ebay when someone obviously went through Stevie's garbage and was selling an empty prescription bottle. I forget what it went for, but I just shook my head.....

[diamondsnake]

Everytime I see the word Klonopin, I think of the time on Ebay when someone obviously went through Stevie's garbage and was selling an empty prescription bottle. I forget what it went for, but I just shook my head.....
That is a little scary!

[GateandGarden]

That is a little scary!Yeah!
:shocked: And I think there's a good chance that it was fake. Or maybe not.

Hillary

[seeker007nmss]

Yeah!
:shocked: And I think there's a good chance that it was fake. Or maybe not.

Hillary


I remember it had garbage grease stains on it. .......ugh.... :shocked:

[MirrorInTheSky]

Then you're smoking some funny cigarettes. :p

Mmmmm.....pass those cigarettes my way....

[Villavic]

Affairs of the Heart
Rooms on Fire
Blue Denim
Sometimes It's a Bitch
Just like a woman
Rose Garden

and if you include Tango... (though I do think this was pre-klonopin)
Seven Wonders
Welcome to the Room Sara

[sara1998]

OK... If you're including Tango, I CANNOT believe no one has listed Straight Back....

I love that song.... plus, all of the above.
:thumbsup:

Maria

EDIT: Obviously I got someone's cigarettes mixed up with mine, because we all know Straight Back is on Mirage..... :shrug:

[EveryHour]

Hadn't she "just quit Klonopin" with Street Angel? I suppose some of the songs must've been written on Klonopin, though, if that's what you're going for.:shrug:

It's so sad when you see glimpses of how well she was doing post-coke but before the Klonopin took hold. The '87 MTV Awards in Australia come to mind. She seems SO happy and clear.

[amber]

OK... If you're including Tango, I CANNOT believe no one has listed Straight Back....

I love that song.... plus, all of the above.
:thumbsup:

Maria

EDIT: Obviously I got someone's cigarettes mixed up with mine, because we all know Straight Back is on Mirage..... :shrug:
hehe...yeah. "they weren't mine, i swear!" :D

[blinker12]

Hadn't she "just quit Klonopin" with Street Angel? I suppose some of the songs must've been written on Klonopin, though, if that's what you're going for.:shrug:

My understanding is that she underwent Klonopin rehab in 1993, by which time she'd recorded most of Street Angel. I think she's stated that after leaving rehab, she went back and re-recorded some vocals -- but it wasn't enough to lift the album as a whole out of its Klonopin haze.
As for when the SA songs were written, when you think about it many had already been lying around for years by the time she recorded them (Greta, Destiny, Rose Garden), or else the music was written by others (Blue Denim, Listen to the Rain, Maybe Love, Unconditional Love, Just Like a Woman, Kick It). I think "Street Angel" and "Jane" were the only new, non-cowritten songs from the album -- both pretty icky, IMO.

[The Tower]

I think "Street Angel" and "Jane" were the only new, non-cowritten songs from the album -- both pretty icky, IMO.

Jane was co-written with Joel Derouin. The two Stevie Only Songs were "Street Angel" and "Love Is Like A River".

[EveryHour]

My understanding is that she underwent Klonopin rehab in 1993, by which time she'd recorded most of Street Angel.

Right, of course. I was forgetting to think of how long it took to record that album.

[Janet]

MAybe her songs on OSOTM aren't klonopin induced, the interviews are. Some of them are just painful.

There was one great one she seemed really up but the rest she is a total zombie.

I love Freedom, Second Time, Blue Denim, Paper Doll ( klonopin induced?)Greta the most.

[David]

If you had to make a "Best of" album from Stevie's Klonopin years what would you include? Let's say this era is from Tango in the Night to Street Angel.I'd put it from "Mirror" to "Street Angel." My list would consist of "Inspiration," "Mirror, Mirror," "Two Kinds of Love," "Ghosts," "Desert Angel," "Alice," "Destiny," "Just Like a Woman" & "Docklands."

Maybe some unreleased stuff from that time is worth throwing in (or out ... or up), too, like "Tragedy of One's Own Soul," "Dial the Number" & most of all "The Crystal."

[deribish]

Here's a thought --
If she was klonopin-free and felling better on the SA tour, then how do you explain those hazy, lifeless interviews on Jay Leno & Letterman (and even those on MTV where she's wearing the pink curtain and has overly-wisped hair)? She was SO subdued and sleepy acting. NOw her TV performances of Blue Demin were great, but those post-song interviews.... hmmmm. Anyone else notice this?
-D

[Johnny Stew]

Here's a thought --
If she was klonopin-free and felling better on the SA tour, then how do you explain those hazy, lifeless interviews on Jay Leno & Letterman (and even those on MTV where she's wearing the pink curtain and has overly-wisped hair)? She was SO subdued and sleepy acting. NOw her TV performances of Blue Demin were great, but those post-song interviews.... hmmmm. Anyone else notice this?
-D

You thought she seemed hazy and lifeless in the Leno and Letterman interviews? I thought she seemed really clear-eyed and... well, I don't want to say "energetic," but I definitely don't think she seemed lifeless.

Now, on Leno, she was definitely out of breath for the first several minutes after the song, and was answering his questions with head-nods and whatnot. But I think that had more to do with the extra pounds she was carrying, than anything else (also, wasn't the Leno appearance filmed the same week as the 'House Of Blues' radio show, when she was suffering from bronchial/asthma-related problems?).
After that though, I think she kicked in.

But since those shows are filmed in the afternoon, maybe she just hadn't "brightened up" yet.

Still, I didn't think she seemed "hazy and lifeless." And certainly nothing like the Entertainment Tonight/E!/CNN interviews for 'Timespace,' when she was at the height of her Klonopin fog. :shrug:
Of course, anything Post-'Rock A Little' does seem subdued by comparison... it's almost like it would be if Robin Williams suddenly gave a sedate interview!

By the way, what's the "pink curtain/wispy hair/MTV" thing? I never saw that. :(

[amber]

You thought she seemed hazy and lifeless in the Leno and Letterman interviews? I thought she seemed really clear-eyed and... well, I don't want to say "energetic," but I definitely don't think she seemed lifeless.

Now, on Leno, she was definitely out of breath for the first several minutes after the song, and was answering his questions with head-nods and whatnot. But I think that had more to do with the extra pounds she was carrying, than anything else (also, wasn't the Leno appearance filmed the same week as the 'House Of Blues' radio show, when she was suffering from bronchial/asthma-related problems?).
After that though, I think she kicked in.

But since those shows are filmed in the afternoon, maybe she just hadn't "brightened up" yet.

Still, I didn't think she seemed "hazy and lifeless." And certainly nothing like the Entertainment Tonight/E!/CNN interviews for 'Timespace,' when she was at the height of her Klonopin fog. :shrug:
Of course, anything Post-'Rock A Little' does seem subdued by comparison... it's almost like it would be if Robin Williams suddenly gave a sedate interview!

By the way, what's the "pink curtain/wispy hair/MTV" thing? I never saw that. :(
Yeah, by watching her, sometimes i think she actually is SHY in certain situations, and i know for sure that the extra pounds would probably exacerbate that in Stevie...and without coke? You know, coke really is the confidence drug...
And, of course Robin was a coke head as well...

[takenbythesky]

MAybe her songs on OSOTM aren't klonopin induced, the interviews are. .

I don't know for sure whether or not she was under the influence of the Klonopin while recording/writing The Other Side of the Mirror. Yet, while listening to that album, it's clear much has changed. Not only is the manic energy of "Imperial Hotel" and the rest of Rock A Little absent, but also Miss Nicks seems to be fighting something. There's a veil, or "long nets of white," between the listener and Miss Nicks to me. She's fighting for her life, for survival, and desperately trying to break through. It isn't just that her voice is wizened...I can tell that the creative spark is in danger of being extinguished.

That said, The Other Side of the Mirror is a lovely, affecting album, one of my very favorites.

[MACFAN]

Rooms On Fire
Blue Denim

[MACFAN]

Oops didn't finish the list

Rooms On Fire
Blue Denim
Ghosts
Greta
Long Way To Go
Inspiration
Freedom
Love Is Like River
Ooh My Love
Desert Angel
The Second Time
Just Like A Woman
Paper Doll
Destiny

[David]

You thought she seemed hazy and lifeless in the Leno and Letterman interviews? I thought she seemed really clear-eyed and... well, I don't want to say "energetic," but I definitely don't think she seemed lifeless.I don't, either. I was sick of her from the last six or seven years at that point, so I really got a kick out of her on TV in '94. Stevie was back . . . better than ever (or at least since 1986).

[sodascouts]

I don't think what she wrote for OSOTM was really Klonopin-influenced, so I'll do the best from Street Angel, BTM, and TimeSpace.

1) Blue Denim
2) Street Angel
3) Destiny

That's it.

[David]

I don't think what she wrote for OSOTM was really Klonopin-influenced, so I'll do the best from Street Angel, BTM, and TimeSpace.

1) Blue Denim
2) Street Angel
3) Destiny

That's it.What about [sputter] "Jane"?!?!

[ontheEdgeof17]

I'm really afraid that these "Klonopin years" will kill her shot for the RnR Hall of Fame....at least for awhile.


-Curt

[Nikolaj]

i think 'the other side of the mirror' is the best written solo cd of her career, the songs just are Stevie at her best, for me. I don't hear a glaring 'this should never have made it to a major-label release' song on it, which i do hear in the relatively recent 'That Made Me Stronger' and 'Silver Girl'...

As for the Klonopin, i had a talk about it with my shrink, who said the drug is highly beneficial when taken properly, and i kinda believe her because she's been knowledgable in helping me with medication issues.
i asked my doctor about the drug when i saw that she had a klonopin mini-poster framed on her desk during my session, lol.
Not that i disbelieve Stevie's opinion of the drug, but i would think for her to have been on the drug for years and years, there had to have been a time that it was beneficial for her, and that may have been during the OSOTM era. my doctor said IF the patient increases their dosage, or abuses it, it's a dangerous drug but that could be said of any pharmaceutical, and that for someone who may have abused cocaine and alcohol, it's not a stretch that it's possible they'd also abuse the Klonopin, but its "not the drug's fault". My doc also told me that some people can, and do, remain on the drug for many years with no adverse side-effects and that it isn't ONLY short-term use that Klonopin is prescribed for.