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wondergirl9847
10-13-2004, 03:08 PM
Got this in an email...it's just good advice for all.

Abduction Precautions for Women

We can now add to the list of victims the retired 77 yr. old TCU professor from Ft Worth whose body was found last week in Oklahoma--and the 11 yr.old in Sarasota, FL. Because of these recent abductions in daylight hours, refresh yourself of these things to do in an emergency situation...This is for you, and for you to share with your wife, your children, everyone you know.

After reading this, forward it to someone you care about. It never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. (DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.

B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS LWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN!The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when they're home alone at night.

Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

GateandGarden
10-13-2004, 03:22 PM
I don't know if some people are sick of hearing stuff like this, but I'm really glad you posted this, because I don't think we can read it enough. I'm very paranoid and I know people who act like they don't give a damn and I'm hoping that someone gets to them so that they're more alert than they are.

Hillary

GateandGarden
10-13-2004, 03:40 PM
It certainly is my wish to live my life in fear of some remote possibility. I don't mean to insult the handing out of tips and pointers, but it's another thing to live in a state of paranoia. What the hell is the point? On the chance that it does happen, are you going to whip out your little list of actions to be taken? What if he hits you from the side and your book only lists a frontal attack?

So you're so distraught by the idea that it would cause you to live in paranoia, yet you still wish it upon others? You're hoping someone gets to me so I'm more alert? Well once I've recovered from the torture and maiming I'll be sure to come back and acquaint myself with the proceedure.

Wow, question marks abound.I mean that I hope that those people who aren't very alert will read things like that and they might think twice before they sit in their car in a dark parking lot for hours with the doors unlocked. I just think some people need to be told those things before they actually do them.

I'm not wishing an attack on anyone! :shocked: But I have to admit that when I re-read my post it sounded kind of bad. :o

Hillary

DrummerDeanna
10-13-2004, 03:47 PM
My mom always used to say that no - you shouldn't live in fear and paranoia - you also should not be so lazy and stupid as to invite bad things into your life...ie: sitting in your car oblivious in a dark parking lot....with your car doors unlocked....

Some areas are more dangerous than others...sometimes it's better to be paranoid and safe than dead or maimed....

Sugar
10-13-2004, 03:53 PM
No one is supposed to live in a state of paranoia. The idea is just to make better choices. And the thing about the elbow is cool! So you throw an elbow if you at all can. It doesn't take a complicated plan.

I actually hadn't heard some of those before, so that was cool. Used to be they always said to just give up. That's not the conventional wisdom anymore, I've heard.

I always like to hear the latest wisdom on this stuff. Sure, statistically it's rare, and that's important to keep in mind. But there's nothing wrong with knowing a thing or two. I was mugged at gunpoint once, and I always think that there's so many ways it could have gone...

GateandGarden
10-13-2004, 04:04 PM
I was mugged at gunpoint once, and I always think that there's so many ways it could have gone...Exactly. When something like that happens to you, you can't help but think about these issues and feel the need to tell others to be cautious.

Hillary

WelshWitchPMD
10-13-2004, 05:14 PM
Even just today my Dad (who's elderly) was waiting for me in a K-mart(not in a good area) parking lot. Two people in vans pulled next to him on both sides and did not look to Kosher so my Dad drove away and parked to another location in the lot.
I think that it is wise to say that if something does not seem right to get out before it's too late.

wondergirl9847
10-13-2004, 05:29 PM
Glad your dad listened to his gut, that is the thing to do. If something doesn't feel right, it's probably a good idea to move along and be safe.

Sugar, sorry to hear about your mugging, but glad you were okay.

It's not about paranoia, it's about safety. Women, most especially, need to watch out for themselves.

skcin
10-14-2004, 03:12 PM
And what if there is a crying baby on your doorstep though? Oh well, let the kiddie suffer.



It won't be crying long after the dingo takes it...

Paula :cool:

Livia
10-14-2004, 04:35 PM
Good reminders-and that car trunk thing makes me laugh. Not that abduction is funny, but can you imagine seeing a hand or foot waving through a tail light? :shocked:

I've lived alone since 1987 and I ALWAYS keep my doors locked. I also never sleep with windows open.

strandinthewind
10-14-2004, 04:41 PM
Good reminders-and that car trunk thing makes me laugh. Not that abduction is funny, but can you imagine seeing a hand or foot waving through a tail light? :shocked:

I've lived alone since 1987 and I ALWAYS keep my doors locked. I also never sleep with windows open.

Many cars now have interior trunk releases.


http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rulesregs/fmcsr/regs/571.401.htm

DeeGeMe
10-14-2004, 04:44 PM
Read Gavin de Becker's book "The Gift of Fear" and/or "The Anatomy of Motive" by John Douglas (former FBI profiler).

The truth is that if you get in the car with someone who is trying to attack you, statistics show that you are not going to survive. Fight like hell if you must but never, ever go along willingly with your attacker thinking that if you cooperate that they won't hurt you.

amber
10-14-2004, 06:08 PM
By the way, for those who have kids - My mom was very strict very early about teaching me kidnap and murder stuff. The one that I thought was good -
If someone your kid knows, or doesn't know, approaches them in any way and says something like: "Your mom is in the hospital, and she sent me to pick you up" (or something similar) We had a secret word that that person had to say, or else i would know that they were lying, my mom was not in the hospital. I mean, it seems strange, but i guess a lot of kidnappers did that? Our word was Serendipity. Anyways - also, look under the car...
BTW - My mom recently sent me bear spray cause she was worried about me walking around at night and stuff... :p
Amber "paranoid family" G.

Janet
10-14-2004, 07:38 PM
I don't know if some people are sick of hearing stuff like this, but I'm really glad you posted this, because I don't think we can read it enough. I'm very paranoid and I know people who act like they don't give a damn and I'm hoping that someone gets to them so that they're more alert than they are.

Hillary

I totally agree :thumbsup: