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strandinthewind
10-10-2004, 09:02 AM
From Cnn.com - if you go to the link below, W clearly is wearing something underneath his jacket. I suggest it is the prop up bar Cheney uses when he uses W like a Charlie McCarthy doll :laugh:


Bush aides deny Internet rumors he was wired

CHANHASSEN, Minnesota (AP) -- Bush campaign aides are laughing off widespread Internet suggestions that President Bush was wired during his first debate with John Kerry, to get help from advisers.

A photo taken during the September 30th event appears to show a small, boxy shape between the president's shoulder blades.

Musings on various Web sites suggest it could have been a radio receiver so the president's aides could feed him answers during the debate.

Spokesman Scott Stanzel calls the idea "ridiculous," and adds, "Some people have been spending too many hours looking at left-wing conspiracy Web sites."

He adds, "Did you hear the one about Elvis moderating the third debate?"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/10/bush.rumor.ap/index.html

Violet
10-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Wow, I never realized what poor posture he has. If he'd have stood up straighter, no one would have noticed the wire! :laugh: hehe

But seriously, if someone were feeding him answers, don't you think he would have done better???

Carol

Oh, gees...did I actually just post something in a political thread?!?!? :shocked:

dissention
10-10-2004, 10:38 AM
Wow, I never realized what poor posture he has. If he'd have stood up straighter, no one would have noticed the wire! :laugh: hehe


It doesn't help that he isn't even six feet tall. ;) Kerry is a whopping six inches taller than he is!

And I'm curious to know what that bulge is, it's obviously a wire.

Violet
10-10-2004, 11:07 AM
And I'm curious to know what that bulge is, it's obviously a wire.

yeah, but you know, it's not like he has enough hair to cover an ear piece. Something in his ear would been noticed. I was going to say maybe they both had earpieces to make sure they could hear the moderator and each other clearly, but you would have been able to see them....

Carol

strandinthewind
10-10-2004, 11:37 AM
yeah, but you know, it's not like he has enough hair to cover an ear piece. Something in his ear would been noticed. I was going to say maybe they both had earpieces to make sure they could hear the moderator and each other clearly, but you would have been able to see them....

Carol

I think there are wireless ear pieces and I am fairly conbfident the govt. has stuff only found in the X-Men :laugh: Maybe it was some kind og safety thing like a mylar vest - but it looks like a rectangular box :shrug:

Violet
10-10-2004, 11:53 AM
I think there are wireless ear pieces and I am fairly conbfident the govt. has stuff only found in the X-Men :laugh: Maybe it was some kind og safety thing like a mylar vest - but it looks like a rectangular box :shrug:

but if it were a WIRELESS earpiece, why would there be a wire under his jacket? :shrug: I'll have to ask my husband when he gets home...he's in TV, and might be more familiar with the different battery packs/earpiece things. But I agree the govt probably has stuff regular TV folks don't. But I still don't know what the wire would be for if it were a wireless earpiece...

Carol

gldstwmn
10-10-2004, 12:16 PM
From Cnn.com - if you go to the link below, W clearly is wearing something underneath his jacket. I suggest it is the prop up bar Cheney uses when he uses W like a Charlie McCarthy doll :laugh:


I noticed it the night of the debate. I also notice they issued a non denial denial about it today, saying it's not a receiver. They don't go on to clarify what it is.

gldstwmn
10-10-2004, 12:18 PM
yeah, but you know, it's not like he has enough hair to cover an ear piece. Something in his ear would been noticed. I was going to say maybe they both had earpieces to make sure they could hear the moderator and each other clearly, but you would have been able to see them....

Carol

Actually, it could have been a wireless earpiece, hence the receiver. They make them so small that they are virtually undetectable.

dissention
10-10-2004, 12:39 PM
Actually, it could have been a wireless earpiece, hence the receiver. They make them so small that they are virtually undetectable.

It would explain the long pauses. He was probably waiting for someone to tell him something. I thought he was rather embarassing when he asked if his tow minutes were up, then paused for what seemed like forever and babbled incoherently until they were up.

estranged4life
10-10-2004, 01:13 PM
Bush aides deny Internet rumors he was wired

CHANHASSEN, Minnesota (AP) -- Bush campaign aides are laughing off widespread Internet suggestions that President Bush was wired during his first debate with John Kerry, to get help from advisers.

A photo taken during the September 30th event appears to show a small, boxy shape between the president's shoulder blades.

Musings on various Web sites suggest it could have been a radio receiver so the president's aides could feed him answers during the debate.



I think the Repubs should have used a John McVie "styled" cardboard cutout (That was used in the "Tusk" video) and stood him up against the "Munster man"...And just have a tape player behind the Prez playing on a loop the word "Duhhhhhh"!!!

Thank GOD for the MLB playoffs, Cause the debate on the other night was boring as s**t! Btw, I think Bush lost that one too...

Brian j.

EnchantedSLN
10-10-2004, 03:59 PM
During the first debate I remember thinking it was weird for him to say "wait, let me finish" when no one had interrupted and he still had plenty of time left. Some speculate he was telling the person in his earpiece to slow down. www.isbushwired.com is an interesting read.

Personally I think it's just a rumor, but I'm glad the news networks are running with it. If he is being coached whoever's feeding him lines is doing a piss poor job of it :eek:.

strandinthewind
10-10-2004, 04:00 PM
IT could cost him the election if it is proven. I mean if he is too stupid to field his own questions . . .

amber
10-10-2004, 05:43 PM
IT could cost him the election if it is proven. I mean if he is too stupid to field his own questions . . .
that is the tip of the stupid iceberg, i think...proving that will just begin to scratch the surface of his idiocy... :laugh:

Violet
10-10-2004, 05:51 PM
It would explain the long pauses. He was probably waiting for someone to tell him something. I thought he was rather embarassing when he asked if his tow minutes were up, then paused for what seemed like forever and babbled incoherently until they were up.

I thought that, too. But really, if they were going to wire him I really think they'd have done a better job hiding it. And practiced more so it would go smoother....

Carol

The Tower
10-11-2004, 10:10 AM
I saw the title of this thread and thought it was a discussion about Laura Bush. Eh, what the hell do I know....

;)

strandinthewind
10-11-2004, 10:16 AM
I saw the title of this thread and thought it was a discussion about Laura Bush. Eh, what the hell do I know....

;)

Not that I meant anything like that at all :rolleyes:

BTW - who is the cuteness in your avatar?

The Tower
10-11-2004, 11:34 AM
BTW - who is the cuteness in your avatar?

That is my youngest puppy-dog. Her name is Bubbles. She is a fawn and blue long-haired Chihuahua. Her "long hair" didn't really come in, so she's more 1/2 and 1/2, which makes her coat velvety soft- like cashmere. She will be two years old this December 15th. She weighs two and 1/2 pounds and she is the light of my life.

strandinthewind
10-11-2004, 11:42 AM
That is my youngest puppy-dog. Her name is Bubbles. She is a fawn and blue long-haired Chihuahua. Her "long hair" didn't really come in, so she's more 1/2 and 1/2, which makes her coat velvety soft- like cashmere. She will be two years old this December 15th. She weighs two and 1/2 pounds and she is the light of my life.

She is a beaut!!!!!!

I LOVE DOGS!!!!

As I have mentioned before, I have Scotties!!!!!!!!! They are difficult, independant, and somewhat snobbish - could it be they learned that from me :laugh: :angel:

gldstwmn
10-11-2004, 11:44 AM
That is my youngest puppy-dog. Her name is Bubbles. She is a fawn and blue long-haired Chihuahua. Her "long hair" didn't really come in, so she's more 1/2 and 1/2, which makes her coat velvety soft- like cashmere. She will be two years old this December 15th. She weighs two and 1/2 pounds and she is the light of my life.

She is darling. My cats would love her! Or at least two of them would. :laugh:

dissention
10-11-2004, 01:00 PM
I thought that, too. But really, if they were going to wire him I really think they'd have done a better job hiding it. And practiced more so it would go smoother....

Carol

Well, it seems to me that he's wearing a radio receiver. I don't think they were expecting it to be noticeable because he was wearing it in a black suit in the center of the back seam. But once he got onstage and under those lights, it was obvious. Plus, you can clearly see the wire/antenna going up his back:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40161000/jpg/_40161014_bulge_203body.jpg

Now, if anyone is having doubts, just look at this Reuters photo:

http://hoffmania.blogspot.com/BushEar.jpg

Patti
10-11-2004, 02:08 PM
Diss, I see the lump in his back, but I'm not getting anything from that second photo. All I see are shadows. Can ya help me out here?

dissention
10-11-2004, 02:26 PM
Diss, I see the lump in his back, but I'm not getting anything from that second photo. All I see are shadows. Can ya help me out here?

Look inside his ear. ;)

strandinthewind
10-11-2004, 02:28 PM
Look inside his ear. ;)

past the hair :rolleyes :eek: :laugh:

I mean HELLLOOOOO - you are the Pres. - tell your barber to trim it! :eek: :laugh: No wonder he has trouble hearing :laugh:

gldstwmn
10-12-2004, 12:24 AM
Link to photos and video:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7036.htm

What's that wire behind his tie?

amber
10-12-2004, 12:27 AM
She is a beaut!!!!!!

I LOVE DOGS!!!!

As I have mentioned before, I have Scotties!!!!!!!!! They are difficult, independant, and somewhat snobbish - could it be they learned that from me :laugh: :angel:
Perhaps - but i'm sure they're great researchers... :lol: :laugh:
Dogs can be snobbish? I've never met a dog like that...

strandinthewind
10-12-2004, 05:20 AM
Perhaps - but i'm sure they're great researchers... :lol: :laugh:
Dogs can be snobbish? I've never met a dog like that...

Scotties, and most terriers for that matter, are notorious for it!!!!!!!

amber
10-12-2004, 11:03 AM
Scotties, and most terriers for that matter, are notorious for it!!!!!!!
oh, i thought they were known for being barky and irritating and loyal to their owner...you know, they think they're big guard dogs kind of syndrome? I've never heard it described as "snobby". How cute. They're like cats, but a dog.

gldstwmn
10-12-2004, 02:10 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1303782_2,00.html

WAS IT A SEAM

William Hunt, who owns a tailor’s shop in Savile Row where bespoke suits cost between £2,000 and £3,000, insisted that no suit or shirt would form such a strange ridge.

“Without a shadow of a doubt, I would say that he had some kind of wire running up his back underneath his clothing. Not even the seams on a cheap suit would look like that. It must have been some kind of transmitter.”

. . . OR SOMETHING ELSE?

If it is not a radio transmitter, feeding killer lines from the political adviser Karl Rove into an invisible earplug radio, what is President Bush’s back bulge? The possibilities are:

A TENS machine
An unusual hearing aid
A back brace
A security tag
A bullet-proof vest
A satellite tracking device

amber
10-12-2004, 02:15 PM
Wait, a satellite tracking device? So they can know the exact moment when his brain wanders off?? :laugh:

dissention
10-12-2004, 03:41 PM
A bullet-proof vest

Nope. NO bullet-proof vest does that AND the WH has denied that he was wearing one. ;)

gldstwmn
10-12-2004, 07:07 PM
Nope. NO bullet-proof vest does that AND the WH has denied that he was wearing one. ;)

If the Secret Service allows him to go out without a vest they are not doing their job. There's no way he's not wearing a vest.

strandinthewind
10-12-2004, 07:59 PM
oh, i thought they were known for being barky and irritating and loyal to their owner...you know, they think they're big guard dogs kind of syndrome? I've never heard it described as "snobby". How cute. They're like cats, but a dog.

Scotties in general do not really like anyone but their owners (and even then the owner is the ape with the food :laugh: ) - though they may be friendly to others for awhile. That is where the in general snob desciption fits in.

What you are talking about is the terrier bravada or spirit - all terriers should have this. TO relate it to FM, Yorkies really have it - there is an interview where Stevie talks about her Yorkie thinking he is a German Shepherd on patrol :laugh:

strandinthewind
10-12-2004, 08:03 PM
If the Secret Service allows him to go out without a vest they are not doing their job. There's no way he's not wearing a vest.

I agree - it is the worst kept secret that the Pres. almost always wears one in public, esp. since Regean got shot. I suppose he could refuse, but W is HATED so much more by so many more than any Pres. I remember. So, I am sure he wears one. But that was not what that appeared to be. That was some kind of box with a wire.

I can tell you personally, that suits from that store and other similar stores like Oxford, Brioni, Hickey-Freeman, etc. do not have any line like that because I have them - granted, I cannot get them across my gut, but I still have them as a reminder :laugh:

DeeGeMe
10-12-2004, 10:29 PM
I've been around a lot of BPV's in my day (I worked around cops for several years) and they fit high up in the back-they do not cut across the back like that. I also worked in TV for 10 years and I'm here to tell you that what that bump look like to me is the microphone/transmitter things newspeople wear when they're on the air so they can get directions from their director in the production booth.

EnchantedSLN
10-12-2004, 10:50 PM
Link to photos and video:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7036.htm

What's that wire behind his tie?

Ok, that is pretty shady. I'm curious to see them explain that away :rolleyes:.

Nixxxed
10-12-2004, 11:11 PM
Perhaps Kerry should make his first statement at tomorrow night's debate to insist that Bush remove his jacket, lift his tie, and clean out his ears to prove to everyone that he's not wired.

That puts Bush in a Catch-22 -- if he's wired, he proven to be a cheat. If he's not (because he decided not to wear it to avoid any more embarrassing photos), he'll stumble all over his upper lip like in the first debate. :laugh:

gldstwmn
10-12-2004, 11:41 PM
I agree - it is the worst kept secret that the Pres. almost always wears one in public, esp. since Regean got shot. I suppose he could refuse, but W is HATED so much more by so many more than any Pres. I remember. So, I am sure he wears one. But that was not what that appeared to be. That was some kind of box with a wire.



Agreed. :nod:

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 05:55 AM
Perhaps Kerry should make his first statement at tomorrow night's debate to insist that Bush remove his jacket, lift his tie, and clean out his ears to prove to everyone that he's not wired.

That puts Bush in a Catch-22 -- if he's wired, he proven to be a cheat. If he's not (because he decided not to wear it to avoid any more embarrassing photos), he'll stumble all over his upper lip like in the first debate. :laugh:

We assume Kerry is not wired as well :shrug: I would put NOTHING past these two.

But, I agree - they both should have to be frisked before entering.

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 06:06 AM
I thought this was interesting and Leno's comments are funny!!!!

Trail Tales: Bush's Pompom Days

Wednesday, October 13, 2004

Election Day is 20 days away. The third and last presidential debate takes place Wednesday in Tempe, Ariz.

Edwards Knocks Bush's Pompom Days

Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., (search) has a theory about what was hidden underneath an unusual wrinkle that appeared on the back of President Bush's (search) suit jacket during his first debate with John Kerry.

"I think it was his battery," a grinning Edwards told Jay Leno on "The Tonight Show" Tuesday.

"I think tomorrow, before the debate, John Kerry ought to pat him down," Edwards said, referring to the final Bush-Kerry match up, scheduled for Wednesday in Arizona.

Making his second appearance on the comedian's stage this year, the Democratic vice presidential nominee was in turns silly and serious while chatting about issues from Iraq to chubby Secret Service (search) agents.

Leno asked Edwards if he could beat the president in a foot race.

Edwards, who said he jogged about five miles Tuesday, reminded the audience he played football as a student; Bush was on a cheering squad.

" was on the side, with his pompoms," Edwards said. "I don't know, can you run fast with those cheerleading outfits on?"

During the first debate between the presidential candidates, a camera glimpsed what looked like a rectangular lump between Bush's shoulder blades. Bush's campaign aides have laughed off rampant Internet speculation that the president was wired to get help from advisers.

— The Associated Press

More Charges of Election-Related Violence

Based on reports from both sides, campaigning can be dangerous business. On Tuesday, the Kerry campaign came out with a list of 12 incidents of vandalism or other crimes against Kerry supporters and offices.

The Democratic National Committee (search) and Kerry campaign reported three of their own in Arizona, Florida and Nevada. The other nine incidents were reported by the press in Florida, Lousiana, Michigan, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania and Tennessee.

Among the incidents, DNC and Kerry staff said five people in Pensacola, Fla. reported to the campaign that they had bricks thrown into their windows of their cars. In Phoenix, a glass door to the office was shattered and the place turned upside down. In September, computers, CD-ROMs and palm pilots were stolen from Kerry's campaign office in Las Vegas.

The press reports included incidents of spray painting on Kerry property, broken windows and light bulbs, burnt and torn-down signs in support of Kerry-Edwards and stolen laptops.

The list comes one day after the chairman of the Bush-Cheney campaign had written a letter to the president of the AFL-CIO (search) complaining that the union's protesters have participated in acts of violence and creating an "intimidating atmosphere" for Bush campaign staffers and supporters.

A number of other incidents, not related directly to the union, were also described in the letter. They included rocks thrown through windows, laptops stolen and even shots fired at the door of an office in Knoxville, Tenn. The shooting took place very early in the morning when the office was empty. No one was hurt.

— FOX News' Steve Brown contributed to this report.

Poll Watch

National

[B]Kerry comes out on top of a new CBS poll, 48 percent to Bush’s 45 percent. Independent Ralph Nader takes 2 percent in the survey of 760 likely voters. The margin of error is plus-or-minus 3.6 percent.
Pennsylvania

Battleground alert. Kerry up 49 percent to Bush’s 47 percent in the Quinnipiac University poll of 1,347 likely voters. This compares to a 49-46 percent Kerry lead among likely voters in a Sept. 28 poll.

Ad Wars

Ad: ‘Complicated Plan’
Sponsor: Bush-Cheney campaign

VOICE OVER: John Kerry and liberals in Congress have a health care plan for you. A big-government take over. 1.5 trillion dollars. Rationing. Less access. Fewer choices. Long waits. And Washington bureaucrats — not your doctor — make final decisions on your health. So if you need treatment all you have to do is... You get the picture. John Kerry and liberals in Congress. Big government-run healthcare.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm George W. Bush and I approve this message.

Ad: ‘RX Drugs’
Sponsor: Kerry-Edwards Campaign

JOHN KERRY: For the last four years, one man has stood between America and lower cost prescription drugs. George Bush. As President, I'll fight to allow Americans to import lower cost prescription drugs from Canada. And I'll make it legal for Medicare to make bulk purchases, guaranteeing a better price for Americans. We can have lower cost prescription drugs in America. All it takes is a president who will fight to make it happen. I'm John Kerry and I approve this message.

Ad: ‘Your Doctor’
Sponsor: Bush-Cheney campaign

VOICE OVER: John Kerry and liberals in Congress have a health care plan. It includes the IRS, Treasury Department, and several massive new government agencies. Your doctor? In here somewhere, but not in charge. This 1.5 trillion dollar government program puts bureaucrats, not your doctor... in charge of your health care decisions. One more reason we can't risk the liberals in Congress and John Kerry.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm George W. Bush and I approve this message.

Funny Files

"The Tonight Show with Jay Leno"

"The election is just three weeks away from today. Think about it. Over a hundred million Americans will go to the polls and almost half of that number will have their votes counted. That is real progress."

"I read today in the Times that John Kerry has now received the endorsement from the National Marijuana Party. Well, good luck getting those people out to the polls."

"Ralph Nader has conceded that he won't win a single state in the election. You think it was tough on Nader to make that announcement? You should have seen his supporter."

"President Bush practicing hard for this one. All day long he's been walking around saying to himself, 'Internet, Internet."'

"President Bush apparently had a hard time getting past reporters and leaving the auditorium in St. Louis last week at the last debate. How amazing is that? Bush not having an exit strategy. That's amazing."

"This is interesting. According to a survey by the premier dating service for busy professionals, 49 percent of single women said they would rather go on a date with Bush, 33 percent with Kerry and 15 percent with Nader. I don't know, women, are any of these guys really dream dates? With Ralph Nader you have to pay, with John Kerry he keeps asking how much money you have, and with George Bush, halfway through the date he starts choking on a pretzel."

"A lot of talk in political circles now about amending the U.S. constitution so people born in other countries can run for president. Apparently, this is part of President Bush's plan to outsource the presidency."

"Late Late Show with David Alan Grier"

"On health care reform, the president says Kerry proves he's against good medical care by running with a trial lawyer. Bush shows he's for it by running with a patient."

FOX News’ Corbett Riner contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,135250,00.html

DeeGeMe
10-13-2004, 08:46 AM
Did y'all know too that the Bush campaign folks insisted in their original 32-page debate agreement that there could be NO shots taken which would show the candidate's backs? But the networks refused to go along with that--while the campaign's might have agreed on the debate rules and the camera shots, the networks did NOT sign onto that and as a result, that's how those shots got out there in the first place. But it does make you wonder--why is it that the Bush campaign was so insistent on no shots being taken of Bush's back?

I mean, as a woman, I can tell you that I don't want someone getting a shot of my ass, since it's bigger than I would like it to be, but you know--these guys had on suit jackets which hide a guy's butt pretty well. I can't think that Bush was worried about how big his hips would look on the air or anything--so what was he worried about?????????

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:41 AM
If the Secret Service allows him to go out without a vest they are not doing their job. There's no way he's not wearing a vest.

He may well be wearing one, but a vest will not make that kind of bump on his back. And if the WH wants to say he isn't wearing one, it just lends more credence to the belief that it was a receiver. ;)

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:43 AM
I've been around a lot of BPV's in my day (I worked around cops for several years) and they fit high up in the back-they do not cut across the back like that. I also worked in TV for 10 years and I'm here to tell you that what that bump look like to me is the microphone/transmitter things newspeople wear when they're on the air so they can get directions from their director in the production booth.

Exactly. And Kerry was wearing a vest, too. But no BPV will look like that under a jacket.

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 10:45 AM
He may well be wearing one, but a vest will not make that kind of bump on his back. And if the WH wants to say he isn't wearing one, it just lends more credence to the belief that it was a receiver. ;)

The only thing keeping me from being 100% sure (as opposed to 99.99% :laugh: ) is that why would the WH pick such a large one? Wouldn't they have access to far smaller ones and certainly the CIA, FBI, etc. have tiny ones. That just does not make sense to me. But, I think it is some type of device and his stammering lends creedence to someone talking in his ear while he is trying to talk.


Interestingly, where was this person? If they were watching on t.v., there is almost always a delay of one or two seconds. So, that would not really work. They would have to be watching it live :shrug:

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 10:46 AM
We assume Kerry is not wired as well :shrug: I would put NOTHING past these two.



Kerry doesn't need to wear a wire. You've been watching Fox too much again, I can tell. :laugh:

mylittledemon
10-13-2004, 10:48 AM
It was not a mic. I love it when people try to put down the president by coming up with outlandish, liberal accusations. It rescinds the validity of your opinion. I don't think he would have made it on the stage with a "wire". That's just what I think.






PS..GO KERRY!

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:49 AM
Interestingly, where was this person? If they were watching on t.v., there is almost always a delay of one or two seconds. So, that would not really work. They would have to be watching it live :shrug:

Why would they have to watch it on TV? They could have been backstage listening to him and then feeding him lines. :shrug:

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:50 AM
It was not a mic. I love it when people try to put down the president by coming up with outlandish, liberal accusations. It rescinds the validity of your opinion. I don't think he would have made it on the stage with a "wire". That's just what I think.

Fortunately, there is more to suggest that he was wearing a wire than there is to suggest that he wasn't. ;)

PS: GO BUSH!!! Wave to Stevie Wonder for me, Mr. President!!!

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:52 AM
Kerry doesn't need to wear a wire. You've been watching Fox too much again, I can tell. :laugh:

:laugh:

Did you see Frontline last night? My word, I wish Kerry was smart enough to do ads like he used to back in the day. Those were priceless. :nod:

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 10:52 AM
Why would they have to watch it on TV? They could have been backstage listening to him and then feeding him lines. :shrug:

I was thinking that if someone was walking around muttering to themselves backstage for that length of time, it would look suspicious as opposed to the privacy of a closed off room. I mean there were tons of reporters around and they tend to snoop. But, it is possible Rove, who I am SURE was on the other end, was hiding in the rafters :laugh:

dissention
10-13-2004, 10:53 AM
I was thinking that if someone was walking around muttering to themselves backstage for that length of time, it would look suspicious as opposed to the privacy of a closed off room. I mean there were tons of reporters around and they tend to snoop. But, it is possible Rove, who I am SURE was on the other end, was hiding in the rafters :laugh:

I doubt that it's just a free-for-all backstage. There are probably areas closed off for both camps to have privacy. All someone had to do was stay backstage in a secluded area and feed him lines, it's not hard or a stretch of the imagination. :laugh: Plus, he could have been wearing a transmitter and a receiver so that the person feeding him lines could hear what he was saying without the live delays.

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 10:55 AM
He may well be wearing one, but a vest will not make that kind of bump on his back. And if the WH wants to say he isn't wearing one, it just lends more credence to the belief that it was a receiver. ;)

Oh, I agree. :)

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 10:55 AM
It was not a mic. I love it when people try to put down the president by coming up with outlandish, liberal accusations. It rescinds the validity of your opinion. I don't think he would have made it on the stage with a "wire". That's just what I think.






PS..GO KERRY!

You think someone was gonna frisk W :shrug: Now frisky Bill probably would have wanted to be frisked when he debated (that sounds dirty doesn't it :laugh: ) - but I do not see Rove letting ANYONE touch the Pres. AND - notice they have denied the accusation but did not say it was not a device of some sort :shrug:

In sum, there is no other logical explanation for what appears to be a transmitter underneath his jacket.

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 10:57 AM
The only thing keeping me from being 100% sure (as opposed to 99.99% :laugh: ) is that why would the WH pick such a large one? Wouldn't they have access to far smaller ones and certainly the CIA, FBI, etc. have tiny ones. That just does not make sense to me. But, I think it is some type of device and his stammering lends creedence to someone talking in his ear while he is trying to talk.




Encryption.

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 10:59 AM
It was not a mic.
PS..GO KERRY!

No it wasn't. It was a receiver for his earpiece.

dissention
10-13-2004, 11:00 AM
Encryption.

And if the Kerry camp was smart, they'd have techies backstage interrupting the feed. :laugh: It ain't that hard if you know what you're doing.

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 11:02 AM
- but I do not see Rove letting ANYONE touch the Pres.



I don't see the president letting anyone touch him. :laugh:

dissention
10-13-2004, 11:07 AM
I don't see the president letting anyone touch him. :laugh:

I never thought I'd see you calling Bush "the president." :eek: :laugh:

Blasphemer!

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 11:10 AM
And if the Kerry camp was smart, they'd have techies backstage interrupting the feed. :laugh: It ain't that hard if you know what you're doing.

Maybe they did during the first debate. :shrug: Remember "Wait, let me finish" with 30 seconds still on the clock? :laugh:

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 11:12 AM
I never thought I'd see you calling Bush "the president." :eek: :laugh:

Blasphemer!

As his presidency comes to a close, I'm going to have to acknowledge that, yes, he was in fact president, no matter how he got there.

dissention
10-13-2004, 11:16 AM
Maybe they did during the first debate. :shrug: Remember "Wait, let me finish" with 30 seconds still on the clock? :laugh:

:laugh: Good point.

And when he asked if his time was up after using only 30 seconds of his two minute period. ;)

dissention
10-13-2004, 11:17 AM
As his presidency comes to a close, I'm going to have to acknowledge that, yes, he was in fact president, no matter how he got there.

I'd rather just refer to him as "the occupier." :laugh:

gldstwmn
10-13-2004, 05:33 PM
Interestingly, where was this person?

Just find out where Karen Hughes was. ;)

estranged4life
10-13-2004, 05:37 PM
maybe it's his brain in that box, but if that were true shouldnt it be even smaller???

Brian "I disapprove of Shrub's message" j.

strandinthewind
10-13-2004, 07:25 PM
As his presidency comes to a close, I'm going to have to acknowledge that, yes, he was in fact president, no matter how he got there.

Am I gonna have to have my "When the Supreme Court decides something it is the law" lecture again :laugh:

gldstwmn
10-14-2004, 12:56 AM
Am I gonna have to have my "When the Supreme Court decides something it is the law" lecture again :laugh:

Grrrr. Not unless you want to revisit Bush v. Gore again. I guess we could fight over equal protection again. :lol: :woohoo: