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gldstwmn
09-17-2004, 12:33 PM
President Bush has announced his plan to select Dr. W. David Hager to head
up the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) Reproductive Health Drugs
Advisory Committee.
This committee has not met for more than two years, during which time its
charter lapsed. As a result, the Bush Administration tasked with filling
all eleven positions with new members. This position does not require
Congressional approval.
The FDA's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee makes crucial
decisions on matters relating to drugs used in the practice of obstetrics,
gynecology and related specialties, including hormone therapy, contraception,
treatment for infertility, and medical alternatives to surgical procedures for sterilization and pregnancy termination.
Dr. Hager is the author of "As Jesus Cared for Women: Restoring Women Then
and Now." The book blends biblical accounts of Christ healing women with
case studies from Hager's practice. His views of reproductive health care are
far outside the mainstream for reproductive technology. Dr. Hager is a
practicing OB/GYN who describes himself as "pro-life" and refuses to prescribe contraceptives to unmarried women.
In the book Dr. Hager wrote with his wife, entitled "Stress and the Woman's Body," he suggests that women who suffer from premenstrual syndrome
should seek help from reading the bible and praying.
As an editor and contributing author of "The Reproduction Revolution: A
Christian Appraisal of Sexuality Reproductive Technologies and the
Family," Dr. Hager appears to have endorsed the medically inaccurate
assertion that the common birth control pill is an abortifacient.
We are concerned that Dr. Hager's strong religious beliefs may color his
assessment of technologies that are necessary to protect women's lives or
to preserve and promote women's health. Dr. Hager's track record of using
religious beliefs to guide his medical decision-making makes him a dangerous and inappropriate candidate to serve as chair of this committee. Critical drug public policy and research must not be held hostage by anti-abortion politics. Members of this important panel should be appointed on the basis of science and medicine, rather than politics and religion.
American women deserve no less.
There is something you can do. Below is a letter to be sent to the White
House, opposing the placement of Hager. Please copy all the text of this
email and paste it into a fresh email; then sign your name below and SEND THIS TO EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
Please forward e-mail to:

[email protected]

I oppose the appointment of Dr. W. David Hager to the FDA Reproductive
Health Drugs Advisory Committee. Mixing religion and medicine is
unacceptable in a policy-making position. Using the FDA to promote a political (and theological) agenda is inappropriate and seriously threatens women's
health. Members of this important panel should be appointed on the basis of science and medicine, rather than politics and religion.
American women deserve no less.

DeeGeMe
09-17-2004, 12:40 PM
I've been reading about this asshole. He's encouraged pharmacists not to dispense the "morning after" pill-even in cases of Rape. If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where they will outlaw all birth control pills and any form of contraceptives.

heyjupiter678
09-17-2004, 01:13 PM
If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where they will outlaw all birth control pills and any form of contraceptives.
Very, very true.

I've already forwarded the message to everyone in my address book. Thanks for posting it, gldstwmn.

Patti
09-17-2004, 01:24 PM
I will send this out to everyone in my address book as soon as I get home from work. I don't know why I am continually surprised by anything Dubya does, but I am. I cannot believe Kerry isn't kicking his ass in the polls.

Thanks for posting this, Chris.

dissention
09-17-2004, 03:32 PM
I've been reading about this asshole. He's encouraged pharmacists not to dispense the "morning after" pill-even in cases of Rape. If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where they will outlaw all birth control pills and any form of contraceptives.

He also said that rape was the fault of women, not men. He said that men are simply acting on their natural instincts to mate which, you guessed it, come from God. :rolleyes:

sparky
09-17-2004, 03:44 PM
Who's surprised ? Why not run that branch the same way Shrub runs the country ? I mean, honestly...let's just go full on theocracy. Pretty much the same way all the middle eastern countries are run. Just a different "holy text" as a guide. While we're at it, why don't we get Jimmy Swaggert, Jerry Falwell, and Billy Graham into cabinet positions ? I doubt they would make decisions any differently than the pack of reptilian kooks in there now. At least there would be truth in the advertising.

dissention
09-17-2004, 04:19 PM
let's just go full on theocracy.

I wasn't aware that we weren't already a theocracy. :shrug:

Johnny Stew
09-17-2004, 04:39 PM
If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where they will outlaw all birth control pills and any form of contraceptives.

If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves living even further under the thumb of men who have warped and twisted the Bible to support their own agendas and opinions.

Women's rights, civil rights, gay rights... they're ALL in danger.

gldstwmn
09-17-2004, 04:39 PM
Thanks to everyone who forwarded this and emailed it to the president. :thumbsup: Heyjupiter, I agree with you. When are people going to realize that Bush is crackers? That's why I try to do my (little) part in getting the word out. :wavey:

amber
09-17-2004, 04:44 PM
He also said that rape was the fault of women, not men. He said that men are simply acting on their natural instincts to mate which, you guessed it, come from God. :rolleyes:
one word"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!
(to be screamed in fear and terror, with an undercurrent of utter disbelief - if you're a method actor, imagine alien pod people just took over the world....)
Amber

strandinthewind
09-17-2004, 05:06 PM
If people don't wake up, we're going to find ourselves living even further under the thumb of men who have warped and twisted the Bible to support their own agendas and opinions.

Women's rights, civil rights, gay rights... they're ALL in danger.

And the new Gallop poll is 55 for W and 42 for Kerry (of likely voters) - sad - very true! :distress:

gldstwmn
09-17-2004, 06:40 PM
And the new Gallop poll is 55 for W and 42 for Kerry (of likely voters) - sad - very true! :distress:

Gallup also had Bush up 52 to 39 in October 2000. I wouldn't put any stock in Gallup. They want people to think Kerry can't win.

amber
09-17-2004, 06:49 PM
Gallup also had Bush up 52 to 39 in October 2000. I wouldn't put any stock in Gallup. They want people to think Kerry can't win.
I often totally distrust the media in the same fashion. Good call....
Amber

strandinthewind
09-17-2004, 07:12 PM
Gallup also had Bush up 52 to 39 in October 2000. I wouldn't put any stock in Gallup. They want people to think Kerry can't win.

Are you saying Gallup is biased? I thought they were neutral?

dissention
09-17-2004, 07:51 PM
Are you saying Gallup is biased? I thought they were neutral?

In the past two weeks, every other poll has been wildly different from Gallup.

strandinthewind
09-17-2004, 07:57 PM
In the past two weeks, every other poll has been wildly different from Gallup.

Well, Gallups was likely voters, whatever that means. Do all polls use the same standard. Is it people who have voted in the past, people who say in the poll that they are going to vote, etc.?

Also, that was the point of the poll, to show W is breaking away and that is why Kerry has begun a vigorous attack.

heyjupiter678
09-17-2004, 08:00 PM
In the past two weeks, every other poll has been wildly different from Gallup.
:nod: I believe the latest Harris poll has Kerry and Bush almost even.

dissention
09-17-2004, 08:11 PM
Well, Gallups was likely voters, whatever that means. Do all polls use the same standard. Is it people who have voted in the past, people who say in the poll that they are going to vote, etc.?

Also, that was the point of the poll, to show W is breaking away and that is why Kerry has begun a vigorous attack.

I'm not a polling expert, butpolling is pretty much crap to begin with. People don't tell the truth and twenty people who bull**** in polls can affect the outcome. If you were to look at current percentages of newly registered voters, it's obvious that Kerry is ahead.

strandinthewind
09-17-2004, 08:13 PM
I'm not a polling expert, butpolling is pretty much crap to begin with. People don't tell the truth and twenty people who bull**** in polls can affect the outcome. If you were to look at current percentages of newly registered voters, it's obvious that Kerry is ahead.


\Perhaps, but the media was saying the Gallop polls have been fairly accurate, etc. So, who knows. I guess we shall see what effect this has and its veracity in the next week or so.

gldstwmn
09-17-2004, 08:15 PM
Are you saying Gallup is biased? I thought they were neutral?

No, I'm saying they suck at polling. :laugh:

Johnny Stew
09-17-2004, 08:30 PM
No, I'm saying they suck at polling. :laugh:

There's an off-color joke in there somewhere, but I'm not even going to go there. ;) :laugh:

strandinthewind
09-17-2004, 09:30 PM
Latest presidential polls vary widely
Gallup, Pew Research polls get different results


(CNN) -- Two new national polls are giving widely divergent views as to whether President Bush's post-convention bounce has solidified or evaporated.

A Gallup Poll released Friday showed the president widening his lead over Kerry among likely voters to 13 percentage points, with 55 percent for Bush and 42 percent for Kerry.

The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. (Special report: America Votes 2004, poll tracker)

The race narrowed to 8 points among registered voters, with 52 percent choosing Bush and 44 percent picking Kerry.

The level of support for the president was the highest he has seen in the Gallup Poll since January, when he was enjoying a bump from the capture of Saddam Hussein.

Bush's job approval rating also rose to its highest level since April, with 52 percent saying they approved of his performance and 45 percent saying they did not.

However, a poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, released Thursday, showed the race between Bush and Kerry now a dead heat.

Among registered voters, the two candidates were tied at 46 percent in the Pew poll; among likely voters, Bush led by a statistically insignificant margin of 47 percent to 46 percent.

The margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

The Pew Center conducted two waves of polling over a seven-day period between September 8 and Tuesday.

In the first wave, Bush had a double-digit lead, but by the final wave of polling, the race had become a dead heat, indicating that the president's momentum had eroded.

The Gallup Poll, which showed no erosion of momentum, was conducted at roughly the same time as the second wave of polling done by the Pew Center.

Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/17/presidential.polls/index.html

dissention
09-18-2004, 09:45 AM
Latest presidential polls vary widely
Gallup, Pew Research polls get different results


(CNN) -- Two new national polls are giving widely divergent views as to whether President Bush's post-convention bounce has solidified or evaporated.

A Gallup Poll released Friday showed the president widening his lead over Kerry among likely voters to 13 percentage points, with 55 percent for Bush and 42 percent for Kerry.

The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. (Special report: America Votes 2004, poll tracker)

The race narrowed to 8 points among registered voters, with 52 percent choosing Bush and 44 percent picking Kerry.

The level of support for the president was the highest he has seen in the Gallup Poll since January, when he was enjoying a bump from the capture of Saddam Hussein.

Bush's job approval rating also rose to its highest level since April, with 52 percent saying they approved of his performance and 45 percent saying they did not.

However, a poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, released Thursday, showed the race between Bush and Kerry now a dead heat.

Among registered voters, the two candidates were tied at 46 percent in the Pew poll; among likely voters, Bush led by a statistically insignificant margin of 47 percent to 46 percent.

The margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

The Pew Center conducted two waves of polling over a seven-day period between September 8 and Tuesday.

In the first wave, Bush had a double-digit lead, but by the final wave of polling, the race had become a dead heat, indicating that the president's momentum had eroded.

The Gallup Poll, which showed no erosion of momentum, was conducted at roughly the same time as the second wave of polling done by the Pew Center.

Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/17/presidential.polls/index.html

And it doesn't even mention Rasmussen's daily tracking polls that show a dead-heat in the past week.