View Full Version : In the Meantime... Chart Position?
HejiraNYC
09-16-2004, 12:52 PM
Does anyone know how well ITM fared on the charts during its first week of release in the States? I sincerely hope she at least made it onto the Top 200 somewhere.
Gailh
09-16-2004, 01:22 PM
Does anyone know how well ITM fared on the charts during its first week of release in the States? I sincerely hope she at least made it onto the Top 200 somewhere.
It saddens me to say it but I doubt it.
Hopefully I will be proved wrong.
It would be nice to see a well produced, well written, well performed, well crafted album make an impression on the charts and show up all those god awful boy and girl bands where the ability to dance and lip sync is valued more than the ability to write, play and sing.
I have to agree with Ms Nicks on this "they should learn to write some decent songs and wear more clothes"
Gail
blinker12
09-16-2004, 05:13 PM
Looks like she didn't make the Top 200, but she did debut at #32 on the Independent Albums chart. This is from the newest edition of Billboard, which hits stands tomorrow.
I'm kinda surprised; I thought she'd turn up for at least a week or two on the Top 200.
Let's face it, she isn't one of those no-talent bimbos who diverts attention away from the lack of singing ability by touring and doing soft porn shows for 10 year olds. She keeps her clothes on and has class class CLASS!
This wonderful album may not chart, which would be icing on the cake but as Chris has already said she didn't expect it to do well and I don't think she is that concerned. No tour with simulated sex, no video with sex these days mean no album sales.
All that said the album DID do brisk sales on amazon.com. I kept my eyeball on it and the first week it stayed in the top 50. :)
macfan 57
09-16-2004, 06:04 PM
Let's face it, she isn't one of those no-talent bimbos who diverts attention away from the lack of singing ability by touring and doing soft porn shows for 10 year olds. She keeps her clothes on and has class class CLASS!
This wonderful album may not chart, which would be icing on the cake but as Chris has already said she didn't expect it to do well and I don't think she is that concerned. No tour with simulated sex, no video with sex these days mean no album sales.
All that said the album DID do brisk sales on amazon.com. I kept my eyeball on it and the first week it stayed in the top 50. :)
I agree with everything you said. I also don't think Christine is losing any sleep over this either. I noticed it did OK on Amazon, too, probably because Amazon has an older demographic. The album would have done better if you only counted those CD buyers over 30. :D It was even doing pretty decent business on iTunes last week also. And, keep in mind many of Christine's more ardent U.S. fans bought their copies from Amazon U.K. back in June. Those copies just won't get counted in the U.S. total.
diamondsnake
09-16-2004, 10:59 PM
If Say You Will was number three on the top two-hundred its first week and TISL made it somewhere in the top ten its first week then you would think Christine's new album would have at least made it on the list. That is really strange. How could the new Fleetwood Mac record have practically been number one but Christine wasn't even number two-hundred???!!!
I think not enough people knew about this album- I don't know this just seems odd to me.
jbrownsjr
09-16-2004, 11:24 PM
If Say You Will was number three on the top two-hundred its first week and TISL made it somewhere in the top ten its first week then you would think Christine's new album would have at least made it on the list. That is really strange. How could the new Fleetwood Mac record have practically been number one but Christine wasn't even number two-hundred???!!!
I think not enough people knew about this album- I don't know this just seems odd to me.
Yes you are correct. There's virtually no promotion and no tour. For SYW and TISL there was huge promotion. Plus FM and SNicks are big names. Christine is a smaller player. Doesn't like or want limelight, no tour not much publicity. It will sell over time, but nothing blockbuster, very low key.
Gailh
09-17-2004, 04:33 AM
In the Meantime was at one time up to 25 in the Amazon.co.uk chart but I think that was the die hard fans buying it (here and in the US)
After that without much publicity other than a few magazine interviews nobody would even know she had an album out.
Perhaps with a bit more radio play sales might improve.
Gail
HejiraNYC
09-17-2004, 12:01 PM
If Say You Will was number three on the top two-hundred its first week and TISL made it somewhere in the top ten its first week then you would think Christine's new album would have at least made it on the list. That is really strange. How could the new Fleetwood Mac record have practically been number one but Christine wasn't even number two-hundred???!!!
I think not enough people knew about this album- I don't know this just seems odd to me.
Personally I think these new indie "boutique" labels that cater to "legacy artists" are a sure sign of commercial death. These are labels like Sanctuary, Koch, CMC International, Artemis, etc. They're essentially useless because they do absolutely zippo, zero, nada promotion for their artists. Unless you are a hardcore fan of a particular artist, you would never know that there is a new album in stores. For example, artists like Pat Benatar, Heart, Styx, Boston and Yes have all released new albums within the past couple of years, but you would never know it. And I think only Boston, Heart and Yes may have charted on the lower rungs of the Billboard 200 for a split second before dropping off the chart entirely. At least FM and SN had somewhat of a promotional push thanks to Warner Bros.
But yes, I think we can all agree that it is a sad state of affairs with Christine's new album. You don't really have to sell that many albums- perhaps 2500 or so - to chart on the Billboard Top 200, so this is already pretty much a commercial flop. With all of the millions of people who saw FM on tour over the past couple of years, you would think that at least a tiny percentage would have been interested in a solo Christine album!
David
09-17-2004, 12:09 PM
But yes, I think we can all agree that it is a sad state of affairs with Christine's new album. You don't really have to sell that many albums- perhaps 2500 or so - to chart on the Billboard Top 200, so this is already pretty much a commercial flop. With all of the millions of people who saw FM on tour over the past couple of years, you would think that at least a tiny percentage would have been interested in a solo Christine album!It would have been nice & easy for Stevie to preface "Don't Stop" at any of the recent shows with, "Christine has a new album in the stores called In The Meantime. We miss you, Christine."
jbrownsjr
09-17-2004, 12:40 PM
It would have been nice & easy for Stevie to preface "Don't Stop" at any of the recent shows with, "Christine has a new album in the stores called In The Meantime. We miss you, Christine."
Indeed! .
diamondsnake
09-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Personally I think these new indie "boutique" labels that cater to "legacy artists" are a sure sign of commercial death. These are labels like Sanctuary, Koch, CMC International, Artemis, etc. They're essentially useless because they do absolutely zippo, zero, nada promotion for their artists. Unless you are a hardcore fan of a particular artist, you would never know that there is a new album in stores. For example, artists like Pat Benatar, Heart, Styx, Boston and Yes have all released new albums within the past couple of years, but you would never know it. And I think only Boston, Heart and Yes may have charted on the lower rungs of the Billboard 200 for a split second before dropping off the chart entirely. At least FM and SN had somewhat of a promotional push thanks to Warner Bros.
But yes, I think we can all agree that it is a sad state of affairs with Christine's new album. You don't really have to sell that many albums- perhaps 2500 or so - to chart on the Billboard Top 200, so this is already pretty much a commercial flop. With all of the millions of people who saw FM on tour over the past couple of years, you would think that at least a tiny percentage would have been interested in a solo Christine album!
I'm sure they would have been interested in her album, but they just don't know about it.
macfan 57
09-17-2004, 03:50 PM
With all of the millions of people who saw FM on tour over the past couple of years, you would think that at least a tiny percentage would have been interested in a solo Christine album!
You would think. It doesn't speak well of supposed "Fleetwood Mac" fans. Unfortunately, I think what's left of any Fleetwood Mac fan base are probably more fans of Stevie Nicks, rather than the rest of the band. Remember the Time album. And, alot of the older White Album/Rumours fans(who probably would like Christine's album)probably have no idea the album is even out there.
paleshadow
09-17-2004, 04:27 PM
It would have been nice & easy for Stevie to preface "Don't Stop" at any of the recent shows with, "Christine has a new album in the stores called In The Meantime. We miss you, Christine."
Why single Stevie out? Why not blame Mick, or even Lindsey? It would have been refreshing if Lindsey did say something different at at least one concert! :laugh:
jbrownsjr
09-17-2004, 04:47 PM
Because David knows there ain't a chance in hell LB would say anything about Christine's album. **** he's still getting over Bella Donna! :laugh:
ShangriLaTroubl
09-21-2004, 03:29 PM
While a large group of Mac fans are online fans...it's not that large of a group in the big scheme of things...the people who don't go to Mac websites, likely, had no idea about this album...I wouldve had no idea had I never been involved in the Mac online community...Say You Will was diff...there was a huge tour, with tix on sale before it's release....magazine articles...tv appearances...AOL huge promotion of the album...and everything..all added up...
Christine is not sad I'm sure, it's partly her fault...she has had no desire to really promote it herself...she chooses not to even do a small tour to promote it, has done no tv appearances for it yet...and like you said she didnt expect it to do much...it was just for us fans to enjoy
Chris
jbrownsjr
09-21-2004, 04:22 PM
While a large group of Mac fans are online fans...it's not that large of a group in the big scheme of things...the people who don't go to Mac websites, likely, had no idea about this album...I wouldve had no idea had I never been involved in the Mac online community...Say You Will was diff...there was a huge tour, with tix on sale before it's release....magazine articles...tv appearances...AOL huge promotion of the album...and everything..all added up...
Christine is not sad I'm sure, it's partly her fault...she has had no desire to really promote it herself...she chooses not to even do a small tour to promote it, has done no tv appearances for it yet...and like you said she didnt expect it to do much...it was just for us fans to enjoy
Chris
what you said!
misterbug
09-26-2004, 03:03 PM
No tour with simulated sex, no video with sex these days mean no album sales.
well, i don't recall jimmy buffet simulating sex on stage or film, yet his latest cd reached #1 i think. i think the actual explanation includes, as has been mention, the lack of touring & promotion, and chris's relatively unknown name (compared to stevie, for example). that's why stevie's solo albums and SYW debuted so well, yet in the meantime did not.
i agree that these little indie labels usually mean punky sales. they don't have the resources to launch a huge advertising campaign. so the albums are quietly released and languish on the shelves for awhile, bought only by people like us, until they are tossed into a discount bin.
also, people's attention spans are getting shorter and shorter--the buying public at large wants new things. so people like britney and jessica simpson will last awhile, selling millions of records, then peter out. on in the meantime, christine doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done before, even though she does it well for the most part. she was writing the same kind of songs on rumours, etc., and everybody already has those records. this is why perpetual innovators like bowie, dylan, prince, and madonna have been able to sustain their careers over decades with strong sales and widespread recognition throughout.
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