Best version of Rhiannon

[Gazza]

What's the best live version of Rhiannon that you know of? Where Stevie's vocals and Lindsey's guitar solo are just perfection for you?

[skcin]

Pretty much any performance from 1975/76 is excellent, IMO. I'm also a huge fan of the version on the Mirage Concert Video from 1982. As far as this tour goes, some shows seemed better than others; I like the Buffalo show & the Hershey shows best, I think, along with LIB.

Paula

[dissention]

My favorite is form the Live album. I loooooooooooooooover that one.

I really don't like the early versions very much, it's more screaming than singing.

And I really love the Live In Boston one, too. :nod:

[Sugar]

I never got why so many people like the Mirage video one. Her voice just sounds AWFUL! And the way she turns around at the end and just wraps herself in her shawl always makes me think that she knows it!

Ironically, I love what Lindsey's doing on that version, though...

Right now I'm really digging the version from LA Aug 29-30 (at least that's how I have it marked :laugh: ) 1977. I guess she was turning it on for LA! I love at the end when she just screams, "DREAMER...DREAMER...DREAMER"

[dissention]

I never got why so many people like the Mirage video one. Her voice just sounds AWFUL! And the way she turns around at the end and just wraps herself in her shawl always makes me think that she knows it!

:nod: She sounds terrible on EVERY song. Gypsy is mind-boggling bad.

[Sugar]

:nod: She sounds terrible on EVERY song. Gypsy is mind-boggling bad.

VERY true. But I like what she does on "The Chain" and GYOW and EOTW. And I have to admit that it IS my favorite version of SOTM. But yeah...that's about it... :laugh:

[AliceLover]

Hartford 87- She belts Nothing Ever Changes at the end and it one of my favorites.

Oakland 90- Last show of BTM tour so she was really on this night especially with lindsey making an appearance

Worcester 03- Excellent, excellent performance. "You still cry out for her, you still cry out for her, yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
(one of the best!)


Jimmy

[dissention]

VERY true. But I like what she does on "The Chain" and GYOW and EOTW. And I have to admit that it IS my favorite version of SOTM. But yeah...that's about it... :laugh:

That's my favorite version of The Chain, it's awesome. The band was really raw and wasn't as glossy as they are now; I loved it.

And of course I love SOTM. It's the definitive version. ;)

[Sugar]

That's my favorite version of The Chain, it's awesome. The band was really raw and wasn't as glossy as they are now; I loved it.

And of course I love SOTM. It's the definitive version. ;)

I think that's my favorite version of "The Chain", too. Then again that video was my introduction to FM, so there's a lot of love there! :)

And you're right about SOTM...the Tusk tour versions just lack the energy and electricity of the Mirage one (I'm listening to Melbourne right now :) ) and I think they ALL blow the album version out of the water! I can't wait to gun for that in the Survivor thread. I NEVER really dug the album version of that. Her vocals are too faint, and it never really goes anywhere. But that is (and I'm sure it is :laugh: ) JMO!

[ontheEdgeof17]

My favorite is from the Live album. I loooooooooooooooover that one.

I really don't like the early versions very much, it's more screaming than singing.

And I really love the Live In Boston one, too. :nod:


Wow. I agree 100%. :)


-Curt

[ontheEdgeof17]

That's my favorite version of The Chain, it's awesome. The band was really raw and wasn't as glossy as they are now; I loved it.

And of course I love SOTM. It's the definitive version. ;)


...and I totally agree again.....must be a blue moon or something tonight :]



One thing about the Mirage Chain is that it seems like Chris is not even there. The Stevie and Lindsey interaction is so thick you could cut it with a knife. I dunno if that is my favorite banter between them or Silver Springs.


-Curt

[wondergirl9847]

The Mirage video Chain is the best EVER. I cannot hear that version enough! I actually hurt my neck last week from headbanging to that!! LMAO!!!!!!

I can't NOT headbang, it's magical in it's rhythm and the solo is NUTS. That rhythm is insane!!

As for Rhiannon, I like the Live album version alot. Mirage video is okay and the Rosebud one is pretty good. I like her screaming and going nutsos.

[Cristian]

I think I like that Rosebud version better, where she could go crazy with the vocals and always get those notes right.

But I'm a big fan of the studio version anyway. I love it! I think those triple part harmonies in the chorus are just perfection, Lindsey's guitar is in perfect synch with Christine's electric piano (?) and Stevie's vocals are gorgeous as they were at that time.

[HomerMcvie]

Gypsy is mind-boggling bad.
Oh my gawd. That monotonal, droning first verse is absolutely dreadful. What was she thinking?

[David]

What's the best live version of Rhiannon that you know of?Tough question, but I usually think of a show in Irvine CA back in 1982 as being a genuine favorite of mine. I also love the spacy, languid Rhiannons of the 1978 tour, & the stretched-out forays into the Amerindian nether from the late Tusk Tour.

Someone else in the thread mentioned a December 1990 performance, & I nearly swallowed my tongue. To me, that must rank with the rankest of all time. If that aural & visual image were all I knew of Stevie Nicks, she'd be one of my most hated pop singers of all time.

[Alexbt]

I have different favorites, depending on what it is.

I like the studio album, but as we all know, it's quite different than what we hear live. It's all very mystical, but at that point the band hadn't really solidified what they wanted to play or sing (except John).

I would have to say that my favorite early lives of Rhiannon are from Midnight Special & what I think people keep referring to as a Rosebud version.

Well, I can definitely say the WORST one of Stevie singing I have heard is the one in the 77 Nagoya, Japan bootleg. She does some cool stuff at the end... and it's kinda sad cause it sounds like she's trying to hit the high stuff and she can't do it too much.

[David]

I think I like that Rosebud version better, where she could go crazy with the vocals and always get those notes right.It was always more fun to watch Stevie do her trip outdoors, in windy weather.
But I'm a big fan of the studio version anyway. I love it!I am, too, Christian. I think it's a beautiful, narcotizing track, very delicate yet very powerful.

[David]

:nod: She sounds terrible on EVERY song. Gypsy is mind-boggling bad.I thought Stevie's frayed vocals on that tour constitute, to this day, the most poignant live singing she's ever done. I remember how touched I was hearing it in person. It was a Stevie that, up until that time, I hadn't really known existed.

[skcin]

I never got why so many people like the Mirage video one. Her voice just sounds AWFUL! And the way she turns around at the end and just wraps herself in her shawl always makes me think that she knows it!



I think the "I don't change, you don't change..." lines do it for me. :nod:

Paula

[Sugar]

I think the "I don't change, you don't change..." lines do it for me. :nod:

Paula

Probably the best part...But when she starts to belt out the "Dreams unwind/ still it's a state of mind" bit right before that...OI! I just want to run up to her with a cup of hot tea and lemon and say, "Drink, baby...just drink." :laugh:

[sodascouts]

One thing about the Mirage Chain is that it seems like Chris is not even there. The Stevie and Lindsey interaction is so thick you could cut it with a knife. I dunno if that is my favorite banter between them or Silver Springs.


-Curt

And how about that full-body lean from behind Lindsey does on Stevie for SOTM as they move up and down together? HOT HOT HOT.

My fave Rhiannon: Rockhoppers. They both excel and they know it - Lindsey even yells "YEAH!!!" at the end.

[EnchantedSLN]

Rosebud is the quintessential version for me. I also love the Las Vegas 8-25-77 performance.

[celestenadia]

I never heard any other "Rhiannon" besides the studio one until I got the Live album. What a difference! For that simple reason the "80 Live" one is always a favorite of mine. That was before I heard what is know as the Capitol Theatre/King Biscuit version from an earlier tour.
Even MORE of a difference. She was just so RAW back then! Then of course there are Stevie's solo versions, but I won't touch on them since this is the Rumours board:)

[markolas]

I'm not a big fan of the studio version. I enjoy her latter-day performances (The Dance and Live in Boston) better than the earlier ones.

[Johnny Stew]

My all-time favorite is the 'Rosebud' version.

Other favorite versions... The Midnight Special, Wallingford CT 1976 (at Trod Nossel Studios), 'Live' album, 'Stevie Nicks: In Concert,' 1994 House Of Blues ('Welcome To My World'), 'Storytellers' and 'Live In Boston.'

Oh, yeah, and I love the radio remix.

[Claudia]

Yes, the 'Rosebud' version is great, probably my favourite. I like the versions from the 'early' days where she would go crazy better. :p

[SillyDreamer]

Yes, yes, Rosebud, Rockhoppers, Midnight Special, Live 80, blah blah blah.

All awesome performances. None bring fresh debate to the table.

I would like to contend that the best performance of Rhiannon in that last 20 years has been Live at The House of Blues 1994. Yes, The Street Angel Tour!

It has an extended intro not remarkably dissimilar to that of the Dance Tour. The actual body of the song, aside from Stevie taking a lot more liberties vocally, is not overly distinguishable. And yes, Lindsey is not playing guitar. Tear.

However, the ending, beginning with "Dreams unwind..." is all sung the EXACT same way as it had been nearly 20 years before! There is less screaming, but the DREAMS UNWIND, STILL IT'S A STATE OF MIND etc. etc. are all done on that high G or whatever it is, I used to know it. The note that Stevie sings a full octave lower these days. It's crazy. When I first heard it, I hadn't thought she had been able to hit those notes since at least 1982. And here she was, singing Live 80 all over again. The very end manages to stay in her upper register, never dipping to the depths it saw during The Dance or SYW Tour, yet still captures "Whooaaa.. you still cry out to her, and he says, don't leave me, DON'T leave me........." It works very well high, and makes me wish she never got lazy.

Another gem from this performance is Stand Back, which I believe to be the definitive version. Again, she's not afraid to take all the chances, even some we'd never heard. What a groundbreaking concert!

[Gazza]

Hasn't been mentionned yet, but I really like the Sin City version. After the guitar solo, Stevie does this really sexy "ah-ah, ah-ah-ah-ah" thing, and then the big note she hits on the final "dreams unwind love's a state mind!" is just spine-tingling.

[Vianna]

House of Blues is a killer version of Rhiannon! I love it.

I like the longer version better regardless. Love the silly dreamer try hard you can't leave her part so much...

[diamondsnake]

Can someone post this "Rosebud" version and maybe the Mirage concert video version on their site? I have never heard either of these... out of the ones I have heard I love the Live Album version and the Live in Boston Version.

[GODDESS6]

i love the live album version 2, also the real early version where she is screaming like a mad woman~

brightest stevie blessings~
jill

[amber]

Well, I can definitely say the WORST one of Stevie singing I have heard is the one in the 77 Nagoya, Japan bootleg. She does some cool stuff at the end... and it's kinda sad cause it sounds like she's trying to hit the high stuff and she can't do it too much.
I think I just got the Nagoya version on video, and i love it! If it's the one that i'm thinking of with the perfect halo of curls where there is a lot of ahowahowahowaowahowahowhaowhaowhaowhaowhaohwaohwo!!!!!, in a sort of off but on key rad way...
Amber

[blinker12]

I would like to contend that the best performance of Rhiannon in that last 20 years has been Live at The House of Blues 1994. Yes, The Street Angel Tour!

Yes... *sighs happily*
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I love the Street Angel tour. Stevie was singing with a renewed passion and hitting notes she hadn't gone near in years. I think it's because she realized she had something to prove back then, to win back her fans' respect after five years of lazy vocal performances. Now, she's gotten a little lazy again.

[Sorceress]

I think I just got the Nagoya version on video, and i love it! If it's the one that i'm thinking of with the perfect halo of curls where there is a lot of ahowahowahowaowahowahowhaowhaowhaowhaowhaohwaohwo!!!!!, in a sort of off but on key rad way...
Amber

Yes, I love that version too. So trippy, with that moaning and Lindsey's guitar behind her. For techinal merit, no, but for psychedellic sexual energy, you bet.

[Livia]

My all time fave is the "I just bought a curling iron" Midnight Special one. I love the close-up of her face - some great "all the sa-ame" wailings there too....

My second fave is the Japan one!! :)

My third fave would be the B/N live version! :D

[strandinthewind]

My all time fave is the "I just bought a curling iron" Midnight Special one. I love the close-up of her face - some great "all the sa-ame" wailings there too....

My second fave is the Japan one!! :)

My third fave would be the B/N live version! :D


Yep - ITA

Although I might put the HOB S.A. one in there as she went off in it for what seemingly was the last time on that one!!!!!!

[amber]

And how about that full-body lean from behind Lindsey does on Stevie for SOTM as they move up and down together? HOT HOT HOT.


:nod:
I just watched that again last night - sexiest moment ever...well, it's up there!
AMber

[Wild_Heart03]

My all time favorite would have to definitely be the "Midnight Special" version... Stevie's vocals just rock in that one, and Christine's little piano solo totally blew me away.

[amber]

Yes, I love that version too. So trippy, with that moaning and Lindsey's guitar behind her. For techinal merit, no, but for psychedellic sexual energy, you bet.
Exactly - perfect description :thumbsup: mmmmmm, psychedelic sexual energy..*drool* :laugh:
AMber

[shackin'up]

My third fave would be the B/N live version! :D

Good one! Almost forgot that one because it came to my ears so recently!
Well I'm going for that compact short one full of energy.

[golddustwoman77]

I thought that this was a really tough question, but a very good one! :D I had to think on it a few days.

(1)Fleetwood Mac--Live in Passaic 1975. My all-time favorite. It has the Welsh Witch intro, which is neat. She hits all those notes perfectly. She is just so "into it," and I think this version especially highlights that era of Rhiannon. The guitar solo is great. I love the ummmmmmmmmm's before she does "Dreams Unwind~~Love's a State of Mind." I love the yell at the end. Perfection all the way around!

Here are some others I really like, as well. I like each of these for different reasons, but I'll save you guys the blabbing and just list these :D :

Stevie Nicks---9/17/94 Hollywood, CA "Welcome to My World;"
Stevie Nicks--"Dreamer" (complication from "White Wing Dove Tour and "Wild Heart Tour);
Fleetwood Mac-Shine Angel from St. Louis 1979 and Oakland 1982; and
Fleetwood Mac---Dancing Alone--(It is a live, Dance era version, but her vocals are really up front on this track.).

If I could pick a favorite studio version, I would have to go with the Single Mix, which is on Fleetwood Mac B-sides and More Disc 1. It is just fabulous! :D

[sparky]

Yes, yes, Rosebud, Rockhoppers, Midnight Special, Live 80, blah blah blah.

All awesome performances. None bring fresh debate to the table.

I would like to contend that the best performance of Rhiannon in that last 20 years has been Live at The House of Blues 1994. Yes, The Street Angel Tour!

It has an extended intro not remarkably dissimilar to that of the Dance Tour. The actual body of the song, aside from Stevie taking a lot more liberties vocally, is not overly distinguishable. And yes, Lindsey is not playing guitar. Tear.

However, the ending, beginning with "Dreams unwind..." is all sung the EXACT same way as it had been nearly 20 years before! There is less screaming, but the DREAMS UNWIND, STILL IT'S A STATE OF MIND etc. etc. are all done on that high G or whatever it is, I used to know it. The note that Stevie sings a full octave lower these days. It's crazy. When I first heard it, I hadn't thought she had been able to hit those notes since at least 1982. And here she was, singing Live 80 all over again. The very end manages to stay in her upper register, never dipping to the depths it saw during The Dance or SYW Tour, yet still captures "Whooaaa.. you still cry out to her, and he says, don't leave me, DON'T leave me........." It works very well high, and makes me wish she never got lazy.

Another gem from this performance is Stand Back, which I believe to be the definitive version. Again, she's not afraid to take all the chances, even some we'd never heard. What a groundbreaking concert!


I hate to break it to you, but that end part is all a studio overdub.
I went to the show the night before the taping, and her voice was pretty ragged. I was also there the night of the taping in question, and it was being simulcast on a local radio station - KLSX if my memory serves me correctly. I taped that live broadcast and it was dismal. Her voice was in terrible shape.
Every offical ''recording" with those strong high notes that I have heard gives itself away quickly. If you listen closely, you can hear that she is singing over a very low volume track of her original vocal. They were either too lazy to take it off or her vocal wasn't recorded on a separate track.

I agree it is a good version - but a live version it wasn't. There were some great renditions of Rhainnon on that tour. I saw the tour 7 or 8 times. But none of them were nearly as strong as that studio overdub. Not even close.

For the record, my favorite versions of this song were from the Tusk tour. Like I have said many times, the song now needs to be retired. I no longer like it. It's essentially a fluid break for me.

[dreamongypsydkm]

I too like the Rosebud version, with the little intro about the novel and all. The performance is very good.
I also loved Rhiannon this tour, especially in Bakersfield Oct. 15 2003.

[strandinthewind]

I hate to break it to you, but that end part is all a studio overdub.
I went to the show the night before the taping, and her voice was pretty ragged. I was also there the night of the taping in question, and it was being simulcast on a local radio station - KLSX if my memory serves me correctly. I taped that live broadcast and it was dismal. Her voice was in terrible shape.
Every offical ''recording" with those strong high notes that I have heard gives itself away quickly. If you listen closely, you can hear that she is singing over a very low volume track of her original vocal. They were either too lazy to take it off or her vocal wasn't recorded on a separate track.

I agree it is a good version - but a live version it wasn't. There were some great renditions of Rhainnon on that tour. I saw the tour 7 or 8 times. But none of them were nearly as strong as that studio overdub. Not even close.

For the record, my favorite versions of this song were from the Tusk tour. Like I have said many times, the song now needs to be retired. I no longer like it. It's essentially a fluid break for me.

I know - apprently, that GORGEOUS version of Destiny was overdubbed as well!!!!!!!!!!! So, I guess it really does not count :sorry:

[sparky]

I know - apprently, that GORGEOUS version of Destiny was overdubbed as well!!!!!!!!!!! So, I guess it really does not count :sorry:

LOL. I never made it that far into the show on the recording...or I skipped it. After about the second date on that tour, Destiny became my fluid break. Which is, incidentally, when I saw the famous 'drag queens run out the men's room incident' in Vegas. Priceless !

[strandinthewind]

LOL. I never made it that far into the show on the recording...or I skipped it. After about the second date on that tour, Destiny became my fluid break. Which is, incidentally, when I saw the famous 'drag queens run out the men's room incident' in Vegas. Priceless !

DETAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sparky]

DETAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHA.

It wasn't that dramatic. Me and my buddy were off for our regular 'Destiny' beer/bathroom break. We got near the Aladdin Men's room and there was quite a ruckus. Lots of yelling and swearing. Then two Towering Inferno Glamazons exploded out the Men's room entrance in a flurry of blonde wigs, chiffon, and fringes a flying. The presentation on both was complete with platforms. Each was nearly 7 feet tall. This was a notable occasion for me as it was the first time I had seen guys in Stevie drag at a show. Also, it was the first time I noticed that the audience was so ultra homo skewed. My buddy and I both said that night, "We thought we were the only gay guys into Stevie !" Au contraire. It was like a friggin gay parade in that joint. If you would have taken out all of us homos and the BBW's, that place would have been 1/3 full. :lol:

[David]

LOL. I never made it that far into the show on the recording...or I skipped it. After about the second date on that tour, Destiny became my fluid break.Well, that's unfortunate there, sparky, because the Vegas performance of "Destiny" was one of the two best on the entire tour (the other being Holmdel, New Jersey).

"Destiny" was fantastic throughout, though. It featured some of the best ensemble harmony singing Stevie & her friends have ever done live. They were perfectly on key, clear & strong. It was a Stevie Maalox Moment.

I had been out of the collecting dodge for many years by 1994, but it was really Stevie's singing -- especially on "Destiny" -- that revved me up again & made me buy a Goldmine magazine just to get started in the trading once again, primarily because I wanted tapes from the Street Angel shows. So Stevie's really responsible for giving me my second wind as a collecting fan! (Of course, it was Stevie who was responsible for my calling it quits to begin with.)

[strandinthewind]

. . . two Towering Inferno Glamazons exploded out the Men's room entrance in a flurry of blonde wigs, chiffon, and fringes a flying. The presentation on both was complete with platforms. Each was nearly 7 feet tall.


BBBWWWHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Oh to have been there!!!!!!!! :cool:

[amber]

(Of course, it was Stevie who was responsible for my calling it quits to begin with.)
How?
AMber

[sparky]

Well, that's unfortunate there, sparky, because the Vegas performance of "Destiny" was one of the two best on the entire tour (the other being Holmdel, New Jersey).

"Destiny" was fantastic throughout, though. It featured some of the best ensemble harmony singing Stevie & her friends have ever done live. They were perfectly on key, clear & strong. It was a Stevie Maalox Moment.


I don't doubt it was a nice version of the song. Alas, the song itself is a
Pepto or Milk of Mag moment for me. :shrug:

[David]

How?
AMberI was a really sicko fan from about '77 to about '87. I collected all the concerts on tape; catalogued & archived everything; went to all the shows in my home state of CA; communicated extensively with the network of American fans; tracked down newspapers, magazines & other print media like the mad dog I was; bought books, photos & records at swap meets & conventions; scoured the classified ads for memorabilia, etc. etc. etc. On the 1987 tour, Stevie started to stink. 1989 was a snoozer tour, too, & 1991 was foul. By that time I was totally sick of Stevie's gassed-out sound & look. Plus, the rest of Fleetwood Mac had transformed into a generic cock-rock outfit, a pickup band. But it was really Stevie who burned me out on Fleetwood Mac for many years; & then all those horrible fans started flocking to her, writing fanzines, singing her praises & doing some pretty dastardly things to other fans. The whole scene was a turnoff, & the public scorn that hounded the band at that point didn't help any.

But then the Street Angel Tour comes along -- nobody's expecting anything other than another Timespace Tour debacle from Stevie -- & blows me away. That's an exaggeration, but it was a shock to hear Stevie sing wonderfully again. So I advertised in Goldmine for concert recordings, & sort of got back into the swing of things.

[amber]

I was a really sicko fan from about '77 to about '87. I collected all the concerts on tape; catalogued & archived everything; went to all the shows in my home state of CA; communicated extensively with the network of American fans; tracked down newspapers, magazines & other print media like the mad dog I was; bought books, photos & records at swap meets & conventions; scoured the classified ads for memorabilia, etc. etc. etc. On the 1987 tour, Stevie started to stink. 1989 was a snoozer tour, too, & 1991 was foul. By that time I was totally sick of Stevie's gassed-out sound & look. Plus, the rest of Fleetwood Mac had transformed into a generic cock-rock outfit, a pickup band. But it was really Stevie who burned me out on Fleetwood Mac for many years; & then all those horrible fans started flocking to her, writing fanzines, singing her praises & doing some pretty dastardly things to other fans. The whole scene was a turnoff, & the public scorn that hounded the band at that point didn't help any.

But then the Street Angel Tour comes along -- nobody's expecting anything other than another Timespace Tour debacle from Stevie -- & blows me away. That's an exaggeration, but it was a shock to hear Stevie sing wonderfully again. So I advertised in Goldmine for concert recordings, & sort of got back into the swing of things.
Wow, that story made me sad...I didn't know the Timespace tour was such a debacle. Though i understand "before" stevie compared with "more recent" Stevie. Wow, glad you're back. I live in CA, too. I don't know why i said that.... :p
AMber

[AliceLover]

Timespace was NOT that bad IMO. She did some great songs.

-both hits from OSOTM
-IF ANYONE FALLS
-Introduced the Stand Back kick
-Amazing version of Edge of Seventeen
-I Need to Know never rocked any harder
-Changed almost every song
-Rhiannon brought back memories of Rosebud days!
-Landslide was awesome especially with the backup singers


Jimmy

[dissention]

I hate to break it to you, but that end part is all a studio overdub.
I went to the show the night before the taping, and her voice was pretty ragged. I was also there the night of the taping in question, and it was being simulcast on a local radio station - KLSX if my memory serves me correctly. I taped that live broadcast and it was dismal. Her voice was in terrible shape.
Every offical ''recording" with those strong high notes that I have heard gives itself away quickly. If you listen closely, you can hear that she is singing over a very low volume track of her original vocal. They were either too lazy to take it off or her vocal wasn't recorded on a separate track.

I agree it is a good version - but a live version it wasn't. There were some great renditions of Rhainnon on that tour. I saw the tour 7 or 8 times. But none of them were nearly as strong as that studio overdub. Not even close.


Darling, the whole show was overdubbed. Listen to the unedited radio broadcast, then the Westwood One broadcast and they are two totally different beasts, the latter being almost all studio overdubs.

[dissention]

Timespace was NOT that bad IMO. She did some great songs.

-both hits from OSOTM
-IF ANYONE FALLS
-Introduced the Stand Back kick
-Amazing version of Edge of Seventeen
-I Need to Know never rocked any harder
-Changed almost every song
-Rhiannon brought back memories of Rosebud days!
-Landslide was awesome especially with the backup singers


Jimmy

Oh, I thought Timespace was the pits. Really, really awful. She was not into in the least, her voice was really shot, the synth-heavy songs were too much to handle, the costumes were horrific, she looked haggard, it was just terrible.

I'm with David in that the Street Angel tour BLEW ME AWAY. To me, that's quite possibly her best tour. :nod:

[AliceLover]

Oh, I thought Timespace was the pits. Really, really awful. She was not into in the least, her voice was really shot, the synth-heavy songs were too much to handle, the costumes were horrific, she looked haggard, it was just terrible.

I'm with David in that the Street Angel tour BLEW ME AWAY. To me, that's quite possibly her best tour. :nod:


Dissetion I agree when i traded for my first SA bootleg Video i was blown away. i thought it was incredible. Street angel is my 2nd or 3rd fav tour from her. Stand back was awesome with her white wings. and I really enjoyed the top hat for I Need to Know. Talk to Me was also excellent!

Jimmy

[sparky]

Darling, the whole show was overdubbed. Listen to the unedited radio broadcast, then the Westwood One broadcast and they are two totally different beasts, the latter being almost all studio overdubs.

Darling, I have both of them. I couldn't stomach the concert when I was there. I think the only time in recent memory that I have heard anything from the overdubbed show has been from downloading the Rhiannon's that circulate endlessly...fooling all and sundry that they were original vocals. The fact that I can't ever remember hearing the whole Westwood One show is a sign that
a) I have too many bootleg cassette tapes
b) I have been far too busy since 1994
c) At one time I had WAY too much time on my hands - going to a concert and simultaneously taping the show off the radio with a cassette player.
:laugh:

[skcin]

Timespace was NOT that bad IMO. She did some great songs.

-both hits from OSOTM
-IF ANYONE FALLS
-Introduced the Stand Back kick
-Amazing version of Edge of Seventeen
-I Need to Know never rocked any harder
-Changed almost every song
-Rhiannon brought back memories of Rosebud days!
-Landslide was awesome especially with the backup singers


Jimmy

Yes, the setlist was great. BUT Stevie was not great vocally for that tour. There's a few shows that are decent, but generally, not her best performances, IMO.

As far as the Welcome to my World unedited, yes, the voice is rough & scratchy at times. BUT she still belted every song out tremendously, despite the fact that she was ill. I think it's a great performance, with or without the overdubs.

Paula

[David]

Yes, the setlist was great. BUT Stevie was not great vocally for that tour. There's a few shows that are decent, but generally, not her best performances, IMO.Of the shows I saw & all the shows I've heard from 1991, I'd say that Irvine Meadows was the best night vocally for Stevie. But most of the other shows were embarrassments: Dallas, Wantagh, Holmdel, the pro-shot video from Mountain View, the show at the Whiskey, etc. And that band of hers that year . . . God help. They had all the personality & finesse of a runaway train with tin cans tied to the caboose. The band comprised the worst elements of AOR muscle rock like Heart & Poison -- loud, vapid & shlocky. And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

[dissention]

Of the shows I saw & all the shows I've heard from 1991, I'd say that Irvine Meadows was the best night vocally for Stevie. But most of the other shows were embarrassments: Dallas, Wantagh, Holmdel, the pro-shot video from Mountain View, the show at the Whiskey, etc. And that band of hers that year . . . God help. They had all the personality & finesse of a runaway train with tin cans tied to the caboose. The band comprised the worst elements of AOR muscle rock like Heart & Poison -- loud, vapid & shlocky. And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

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I totally agree.

But you should have seen her at the Boston show. ;) I was expecting her to just fall over and die from boredom. Quite possibly the worst I've ever seen her. She sang as if she was snoring simultaneously. She kept looking over to the side as if she was trying to get a look at the clock to see if it was time to go back to bed yet. I got the audio boot for it a few months ago finally and it had a pre-show interview with her where she was really energetic and talkative (only like five minutes before she was to go onstage). Whatever happened in those five minutes, I guess I'll never know.

[AliceLover]

Of the shows I saw & all the shows I've heard from 1991, I'd say that Irvine Meadows was the best night vocally for Stevie. But most of the other shows were embarrassments: Dallas, Wantagh, Holmdel, the pro-shot video from Mountain View, the show at the Whiskey, etc. And that band of hers that year . . . God help. They had all the personality & finesse of a runaway train with tin cans tied to the caboose. The band comprised the worst elements of AOR muscle rock like Heart & Poison -- loud, vapid & shlocky. And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.


DAVID!!!

Dallas and Holmdel are cirrculating????????????????????
Id love to get my hands on those. But as i see you are like an expert on bootlegs so im sure you have lots of goodies!

Jimmy

[David]

DAVID!!!

Dallas and Holmdel are cirrculating????????????????????
Id love to get my hands on those.
JIMMY!!!

Check it out!! I think most of the tour is recorded -- fifteen or twenty shows at least. Check on some of the trader rings like the Underground. You'll probably find your favorites!

[AliceLover]

David are you serious?

The most ive seen is about 8 shows on major trade pages.

Do you have any info on Other Side of the Mirror shows that you could give me. I do kno a good number of them were recorded.

Thanks,
Jimmy

[amber]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I totally agree.

But you should have seen her at the Boston show. ;) I was expecting her to just fall over and die from boredom. Quite possibly the worst I've ever seen her. She sang as if she was snoring simultaneously. She kept looking over to the side as if she was trying to get a look at the clock to see if it was time to go back to bed yet. I got the audio boot for it a few months ago finally and it had a pre-show interview with her where she was really energetic and talkative (only like five minutes before she was to go onstage). Whatever happened in those five minutes, I guess I'll never know.
:laugh:
Lindsey made her mad? there weren't the right number of streamers on her mic? There weren't enough cameras there to warrant going all out? She overindulged in crab cakes before the show, and it caught up with her? She took a puff off a doob? she couldn't breathe in her tight-a** corset? She wanted to "let her boobs do the talking"? :laugh:
AMber

[David]

David are you serious? The most ive seen is about 8 shows on major trade pages. Do you have any info on Other Side of the Mirror shows that you could give me. I do kno a good number of them were recorded.I'm the wrong guy to ask about tapes from these years, but there are a lot of them out there. There's even some video, like the 1991 Jones Beach show & the 1989 Los Angeles show at the Greek Theatre. I think there's even some video of the 1989 Toronto show with "Talk to Me" or "Juliet," as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert -- in retrospect, I should have gone to class). Plus, there is audio from some of the 1989 European dates, including Paris (the Paris show I remember because it's a good clear recording with plenty of treble & bass). You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.

[AliceLover]

as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert

Wow I am very interested in this!

You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.[/QUOTE]


Yes David got both of these and they are both outstanding to me. I went into that trade web ring thing and i found an excellent site hopefully ill be getting an email soon!

Jimmy

[The Tower]

And Stevie herself -- flat, toneless gabbling, dressed like a female impersonator's idea of Mae West (someone I know once said she dressed like an African-American woman going to Sunday church in Biloxi in 1955).

I call it Stevie's NASCAR year.

What the f**k was up with those hair extensions that she had paper-clipped to her temples?!?!

With all the yanking and pulling and caressing she did with those thangs, I'm surprised they didn't fall off!

[David]

I hate to break it to you, but that end part is all a studio overdub.Another thread on the Stevie board reminded me. Did you guys know that the "Stand Back" & "Leather & Lace" from Oakland '83 were vocal redubs, too? I think "Beauty & the Beast" from that broadcast was authentic, but the other two were phony! Good vocals, but phony.

[strandinthewind]

What the f**k was up with those hair extensions that she had paper-clipped to her temples?!?!

With all the yanking and pulling and caressing she did with those thangs, I'm surprised they didn't fall off!

Then there was that whole Arsenio Hall appearance in that time period. When she wiped that fake tear with a vacant expression at the end of Love's a Hard Game to Play - well some things are better left unsaid :cool:

[dissention]

I'm the wrong guy to ask about tapes from these years, but there are a lot of them out there. There's even some video, like the 1991 Jones Beach show & the 1989 Los Angeles show at the Greek Theatre. I think there's even some video of the 1989 Toronto show with "Talk to Me" or "Juliet," as well as the video from the Cal Expo show in Sacramento (I skipped a graduate seminar to attend that concert -- in retrospect, I should have gone to class). Plus, there is audio from some of the 1989 European dates, including Paris (the Paris show I remember because it's a good clear recording with plenty of treble & bass). You probably already have the two pro-shot videos -- 1989 & 1991 -- both shot at Shoreline Amphitheatre.

That Toronto video is painful. It's so out of focus and blurry that she just looks like a blob. Greek Theatre is better, but she's immobile...sort of like that hair of hers.

[AliP]

Sorry to bring this thread out of retirement, but I was just reading the BN board where someone was asking about a live performance of Rhiannon where she screams "Is that what you want from me" or something to that effect. I guess Mick talked about it in his book. Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but I've already searched the threads for about an hour looking for it. So anyway...does anyone know what performance this is from? Also does anyone know what performance it was that her voice cracked really bad on Rhiannon that Mick also talks about in his book? Thanks!

[David]

Sorry to bring this thread out of retirement, but I was just reading the BN board where someone was asking about a live performance of Rhiannon where she screams "Is that what you want from me" or something to that effect. I guess Mick talked about it in his book. Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but I've already searched the threads for about an hour looking for it. So anyway...does anyone know what performance this is from?That's just a vocal vamp that she threw in a bunch of Rhiannons on the last month of the 1980 tour. If you can find any of those August shows (Mobile soundboard, Hollywood Bowl #1 or #2, Lakeland, Tucson, Birmingham, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc.), you'll hear Stevie sing "Is that what you want?" in a couple of different ways. The best sound quality recording is the Mobile soundboard. Tiff posted it a few months ago.

Mick makes it sound as if it happened once, but Stevie did it for weeks.

[AliP]

That's just a vocal vamp that she threw in a bunch of Rhiannons on the last month of the 1980 tour. If you can find any of those August shows (Mobile soundboard, Hollywood Bowl #1 or #2, Lakeland, Tucson, Birmingham, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc.), you'll hear Stevie sing "Is that what you want?" in a couple of different ways. The best sound quality recording is the Mobile soundboard. Tiff posted it a few months ago.

Mick makes it sound as if it happened once, but Stevie did it for weeks.


Ok, thanks David! I have several of those shows so I will have to take a listen. :) Do you know anything about the ones where her voice cracks really bad?