View Full Version : What song would you choose for the SYW album title?
Villavic
08-19-2004, 06:08 PM
Can't remember if this was already asked.
Say you will is a cool single, though it's the less mystic Stevie song I have hear. Mystic, dark, mistrerious is usually a Stevie style (Sisters of the moon, Sara, GDW..).
Does anybody know why they choose this song for the album title?
And.. what song from the album would you have chosen for the album title?
My choice could be between Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden.
By the way, does anybody know why they choose Tango in the night for that album title?
amber
08-19-2004, 06:14 PM
I think I might choose Steal Your Heart Away :) Although in my mind that would be a hard choice.
AMber
sands of time
08-19-2004, 06:22 PM
come :eek:
EveryHour
08-19-2004, 06:24 PM
Hmm...I would tend to guess SYW was chosen as the title because it was seen as a "strong song" and/or because of the subject matter: "It always seems to heal the wounds if I can get you to dance". The song has a feel of optimism in the future of FM to me. If another song were to be the title, it would HAVE to be Destiny Rules. Though I "get" why SYW was chosen based on the song, I think DR is a much better title standing alone, and very appropriate for FM. I think someone before has suggested a good title would have been Twist Of Fate, and I think that is excellent, especially with Stevie and Lindsey returning to their B/N dynamic.
I've never heard a specific account of why TITN was named so. I think it's a good album title and sticks with that "mysticism" that we expect from the band.
MacMan
08-19-2004, 06:37 PM
I was just thining about this yesterday.... I was wondering if there was a few songs put up as contenders and a band vote!
I like Say You Will.. Althou Destiny Rules is good too.. They should have or could have done "What's the World Coming To" and that would have been kind of funny in a way.
sodascouts
08-19-2004, 06:42 PM
"Destiny Rules" seems most fitting to me.
dissention
08-19-2004, 07:04 PM
Come
Destiny Rules is too hokey, IMO.
rezamatic
08-19-2004, 08:06 PM
It seems to me that "Destiny Rules" makes the most sense, because it's the whole 'holy crap they still managed to get back together and record an album' notion. The idea of endurance, that destiny does rule and that this band lives on.
...sounds like a VH1 promo...
All I know for sure is that "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" is probably the worst choice out of them all :-) What a weird album title that would have been.
MacMan
08-19-2004, 08:08 PM
It seems to me that "Destiny Rules" makes the most sense, because it's the whole 'holy crap they still managed to get back together and record an album' notion. The idea of endurance, that destiny does rule and that this band lives on.
For the same reason I suggested "What's The World Coming To"... In a tongue in cheek kind of way :laugh:
ontheEdgeof17
08-19-2004, 08:10 PM
What's The World Coming To is a good title. Little too long to put in that little box in the corner during music videos. Oh wait, they don't make videos.
-Curtis
diamondsnake
08-19-2004, 08:13 PM
Running Through the Garden sounds mystical and beautiful if you ask me!
Ummm, Destiny Rules sounds sort of cheesy if you haven't heard how beautiful and catchy the song is...
diamondsnake
08-19-2004, 08:14 PM
What's The World Coming To is a good title. Little too long to put in that little box in the corner during music videos. Oh wait, they don't make videos.
-Curtis
They made a music video for Peacekeeper, don't you remember how great that was?
ontheEdgeof17
08-19-2004, 08:19 PM
They made a music video for Peacekeeper, don't you remember how great that was?
:laugh: So good I forgot about it.
-Curtis
Johnny Stew
08-19-2004, 08:50 PM
'Destiny Rules' is, to me, the best choice. The title says it all. 'What's The World Coming To' wouldn't have been a bad choice either.
I didn't like 'Say You Will' as an album title at first, but it's since grown on me... because I think it has a nice amount of ambiguity to it.
'Come' as a Fleetwood Mac album title? No thanks.
They've already named an album after a penis euphemism, so let's skip the orgasm euphemism. They're not Mötley Crüe, thank you very much. :)
Cristian
08-19-2004, 09:03 PM
Oh come on...
Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
Fleetwood Mac - Mirage
Fleetwood Mac - Live
Fleetwood Mac - Mirage
......
Fleetwood Mac - Come
It just flows too well... :woohoo:
dissention
08-19-2004, 09:19 PM
Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.
Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.
Johnny Stew
08-19-2004, 09:26 PM
Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.
Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.
The album is named, so it really doesn't matter much.
But 'Come' sounds too pedestrian when taken in one context, and too crass when taken in the other context.
One can find crassness everywhere they turn, and, as I said, Fleetwood Mac is not some cocky, let's-get-laid heavy metal band. They can do better than an album titled 'Come,' in my opinion.
EveryHour
08-19-2004, 09:30 PM
Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.
Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.
:laugh: Ugh.
Is it any more "cheesy" than Mirage, The Wild Heart, etc.? Just wondering how you feel about those titles. :shrug:
dissention
08-19-2004, 09:36 PM
The album is named, so it really doesn't matter much.
But 'Come' sounds too pedestrian when taken in one context, and too crass when taken in the other context.
One can find crassness everywhere they turn, and, as I said, Fleetwood Mac is not some cocky, let's-get-laid heavy metal band. They can do better than an album titled 'Come,' in my opinion.
Come as a title would better represent the album than Destiny Rules. Destiny Rules sounds like it could be the name of a cheesy, early-nineties pop album by Belinda Carlisle. :sorry:
However, I highly doubt that upon first hearing of the title, people would think of it in a crass way. It's Fleetwood Mac, for cripes sake.
dissention
08-19-2004, 09:37 PM
:laugh: Ugh.
Is it any more "cheesy" than Mirage, The Wild Heart, etc.? Just wondering how you feel about those titles. :shrug:
No, I think those titles represent their respective albums well, whereas Say You Will does not. It's too sunny for such a dark album.
dissention
08-19-2004, 09:40 PM
Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:
GypsySorcerer
08-19-2004, 09:41 PM
Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:
That was going to be my choice.....even though I despise the song. :laugh:
Johnny Stew
08-19-2004, 09:54 PM
Come as a title would better represent the album than Destiny Rules. Destiny Rules sounds like it could be the name of a cheesy, early-nineties pop album by Belinda Carlisle. :sorry:
Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p
"Destiny Rules" would make a statement... "Come" is just a lonely verb, without anything to qualify it.
'Mirage' and 'Rumours' were effective because they're nouns... not just because they were "short and sweet" titles.
However, I highly doubt that upon first hearing of the title, people would think of it in a crass way. It's Fleetwood Mac, for cripes sake.
There is absolutely no way you can use "Come" as a stand-alone word, and not have people's minds automatically go to the gutter.
Heck, even 70 year old grandmothers reading trashy romance novels, know what "come" stands for!
Although with that title, FM might have sold an additional 200 albums to horny 15 year old boys. :) :laugh:
Johnny Stew
08-19-2004, 09:56 PM
Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:
Now on that one we can both agree. :)
Now that you mention it, "Illume" is WAY better than "Destiny Rules" as a title. For sure.
But "Destiny Rules" is still a better and more fitting title than "Come," in my opinion. :)
EveryHour
08-19-2004, 09:56 PM
No, I think those titles represent their respective albums well, whereas Say You Will does not. It's too sunny for such a dark album.
I was referring to your hatred of Destiny Rules as a title, not SYW.:)
Illume is a beautiful word, but I can see it more as a Stevie solo album title than FM. I thought I liked it as a title for a second, but I actually kinda think that one is cheesy...sounds like an Enya album or something. :sorry: :)
ontheEdgeof17
08-19-2004, 10:00 PM
Fleetwood Mac: Smells of Nag ChampRa
It could work. :nod:
-Curt
EveryHour
08-20-2004, 12:33 AM
Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p
:laugh: :lol: Oh, lord! I was about 8 when that album came out and I played it to death. I've been pro-peace since birth, and I remember thinking "hell yeah" with the title song. What was I thinking?!
Although with that title, FM might have sold an additional 200 albums to horny 15 year old boys.:laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: Now that's a good point! I know a lot of you like Come for a title, but can you truly get into it?! A commercial: "The latest release from Fleetwood Mac is Come". Or in print in your Target flyer:
Onsale 4-15-03
Fleetwood Mac
Come
:shrug: :woohoo:
tynan88
08-20-2004, 12:48 AM
I think any of the songs would have been appropriate but I would've been scared if it Say Goodbye or Goodbye Baby :laugh: :laugh:
And what's this about a Peacekeeper music video...I've never heard of it, I actually don't think that would be such a bad name for the album. My favourite would be Running Through The Garden or Everybody Finds Out :shocked: Everbody Finds Out, I just think thats brilliant.
Tynan
wondergirl9847
08-20-2004, 01:13 AM
Why does it have to be named for a song, Mirage wasn't, Penguin wasn't...Rumours wasn't....Then Play On wasn't....Time wasn't....
Fleetwood Mac - Dark Corridors (I dunno, because of the darkness of the album and a corridor leads you to the unknown...just like with the band, who knows where they will end up....)
Fleetwood Mac - Colour (Because I like the way the Brits spell words. Rumours...Colour...LOL Ironic because they don't WEAR color, the cover is gray, they are in all black. You also have colors in songs, Red Rover...Silver Girl...uhhh...Gardens have flowers that are colorful, Illume reminds me of light and color...I don't know. :laugh: )
dissention
08-20-2004, 09:44 AM
Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p
Regardless if the song itself is torturous, the title "From A Distance" worked great, IMO.
"Destiny Rules" would make a statement... "Come" is just a lonely verb, without anything to qualify it.
Stevie can save those flakey statements for a solo album. Great song, terrible name. It's just soooooooooo cheesy.
cliffdweller
08-20-2004, 10:10 AM
I think "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" would have said it all.
:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:
Serrart
08-20-2004, 10:11 AM
Favourite title: Everybody Finds Out
Runner-ups: Destiny Rules, Steal Your Heart Away
Romy
MirrorInTheSky
08-20-2004, 10:25 AM
I'd have to go with Thrown Down because it's edgy, dark, and would have gone beautifully with the cover since it looks like they were all thrown down on the ground. You could also say that they've thrown down a good beat.
CarneVaca
08-20-2004, 10:28 AM
You guys are missing the obvious:
PEACEKEEPER
Come would be a good title too, but perhaps too risque. Destiny Rules would be gag-inducing.
Everybody Finds Out would be kind of cool too.
But no matter what, Say You Will is an awful title, and I bet it has cost a few sales.
cliffdweller
08-20-2004, 10:34 AM
Steal Your Heart Away
Romy
Ahhhh, now there you go.
ShangriLaTroubl
08-20-2004, 10:58 AM
And what's this about a Peacekeeper music video...I've never heard of it
Tynan
It wasn't much of a music video...but it was one...It was a video from the Tour rehearsals (although they were much more done up than they usually are in rehearsals)...of them performing the song..it was released on VH1...played a little bit around the time SYW came out...nice little video I guess.. couldve been much more...and the good part is in the end, a nice hug b/w Stevie and Lindsey and Stevie laughs and goes "do these guys know eachother?"
Chris
bikerchic
08-20-2004, 01:33 PM
My choice could be between Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden.
Running Through the Garden - definitely a Stevie solo album title, not FM, too feminine.
Thrown Down - great song and excellent song writing IMO but too negative for a title.
Everybody Finds Out - more great song writing, another one of my fav's....title though, maybe.
I think out of all the song titles, it would have to be Destiny Rules, although Steal Your Heart Away sounds kind of good & could mean "let us steal your heart away for awhile, while you listen to this".
David
08-20-2004, 02:13 PM
Come
Destiny Rules is too hokey, IMO.
I'd vote for "Come," too -- why not try to generate sales? It worked for "Ulysses"!
"Destiny Rules" has always baffled me: is "rules" supposed to be a verb ("destiny rules our lives") or a noun ("traffic rules")? I think it's just another senseless nothing of a phrase, the sort of phrase you'd find in a junior high yearbook next to your classmate's signature. It's vapid (when anyone starts talking about destiny, I generally check out) but it's nonetheless the kind of thing that strikes lots of people as profound.
Of course, maybe Stevie had the right idea when she wrote: My destiny says that I'm destined to come.
David
08-20-2004, 02:14 PM
Running Through the Garden - definitely a Stevie solo album title, not FM, too feminine.
Or, conversely, too evocative of manure.
Johnny Stew
08-20-2004, 02:45 PM
Wow, not much love for the more metaphysical titles. "Flakey." "Too Feminine." "Vapid." :shrug:
I guess I just prefer titles that are more evocative and perhaps a little more "romantic," than those that lean towards the masculine or the aggressive, or towards mundanity.
Maybe it's the hippy in me. :)
dissention
08-20-2004, 04:31 PM
"Destiny Rules" has always baffled me: is "rules" supposed to be a verb ("destiny rules our lives") or a noun ("traffic rules")? I think it's just another senseless nothing of a phrase, the sort of phrase you'd find in a junior high yearbook next to your classmate's signature. It's vapid (when anyone starts talking about destiny, I generally check out) but it's nonetheless the kind of thing that strikes lots of people as profound.
I believe it's the former. ;) Still cheesy and the whole "destiny" crap is just more rote garbage. If it's profound, so are the scrawling I found in a public toilet stall today.
Of course, maybe Stevie had the right idea when she wrote: My destiny says that I'm destined to come.
Not in many years, by her own admission. :laugh:
MacMan
08-20-2004, 04:38 PM
Ahhhh, now there you go.
with "again" added to the end of this quote.... I think we have our album title!!! :shrug:
amber
08-20-2004, 04:42 PM
although Steal Your Heart Away sounds kind of good & could mean "let us steal your heart away for awhile, while you listen to this".
That's why I picked it - It certainly stole MY heart away...It seems like something positive that might make more people buy it :)
AMBer
amber
08-20-2004, 04:49 PM
I'd vote for "Come," too -- why not try to generate sales? It worked for "Ulysses"!
"Destiny Rules" has always baffled me: is "rules" supposed to be a verb ("destiny rules our lives") or a noun ("traffic rules")? I think it's just another senseless nothing of a phrase, the sort of phrase you'd find in a junior high yearbook next to your classmate's signature. It's vapid (when anyone starts talking about destiny, I generally check out) but it's nonetheless the kind of thing that strikes lots of people as profound.
Of course, maybe Stevie had the right idea when she wrote: My destiny says that I'm destined to come.
Gosh, I never even thought about "rules" that other way - the traffic rules one. I understand you're checking out, but to me, if anything is Destined to do anything, it's this band. Did you see the story about Christines psychic mom telling her she' find everything in an orange grove, then lindsey and stevie lived on Orange/Grove? :eek:
Cool...
AMber
diamondsnake
08-20-2004, 06:46 PM
I don't think Running through the Garden sounds feminine, I think it sounds beautiful.
Come to think of it, I think Bleed to Love Her would have been a good title because it is like Lindsey talking about Stevie and is romantic and a little masculine (blood) at the same time.
tynan88
08-20-2004, 09:17 PM
I think Destiny Rules is miss-titled, it should have been "Destiny's Rules", I think that is how I have always seen it. As in, it's a song about the how you must abide by the rules and obligations of destiny, I suppose come to think of it now it also can be seen as how destiny controls everything, but I have always seen it the other way.
Tynan
golddustwoman77
08-22-2004, 03:58 PM
I think "Destiny Rules" is the most fitting for this album. After the band lost Christine, decided to continue on, and made it through the creative, album-making process proved the band will continue to success and grow once again after losing another member-----destiny rules. Perfect! :nod:
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