TV Ad Against Bruce Springsteen Tour [Archive]

77Rumours77

08-17-2004, 02:51 PM

TV Ad Against Bruce Springsteen Tour

Rocker Bruce Springsteen has been slammed for his upcoming concert tour to unseat current President George W. Bush.

Marilyn O'Grady, a Conservative Party candidate for the Senate, has launched a television ad campaign against the rock'n'roll star.

The Vote For Change tour is one of the most overtly political statements of Springsteen's 30 year career and he is joined by other significant acts, including rockers Pearl Jam, John Mellencamp and the Dixie Chicks.

In the ad, O'Grady says, "He thinks making millions with a song-and-dance routine that allows him to tell you how to vote."

"Here's my vote: Boycott the Boss. If you don't buy his politics, don't buy his music."

The commercials are set to run on Fox News channel before the tour starts in October.
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First of all, I just need to say that this is a big bucket of warm BULL****! I am so glad that there is a political "tour" going on this summer against bush. There needs to be more of that. :)
The thing that pisses me off about this artical is why is this targeted at the Boss? The Dixie Chickens are in on this, Boonie Raitt (SP?), John Mellencapm, REM, and others are on this tour too. So don't target just one artist Target the tour.
I don't give a flying fu*k who you are, you do not trash one of my biggest musical influences.
Boycott... Who are you telling to boycott this? Kerry Supportes. There not going to listen to you crap anyways. All I/they want is Bush out of office. Freedom OF SPEECH ****ERS! People should be able to do what they want and say what they want. This is AMERICA! The last thing I need is some politician telling my to boycott something. You guys don't listen to people like me so why should I listen to you.

Ok that was my rant!.... Be sure to check out my "Bush Needs to leave thread" :rolleyes:

Patti

08-17-2004, 02:58 PM

Yet another attempt at mind control by the Republican party.

strandinthewind

08-17-2004, 02:58 PM

I think once a movie star, singer, etc., puts themselves in the political arena, then they cannot be surprised when people who do not like what they say react in this manner.

In any event, Do I think this woman is trying to start a witch hunt a la the Dixie Chicks - yes. Do I think she is a horrible person for it, yes. Do I question her right to do it - no. Do I think the artist has the right to act surprised when some harpy like this does something like this - No.

Also - the Dixie Chicks and country radio are one thing, but The Boss, who sells out ARENAS to this day, is quite another. She will fail.

dissention

08-17-2004, 03:10 PM

"He thinks making millions with a song-and-dance routine that allows him to tell you how to vote."

It should read:

"I think running for the senate makes my opinions more important than the opinions of others."

She's a ballsy chick, if I do say so myself. She must think that just because she makes the thousands needed for a TV spot, that allows her to tell us what artist to like.

I'd be willing to bet that this is going to turn off a lot of people, fans or otherwise. I think it's an unwritten rule that you just don't mess with Bruce.

strandinthewind

08-17-2004, 03:13 PM

I'd be willing to bet that this is going to turn off a lot of people, fans or otherwise. I think it's an unwritten rule that you just don't mess with Bruce.

YEP!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Johnny Stew

08-17-2004, 03:16 PM

I think they're going after the wrong guy, that's for sure.

The Dixie Chicks are (or at least, were) well-liked, but Springsteen is LOVED, and deeply respected. He's a "working-class hero" in people's eyes, and a rock icon, period.

A lot of people have a deep affection for The Boss, and going after him, is like going after any other American institution.

It'll be interesting to see if this back-fires on Ms. O'Grady.

77Rumours77

08-17-2004, 03:29 PM

It'll be interesting to see if this back-fires on Ms. O'Grady.

If...? Its more a question of when. :laugh:

gldstwmn

08-17-2004, 04:21 PM

I don't think he'll respond. Let these fools keep it up.

sodascouts

08-17-2004, 06:21 PM

In any event, Do I think this woman is trying to start a witch hunt a la the Dixie Chicks - yes. Do I think she is a horrible person for it, yes. Do I question her right to do it - no. Do I think the artist has the right to act surprised when some harpy like this does something like this - No.

Also - the Dixie Chicks and country radio are one thing, but The Boss, who sells out ARENAS to this day, is quite another. She will fail.

A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

dissention

08-17-2004, 07:06 PM

A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

I think anyone who would belittle and question a man's constitutional right to freely express his political views has at least a hint of the horrible-ness to them. ;) :laugh:

CarneVaca

08-17-2004, 07:42 PM

[B]I don't give a flying fu*k who you are, you do not trash one of my biggest musical influences.
Boycott... Who are you telling to boycott this? Kerry Supportes.

Easy there. This numbnuts has as much right to speak up against Bruce as Bruce does to speak up against Bush or anyone else.

strandinthewind

08-17-2004, 08:30 PM

A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

I used "horrible person" because I am so fed up with the Republican scorched earth policy of destroying anyone or anything against W's reelection by wrapping themselves in the flag and saying anyone and/or anything that dares to speak out against them is an unpatriotic member of Al-Q who needs to be financially slaughtered and publicly humiliated, which is what this person is doing and/or implying. I think that make her horrible :shrug:

I guess I am stil smarting from Max Cleland's defeat here in GA. The R's, with W's blessings, called a man "unpatriotic" and "Al-Q sympathiser" who left two legs and an arm on the battlefield in Vietnam - they called him this because he dared to vote against the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Sec. becuase the R.'s wanted to use the furor over 9/11 to slip in denying these 144,000 govt. employess their right to be unionized and get other govt. benefits that every other govt. employee gets and that some of these people would be getting until their jobs were switched for them by the creation of this new Agency. That was horrible. May God forgive them for that because that was just a sin in my book. Again, the man ledt about half of his body defending this country and those who chose not to go called him unpatriotic - that is the length Karl Rove will go to to keep power and it just sickens me.

Note: Nancy :xoxo: - this rant was not at you darlin' :angel: :xoxo:

77Rumours77

08-17-2004, 08:33 PM

Easy there. This numbnuts has as much right to speak up against Bruce as Bruce does to speak up against Bush or anyone else.
Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

strandinthewind

08-17-2004, 08:44 PM

Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

Well, that is too simple an explanation IMO. For instance, would you buy the record of someone who played in support of W and went around saying W was the only way to go and Kerry must be defeated at all costs. I submit most on the left would lose their indignation and not buy that person's product - but I could be wrong. So, the sword cuts both ways. It is not people responding to a famous person's overt political speech that I object to - I think that is fair game. What I object to is the R's strategy of launching these huge attack machines to prey on the patriotism this country was feeling after 9/11 to malign these people. A good example is the Dixie Chicks. Sean Hannity, a far right wing pundit, actually said Natalie Maines' put our troops in harm's way by telling a London audience prior to the Iraq war that she was ashamed the Pres. of the U.S. was from Texas. Many people believed Hannity and others who persecuted NM's silly and innocuous comment and the rest is history. That is why I think such things are dangerous no matter who foes them. :cool:

gldstwmn

08-17-2004, 09:44 PM

I guess I am stil smarting from Max Cleland's defeat here in GA.

Then let's not forget McCain. What kind of dirt must they have on him? They eat their own. It's disgusting.

Sugar

08-18-2004, 08:31 AM

This is all just noise.

While O'Grady certainly has a right to say what she wants, this is stupid. First off, if Bruce NEVER sold another record, would Bruce really be hurting? I think not. Second, he is so beloved I can't BELIEVE this woman actually thinks she is going to turn people against him... has anyone heard her new album? Is it any good? :lol: Third, I just hate copycats, and this just seems to be an attempt at trying to re-do the whole Dixie Chicks thing. I hope the Dixie Chicks made a lot of money off all the people who blindly destroyed their Dixie Chicks albums, and then, after all the fuss died down, went out and bought them a second time because they really did like the music! :lol: And you SO can't compare the following of the Dixie Chicks to that of "The Boss"!

Additionally, it also drives me crazy when people say, "celebrities should stay out of politics," or "It's irresponsible for celebrities to speak out on political issues." Why? They are citizens, they have as much right to hold and voice an opinion as anyone else. I certainly believe they should be prepared for any ramifications, but if they are, why not voice an opinion? :thumbsup:

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 08:51 AM

Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

Yeah, dude, that's the point. Freedom must flow both ways, or it isn't really freedom.

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 08:54 AM

Then let's not forget McCain. What kind of dirt must they have on him? They eat their own. It's disgusting.

All they had to do was paint the guy as unstable and then suggest he had fathered an illegitimate black child. That voters fall for this kind of thing says something about the nation in general, not just the scoundrels who concoct these tactics.

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 08:55 AM

"It's irresponsible for celebrities to speak out on political issues."

Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

dissention

08-18-2004, 10:36 AM

Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

And molest women.

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 12:05 PM

Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

I am just curious, other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W :laugh: - has Gov. S. been so bad. I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

dissention

08-18-2004, 12:10 PM

I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

Because he hasn't really done much of anything, by all accounts.

Listen, I don't think the Gropenfueher is all that bad. He's left-winger when it comes to social issues (he supports gay marriage, for example) and a right-winger on fiscal issues. Which is why I don't understand his support for Bush. :shrug:

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 12:13 PM

Because he hasn't really done much of anything, by all accounts.

Listen, I don't think the Gropenfueher is all that bad. He's left-winger when it comes to social issues (he supports gay marriage, for example) and a right-winger on fiscal issues. Which is why I don't understand his support for Bush. :shrug:

He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly. Maybe he is trying to change the R party. If so good for him.

As for California, he took on a momumental task that I am unsure anyone will be able to cure anytime soon :cool:

P.S. I guess I am no longer allowed to say:

"other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W - :laugh: "

when it comes to govenors!!!!! :angel:

dissention

08-18-2004, 12:19 PM

He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly. Maybe he is trying to change the R party. If so good for him.

No, he just wants to be the next Kennedy. ;)

As for California, he took on a momumental task that I am unsure anyone will be able to cure anytime soon :cool:

ESPECIALLY if that someone has no experience. :shocked:

P.S. I guess I am no longer allowed to say:

"other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W - :laugh: "

when it comes to govenors!!!!! :angel:

So, am I no longer a nutcase? :p

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 12:20 PM

You have promoted to a blanched almond!!!!!! :laugh:

What a day I am having!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the levity :cool:

dissention

08-18-2004, 12:22 PM

You have promoted to a blanched almond!!!!!! :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What a day I am having!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the levity :cool:

Anytime. :xoxo: I just responded to the "Hillary In '08" thread, so I needed the levity just as much. :lol:

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 12:28 PM

Anytime. :xoxo: I just responded to the "Hillary In '08" thread, so I needed the levity just as much. :lol:

I think we are a little too well read sometimes and have little patience for those who are not!!!!

I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

dissention

08-18-2004, 12:32 PM

I think we are a little too well read sometimes and have little patience for those who are not!!!!

Oh, preach it. :xoxo:

I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

:laugh: That's like calling Scott McClellan a messenger of truth. :laugh:

EveryHour

08-18-2004, 12:35 PM

Yet another attempt at mind control by the Republican party.

Ya think?! Shameful. :distress: :distress: :distress:

GO BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 01:10 PM

I am just curious, other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W :laugh: - has Gov. S. been so bad. I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

You've been working overtime at missing obvious points, Jason. Tsk. :p

The point is to point out the hypocrisy of the very conservatives who wanted this guy in office when they are the first to cry foul whenever a celebrity speaks up against Bush.

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 01:12 PM

He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly.

Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

dissention

08-18-2004, 01:14 PM

Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

I was waiting for it. :lol:

CarneVaca

08-18-2004, 01:15 PM

I was waiting for it. :lol:

I'm wondering if Jason thinks staying true to the party no matter how bad it gets is silly only when that party is symbolized by an elephant. ;)

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 01:36 PM

Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

I am in no party :cool:

BUT - I can throw one HELLUVA party :woohoo: :woohoo: :] :]

strandinthewind

08-18-2004, 01:40 PM

You've been working overtime at missing obvious points, Jason. Tsk. :p

The point is to point out the hypocrisy of the very conservatives who wanted this guy in office when they are the first to cry foul whenever a celebrity speaks up against Bush.

I know - I got it.

I was just asking a related question because I had not heard anything bad about Arnold :shrug:

sodascouts

08-18-2004, 02:28 PM

I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

This is a springboard from what you're saying and not exactly a rebuttal to it, because of course Hannity is not fair and balanced in himself. He does, however, have a liberal commentator sharing the bill with him on FoxNews. I believe the concept was his idea, wasn't it? At least it was an idea he embraced. And I admire that gesture towards fairness. But some people act like the guy eats babies. :shrug:

dissention

08-18-2004, 02:32 PM

This is a springboard from what you're saying and not exactly a rebuttal to it, because of course Hannity is not fair and balanced in himself. He does, however, have a liberal commentator sharing the bill with him on FoxNews. I believe the concept was his idea, wasn't it? At least it was an idea he embraced. And I admire that gesture towards fairness. But some people act like the guy eats babies. :shrug:

He doesn't eat babies, he's just a vicious liar.

And to say that having Colmes on that show balances things out is ludicrous, IMO. Media watchdog groups have done studies where it has been shown that Hannity gets to ask more questions, has more face-time, and on average, 13 minutes more than Colmes gets. And Colmes is so meek that he couldn't make a point if he tried. Plus, he's forced to read those hideously biased teleprompter scripts. I loved it when Susan Estrich (welcome back from the Dark Side, Linda!) was on and refused to read from it. :lol: