Fat Actress

[darklinensuit]

Good for Kirstie Alley. This reminds me of Street Angel Stevie

- Jake


Alley Thinks Big for Showtime's 'Fat Actress'
(Thursday, July 22 10:05 AM)
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) You would think that an eight-time Emmy nominee would have better things to talk about than her fluctuating weight. Or at least Kirstie Alley thinks so. The "Cheers" star's battle with public perceptions is at the center of "Fat Actress," a semi-autobiographical comedy in development at Showtime.
The premium cable network has ordered six episodes of "Fat Actress," which will blend the comedy and reality genres. Alley and the rest of the show's cast will work off of a story outline, but most of the dialogue will be improvised.

Alley is serving as co-creator and executive producer on the series, joining "7th Heaven" (and "Mad About You") veteran Brenda Hampton. "Fat Actress" will focus on Alley's quest for work, love and acceptance in Hollywood, as well as her battle with her weight and media awareness of her size.


"Kirstie Alley came to us -- with 24 dozen Krispy Kremes in hand -- and said she was so tired of seeing unflatteringly fat pictures of herself on the cover of The Star that it was time for her to send-up her own image as well as Hollywood's obsession with weight and beauty," says Showtime Entertainment President Robert Greenblatt.
Greenblatt continues, "Kirstie is an incredibly gifted comedian and a beautiful woman [regardless of her size], and we jumped at the chance to go behind the scenes of her life in a unique comedy series format."

A two-time Emmy winner for "Cheers" and the telefilm "David's Mother," Alley is looking forward to beginning production in September for a 2005 premiere.

"Finally a network that feels just like home," she says. "They don't give a damn how much I eat or how many men I sleep with as long as it's on camera."

[GardenStateGirlie]

I've always liked Kirstie (with the exception of her Pier One commericals) and I'm glad to see she's back to acting again regardless of her size. I don't get Showtime but i'm sure it'll be a good show.

[darklinensuit]

I've always liked Kirstie (with the exception of her Pier One commericals) and I'm glad to see she's back to acting again regardless of her size. I don't get Showtime but i'm sure it'll be a good show.

I don't get Showtime either, but I'll add that the Pier One commercials are better than Veronica's Closet.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I don't get Showtime either, but I'll add that the Pier One commercials are better than Veronica's Closet.

- Jake

True. That show was canceled after 2 seasons I think. Wasn't very good at all. Hopefully this will fair better for her.

[estranged4life]

I would rather watch Stevie Nicks, Kirstie Alley & Rita Crosby have an all-out cat fight...I know, I know, I'm a perve :lol:

[darklinensuit]

True. That show was canceled after 2 seasons I think. Wasn't very good at all. Hopefully this will fair better for her.

It's on cable. Seems like the critics like the cable shows.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

I would rather watch Stevie Nicks, Kirstie Alley & Rita Crosby have an all-out cat fight...I know, I know, I'm a perve :lol:

Not necessarily. When you say rather, you mean rather than what? (If it's three other women in a catfight, describe it in detail so I can decide if you're a perv. Lots of detail. :nod: :angel: )

- Jake

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Good to see she is comfortable with her size no matter what anyone else has to say. As someone who has been fat and..um.. not so fat..lol.. I say good for her!

Pip

[ShangriLaTroubl]

True. That show was canceled after 2 seasons I think. Wasn't very good at all. Hopefully this will fair better for her.


Funny I always wondered why It was cancelled..I actually LOVED that show lol...seriously


Chris

[DrummerDeanna]

Show sounds interesting....anything that challenges the stupid un-naturally skinny norm of Hollywood gets my support...

I never saw Veronica's Closet - I saw one little part once where Kirstie had developed a normal woman Barbie type doll...not super skinny...and they had some kid test it out in a play room...when they look in on her the kid has the "fat barbie" pulling a wagon like a horse or something...haha...it was amusing...

[dissention]

I saw this on TV last night and it's supposed to be like Curb Your Enthusiasm, which I love. No matter her size, she's a great actress and a VERY funny comedianne. I think she's always been beautiful, too, and she has gorgeous eyes. And from what I've seen, it does look like she lost a bit of weight.

She cracked me up last night on TV when she said "People look at me and wonder how I got so big. I know how I got so big, I ate too much!" Then she said that "it was like Christmas for me for four years and finally one day I just turned around and said 'Damn Kirstie, you've got a fat ass!'" :lol:

[darklinensuit]

Good to see she is comfortable with her size no matter what anyone else has to say. As someone who has been fat and..um.. not so fat..lol.. I say good for her!

Pip

You can say it - "thin." Weren't you the one who posted pics? :)

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

I saw this on TV last night and it's supposed to be like Curb Your Enthusiasm, which I love. No matter her size, she's a great actress and a VERY funny comedianne. I think she's always been beautiful, too, and she has gorgeous eyes. And from what I've seen, it does look like she lost a bit of weight.

She cracked me up last night on TV when she said "People look at me and wonder how I got so big. I know how I got so big, I ate too much!" Then she said that "it was like Christmas for me for four years and finally one day I just turned around and said 'Damn Kirstie, you've got a fat ass!'" :lol:

And she had a tough divorce from the Hardy Boy, supposedly.

- Jake

[dissention]

And she had a tough divorce from the Hardy Boy, supposedly.

- Jake

He wanted all her money and hundreds of thousands in alimony per month. When asked why he was being so vicious towards her and the money he earned, he said he had been accustomed to a lavish lifestyle and that was how he had to live. :rolleyes:

[darklinensuit]

He wanted all her money and hundreds of thousands in alimony per month. When asked why he was being so vicious towards her and the money he earned, he said he had been accustomed to a lavish lifestyle and that was how he had to live. :rolleyes:

Hey, no different from many Hollywood wives, not that I defend it.
I can't wait for somebody to accustom me to a lavish lifestyle so I can sue. :blob2:
And BTW, It's silly for Kirstie to pay when Parker's acting career is so hot right now. :lol:

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

He wanted all her money and hundreds of thousands in alimony per month. When asked why he was being so vicious towards her and the money he earned, he said he had been accustomed to a lavish lifestyle and that was how he had to live. :rolleyes:

Did you see the E! True Story? He was such a smug jackass. However, it seems as though they BOTH lived above their means but what he was asking for was absolutely obsurd.

[darklinensuit]

Did you see the E! True Story? He was such a smug jackass. However, it seems as though they BOTH lived above their means but what he was asking for was absolutely obsurd.

Nope, I don't have cable.
But I did get a DVD player.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I can't wait for somebody to accustom me to a lavish lifestyle so I can sue. :blob2:

- Jake

I hate to burst your bubble (nah, I love it ;) ) Stevie still isn't going to marry you

[dissention]

And BTW, It's silly for Kirstie to pay when Parker's acting career is so hot right now. :lol:

- Jake

:lol: He's rolling in the bucks.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Nope, I don't have cable.
But I did get a DVD player.

- Jake


:shocked: So what, may I ask, brought on the sudden urge to become a part of this century??? ;)

[darklinensuit]

:lol: He's rolling in the bucks.

It was trhat lucrative first season of Baywatch. Or was it that guest stint on the Love Boat? These things are just so fresh in our memories.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

:shocked: So what, may I ask, brought on the sudden urge to become a part of this century??? ;)

Recuperating, & spending a lot of money as a result.

- Jake

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

You can say it - "thin." Weren't you the one who posted pics? :)

- Jake
Haha.. I'll never be thin but I like my curves most of the time. Just packing some extra pounds again that I really should do something about!

Pip

[darklinensuit]

I hate to burst your bubble (nah, I love it ;) ) Stevie still isn't going to marry you

As I've said before, I do not have a Stevie marriage fantasy. :shrug:

- Jake

[dissention]

It was trhat lucrative first season of Baywatch. Or was it that guest stint on the Love Boat? These things are just so fresh in our memories.

- Jake

Don't forget his two epeisodes of Melrose Place. What a blockbuster paycheck he got that week.

[darklinensuit]

Haha.. I'll never be thin but I like my curves most of the time. Just packing some extra pounds again that I really should do something about!

Pip

Curves are a good thing. :nod:

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Recuperating, & spending a lot of money as a result.

- Jake

So will you perhaps be purchasing an extra Fleetwood Mac ticket that someone might have? :nod: :angel:

[darklinensuit]

So will you perhaps be purchasing an extra Fleetwood Mac ticket that someone might have? :nod: :angel:

No, but since I've grown lavishly accustomed to see the show every few months, I'll sue you for it. :)

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Don't forget his two epeisodes of Melrose Place. What a blockbuster paycheck he got that week.

Other than what you've mentioned, he hasn't been in anything recently has he? Of course, why would he need to work when his ex-wife keeps him in his designer jeans? :laugh:

[darklinensuit]

Other than what you've mentioned, he hasn't been in anything recently has he? Of course, why would he need to work when his ex-wife keeps him in his designer jeans? :laugh:

Keep your voice down or they might plan the Hardy Boys Middle Aged Men Mysteries Reunion Special. Guest appearance from Pamela Sue Martin.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

No, but since I've grown lavishly accustomed to see the show every few months, I'll sue you for it. :)

- Jake

That would mean that at some point, we would have to have been married to one another. :distress: I want the DVD player. Sorry I ruined our plates by throwing them at you :laugh: ;)

[GardenStateGirlie]

Keep your voice down or they might plan the Hardy Boys Middle Aged Men Mysteries Reunion Special. Guest appearance from Pamela Sue Martin.

- Jake

:eek:

I'm sure that'll make the top ten in the ratings :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

I saw this on TV last night and it's supposed to be like Curb Your Enthusiasm, which I love. No matter her size, she's a great actress and a VERY funny comedianne. I think she's always been beautiful, too, and she has gorgeous eyes. And from what I've seen, it does look like she lost a bit of weight.

She cracked me up last night on TV when she said "People look at me and wonder how I got so big. I know how I got so big, I ate too much!" Then she said that "it was like Christmas for me for four years and finally one day I just turned around and said 'Damn Kirstie, you've got a fat ass!'" :lol:

:laugh: That is hilarious.

And you're right, she's got the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen! And I love her voice, very raspy and cool. I always thought she was better than Shelly Long on Cheers, sorry Jake!

:wavey:

[darklinensuit]

That would mean that at some point, we would have to have been married to one another. :distress: I want the DVD player. Sorry I ruined our plates by throwing them at you :laugh: ;)

Isn't chinette plastic anyway?
I keep the DVD player, you keep the thongs & mime clothes. You came in with them anyway.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

:eek:

I'm sure that'll make the top ten in the ratings :laugh:

Can't be worse than the Facts Of Life reunion.
BTW, I got the Wonder Woman DVD, and it has perhaps the worst stunts, dialogue, and acting I've ever seen in my life. Thank goodness she's beautiful.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Isn't chinette plastic anyway?
I keep the DVD player, you keep the thongs & mime clothes. You came in with them anyway.

- Jake

Putting on the mime wear as we speak so I can cover for someone on my day off... :distress: You keep the thongs. You wore them more than I did. ;)

[darklinensuit]

Putting on the mime wear as we speak so I can cover for someone on my day off... :distress: You keep the thongs. You wore them more than I did. ;)

But my eye is healed, I don't need the patch any longer.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Can't be worse than the Facts Of Life reunion.

BTW, I got the Wonder Woman DVD, and it has perhaps the worst stunts, dialogue, and acting I've ever seen in my life. Thank goodness she's beautiful.

- Jake

The Facts of Life reunion...where shall I begin with that? How hard was it to believe that both of those guys were chasing Natalie and they had to compete in a contest for her? Please. It was horrible.

Wonder Woman on DVD....lol...just remember, at one time you thought that show was awesome and totally believable. Any good extras on it?

[GardenStateGirlie]

But my eye is healed, I don't need the patch any longer.

- Jake

I suppose it's a matter of opinion. I think you do :nod:

[darklinensuit]

The Facts of Life reunion...where shall I begin with that? How hard was it to believe that both of those guys were chasing Natalie and they had to compete in a contest for her? Please. It was horrible.

Wonder Woman on DVD....lol...just remember, at one time you thought that show was awesome and totally believable. Any good extras on it?

Never said it was believable. I've only watched the movie & part of the first episode, so don't know the extras yet.
BTW, you know that pic of Stevie with the chicken feathers on her head thing? I think Cloris Leachmman borrowed the outfit for the pilot movie. She's...not...Stevie... :shocked:

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

I suppose it's a matter of opinion. I think you do :nod:

And I suppose some opinions matter more than yours. Say hello to everyone else's. :wavey:

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Never said it was believable. I've only watched the movie & part of the first episode, so don't know the extras yet.

BTW, you know that pic of Stevie with the chicken feathers on her head thing? I think Cloris Leachmman borrowed the outfit for the pilot movie. She's...not...Stevie... :shocked:

- Jake

:laugh: No, she's definately not

[GardenStateGirlie]

And I suppose some opinions matter more than yours. Say hello to everyone else's. :wavey:

- Jake

Hmph. Well then. The feeling is mutual, mister. And with that, i'm off to be disgruntled at work :nod: ;)

[darklinensuit]

:laugh: No, she's definately not

Frau Bluecher...(whinny)...

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Hmph. Well then. The feeling is mutual, mister. And with that, i'm off to be disgruntled at work :nod: ;)

Speaking of mutual feelings, I'm sure your co-workers are disgruntled to be with you.
Go spread joy & earn your much-needed surgery dough. :)


- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Speaking of mutual feelings, I'm sure your co-workers are disgruntled to be with you.
Go spread joy & earn your much-needed surgery dough. :)


- Jake

We all get along so there!

My money is going to the "buy Jake a new personality" fund ;) Talk to you later.

[darklinensuit]

We all get along so there!

See, you found your niche. Never leave.:D

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

Good for Kirstie Alley. This reminds me of Street Angel Stevie

- Jake


Kirstie Alley is morbidly obese from the photographs I have seen of her. She needs to lose weight. She has a responsibility to her children to stay healthy.
It doesn't remind me of the Street Angel era at all.

[darklinensuit]

I always thought she was better than Shelly Long on Cheers, sorry Jake!

:wavey:

Hey, I used to think that too. I still like her. All the women on that show were great.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Kirstie Alley is morbidly obese from the photographs I have seen of her. She needs to lose weight. She has a responsibility to her children to stay healthy.
It doesn't remind me of the Street Angel era at all.

I guess we have different defintions of morbidly obese. When I think morbidly obese, I think Carnie Wilson before her gastric bypass surgery :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

I guess we have different defintions of morbidly obese. When I think morbidly obese, I think Carnie Wilson before her gastric bypass surgery :shrug:

Have you seen a recent photo of Kirstie Alley? I would guess her to be at about 300 lbs. BTW, Carnie is gaining weight again. :( I'm all for embracing people for who they are. However, condoning habits or behavior that are hazardous to one's health is another issue.

[darklinensuit]

I'm just glad that Kirstie is comfortable enough with who she is. Who am I to judge her weight. I know this woman who had her stomach stapled (or tummy tucked, or something like that) and since losing the weight she thinks it's fine to criticize other woman for their weight. It's like she forgot what it was like, or she made the arrogant assumption that what felt right for her was automatically appropriate for the next overweight person. I just don't discuss it with her. :shrug:

- Jake

[Janet]

Last thing I read was that Kirstie was 307 pounds. The pics I saw I believe it.

There is being comfortable with your weight...being in your sensible weight range but not overweight...but being that overweight is just not good for you. You have to worry about your heart, getting diabetes, etc. It's not good.

Kirstie is stunning. She always was so pretty to me. I LOVE Cheers and I love her in it. I even watched Veronica's Closet and the Peir One commercials.

I don't care if she was a size 12...big deal. She spent most of Cheers that size I think. But 307? That's extreme. I hope she loses some weight before she gets sick...

[gldstwmn]

I'm just glad that Kirstie is comfortable enough with who she is. Who am I to judge her weight. I know this woman who had her stomach stapled (or tummy tucked, or something like that) and since losing the weight she thinks it's fine to criticize other woman for their weight. It's like she forgot what it was like, or she made the arrogant assumption that what felt right for her was automatically appropriate for the next overweight person. I just don't discuss it with her. :shrug:

- Jake

You don't seem to get that it's not about being comfortable with her wieght. She shouldn't be comfortable with her weight. It's slowly killing her. Kirstie Alley has plenty of money for plastic surgery, gastric bypass or whatever. It's not about the physical though, I think it's more something that's going on in her head.
I still don't get how you connect that with Stevie being overweight in the 90's. :shrug:

[darklinensuit]

You don't seem to get that it's not about being comfortable with her wieght. She shouldn't be comfortable with her weight. It's slowly killing her. Kirstie Alley has plenty of money for plastic surgery, gastric bypass or whatever. It's not about the physical though, I think it's more something that's going on in her head.
I still don't get how you connect that with Stevie being overweight in the 90's. :shrug:

You don't seem to get that the premise of the show is that Kirstie is being snubbed for the weight she is judged by, and that sounds a lot like Street Angel Stevie to me. A lot of people here have said that she sounded great on that tour but the press focused on her looks, and Stevie said the judgment on her weight almost forced her off the stage.
And I don't advocate pushing plastic surgery or gastric bypass on someone I don't even know. I'm not her doctor or even a doctor.

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

You don't seem to get that the premise of the show is that Kirstie is being snubbed for the weight she is judged by, and that sounds a lot like Street Angel Stevie to me. A lot of people here have said that she sounded great on that tour but the press focused on her looks, and Stevie said the judgment on her weight almost forced her off the stage.
And I don't advocate pushing plastic surgery or gastric bypass on someone I don't even know. I'm not her doctor or even a doctor.

- Jake

Ah, silly me. I thought you were just using this as an opportunity to take a swipe at Stevie.
:shrug:

[darklinensuit]

Ah, silly me. I thought you were just using this as an opportunity to take a swipe at Stevie.
:shrug:

Because I've taken SO many swipes at Stevie in the past. :confused: Guess when I'm not accused of being a 'shipper I'm accused of being a swiper. :shrug:

- Jake

[amber]

We all get along so there!

My money is going to the "buy Jake a new personality" fund ;) Talk to you later.
ooo, how do I give? :laugh: :wavey:
Amber

[darklinensuit]

ooo, how do I give? :laugh: :wavey:
Amber

Not well. :lol: :wavey:

- Jake

[amber]

Not well. :lol: :wavey:

- Jake
:laugh:
That's not what everyone else has heard.... :D
Amber

[darklinensuit]

:laugh:
That's not what everyone else has heard.... :D
Amber

:lol:
That's because you spread your own rumors. ;)

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Because I've taken SO many swipes at Stevie in the past. :confused: Guess when I'm not accused of being a 'shipper I'm accused of being a swiper. :shrug:

- Jake

Jake, i'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to resign from the Stevie 2004 campaign because aside from being a huge Stevie hater, we all know you're a shipper (that's strike two) AND that you're secretly working on said campaign to gain super secret information for GW Bush because you're also a closet Republican :eek:. Everybody finds out...don't you know? Leave the board immediately. Thanks. ;) :p

[amber]

:lol:
That's because you spread your own rumors. ;)

- Jake
No, that's you. Thanks for the kind words, BTW :p By the way, what's a shipper?
Amber

[darklinensuit]

Jake, i'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to resign from the Stevie 2004 campaign because aside from being a huge Stevie hater, we all know you're a shipper (that's strike two) AND that you're secretly working on said campaign to gain super secret information for GW Bush because you're also a closet Republican :eek:. Everybody finds out...don't you know? Leave the board immediately. Thanks. ;) :p

:lol:
I knew there was a reason I don't care for that song.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

:lol:
I knew there was a reason I don't care for that song.

- Jake

You don't know what's good ;) And why aren't you gone yet? :mad: :xoxo:

[darklinensuit]

You don't know what's good ;) And why aren't you gone yet? :mad: :xoxo:

Maybe not what's good, but whatever it is, it's very powerful...in a sucky way.
I was gone. :shrug:

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Just wanted to say that I went to Barnes and Noble today and she's on the cover of People Magazine looking absolutely gorgeous at 203 lbs, IMO

[amber]

Maybe not what's good, but whatever it is, it's very powerful...in a sucky way.
I was gone. :shrug:

- Jake
Stop! :lol: LeMow, LeMow!!Help!
Amber

[darklinensuit]

Just wanted to say that I went to Barnes and Noble today and she's on the cover of People Magazine looking absolutely gorgeous at 203 lbs, IMO

I saw the pic & she doesn't look bad, IMO.

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/08/02/fat.activism.ap/index.html

Monday, August 2, 2004 Posted: 10:42 PM EDT (0242 GMT)

NEW YORK (AP) -- Unashamed of their size, fed up with fat jokes, and angry at the national obsession with dieting, overweight activists are mounting a feisty protest movement against what it calls the medical establishment's campaign against obesity.

"We're living in the middle of a witch hunt and fat people are the witches," said Marilyn Wann of San Francisco, a militant member of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance. "It's gotten markedly worse in the last few years because of the propaganda that fatness, a natural human characteristic, is somehow a form of disease."

The association, known as NAAFA, holds its annual convention starting Wednesday in Newark, New Jersey, bringing together activists for social events and workshops on self-acceptance, political advocacy and the "fat liberation" movement.

"I hope we can be a viable force of sanity in the midst of hysteria," said NAAFA spokeswoman Mary Ray Worley of Madison, Wisconsin. "I've found allies in all kinds of unexpected places, but overall there's a lot of animosity. Some people act like obesity is the next worst thing after terrorism."

The convention comes as the movement is scrambling to counter federal government pronouncements that obesity is a "critical public health problem" costing more than $100 billion and 300,000 lives per year.

Jeannie Moloo, an American Dietetic Association spokeswoman who counsels overweight clients at her nutrition practice in Sacramento, California, empathizes with the activists' fight against bias, but says they should be wary of oversimplifying obesity-related health issues.

"Some people can be overweight all their lives and not end up with diabetes or heart disease or hypertension," Moloo said. "But the majority are probably going to develop one of these life-altering conditions."

Fat-acceptance groups were dismayed when federal officials announced last month that Medicare was discarding its declaration that obesity isn't a disease. The policy change will likely prompt overweight Americans covered by Medicare to file medical claims for treatments such as stomach surgery and diet programs.

"Obesity is not a disease," insisted Allen Steadham, director of the Austin, Texas-based International Size Acceptance Association. "All this does is open the door for the diet and bariatric surgery industries to make a potentially tremendous profit."

Most fat-acceptance activists endorse the concept of eating healthy food and exercising regularly, but they oppose any fixation on losing weight and contend that more than 95 percent of diets fail. They also decry the rapid growth of stomach-shrinking surgery; the number of such procedures has quadrupled to 100,000 annually since 1998.

Wann depicts bariatric surgery as "stomach amputation" that imposes anorexia on patients and exposes them to long-term risks. Kelly Bliss, a self-described "full-figured fitness instructor" from Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, predicts that future generations will disapprovingly look back on stomach surgery as "comparable to lobotomies."

Bliss, who coaches clients by phone and in fitness classes, subscribes to a philosophy called "health at every size" -- preaching that health, fitness and self-esteem can be achieved independent of weight.

"There's a war on obese people, and I'm treating the casualties - people whose hearts are being ripped out," Bliss said.

NAAFA and others have tried to combat what they see as rampant discrimination against fat people, but progress has been sporadic. Southwest Airlines, for example, resisted protests targeting its policy of requiring large passengers to purchase a second ticket if they can't fit in a single seat.

"People want to fight for their rights, but there's a lot of shame involved," Steadham said. "It takes a whole lot of determination to stick through it to the end."

A few cities, including San Francisco, explicitly outlaw weight discrimination. Michigan is the only state to do so, but its Civil Rights Department said only five of 1,696 job discrimination complaints filed in 2003 involved weight.

Walter Lindstrom, a San Diego attorney specializing in weight-discrimination cases, said overweight plaintiffs usually must prove that acts of bias against them are covered by federal laws prohibiting discrimination against disabled people.

"These cases are more difficult from a proof standpoint, and also because you're dealing with a very unpopular class of clients," Lindstrom said. "Juries are generally disgusted with your average size-related plaintiff. You have to get past that, and have them see the plaintiff as someone with a true medical problem."

Many fat-acceptance activists were heartened by this year's publication of "The Obesity Myth" by University of Colorado law professor Paul Campos, who contends that diet promoters, drug companies and weight-loss surgeons have whipped up an irrational panic over weight.

Campos shares many of the activists' views but says their effectiveness has been limited.

"The movement has found itself marginalized by drawing its membership and leadership from the far extreme of obesity," he said. "It will be more successful if it can attract the two-thirds of Americans who are being told by the government that they weigh too much -- the I-want-to-lose-20-pounds crowd who are starting to feel a certain amount of resentment from the constant haranguing they're getting."

[cliffdweller]

Just wanted to say that I went to Barnes and Noble today and she's on the cover of People Magazine looking absolutely gorgeous at 203 lbs, IMO

I saw that too! I guess she lost those controverisal 100 pounds... ;)

[dissention]

Have you seen a recent photo of Kirstie Alley? I would guess her to be at about 300 lbs. BTW, Carnie is gaining weight again. :( I'm all for embracing people for who they are. However, condoning habits or behavior that are hazardous to one's health is another issue.

Kirstie lost weight. :D She's down to 208.

[darklinensuit]

Kirstie lost weight. :D She's down to 208.

I haven't read the article to know whether she just lost any weight, but I did see her interviewed saying she was never anywhere near 300.

- Jake

[dissention]

I haven't read the article to know whether she just lost any weight, but I did see her interviewed saying she was never anywhere near 300.

- Jake

As much as I love Kirstie, I don't believe that for a second. She's a tall woman, so it's not as noticeable when she puts on weight. But she was in a TV movie a few months ago and was huge. Still a beautiful woman, but huge. But from what I've seen of her recently, she's lost a lot of weight and still looks great.

[GardenStateGirlie]

As much as I love Kirstie, I don't believe that for a second. She's a tall woman, so it's not as noticeable when she puts on weight. But she was in a TV movie a few months ago and was huge. Still a beautiful woman, but huge. But from what I've seen of her recently, she's lost a lot of weight and still looks great.

She is incredibly tall. Even though being heavier can put you at serious risk for many health issues, she has little kids she's running around after and I'm sure she's stayed active. Clearly she cared enough about her health to lose the weight that she did. Good for her

[darklinensuit]

Well, like I said, I can't argue this point because I have never weighed her or tracked her diet , but it seems surprising that she would lie about her weight at this time. Doesn't make sense.

- Jake

[dissention]

Well, like I said, I can't argue this point because I have never weighed her or tracked her diet , but it seems surprising that she would lie about her weight at this time. Doesn't make sense.

- Jake

You must never have been grossly overweight, then. ;)

[darklinensuit]

You must never have been grossly overweight, then. ;)

No, I guess I'm the lucky one.
When were you grossly overweight?

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I don't think she did lie about her weight.

[dissention]

No, I guess I'm the lucky one.
When were you grossly overweight?

- Jake

Years ago, doll. I lost all of it and am happy I did, both physically and mentally.

[darklinensuit]

Years ago, doll. I lost all of it and am happy I did, both physically and mentally.

How did you lose it? Adolescence or did you have to work your butt off? (Just curious - no judgment either way.)

- Jake

[dissention]

How did you lose it? Adolescence or did you have to work your butt off? (Just curious - no judgment either way.)

- Jake

Adolescence. One day I just woke up and said to myself that if I didn't lose it then, I'd be that weight for my entire life and die at forty. I was a skinny kid, but when I turned twelve, I ballooned. When I was fifteen, I was huge and that's when I knew I had to lose it. Now, I can eat whatever I like and miraculously not gain weight, but I do the South Beach Diet just to be heart healthy and keep low cholesterol. The good thing is that I lost it when I was still growing, so I have no stretch marks whatsoever. :thumbsup:

[darklinensuit]

Adolescence. One day I just woke up and said to myself that if I didn't lose it then, I'd be that weight for my entire life and die at forty. I was a skinny kid, but when I turned twelve, I ballooned. When I was fifteen, I was huge and that's when I knew I had to lose it. Now, I can eat whatever I like and miraculously not gain weight, but I do the South Beach Diet just to be heart healthy and keep low cholesterol. The good thing is that I lost it when I was still growing, so I have no stretch marks whatsoever. :thumbsup:

My brother was a little like that at a younger age. Went from being huge from babyhood to being super-thin by ten. These days he's not as skinny, but still taller and thinner than I.
I never had to watch what I eat until I moved to Houston. So much less walking for necessity, for the first time in my life my metabolism has slowed. Colleagues walk and swim every day, and I might do the walking and running with them this year. I won't do weights and swim.

- Jake

[dissention]

My brother was a little like that at a younger age. Went from being huge from babyhood to being super-thin by ten. These days he's not as skinny, but still taller and thinner than I.
I never had to watch what I eat until I moved to Houston. So much less walking for necessity, for the first time in my life my metabolism has slowed. Colleagues walk and swim every day, and I might do the walking and running with them this year. I won't do weights and swim.

- Jake

I don't like to swim because of the chlorine (it fries your hair and your skin). I started pilates a little while back and love it. It took place of running, which I used to do everyday, and works even better!!

[darklinensuit]

I don't like to swim because of the chlorine (it fries your hair and your skin). I started pilates a little while back and love it. It took place of running, which I used to do everyday, and works even better!!

I get a chlorine allergy from my mom. Didn't keep me from lifeguarding/teaching swim for years and swimming every day in college, but these days I don't get my head wet in the pool at all. Plus they say swimming makes the muscles too loose for tennis (if I ever take up tennis again) and I know it negatively affects my weight training.
I haven't done pilates, but I can pronounce it. :)

- Jake

[dissention]

I haven't done pilates, but I can pronounce it. :)

- Jake

That's the first step towards divinity. ;) :wavey:

[darklinensuit]

That's the first step towards divinity. ;) :wavey:

Ooops, usually I'm trying to run full speed in the other direction. ;)

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

Well, like I said, I can't argue this point because I have never weighed her or tracked her diet , but it seems surprising that she would lie about her weight at this time. Doesn't make sense.

- Jake

She probably didn't. Her publicist probably did.

[darklinensuit]

She probably didn't. Her publicist probably did.

Cool gig.

- Jake

[dissention]

Ooops, usually I'm trying to run full speed in the other direction. ;)

- Jake

It shows. ;)

[darklinensuit]

It shows. ;)

Still better than thinking one has reached divinity. ;)

- Jake

[dissention]

Still better than thinking one has reached divinity. ;)

- Jake

It's not thinking, it's confirming the obvious. :xoxo:

[darklinensuit]

It's not thinking, it's confirming the obvious. :xoxo:

That you are delusional. :xoxo:

- Jake

[dissention]

That you are delusional. :xoxo:

- Jake

Look who's calling the kettle black... ;)

[darklinensuit]

Look who's calling the kettle black... ;)

Not black, just ungodly. Which I had already called myself. :shrug:

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

I get a chlorine allergy from my mom. Didn't keep me from lifeguarding/teaching swim for years and swimming every day in college, but these days I don't get my head wet in the pool at all. Plus they say swimming makes the muscles too loose for tennis (if I ever take up tennis again) and I know it negatively affects my weight training.
I haven't done pilates, but I can pronounce it. :)

- Jake

How cool! You play tennis! I play at least three times a week. I played it all through school (except college) too. We should play the next time you're in Austin. But I must warn you, get ready for an ass-whoopin'! :laugh:

[darklinensuit]

How cool! You play tennis! I play at least three times a week. I played it all through school (except college) too. We should play the next time you're in Austin. But I must warn you, get ready for an ass-whoopin'! :laugh:

I played every day in college, but hardly since. My friend Dan & I used to play a bit in those Austin summers. Ugh.

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

The humidity is pretty bad, but not as bad as Houston I hear. Although, I was in Houston last weekend and the heat/humidity seemed to equal Austin's--not much diff if you ask me. My friends from Dallas revel in the "fact" that Austin is much hotter and more humid than Dallas, but we're talking about a miniscule difference in degrees, big deal...

[darklinensuit]

The humidity is pretty bad, but not as bad as Houston I hear. Although, I was in Houston last weekend and the heat/humidity seemed to equal Austin's--not much diff if you ask me. My friends from Dallas revel in the "fact" that Austin is much hotter and more humid than Dallas, but we're talking about a miniscule difference in degrees, big deal...

Houston is comparable to Austin, or maybe a little worse.

Dallas gets snow. :rolleyes:

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

Did anyone else see Kirstie Alley on Larry King last night talking about this show?
She said she owed back taxes and was basically doing the show for the money because her Cheers money is gone. :shocked: WTF?

[dissention]

Did anyone else see Kirstie Alley on Larry King last night talking about this show?
She said she owed back taxes and was basically doing the show for the money because her Cheers money is gone. :shocked: WTF?

I don't buy it. She's not as wealthy as she once was because of that prince Stevens she married who literally stole her from her, but she's not hurting for any money. She still gets hefty checks from Cheers' syndication runs the last I read and she supposedly hit it big when she invested in MP3.com and bailed right after making $40 million.

As for Fat Actress, I thought it was a riot. :laugh: The bit about "purging in style" had me rolling on the floor.

[gldstwmn]

I don't buy it. She's not as wealthy as she once was because of that prince Stevens she married who literally stole her from her, but she's not hurting for any money. She still gets hefty checks from Cheers' syndication runs the last I read and she supposedly hit it big when she invested in MP3.com and bailed right after making $40 million.

As for Fat Actress, I thought it was a riot. :laugh: The bit about "purging in style" had me rolling on the floor.

I just wonder if it's going to Scientology. :shocked:

[CreepingDeath]

Did anyone else see Kirstie Alley on Larry King last night talking about this show?
She said she owed back taxes and was basically doing the show for the money because her Cheers money is gone. :shocked: WTF?


I saw that too and was really suprised. But on the other hand, I was watching a bio on E! about her, and she was extremely extravagant when she was married to Parker Stevenson. I don't really know much about though. So.... :shrug:

[dissention]

I just wonder if it's going to Scientology. :shocked:

I wouldn't be surprised. Here's a quote from the new TV Guide with Kirstie on the cover (and looking fabulous, might I add):

"When I walked into the doors of the Church of Scientology a full-fledged cokehead, I had one session and I never did or had the urge to to do cocaine again in my life. If I hadn't become a Scientologist, I'd be banging back Zoloft so that I'd feel better about being fat at parties."

MY ASS. They've got her brainwashed and are probably in control of her finances. Notice she made no mention whatsoever of Narconon. :cool:

[gldstwmn]

I wouldn't be surprised. Here's a quote from the new TV Guide with Kirstie on the cover (and looking fabulous, might I add):

"When I walked into the doors of the Church of Scientology a full-fledged cokehead, I had one session and I never did or had the urge to to do cocaine again in my life. If I hadn't become a Scientologist, I'd be banging back Zoloft so that I'd feel better about being fat at parties."

MY ASS. They've got her brainwashed and are probably in control of her finances. Notice she made no mention whatsoever of Narconon. :cool:

I wish you'd seen the Larry King interview. I just don't know what to make of it.

[dissention]

I wish you'd seen the Larry King interview. I just don't know what to make of it.

Did they post a transcript? Knowing CNN, they'll probably rerun it on Saturday like they do with all their celebrity interviews, though. :rolleyes:

[gldstwmn]

Did they post a transcript? Knowing CNN, they'll probably rerun it on Saturday like they do with all their celebrity interviews, though. :rolleyes:

Here's the part I was talking about:
ALLEY: I had depression for about 10 days -- well, I'll call it depression. But I'll call more humiliation. I -- one day I woke up and I went -- well, I owed the IRS some money -- my accountant and myself had made a little error, like, a decimal point. And I went, oh my God, now I'm going to be poor, old, and I'm fat. OK. I am done.

So I stayed in the bed under my covers, except for when my kids would come home from school, I'd be like, hey, how you doing? Good to see you. How did you do in school today? But when they were gone, I was just -- I was just hiding. And then one day and I went -- I just woke up, and that's when I created the show.

KING: Really, coming out of that?

ALLEY: I just said, you know what? You either throw in the towel or you know -- and you know, I used to have this option sitting there -- this is so sick, but I'll tell you. OK.

I had this option sitting there when -- you know, if you don't want to act anymore, you don't want to do this, you can marry a billionaire. It's so -- I know, that's so sick. But then I went, OK, you're fat. You're not going to get a billionaire. Billionaires don't want fat girls. So then I was freaking out because I was like, OK, if you don't want to work anymore and the billionaire's out, what the hell are you going to do? So I freaked out. And then I thought, Do you want the billionaire? I thought, Maybe but later. OK. But I do -- I know that I still want to act and I still want to work. So that's when I got creative.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/07/lkl.01.html

[dissention]

Here's the part I was talking about:
ALLEY: I had depression for about 10 days -- well, I'll call it depression. But I'll call more humiliation. I -- one day I woke up and I went -- well, I owed the IRS some money -- my accountant and myself had made a little error, like, a decimal point. And I went, oh my God, now I'm going to be poor, old, and I'm fat. OK. I am done.

So I stayed in the bed under my covers, except for when my kids would come home from school, I'd be like, hey, how you doing? Good to see you. How did you do in school today? But when they were gone, I was just -- I was just hiding. And then one day and I went -- I just woke up, and that's when I created the show.

KING: Really, coming out of that?

ALLEY: I just said, you know what? You either throw in the towel or you know -- and you know, I used to have this option sitting there -- this is so sick, but I'll tell you. OK.

I had this option sitting there when -- you know, if you don't want to act anymore, you don't want to do this, you can marry a billionaire. It's so -- I know, that's so sick. But then I went, OK, you're fat. You're not going to get a billionaire. Billionaires don't want fat girls. So then I was freaking out because I was like, OK, if you don't want to work anymore and the billionaire's out, what the hell are you going to do? So I freaked out. And then I thought, Do you want the billionaire? I thought, Maybe but later. OK. But I do -- I know that I still want to act and I still want to work. So that's when I got creative.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/07/lkl.01.html

Kind of contradicts her high praise of Scientology and what it supposedly teaches, eh?

I wish her the best because I really do like her, but either she's spouting feces to get good ratings or the wacky Scientologists have some nasty dirt on her and she's giving them millions to keep shut. :nod:

[gldstwmn]

Kind of contradicts her high praise of Scientology and what it supposedly teaches, eh?

I wish her the best because I really do like her, but either she's spouting feces to get good ratings or the wacky Scientologists have some nasty dirt on her and she's giving them millions to keep shut. :nod:

:lol: Poor thing. Exactly what does the word "poor" mean to her? :lol:

[dissention]

:lol: Poor thing. Exactly what does the word "poor" mean to her? :lol:

Probably not being able to replace the 800 ct. Versace Egyptian cotton slipcover on her car seat every three hours after staining it with mayo and special sauce during the last jaunt to Mickey D's.

She's about as poor as I am black. :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Probably not being able to replace the 800 ct. Versace Egyptian cotton slipcover on her car seat every three hours after staining it with mayo and special sauce during the last jaunt to Mickey D's.

She's about as poor as I am black. :laugh:

:laugh: I just watched the show. It's pretty funny.

[dissention]

:laugh: I just watched the show. It's pretty funny.

The bit with Kelly Preston about purging in style had me on the floor. :laugh:

"I forget how many cigarettes is too much, though."

[Livia]

Damn, for a second I thought Jake was back on the Ledge.

That is all. :D

[gldstwmn]

The bit with Kelly Preston about purging in style had me on the floor. :laugh:

"I forget how many cigarettes is too much, though."

"Use a Mountblanc pen." :laugh:
"That pretty Hollywood face with an Oakland booty." :laugh:

I didn't even realize it was Kelly Preston until they rolled the credits. I didn't recognize her with the black hair.

[golden braid]

Damn, for a second I thought Jake was back on the Ledge.

That is all. :D

Me too. :confused: Oh well. This show sounds interesting but I don't get Showtime.

[CelticGypsy]

Just wanted to say that I went to Barnes and Noble today and she's on the cover of People Magazine looking absolutely gorgeous at 203 lbs, IMO


I agree with you that Kirstie is around 203 lbs or less now. I can't believe those stupid magazines and tabloids said she was over 300 lbs :mad: :mad: I doubt she was even 230 lbs but those kind of rags like to lie about everything :mad: :nod: :eek: She is a tall woman and can carry the extra weight well. It is sad when people think skinny, dumb girls like Paris Hilton is the norm. I rather watch normal weight older women (average size for women is a 12-14) on tv. I am sure when she was on Cheers, she was a size 6-8 since she was pretty slim back then. She looks to be a size 16 now and she seems to be doing well on her diet too. People who are very, very overweight cannot even move very well. Kirstie doesn't seem to have a problem moving her body at all. haha Watched the show last night and love it :) It is great to see which actor/actresses will be on the shows now.

Kirstie was right about men in Hollywood. No one makes fun of them and a lot of them like Jim Belushi and Kevin James have their own tv shows and not worry about their weight problems :shrug: It comes down to double standards and the way this country is about overweight women. Women like Kirstie, Stevie, Natalie, or Oprah are still beautiful women even when they were a little overweight :xoxo: I rather see women and men enjoy enjoy a good meal than have problems with alcohol or drugs :nod:

[gldstwmn]

I agree with you that Kirstie is around 203 lbs or less now. I can't believe those stupid magazines and tabloids said she was over 300 lbs :mad: :mad: I doubt she was even 230 lbs but those kind of rags like to lie about everything :mad: :nod: :eek: She is a tall woman and can carry the extra weight well. It is sad when people think skinny, dumb girls like Paris Hilton is the norm. I rather watch normal weight older women (average size for women is a 12-14) on tv. I am sure when she was on Cheers, she was a size 6-8 since she was pretty slim back then. She looks to be a size 16 now and she seems to be doing well on her diet too. People who are very, very overweight cannot even move very well. Kirstie doesn't seem to have a problem moving her body at all. haha Watched the show last night and love it :) It is great to see which actor/actresses will be on the shows now.


She looks heavier than 200 to me, after seeing the show. I hope she loses the weight.

[DrummerDeanna]

Damn, for a second I thought Jake was back on the Ledge.

That is all. :D


Me too :laugh: I got so excited....and no. lol


I don't have Showtime either - and am already imposing on people with it to catch the L Word - I totally wanted to see Fat Actress though...

[ontheEdgeof17]

She looks heavier than 200 to me, after seeing the show. I hope she loses the weight.


There is already a new commerical out. She's lost 25 lbs since signing on as a spokeswoman. :nod:

[gldstwmn]

There is already a new commerical out. She's lost 25 lbs since signing on as a spokeswoman. :nod:

It's ironic because her agent on the show pitches her by saying "I've heard she's lost a lot of weight." :lol:
I hope that it all works out for her and her coffers are not being drained by the likes of Scientology.

[dissention]

There is already a new commerical out. She's lost 25 lbs since signing on as a spokeswoman. :nod:

According to Kirstie herself as of last week, she's only lost 15. The number changes more often than Stevie's voice. :rolleyes:

[DrummerDeanna]

According to Kirstie herself as of last week, she's only lost 15. The number changes more often than Stevie's voice. :rolleyes:

:laugh: :laugh: now now...she is a woman - you can't expect her to be completely honest about her weight...;)

[dissention]

:laugh: :laugh: now now...she is a woman - you can't expect her to be completely honest about her weight...;)

I was HORRIFIED when Entertainment Tonight chased her down at some premiere last week with a scale and asked her to stand on it for the cameras. That's real class for ya. :rolleyes:

[sparky]

And I suppose some opinions matter more than yours. Say hello to everyone else's. :wavey:

- Jake


I am sure this has been asked recently but

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN, JAKE ?

[DrummerDeanna]

I am sure this has been asked recently but

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN, JAKE ?


No Jake - the dates on his posts are old :distress: Someone just unearthed the old thread.....

[sparky]

No Jake - the dates on his posts are old :distress: Someone just unearthed the old thread.....

Damn, damn, damn. That boy just went up in a puff of smoke.

[gldstwmn]

According to Kirstie herself as of last week, she's only lost 15. The number changes more often than Stevie's voice. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[gldstwmn]

No Jake - the dates on his posts are old :distress: Someone just unearthed the old thread.....

I figured this one was already going so...

[gldstwmn]

Damn, damn, damn. That boy just went up in a puff of smoke.

Kind of like Jack Nicholson in Witches Of Eastwick, only you can't see him on the tv. :shrug:

[Livia]

Stevie's mentioned in this article on Fat Actress - and it's not very nice. :eek:

National Post (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/artslife/story.html?id=5cd5256d-418d-4e57-8734-62e80dd13cd4)

"After that ... well, she followed in the footsteps -- or rather, the deep, crushing footprints -- of Orson Welles, Stevie Nicks, Ann Wilson from Heart and other increasingly corpulent celebrities too needy and insecure to stay out of the spotlight but too vain to appear without standing behind something large enough to conceal their mammothness, such as a chair or a sofa or, in Welles' case, Wyoming."

[gldstwmn]

Stevie's mentioned in this article on Fat Actress - and it's not very nice. :eek:

National Post (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/artslife/story.html?id=5cd5256d-418d-4e57-8734-62e80dd13cd4)

"After that ... well, she followed in the footsteps -- or rather, the deep, crushing footprints -- of Orson Welles, Stevie Nicks, Ann Wilson from Heart and other increasingly corpulent celebrities too needy and insecure to stay out of the spotlight but too vain to appear without standing behind something large enough to conceal their mammothness, such as a chair or a sofa or, in Welles' case, Wyoming."

Now that is just downright mean. :distress: F*ck 'em.
I mean, could that person write Rhiannon? I don't think so.

[dissention]

Stevie's mentioned in this article on Fat Actress - and it's not very nice. :eek:

National Post (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/artslife/story.html?id=5cd5256d-418d-4e57-8734-62e80dd13cd4)

"After that ... well, she followed in the footsteps -- or rather, the deep, crushing footprints -- of Orson Welles, Stevie Nicks, Ann Wilson from Heart and other increasingly corpulent celebrities too needy and insecure to stay out of the spotlight but too vain to appear without standing behind something large enough to conceal their mammothness, such as a chair or a sofa or, in Welles' case, Wyoming."

That's rather disgusting. Very malicious.

[cliffdweller]

Stars like Ann Wilson and Stevie Nicks "too needy and insecure to stay out of the spotlight?" Surely you jest my friend. :rolleyes:

As if being an overweight celebrity is cause for banishment from their craft. :laugh:

[amber]

Stars like Ann Wilson and Stevie Nicks "too needy and insecure to stay out of the spotlight?" Surely you jest my friend. :rolleyes:

As if being an overweight celebrity is cause for banishment from their craft. :laugh:
I know. And they're singers for goodness sakes, not swimsuit models... :rolleyes: You can still sing when you are overweight... :rolleyes:

[cliffdweller]

I know. And they're singers for goodness sakes, not swimsuit models... :rolleyes: You can still sing when you are overweight... :rolleyes:

The f*cktard who wrote this is obviously fat-phobic. :rolleyes:

[dissention]

The f*cktard who wrote this is obviously fat-phobic. :rolleyes:

Oh, puhleeze. He's probably 260 with polyester pants and hips. :cool:

[gldstwmn]

I know. And they're singers for goodness sakes, not swimsuit models... :rolleyes: You can still sing when you are overweight... :rolleyes:

Many opera singers are of the large body type.

[amber]

Many opera singers are of the large body type.
I know. Also? being overweight doesn't affect your songwriting ability, either... :rolleyes:

[dissention]

Many opera singers are of the large body type.

Well, look at Stevie. Her voice was at its most powerful and strongest during the Street Angel tour and that's when she was the heaviest. :nod:

[cliffdweller]

Many opera singers are of the large body type.

Yeah, noone would demand that opera singers slim down to appeal to 15 year old boys.

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, noone would demand that opera singers slim down to appeal to 15 year old boys.

No, but they can go through the scurtiny as well like when the London Symphony recently canned Deborah Voigt because she was too fat :shrug:

[cliffdweller]

No, but they can go through the scurtiny as well like when the London Symphony recently canned Deborah Voigt because she was too fat :shrug:

:eek: ?!?!!?!?!?!?

[strandinthewind]

British Pounds-a-Plenty
LONDON, March 26, 2004


For those of you who like your sopranos plump, I bring bad tidings.

The Royal Opera House, here in London, has just sacked Deborah Voight, one of the best known voices in the musical world. Miss Voight is in a huff. And Miss Voight is big in opera. That's the point.

When they tried to squeeze her ample diaphragm into a natty black costume for the part of Ariadne, things became ... how, shall we say ... a little overcrowded. This opera was penned by Richard Strauss and Ariadne is the lead role. But the costume could not accommodate the extra rolls that came as part of the Deborah Voight package. All 250 pounds of it. And instead of ordering a few extra miles of dress-making cloth, the opera house ditched the diva. A cruel blow for a lady who sings like an angel, but weighs like a Sumo wrestler.

In London, you see, size is everything. Even our government is obsessed with obesity. They are dishing out vegetable vouchers to poor families and pregnant women in an effort to woo them off fatty foods. We are, apparently, fat too busy putting the Great back into Great Britain ... with our mouths. In the recent past it has been my sad duty to report in this slot some of the results of our national gluttony ... dear departed overweight relatives too big to cram into the cremators, for example. Wobbling swathes of my once-thin fellow countrymen now gobble their way to blocked arteries and early graves courtesy of American-style fast food.

Did you know that there are parts of Britain which now bounce up and down by four inches at least twice a day? It is not a joke. It is a geological fact recently proven by global positioning satellites. The only logical explanation is too much weight. Our politicians are alarmed. If we don't start shedding pounds fast, it could lead to a national public spending crisis. As ever, we blame America.

But back at the Royal Opera House, it's all over. The fat lady won't be singing after all.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/26/uttm/main608783.shtml

[gldstwmn]

Yeah, noone would demand that opera singers slim down to appeal to 15 year old boys.

Or boys who are still 15 in their mind. :o

[SuzeQuze]

Or boys who are still 15 in their mind. :o

:laugh: Name one who isn't. :p

[sara1998]

I am sure this has been asked recently but

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN, JAKE ?

Don't worry, Deanna, it got my attention too! LOL. :shrug:

[diamondsnake]

Anyone watch tonight's episodes? I thought it was really funny! I was not too impressed with the first episode but this one was great. When Kirstie asked that lady for a diaper I was ROTFLMAO!

[seeker007nmss]

British Pounds-a-Plenty
LONDON, March 26, 2004


. Wobbling swathes of my once-thin fellow countrymen now gobble their way to blocked arteries and early graves courtesy of American-style fast food.





It's the "FRENCH" fries. :eek:

[bikerchic]

Did this get cancelled? :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Did this get cancelled? :shrug:

It wasn't renewed. :distress:

[darklinensuit]

Did this get cancelled? :shrug:

I'm kind of surprised it was even an issue. I've rented both DVDs in the last few weeks & out of the 7 episodes I liked all of them except the one where her family visits & the one where Merv fixes her up with the billionaire. Otherwise the show was worth sticking around.

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

Well, you could always watch Lisa Kudrow in The Comeback which is equally as sucky, IMO. :laugh:

[mylittledemon]

Alley Thinks Big for Showtime's 'Fat Actress'
(Thursday, July 22 10:05 AM)
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) You would think that an eight-time Emmy nominee would have better things to talk about than her fluctuating weight. Or at least Kirstie Alley thinks so. The "Cheers" star's battle with public perceptions is at the center of "Fat Actress," a semi-autobiographical comedy in development at Showtime.
The premium cable network has ordered six episodes of "Fat Actress," which will blend the comedy and reality genres. Alley and the rest of the show's cast will work off of a story outline, but most of the dialogue will be improvised.

Alley is serving as co-creator and executive producer on the series, joining "7th Heaven" (and "Mad About You") veteran Brenda Hampton. "Fat Actress" will focus on Alley's quest for work, love and acceptance in Hollywood, as well as her battle with her weight and media awareness of her size.


"Kirstie Alley came to us -- with 24 dozen Krispy Kremes in hand -- and said she was so tired of seeing unflatteringly fat pictures of herself on the cover of The Star that it was time for her to send-up her own image as well as Hollywood's obsession with weight and beauty," says Showtime Entertainment President Robert Greenblatt.
Greenblatt continues, "Kirstie is an incredibly gifted comedian and a beautiful woman [regardless of her size], and we jumped at the chance to go behind the scenes of her life in a unique comedy series format."

A two-time Emmy winner for "Cheers" and the telefilm "David's Mother," Alley is looking forward to beginning production in September for a 2005 premiere.

"Finally a network that feels just like home," she says. "They don't give a damn how much I eat or how many men I sleep with as long as it's on camera."

I've said it before about celebs...I dont feel a damn bit sorry for them. They've got it made..millions...nice homes...few worries when it comes to finances.

You know what makes me sick? I was flipping channels the other day and actually saw Kirstie on Oprah. I watched a bit because i was blown away at how "large" she was. A few minutes into the show I realize Oprah is totally redoing Kirstie's kitchen, giving her the "dream kitchen" she always wanted. UNBELIEVABLE. There are hundreds of thousands of people out there that need more help than that woman. Charity work for celebrities!? Ridiculous. Oprah and her team of crack heads can lick my sack. ...Yeah, that's how mad that made me.

[bikerchic]

I've said it before about celebs...I dont feel a damn bit sorry for them. They've got it made..millions...nice homes...few worries when it comes to finances.

You know what makes me sick? I was flipping channels the other day and actually saw Kirstie on Oprah. I watched a bit because i was blown away at how "large" she was. A few minutes into the show I realize Oprah is totally redoing Kirstie's kitchen, giving her the "dream kitchen" she always wanted. UNBELIEVABLE. There are hundreds of thousands of people out there that need more help than that woman. Charity work for celebrities!? Ridiculous. Oprah and her team of crack heads can lick my sack. ...Yeah, that's how mad that made me.
Oprah didn't pay for that, Kirstie did. Oprah simply recommended her designer.

[dudden22]

Fat Actress sucked. I was like a train wreck that I couldn't stop watching.

[gldstwmn]

Fat Actress sucked. I was like a train wreck that I couldn't stop watching.

I know. I watched it but was so torn. I wanted to like it. :lol: Kudrow's show is just as bad. I was wondering if they're being written by the same people.

[dudden22]

I know. I watched it but was so torn. I wanted to like it. :lol: Kudrow's show is just as bad. I was wondering if they're being written by the same people.

The comeback is pretty bad. I really like both of these actresses and wanted to like the shows, but there is not much there to like.

How about when Kirstie was talking like the dwarfs she had staying at her house. I was actually embarrassed for her.

[gldstwmn]

The comeback is pretty bad. I really like both of these actresses and wanted to like the shows, but there is not much there to like.

How about when Kirstie was talking like the dwarfs she had staying at her house. I was actually embarrassed for her.

I know. The only show that was remotely funny was the crack one. It was bizarre.

[darklinensuit]

I've said it before about celebs...I dont feel a damn bit sorry for them. They've got it made..millions...nice homes...few worries when it comes to finances.

I think happiness stems from much more than just financial success, so I do feel sorry for some of them. I'm not more shedding tears for them than for the many folks who are in truly horrible situations in this world, but there are celebrities in miserable circumstances, no doubt. JMO

- Jake

[mylittledemon]

I think happiness stems from much more than just financial success, so I do feel sorry for some of them. I'm not more shedding tears for them than for the many folks who are in truly horrible situations in this world, but there are celebrities in miserable circumstances, no doubt. JMO

- Jake


I agree, but having more money allows you enjoy your life without having bills hanging over your head, worrying about unexpected expenses coming up...etc..

[sparky]

A dream kitchen ? That is silly. She needs a dream GYM, methinks.

[bikerchic]

When you have money, you still have problem's, just different ones.

[gldstwmn]

I agree, but having more money allows you enjoy your life without having bills hanging over your head, worrying about unexpected expenses coming up...etc..

Not necessarily. The bills hanging over your head are larger and the unexpected expenses are larger too. ;)

[darklinensuit]

When you have money, you still have problem's, just different ones.

:nod: Emotional well-being or lack thereof doesn't know from money. Often, neither does health.

- Jake