Why No Little Lies on The Dance?

[MikeBangle]

Anyone have an idea why not?

I love the fact that Everywhere was performed, but Little Lies is one of th Macs big hits....

Thoughts?

MikeBangle

[ryan8472]

Supposedly they rehearsed it, but didn't like the way it sounded.

[darklinensuit]

Little Lies didn't sound that great on the Shake The Cage Tour, IMO, but I still think it's a better song that Everywhere.

- Jake

[Wild_Heart03]

I think that it would've been cool if they'd put Little Lies on The Dance, but I was more than satisfied with Everywhere.

[rezamatic]

Lots of Christine's later stuff didn't seem to go over very well live, in my opinion. I think they did a pretty decent job with "Everywhere", but the odd thing was that Christine wasn't on the keys during it! They had a bunch of prerecorded background music while she took spotlight up front on stage.

Little Lies has so much going on in it that I doubt they could ever nail it live. So much of it has that unique sound that I don't think it would work having Lindsey pick up parts on guitar to compensate. It'd be fun to see them try, though.

Also if you listen to old versions of "Hold Me" live it's pretty bumpy. They can't get the harmonies down and it just sounds rough. Plus they try to liven it up with changing the melody/lyrics around and it kinda kills it for me. It's not a rockin' song, it's a sweet harmony song. On the copy I have, Lindsey talks it up like crazy before they play it, saying it's one of his favorites off Mirage and he thinks its a hell of a song. I got a kick out of that.

On a side note - I love what they did with "Over My Head" on the 1980 live album. I never thought that would be fun live, but they pepped it up with that honky-tonk guitar opening and gave it a quicker beat. I think that was one of the best Christine songs translated live.

[Wild_Heart03]

On a side note - I love what they did with "Over My Head" on the 1980 live album. I never thought that would be fun live, but they pepped it up with that honky-tonk guitar opening and gave it a quicker beat. I think that was one of the best Christine songs translated live.

*getting even more off-topic for a second* I agree! I love the Live '80 version of Over My Head... absolutely awesome. :thumbsup:

[Lala]

I like SYLM, Why and YMLF live and there's probably a couple others. There's nothing wrong with Don't Stop. But a lot of her other stuff doesn't seem to sound right live. Little Lies does not sound as good on the Tango in the Night DVD. Maybe it's kinda like Gypsy...the studio work is so well done that it can't be copied on stage. I heard part of one live copy of Hold Me (I'm just getting into this whole bootleg thing) and I didn't even listen to the whole thing because the harmonies were just horrible.

I do a lot of harmony singing and I just hear harmonies in my head so it drives me up the wall when people can't get it.

[77Rumours77]

Supposedly they rehearsed it, but didn't like the way it sounded.
That coo to hear, I wonder what otehr songs the rehearsed? Seven Wonders? Sara? World Turning? Monday Morning? SOTM? Who Knows!

[SoulDrifter21]

That coo to hear, I wonder what other songs the rehearsed? Seven Wonders? Sara? World Turning? Monday Morning? SOTM? Who Knows!


Rehearsals for The Dance April 18th, 1997

The Chain
Dreams
Big Love
Say You Love Me
Second Hand News
Where Were You
Rhiannon
Little Lies
Twisted
Never Going Back Again
Brown Eyes
Forbidden
Shadows Of Love
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Landslide
Songbird
Little Lies


From some book I have called The Complete Recording Sessions

James

[HomerMcvie]

Maybe it's kinda like Gypsy...the studio work is so well done that it can't be copied on stage.
Yep. Lindsey did TOO good of a job in the studio. Made Gypsy and Little Lies SO freakin' good on record, that they really couldn't be touched live. Same with Hold Me.

[77Rumours77]

Rehearsals for The Dance April 18th, 1997

The Chain
Dreams
Big Love
Say You Love Me
Second Hand News
Where Were You
Rhiannon
Little Lies
Twisted
Never Going Back Again
Brown Eyes
Forbidden
Shadows Of Love
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Landslide
Songbird
Little Lies


From some book I have called The Complete Recording Sessions

James
O man they did Brown Eyes and Twisted!?!?! Twisted is one of my favorite songs

[rezamatic]

Rehearsals for The Dance April 18th, 1997

The Chain
Dreams
Big Love
Say You Love Me
Second Hand News
Where Were You
Rhiannon
Little Lies
Twisted
Never Going Back Again
Brown Eyes
Forbidden
Shadows Of Love
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Landslide
Songbird
Little Lies



Boy they really changed it up by the end of it! That seems like a really weird list to me for a reunion/comeback show. Lots of classics missing, like Gypsy, YMLF, Silver Springs, Tusk, ISA, etc. and no Bleed to Love Her! I dunno, it doesn't seem to make sense to me, I don't think I believe it (no offense, hehehe :) )...

[GypsySorcerer]

I agree that a lot of Christine's later stuff didn't come across well live. YMLF is probably her best live, and of course, Songbird. I liked SYLM on the Dance because of the banjo, but not really on other tours. Don't Stop has always been okay. The rest....not so good. Although I think they should have kept Why in the setlist permanently. :nod:

[sodascouts]

Boy they really changed it up by the end of it! That seems like a really weird list to me for a reunion/comeback show. Lots of classics missing, like Gypsy, YMLF, Silver Springs, Tusk, ISA, etc. and no Bleed to Love Her! I dunno, it doesn't seem to make sense to me, I don't think I believe it (no offense, hehehe :) )...

I have to say, me neither. Some of those songs I don't even recognize, and this band does not have a history of "going out on a limb" for live sets! "Silver Springs" was a huge deal, and for that not to be on here is extremely telling.

[gldstwmn]

I have to say, me neither. Some of those songs I don't even recognize, and this band does not have a history of "going out on a limb" for live sets! "Silver Springs" was a huge deal, and for that not to be on here is extremely telling.

I think we had a discussion here a while back where that setlist and a lot of stuff in Peter Lewry's book was inaccurate.

[dissention]

I think we had a discussion here a while back where that setlist and a lot of stuff in Peter Lewry's book was inaccurate.

Us fans don't even know half of the songs he talked about in that book. :laugh:

[SoulDrifter21]

I think we had a discussion here a while back where that setlist and a lot of stuff in Peter Lewry's book was inaccurate.

Ya, I've heard that too, that's just what the book said. That's why I put it on here. The songs we haven't heard of, didn't thay all say they brought about three new songs each to go over? Maybe those are the new songs we never heard?

James

[gldstwmn]

Ya, I've heard that too, that's just what the book said. That's why I put it on here. The songs we haven't heard of, didn't thay all say they brought about three new songs each to go over? Maybe those are the new songs we never heard?

James

Could be. I'm sure someone out there knows. :)

[Johnny Stew]

The rehearsal setlist printed in Peter Lewry's book, was originally posted on the internet around the time of 'The Dance.'
In fact, I think the Ledge may have been the first place it was posted.

The person who leaked the info claimed that he managed to get a copy of the setlist after attending a rehearsal. He had made additional notes about which songs they rehearsed more than once (which is why some are listed twice).

If the setlist is to be believed, I've always thought that "Where Were You" could have perhaps been the working title for "Temporary One" ("where (were) you, darlin', when my moon is rising...), but who knows.

Legitimate setlist, or not, it's too bad "Twisted" didn't find its way into the set for 'The Dance' OR the 'Say You Will' tour, and "Little Lies" would have been cool to hear, too.

[shackin'up]

I'd like to think that they just regret the fact that they ever recorded it. Oh my Lord, I go around for a shameful walk everytime the repetative brainillness is on the radio. Yes, it did sell. So did achy breaky heart.

[HomerMcvie]

I'd like to think that they just regret the fact that they ever recorded it. Oh my Lord, I go around for a shameful walk everytime the repetative brainillness is on the radio. Yes, it did sell. So did achy breaky heart.
ARGH!!!! %^&*&$*)$(!!! (clutching heart "Elizabeth, I'm coming to see you").
I guess there's NO accounting for taste, or lack thereof...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[shackin'up]

ARGH!!!! %^&*&$*)$(!!! (clutching heart "Elizabeth, I'm coming to see you").
I guess there's NO accounting for taste, or lack thereof...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh I'll take the tattoo "tasteless pr*ck" on my forehead any minute if it's based on the disliking of Little Lies. I'm not ashamed of calling that drone an assault on the human ear.

;)

[Johnny Stew]

I've always thought "Little Lies" was a fun, catchy little song, with a great chorus and terrific harmonies.

Fleetwood Mac IS a pop/rock band, after all, and "Little Lies" is a perfect example of a mature but spritely pop/rock song. :)

[dissention]

I've always thought "Little Lies" was a fun, catchy little song, with a great chorus and terrific harmonies.

Fleetwood Mac IS a pop/rock band, after all, and "Little Lies" is a perfect example of a mature but spritely pop/rock song. :)

I agree. I've always loved Little Lies and it's one of Chris' catchiest tunes, if I do say so myself. And I love the remixes. :thumbsup:

[David]

The rehearsal setlist printed in Peter Lewry's book, was originally posted on the internet around the time of 'The Dance.'
In fact, I think the Ledge may have been the first place it was posted.Was it here? I don't remember. There was a thread going in April 1997 on Usenet (alt.music.fleetwood-mac), in which "reg" Greg said that somebody from Reprise posted the info on the AOL board.

www.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=335C4D46.B2294204%40ix.netcom.com

[CarneVaca]

Boy they really changed it up by the end of it! That seems like a really weird list to me for a reunion/comeback show. Lots of classics missing, like Gypsy, YMLF, Silver Springs, Tusk, ISA, etc. and no Bleed to Love Her! I dunno, it doesn't seem to make sense to me, I don't think I believe it (no offense, hehehe :) )...

This may be what they rehearsed that particular day. When the band got together they most likely put a huge list of songs together to run through, then started eliminating the ones that didn't fly. The list clearly included new songs, and you can tell from this particular list that other new songs were under consideration. Or course we ended up with My Little Demon, Bleed to Love Her, Temporary One and Sweet Girl as the new songs.

As far as what translates well to the stage from the record, I honestly believe any song can be performed live. It just comes down to an issue of what you want to compromise. I know Everywhere gets dissed, but I thought the song sounded fresh and catchy on the The Dance. Little Lies could have been done with some compromise. Hell, Lindsey's even figured out how to do Red Rover live, and that wasn't easy.

Yesterday I stumbled on an album of stripped-down versions of songs by a band called A3 (Alabama 3 in Europe). I was pleasantly surprised at how skilfully these guys stripped down the songs to their acoustic essence. A lot of the numbers come across as pretty much straight blues, and their studio versions were hopped-up electronica-meets-the-blues kind of stuff. Very cool.

A band that has always been able to play whatever song they want on stage, regardless of how it was recorded, is the Stones. In fact, some songs come alive on stage in a way that does not come across on record. If you will, this is typical of the blues, and much of the Stones is still blues music to this day. But even stuff like the moody, jazzy Out of Control from the last studio record, kicks ass on stage.

The drawback with many of Lindsey's arrangements is that they require considerable compromise for playing the stuff on stage. For some reason, this seems to happen more with Christine's songs. But it also applies to everything in Go Insane. To play the song Go Insane, he had to strip it down to an acoustic number. Of course, there's only so many songs you can do this with before turning the whole show into an acoustic showcase.

[CarneVaca]

Oh I'll take the tattoo "tasteless pr*ck" on my forehead any minute if it's based on the disliking of Little Lies. I'm not ashamed of calling that drone an assault on the human ear.

;)

:lol: :laugh:

I've always thought Little Lies was catchy as hell. Strip it down and you have another You Make Loving Fun. Problem with Christine's songs a lot of times is that they sounded too much alike. We tend to accuse Stevie of doing that, but to my ear, Christine was much more guilty of doing this.