the new Batman? Keaton was best!

[mylittledemon]

So I see Christian Bale is the new Batman. I hope they aren't going to ruin the "new franchise" before it even gets off the ground. I still can't get over Michael Keaton being the best Batman there was. He was dark, and brooding, and he had the perfect voice! Sure he didn't really "look" the part of Bruce Wayne, but it didn't matter...he was believable. I think the first two Batman's were the best, and even though that had Tim Burton's stamp all over them, they still stand up as "definitive Batman."

I would die to see Keaton come back and re-do an aging Batman. They could adapt the script from Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" for all you graphic novel aficionados out there.

[The Chain]

All I wish is that Tim Burton was directing it again. Pure genius. Edward Scissorhands, Batman, he's the best director there is, hands down.

But I don't mean to change the subject. Keaton was an awsome batman. He was great, and really sold the vengeful, mysterious attitude.

[wondergirl9847]

Christian Bale as Batman....I am so there!!! I love him!! Any other Newsies fans? Just me? Okay then.

[darklinensuit]

I never cared for any of the Batman movies, though I usually love comic book hero stories. I know the movie sucked, but I like Val Kilmer, though I admit he wasn't quite right for the role. And I hate that Batdance song by Prince.
I'm not sure I know Christian Bale (Was he the one in that dragon movie?), but I'm at least relieved they gave up the efforts to cast Nicholas Cage as Superman. That would have been painful, no offense to his many fans here.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I'm not sure I know Christian Bale

Jake, I think you've probably seen the film Swing Kids (if not, you need to rent it...trust me...EXCELLENT film...I think you'd like it). He played Thomas in the film :nod:

[darklinensuit]

Jake, I think you've probably seen the film Swing Kids (if not, you need to rent it...trust me...EXCELLENT film...I think you'd like it). He played Thomas in the film :nod:

I saw it so long ago, & I certainly don't remember the characters' names. I didn't like it enough to rent it again now.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I saw it so long ago, & I certainly don't remember the characters' names. I didn't like it enough to rent it again now.

- Jake

Didn't like it??

At any rate, I can't picture Christian Bale as Batman. He was also in the horrendous atrocity of a film, American Psycho.

[darklinensuit]

Didn't like it??

At any rate, I can't picture Christian Bale as Batman. He was also in the horrendous atrocity of a film, American Psycho.

I didn't hate it, I just remember thinking the ending was dumb.

Never saw American Psycho. (Other than when I met you. :wavey: ) So he wasn't the one fighting dragons?

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I didn't hate it, I just remember thinking the ending was dumb.

Never saw American Psycho. (Other than when I met you. :wavey: ) So he wasn't the one fighting dragons?

- Jake

The ending wasn't dumb...it was incredibly sad. Then again, your version of choice cinema is probably Debbie Does Dallas sooooo... ;)

Fighting dragons....would this (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0253556/) be the movie you speak of? I've never seen this but I looked up Christian's name...

[darklinensuit]

The ending wasn't dumb...it was incredibly sad. Then again, your version of choice cinema is probably Debbie Does Dallas sooooo... ;)

Fighting dragons....would this (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0253556/) be the movie you speak of? I've never seen this but I looked up Christian's name...

Yeah, that's the one. Good special effects. And I think he'd be a good Batman.

The Debbie movie sounds more fetching than Marissa Does Margate. :sorry: :lol: (Besides, I only watch it for the articles. ;) )

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Yeah, that's the one. Good special effects. And I think he'd be a good Batman.

The Debbie movie sounds more fetching than Marissa Does Margate. :sorry: :lol: (Besides, I only watch it for the articles. ;) )

- Jake

I just can't see him as Batman. I didn't like the movies but I thought Michael Keaton was the best. Kilmer? Blah. Clooney? Blah.

Is "articles" code for "two birds of Rhiannon?"

Wiseass.

[darklinensuit]

I just can't see him as Batman. I didn't like the movies but I thought Michael Keaton was the best. Kilmer? Blah. Clooney? Blah.

Is "articles" code for "two birds of Rhiannon?"

Wiseass.

I didn't care for Clooney at all. And I've never been a Keaton fan to begin with, but his pencil neck looked ridiculous in that costume, IMO.

Does Rhiannon create silicone birds?

Dumbbutt.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

I didn't care for Clooney at all. And I've never been a Keaton fan to begin with, but his pencil neck looked ridiculous in that costume, IMO.

Does Rhiannon create silicone birds?

Dumbbutt.

- Jake

Okay, but looks aside..don't you think Keaton made the best Batman?

Okay, fine, the two birds formerly known as Sister Honey's (sounds more pornish). There ya go.

Good grief. I'm talking about boobs. This is when you know you've been awake for too many hours. :laugh:

[sparky]

I think Keaton was good in the batman suit...but out of it, no bueno. He's creeparoo. You could sand a car with that guy's face.
Kilmer was okay (I have a friend who did costumes on that one with stories that would curl Dissention's hair). Clooney was fine. But I have a weakness for Clooney. A few of them.
Bale is gonna be good, I think. There is something kind of brooding and off about him, and I think that'll be interesting. Plus, the dude is sexy as all get out, IMO. In kind of a frat boy gone bad kinda way...

[DrummerDeanna]

Christian Bale as Batman....I am so there!!! I love him!! Any other Newsies fans? Just me? Okay then.

OMG I LOVE NEWSIES!!! hahaha..I just watched it recently for the 039580938438 time hahaha...I used to have the soundtrack on tape when I was in middle school....hahah...good to know there is another Newsie fan among the Ledgies :D

Anyway...back to the topic at hand...I love Michael Keaton as Batman...Val Kilmer.eh...it wasn't horrid...but George Clooney...ugh...he was awful..and all those stupid ass one-liners in that one...that was one of the worst movies I have ever sat through...

I hope Christian Bale pulls it off...

[ryan8472]

George Clooney...ugh...he was awful..and all those stupid ass one-liners in that one...that was one of the worst movies I have ever sat through...

Yeah, the Governator didn't help it either. That movie made no sense. Even Uma Thurman couldn't save it. I hope this new guys does a decent job. Nobody will top Keaton though. Batman and Batman Returns are the only good Batman movies made so far. The others blew chunks, unfortunatly.

[DownOnRodeo]

Keaton was the best Batman ever!

I think he's an awesome actor, and I love all his movies like Multiplicity and Mr Mom or whatever it was called.

[DrummerDeanna]

Yeah, the Governator didn't help it either. That movie made no sense. Even Uma Thurman couldn't save it. I hope this new guys does a decent job. Nobody will top Keaton though. Batman and Batman Returns are the only good Batman movies made so far. The others blew chunks, unfortunatly.

:nod: :nod: Agreed....ugh..Ahnold was awful...I only remember the "chill out" line....that pretty much made me want to vomit and leave the theater...an hour and a half of my life that I'll never get back....that's how I view that cinematic experience....and I'm not a big fan..or even a small fan..of Uma...so yeah..that movie was pretty much doomed for me from the beginning...but I just felt like I was watching Dr. Ross in a batman costume the whole time...as lovely as George Clooney may be that was not his best acting job...

[GypsySorcerer]

Michael Keaton is Batman, but I didn't mind George Clooney. Val Kilmer was okay, but I didn't care for the movie. I hated Jim Carrey as the Riddler. I think I'm the only one who liked Batman & Robin. I thought Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy were cool. :o

[dissention]

Didn't like it??

At any rate, I can't picture Christian Bale as Batman. He was also in the horrendous atrocity of a film, American Psycho.

That film was hysterical, girlfriend. Great movie.

I'm a fan of his, so I'll go see the new Batman flick. Loved him in almost everything he's been in, especially Empire of the Sun. That movie is greatness. :wavey:

[Villavic]

My favorite Batmans were the first and the third. And I didn't care for the batmas but for the bad guys. The Joker and th Riddler were the best! Followed by Catwoman of course.

Poison Ivy was cool but the movie was too.. overloaded. It was more like a cartoon. Yeas, they missed what TIm Burton tried to transmit in the first two.

And though Tim Burton didn't directed it, I liked the third one.

[Janet]

Christian Bale, I loved him in Little Women. BUT he is totally not this tough guy. To me, he is sensitive and quiet.

But I suppose he's shown his other side. I am curious, very curious.

As for Keaton, I never saw that movie ( gasp!) but I hear from everyone he was the best. I always just opted for the tv show as a kid.

:)
Adam West!!! Bring HIM back LOL. :thumbsup:

[mylittledemon]

OH Janet...! You've got to see Batman (1989) and Batman Returns (1992). Keaton put the bat on the ball with that role. *No pun intended!* I think he really set what the role was supposed to be like. Good to see all the Keaton supporters out there!

I failed to mention that I actually met Michael Keaton back in 1997, in Los Angeles, while living with my dad. He signed a Batman poster for me and said "I love signing the Batman stuff." I asked him if he would ever play Batman again, and he said it was an "upcoming possibility." At that time they were talking about doing a Superman movie, with a Batman cameo or something. Too bad that fell thru...!

[cliffdweller]

So I see Christian Bale is the new Batman. I hope they aren't going to ruin the "new franchise" before it even gets off the ground. I still can't get over Michael Keaton being the best Batman there was. He was dark, and brooding, and he had the perfect voice! Sure he didn't really "look" the part of Bruce Wayne, but it didn't matter...he was believable. I think the first two Batman's were the best, and even though that had Tim Burton's stamp all over them, they still stand up as "definitive Batman."

I would die to see Keaton come back and re-do an aging Batman. They could adapt the script from Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" for all you graphic novel aficionados out there.

I LOVE Christian Bale so you'll hear no complaint from me. I'll be interested to see this one. The last one was a flop imo (Val Kilmer right?) Ugh.

[darklinensuit]

Okay, but looks aside..don't you think Keaton made the best Batman?

Good grief. I'm talking about boobs. This is when you know you've been awake for too many hours. :laugh:

Or this is when you know you're a guy. :)

And honest, I preferred Kilmer to Keaton, though his movie sucked.

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

That film was hysterical, girlfriend. Great movie.


:nod: Word.

[darklinensuit]

I think Keaton was good in the batman suit...but out of it, no bueno. He's creeparoo. You could sand a car with that guy's face.
Kilmer was okay (I have a friend who did costumes on that one with stories that would curl Dissention's hair). Clooney was fine. But I have a weakness for Clooney. A few of them.
Bale is gonna be good, I think. There is something kind of brooding and off about him, and I think that'll be interesting. Plus, the dude is sexy as all get out, IMO. In kind of a frat boy gone bad kinda way...

I think the brooding quality fits Bruce Wayne well.
And I'm afraid to ask, but what kind of Kilmer stories? He seems like a nice guy when I see him interviewed.

- Jake

[Janet]

The nipples. I remember hearing about that more than anything? Who had the nipples again? :) Wasn't there talk about Batman's nipples?

I should see the movies, especially the first one. God knows where I was summer of 89 but I didn't see any of those big movies.

Someday, when I have kids, I will put Batman right up there with Superman ( my true favorite!!!!!!)

[darklinensuit]

Keaton was the best Batman ever!

I think he's an awesome actor, and I love all his movies like Multiplicity and Mr Mom or whatever it was called.

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was the only thing I liked him in. And I understand that wasn't makeup. ;)

- Jake

[amber]

I never cared for any of the Batman movies
- Jake
Wait, wait...um, did you notice Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in the second one? Not to mention Christopher Walken was in it, and Danny DeVito?
Also - No to Christian Bale, he's waaaay to pointy rat face.
Also -Anyone seen commercials for Catwoman? It looks kinda bad...the outfit is good, but an outfit can only take you so far...
Amber

[darklinensuit]

:nod: :nod: Agreed....ugh..Ahnold was awful...I only remember the "chill out" line....that pretty much made me want to vomit and leave the theater...an hour and a half of my life that I'll never get back....that's how I view that cinematic experience....and I'm not a big fan..or even a small fan..of Uma...so yeah..that movie was pretty much doomed for me from the beginning...but I just felt like I was watching Dr. Ross in a batman costume the whole time...as lovely as George Clooney may be that was not his best acting job...

I'm not an Uma fan either, though she was fine in Dangerous Liaisons. Sorry, I never got why people make such a huge deal about her looks. (Same for Minnie Driver.) She was in a drama years ago (two people's names in the title is all I remember) and has a fight with her boyfriend where she over-acts the line "I WANT you to SING my PRAISES!" My then girlfriend and I used to say that jokingly afterwards.

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

No to Christian Bale, he's waaaay to pointy rat face.

Blaspheme! The man is beautiful.

[darklinensuit]

:)
Adam West!!! Bring HIM back LOL. :thumbsup:

Ugh. I can't stand him. And when the Batman movies first came out he did interview after interview complaining that he wasn't cast in the lead. How old was he? :rolleyes: :lol:

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

At that time they were talking about doing a Superman movie, with a Batman cameo or something. Too bad that fell thru...!

Not really. Like I said, that was the Nick Cage thing. :rolleyes:

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Wait, wait...um, did you notice Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in the second one? Not to mention Christopher Walken was in it, and Danny DeVito?
Also - No to Christian Bale, he's waaaay to pointy rat face.
Also -Anyone seen commercials for Catwoman? It looks kinda bad...the outfit is good, but an outfit can only take you so far...
Amber


Michelle Pfeiffer was the only thing I liked about that movie, though I've never been a fan of her voice. She looked amazing.
Danny Devito was gross in the movie, which was the point of his character, but I still found it unpleasant to watch.
I know Christopher Walken has tons of fans, but I think he plays every villain pretty much the same. And he went to the Andrew McCarthy School Of Blinking Infrequently. :shocked:

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

I know Christopher Walken has tons of fans, but I think he plays every villain pretty much the same. And he went to the Andrew McCarthy School Of Blinking Infrequently. :shocked:

- Jake


:laugh: :laugh:

[amber]

Michelle Pfeiffer was the only thing I liked about that movie, though I've never been a fan of her voice. She looked amazing.
Danny Devito was gross in the movie, which was the point of his character, but I still found it unpleasant to watch.
I know Christopher Walken has tons of fans, but I think he plays every villain pretty much the same. And he went to the Andrew McCarthy School Of Blinking Infrequently. :shocked:

- Jake
Yeah, that's mostly what i liked too. I guess I liked it a lot, It's the only Batman i've seen multiple times. But though you're right about Chris Walken, I like to watch him do that, so it's ok. Yeah, Danny DeVito was gross.
Amber

[estranged4life]

I liked the first Batman movie with Keaton, If Adam West isnt behind the Batman cowl then I could really give a flyin' f**k :lol: :laugh: :lol:

[sparky]

I think the brooding quality fits Bruce Wayne well.
And I'm afraid to ask, but what kind of Kilmer stories? He seems like a nice guy when I see him interviewed.

- Jake

Let's just say that Mr. K had moments when he was extremely difficult to work with. I don't want to get too...um, specific. On the flip side, I worked with the guy recently and he was nice enough. Evidently, he has calmed down since the early part of his career.

[dissention]

Let's just say that Mr. K had moments when he was extremely difficult to work with. I don't want to get too...um, specific. On the flip side, I worked with the guy recently and he was nice enough. Evidently, he has calmed down since the early part of his career.

I take it this is your website, sparks:

http://www.geocities.com/mnussitch/gossip.html

:laugh:

Want to lend any credence to some of those things? I'll be your best friend.... :thumbsup:

[Patti]

Michelle Pfeiffer was the only thing I liked about that movie, though I've never been a fan of her voice. She looked amazing.
Danny Devito was gross in the movie, which was the point of his character, but I still found it unpleasant to watch.
I know Christopher Walken has tons of fans, but I think he plays every villain pretty much the same. And he went to the Andrew McCarthy School Of Blinking Infrequently. :shocked:

- Jake

I'm with ya there, Jake--I cannot STAND Christopher Walken. I truly believe when he plays all those villains, he's not acting, he's just being himself! He's a strange, strange man.

Patti

[amber]

Let's just say that Mr. K had moments when he was extremely difficult to work with. I don't want to get too...um, specific. On the flip side, I worked with the guy recently and he was nice enough. Evidently, he has calmed down since the early part of his career.
Are you sure you can't get specific? He's the cutest of my 3 favorite actors, I love him. C'mon!!! ;)
Amber

[sparky]

I take it this is your website, sparks:

http://www.geocities.com/mnussitch/gossip.html

:laugh:

Want to lend any credence to some of those things? I'll be your best friend.... :thumbsup:

:lol:

It isn't my website, but it is about the best trash site out there !
Actually, I have a friend who has not only told me many of those things on that list, but some things that haven't even made it on there yet.
Between me and a few pals, we could probably start our own.
As for lending credence to any of those things....it's a long list, D. Took me an hour to read it all the first time. In general, it's pretty accurate, though there is a little slant towards calling everyone bisexual - a few of those assertions are far fetched, but as you know, others are dead on.
Of course, the really great thing for celebrities is there are certain people (actually most) who would NEVER believe anything outlandish or negative about their beloved stars. Some little old blue hairs still think Liberace was straight ! There is something of a bulletproof quality to certain people's reputations. That is the power of image. You just kind of have to live here or NY and see a lot of this in the flesh to believe that people are capable of certain things.

[dissention]

:lol:

It isn't my website, but it is about the best trash site out there !
Actually, I have a friend who has not only told me many of those things on that list, but some things that haven't even made it on there yet.
Between me and a few pals, we could probably start our own.
As for lending credence to any of those things....it's a long list, D. Took me an hour to read it all the first time. In general, it's pretty accurate, though there is a little slant towards calling everyone bisexual - a few of those assertions are far fetched, but as you know, others are dead on.
Of course, the really great thing for celebrities is there are certain people (actually most) who would NEVER believe anything outlandish or negative about their beloved stars. Some little old blue hairs still think Liberace was straight ! There is something of a bulletproof quality to certain people's reputations. That is the power of image. You just kind of have to live here or NY and see a lot of this in the flesh to believe that people are capable of certain things.

:laugh: Those poor blue-haired creatures. :lol:

I just hope no one bursts my bubble and tells me Debbie Harry is a total bitch, she's the only one on that list without a negative attribute. :p

I already knew many of those things, but it's a great read. :nod: I love the FOD connotation, too.

[sparky]

:laugh: Those poor blue-haired creatures. :lol:

I just hope no one bursts my bubble and tells me Debbie Harry is a total bitch, she's the only one on that list without a negative attribute. :p

I already knew many of those things, but it's a great read. :nod: I love the FOD connotation, too.

Only good about Debbie. Great reputation.
Gossiplist is a pretty good one too - more chickenscratch notes than actual stories though. And you most know awfulplasticsurgery.com !

[ryan8472]

Nicks, Stevie. Egotist. Is to fashion what Mike Tyson is to civilised behaviour. Claims she hasn't had sex with a man since 1994. Bi______. Big cokehead, but is afraid that it will damage her vocal chords and so has her assistant blow it into her anally. (Isn't that grotesquely delicious gossip?) In re: that last item, during the 1970s she'd give herself coke/water enemas. Is apparently known for her oral skills. (Could any man be that desperate?)

:laugh: Yeah, most of it isn't true, but still a little funny.

[dissention]

OMG, Stevie's on there?!

That's awful. Simply awful. Classless and tasteless.

But I'm :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: anyways.

[estranged4life]

Claims she hasn't had sex with a man since 1994.
:laugh:

and I love William Shatner's acting ability, Listen to gangster rap & will vote for Shrub in Nov.2004.

:lol: :laugh: :lol:

[dissention]

Only good about Debbie. Great reputation.
Gossiplist is a pretty good one too - more chickenscratch notes than actual stories though. And you most know awfulplasticsurgery.com !

NO! I'm checking them out ASAP!

What's the url for Gossiplist? Gossiplist.com?

[sparky]

NO! I'm checking them out ASAP!

What's the url for Gossiplist? Gossiplist.com?

I believe so.

[amber]

Egotist.


(Could any man be that desperate?)


Egotist, of course! The other part, well, them's fighting words!!
Amber

[wondergirl9847]

Blaspheme! The man is beautiful.

He's GORGEOUS! :nod:

Michael Keaton...*shudder*...he is NOT an attractive man at all. :distress:

I am sooo going to see this Batman. I hope they don't screw it up. The last one I saw was with Kilmer and Chris Whathisface.....I forget his name...he played Robin.

[amber]

He's GORGEOUS! :nod:



So you think Lindsey's hot and Christian Bale :confused: Cognitive dissonance setting in...Christian so ratlike, Lindsey so hot.... :lol:

[wondergirl9847]

He doesn't look ratlike!

Lindsey is on a different plane than any other man in the universe.

That said...I adore Christian Bale.

Deanna...YAY, another Newsies fan!! "It's a high life, carrying the banner..." Hehe.

[ryan8472]

So you think Lindsey's hot and Christian Bale :confused: Cognitive dissonance setting in...Christian so ratlike, Lindsey so hot.... :lol:

He is ratlike....sorry Christy! :sorry:

[sparky]

He is ratlike....sorry Christy! :sorry:

Now that you mention it, I guess there is a slightly rodent-like quality to him. I don't like rats. But I think he is pretty hot.
Perhaps I have issues. :shocked:

[darklinensuit]

I just clicked on the link & that is NOT who I thought Christian Bale is. Forget everything I said about him.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Or this is when you know you're a guy. :)

And honest, I preferred Kilmer to Keaton, though his movie sucked.

- Jake


Yep. You've found me out. I'm a boy :rolleyes:


Val Kilmer can't act his way out of a paper bag.

[ryan8472]

You mean you didn't like him in Top Gun?! (sarcasm) :p

[Rob67]

So I see Christian Bale is the new Batman. I hope they aren't going to ruin the "new franchise" before it even gets off the ground. I still can't get over Michael Keaton being the best Batman there was. He was dark, and brooding, and he had the perfect voice! Sure he didn't really "look" the part of Bruce Wayne, but it didn't matter...he was believable. I think the first two Batman's were the best, and even though that had Tim Burton's stamp all over them, they still stand up as "definitive Batman."

I would die to see Keaton come back and re-do an aging Batman. They could adapt the script from Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" for all you graphic novel aficionados out there.


Keaton was the best...he is an awesome actor to begin with... Go see "Clean & Sober" if you haven't seen it!!! I am a little biased that he is from Pittsburgh and my parents are friends with his brother...

Rob :cool:

[diamondsnake]

This Halle Berry woman is extremely over rated, she is playing catwoman, right? I wish hollywood wasn't so obsessed with age- Michelle Pfeiffer should have just been catwoman again. Now that is a movie I would see! If you ask me she is much more beautiful then Halle even though she may be a few years older. And don't even get me started on Halle's acting- Michelle is soooo much better! (I guess my love for Michelle is a no brainer if you notice my buddy icon)

[darklinensuit]

This Halle Berry woman is extremely over rated, she is playing catwoman, right? I wish hollywood wasn't so obsessed with age- Michelle Pfeiffer should have just been catwoman again. Now that is a movie I would see! If you ask me she is much more beautiful then Halle even though she may be a few years older. And don't even get me started on Halle's acting- Michelle is soooo much better! (I guess my love for Michelle is a no brainer if you notice my buddy icon)

I saw the Catwoman preview and Halle looks pretty amazing.
But she sucked in X-Men. She is no Storm.

- Jake

[mylittledemon]

I remember back around 98 or 99 Keaton was being interviewed by Carson Daly on MTV. I believe they were discussing what was GOING to be a new Superman movie by Tim Burton. Daly asked Keaton "Is it true you're going to be playing Batman in the new Superman movie?" And Keaton replied, "Is it true I'm going to be playing Batman in the new Superman? Well...technically yes and no." From what I was reading at the time, "Bruce Wayne" was supposed to make a cameo, thus the reason for Michael Keaton being in the picture. I think that would've been great. Again...I can see a possibility of Keaton's triumphant return to the Batman role. They need to adapt Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns" that he wrote back in 1986. It is without a doubt, the best Batman story ever written. And not for the faint of heart...!

[DrummerDeanna]

He is ratlike....sorry Christy! :sorry:


That's right...Open the gates and seize the day, Christy! Don't be afraid and don't delay....hahaha...

I'm going to have Newsies songs in my head all day now :D

[darklinensuit]

I finally clicked on that link.
It says Stevie was with Jerry Brown. :shocked:

- Jake