Heart-New Album "Jupiter's Darling" [Archive]

cliffdweller

06-24-2004, 09:41 AM

you cannot just recommend an album without an apparent reason, details please.
is it Dreamboat-Annie-good or Brigade-"good"?

Uh....do you even have to ask? :laugh: It's more like Dreamboat Annie meets Bebe Le Strange meets Little Queen meets Dog and Butterfly. Let me put it this way, they've definitely gotten back to their 70's hard rock roots. There's also a bit of acoustic stuff thrown in, a ballad or two, and Nancy sings on a few songs--(she sounds great btw). I think there are 16 songs on the album, looks like they took the Fleetwood Mac approach in pushing it as far as it would go before becoming a double album. I am impressed with every song so far, I've only gotten a chance to hear about half of it, just got it last night. Ann's voice is AMAZING!!!! Absolutely sublime! She hasn't lost any of her powerhouse vocals. I just can't say enough wonderful things about this album!

amber

06-24-2004, 11:53 AM

I heard a couple songs last night on the radio from it, they were a little more acoustic, which I don't prefer, but they really sounded great and i liked them. I don't really buy hardly any CD's, but i'm gonna get this. The song i heard sounded very "new" if you know what i mean, but better because Anne's voice is, of course, the best ever.
Amber

Claudia

06-24-2004, 12:27 PM

I really need to get this cd! I heard/read such good things about it I can't wait to get it! :D

Nixxxed

06-24-2004, 12:51 PM

Hooray! :blob1: I'm leaving for the music store NOW!

BTW, does Heart have a new website? I had a link for an old one, and it's gone...

cliffdweller

06-24-2004, 01:00 PM

Hooray! :blob1: I'm leaving for the music store NOW!

BTW, does Heart have a new website? I had a link for an old one, and it's gone...

Yeah, it used to be www.annandnancy.com but it changed to something like, www.heart-music.com (not sure if that's exact or not).

Nixxxed

06-24-2004, 01:23 PM

it changed to something like, www.heart-music.com

Thanks, I found it. You had it right: http://www.heart-music.com

I'm glad they put up a new site, it's pretty slick! (A much better website than a certain OTHER band who shall remain nameless...). They have audio clips of the entire album, and some really cool photos and wallpapers of the band having fun with sparklers.

I'm glad they put up the audio clips - I checked my bank account before leaving after my last post, and guess what: empty! :laugh: But at least I got to hear snippets until I can get outta the poorhouse. The music sounds great -- can't wait for the tour! It'll be my first time seeing them live (after missing them the last 3 or 4 times they were in Houston). I'll most likely go to The Backyard show in Austin -- a beautiful, oak-tree lined outdoor venue that's really small and intimate -- which should be perfect for my first dose of ear/brain damage from Ann's voice. :nod:

cliffdweller

06-24-2004, 01:38 PM

I'll most likely go to The Backyard show in Austin -- a beautiful, oak-tree lined outdoor venue that's really small and intimate -- which should be perfect for my first dose of ear/brain damage from Ann's voice. :nod:

Yes! I will be there too. The Backyard is head and shoulders above the venue I saw them at last summer (Billy Bob's in Ft. Worth...blech!) during the Alive in Seattle Tour. I could barely see them, but they looked and sounded AMAZING!!! And those women can MOVE, I have never seen so much dancing, and jumping on stage in my life. They really get into their performance.

dissention

06-24-2004, 02:03 PM

I can't believe they're coming to my area to play at The Big E in September for only $5. I am so going and bringing my camcorder. :laugh:

darklinensuit

06-24-2004, 02:06 PM

I still haven't been to The Backyard. Maybe I'll check it out for this show.

- Jake

EveryHour

06-24-2004, 02:18 PM

I can't wait to get this today! I've been hearing the new songs live for over a year now (What can I say? When you live in Seattle, you see a lot of Heart shows!;)), and I love them all! At a show last month, I thought Ann said the album was going to be called Jupiter's Dawning, which made me want to puke, so I was glad to hear it was in fact "Darling":). Their setlist this year is awesome, although I prefer when they don't do the slow part in Crazy On You for whatever reason. Mostly the same as last year, but the running order is tons better, IMO. Even It Up and Wild Child were the show-stoppers for me. You also can't beat them rockin' the Zeppelin!

dissention

06-24-2004, 02:23 PM

I'd pay big money to see them perform Black On Black Part 2, lemme tell ya. That's always been a fave, no matter how cheesy. :nod:

EveryHour

06-24-2004, 02:41 PM

I'd pay big money to see them perform Black On Black Part 2, lemme tell ya. That's always been a fave, no matter how cheesy. :nod:

Yeah...they've completely neglected that album as of late.:shrug:

I'd love to hear Stranded, no matter how cheesy.;)

(Obviously they are capable of overcoming that factor since they do play Wild Child...)

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 03:13 PM

So far I've only heard snippets of the songs on the new album, but I love what I hear.
To me, the music sounds closest to the feel of 'Dog & Butterfly,' with a bit of 'Bebe le Strange' in there.

(Incidentally, expanded & remastered versions of 'Little Queen,' 'Dog & Butterfly' and 'Bebe le Strange' are being released next Tuesday.)

Oh, and I wish they would perform stuff from 'Desire Walks On,' too... it's my favorite Heart album. :D

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 03:16 PM

(Here's an article from Billboard about the expanded/remastered CDs... and, by the way, the European editions of 'Jupiter's Darling,' have two bonus tracks. So major Heart fans might want to seek that out, instead of the domestic version.)

Epic Expands Vintage Heart Albums

Epic/Legacy has set a June 29 release date for expanded editions of three vintage Heart albums: 1977's "Little Queen," 1978's "Dog & Butterfly" and 1980's "Bebe Le Strange." All three sets sport a handful of previously unreleased tracks from archives of the Ann and Nancy Wilson-led group.

"Little Queen" is best known for the hard-rocking single "Barracuda," which reached No. 11 on the Billboard Hot 100. The set has been expanded to include a cover of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" recorded in 1976 at an unknown club in Vancouver, plus a home demo of album track "Love Alive" titled "Too Long a Time."

"Dog & Butterfly" notched two singles within the top 40 of the Hot 100, the breezy title cut (No. 34) and the more rock-oriented "Straight On" (No. 15). The new edition sports a 1978 live recording of "Heartless," the previously unreleased "A Little Bit" and "Feels," which was later reworked for "Johnny Moon," from 1983's "Passionworks."

"Bebe Le Strange" achieved a then career-best No. 5 showing on The Billboard 200 upon its March 1980 release, thanks in part to the single "Even It Up," which reached No. 33 on the Hot 100. The previously unreleased tracks "Jackleg Man" and the live "Break" are included as bonus cuts.

As previously reported, Heart will on June 22 release its first new studio album in nearly 10 years, "Jupiter's Darling," via Sovereign Artists. The group begins a European tour June 3 in Dublin and will hit the U.S. beginning July 22 in Redmond, Wash.

-- Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

strandinthewind

06-24-2004, 03:21 PM

OMG - they would and will be KILLER on Stairway to Heaven!!!!!!!!!!

dissention

06-24-2004, 03:27 PM

Oh, and I wish they would perform stuff from 'Desire Walks On,' too... it's my favorite Heart album. :D

;) That album is perfection, I love it. I think I'll pop it in right now!

dissention

06-24-2004, 03:29 PM

OMG - they would and will be KILLER on Stairway to Heaven!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever seen Almost Famous? Nancy's husband directed it and on the "Bootleg Edition" DVD, there's a scene on it where they wanted to use Stairway To Heaven, but couldn't afford the rights (they wanted mucho cash). He should've used the version his wife's band did. :laugh:

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 03:32 PM

;) That album is perfection, I love it. I think I'll pop it in right now!

Their harmonies on "Will You Be There (In The Morning)" give me goosebumps every time.

"Black On Black II" is KILLER, and "In Walks The Night" is one of my all-time favorite songs... by anyone.

The only track I find myself skipping, is "Ring Them Bells."

Oh, and how about "Rage"? Wow, Ann tears that one up! :D

dissention

06-24-2004, 03:39 PM

Their harmonies on "Will You Be There (In The Morning)" give me goosebumps every time.

"Black On Black II" is KILLER, and "In Walks The Night" is one of my all-time favorite songs... by anyone.

The only track I find myself skipping, is "Ring Them Bells."

Oh, and how about "Rage"? Wow, Ann tears that one up! :D

I agree with everything you said. :eek: :thumbsup:

For some reason, though, every time I hear Black on Black II, I'm amazed. There's something about the way she sings it in that high voice with all that power!

strandinthewind

06-24-2004, 03:49 PM

Have you ever seen Almost Famous? Nancy's husband directed it and on the "Bootleg Edition" DVD, there's a scene on it where they wanted to use Stairway To Heaven, but couldn't afford the rights (they wanted mucho cash). He should've used the version his wife's band did. :laugh:

I LOVE that movie. It is so glam and then literal all at the same time - like when they have to pump her stomach at what appears to be The Plaza.

I, too, love Heart. I really could love them anymore than I do. I also Love City's Burning:

AHHHHHHHH - Young man is ANGRY, girl is afraid

She want to get high, He want to get paid
_______________________________________________

Although I LOVE Nancy on it, I always think how beautiful Stevie would have sounded with her early 80's voice doing "These Dreams" SHEEBUS

hayley

06-24-2004, 04:31 PM

Isn't anyone a fan of "The Road Home"? With the exception of Little Queen, I've always found the albums to be hit or miss... Heart's a band I've always loved more based on albums rather than songs... but The Road Home is one of my favorite records, ever.

I've always loved The Road Home & Nancy's Live from McCabe's more than the Heart albums... although I do recommend the reissues, they are pretty g-d nice. (and the Stairway to Heaven cover is something to hear!)

EveryHour

06-24-2004, 07:32 PM

(Incidentally, expanded & remastered versions of 'Little Queen,' 'Dog & Butterfly' and 'Bebe le Strange' are being released next Tuesday.)

Thanks, Johnny, I didn't know that! Cool!

:wavey:

jwd

06-24-2004, 08:38 PM

cliffdweller:

It's more like Dreamboat Annie meets Bebe Le Strange meets Little Queen meets Dog and Butterfly.

FOR REAL?! I'll definitely be picking this one up. Heart's been a favorite of mine since the 70's. Are any of the "original" members on the new cd with Ann and Nancy? Howard Leese stuck with them for a very long time, although he's been missing in action for awhile. "Mistral Wind" is my all-time favorite of theirs, where the dog and butterfly got crossed a little. :)

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 10:24 PM

Are any of the "original" members on the new cd with Ann and Nancy? Howard Leese stuck with them for a very long time, although he's been missing in action for awhile.

Hi Joe! :wavey:

It's basically an all-new Heart.
Ann & Nancy are joined by Darian Sahanaja on keyboards, Mike Inez on bass, Ben Smith on drums, and Craig Bartock on various instruments (guitars, organ, etc.).

I believe Howard is currently in Paul Rodgers' (from Bad Company) solo band.

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 10:28 PM

Isn't anyone a fan of "The Road Home"? With the exception of Little Queen, I've always found the albums to be hit or miss... Heart's a band I've always loved more based on albums rather than songs... but The Road Home is one of my favorite records, ever.

'The Road Home' is absolutely amazing.
I was kind of left cold by the reworkings of "Alone" and "All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You" though.
I realize they were trying to get away from their '80s sound, but I guess I just missed the bombastic edges of the original versions of those two tracks a little too much, to truly appreciate the acoustic versions.

But everything else is stellar, and it's a must-have CD for any rock fan. :)

estranged4life

06-24-2004, 10:33 PM

Hi Joe! :wavey:

It's basically an all-new Heart.
Ann & Nancy are joined by Darian Sahanaja on keyboards, Mike Inez on bass, Ben Smith on drums, and Craig Bartock on various instruments (guitars, organ, etc.).

I believe Howard is currently in Paul Rodgers' (from Bad Company) solo band.

I recognize from the backing band for the Wilson sisters is Mike Inez (Former Bassist for Alice In Chains/Ozzy Osbourne).

I also heard the sound clips and I thought they sounded alright for the type of music Heart is known for (I have respect for Heart, But I am not that much of a fan)

jwd

06-24-2004, 10:39 PM

Johnny Stew:

Hi Joe!

It's basically an all-new Heart.
Ann & Nancy are joined by Darian Sahanaja on keyboards, Mike Inez on bass, Ben Smith on drums, and Craig Bartock on various instruments (guitars, organ, etc.).

I believe Howard is currently in Paul Rodgers' (from Bad Company) solo band.

Hi Brian!

Thanks for the info. I was wondering what Howard was up to these days. It seemed like he and the girls had a good working relationship for so long and I was surprised to see him not playing in the band any longer. Apparently he's got good taste and makes excellent choices in band mates. Paul Rodgers, YEA BUDDY, he's a rockin' man. I love Bad Company too. Is Rodgers doing the Stevie thing, where he's juggling a solo career with a band one? I thought for sure he rejoined Bad Company not too long ago. Seems like the good rockers just keep on rockin'. :woohoo:

estranged4life

06-24-2004, 10:42 PM

is definitely in Bad Company (I'm guessing he is focusing more on BC than his solo career...But he will be touring solo this summer), Who have a live hits DVD out currently (The only other familiar name in the new version of BC is drummer Simon Kirke, I'm not familiar with the new bassist Jaz Lochrie or guitarist Dave Colwell).

Johnny Stew

06-24-2004, 10:48 PM

By the way, the entire 'Jupiter's Darling' album plus a cover of "Good Vibrations" is available to stream on Real Player.... here (http://click.real.com/?href=http%3A%2F%2Fmusic.guide.real.com%2FplaylistHurl%3FplaylistId%3D2689&pageid=music.Listening&pageregion=MiddleColumnPosition2). :)

tommer

06-25-2004, 09:44 AM

i'm listening to it for the 1st time after i downloaded it, yes, it IS surprisingly good, i really hope it'll do well (although i highly doubt it) i guess i'm gonna buy myself a decent copy when i come across one.

cliffdweller

06-25-2004, 10:06 AM

You also can't beat them rockin' the Zeppelin!

Speaking of their Zeppelin Covers:
Stairway to Heaven, Black Dog, and Rock and Roll all rock BUT.......

Their version of The Battle of Evermore (on the Alive in Seattle live c.d.) is the most AMAZING thing I've ever heard!!! Especially at the end when they yell the successions of "BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!" Goosebumps everytime I hear it.

cliffdweller

06-25-2004, 10:09 AM

"Mistral Wind" is my all-time favorite of theirs,

:nod: Again, check out the version on the Alive in Seattle live c.d. AWESOME!

cliffdweller

06-25-2004, 10:14 AM

I prefer when they don't do the slow part in Crazy On You for whatever reason.

I agree. Ann needs to drop the bluesy ending and go back to the original arrangement. It was cool that she adopted it on "The Road Home" for a change of pace, (I feel the same way about Stevie switching Rhiannon around for The Dance) but I'm ready to go back to the original.

WelshWitchPMD

06-26-2004, 03:25 PM

I just found out that they are coming to Providence. The pit tickets are all sold out however. :( If I knew when a certain band is going to reschedule Camden I would buy a ticket. $60.00 cheap.
They are also doing Foxwoods Casino, Fleet Pavilion Boston and The Big E. All of them in my area or not too far to travel to and on weekends! I really wish that a certain other band would do this. :(

My poor friend called me today from a CD store chain in New England. She was trying to listen to the CD before she bought it but the dummies had no clue and did not have the CD. :confused: She did not get there. Time to go to Best Buy.

jwd

06-27-2004, 10:55 AM

cliffdweller:

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Originally Posted by jwd
"Mistral Wind" is my all-time favorite of theirs,

Again, check out the version on the Alive in Seattle live c.d. AWESOME!

Yea, I have that. It's an excellent 2cd set. I actually try to get every possible version of this song because I love it so much. I know that "Mistral Wind" is not on The Road Home cd, but I believe there's a good version of the song on the video of one of the concerts the cd was made from. And the one on their greatest hits cd recorded in Phoenix in 1980 is 7:14 minutes of musical bliss.

Seems like there are a lot of Heart fans on the board! :thumbsup:

Gypsy3

06-27-2004, 06:01 PM

"Jupiter's Darling" is Heart's best in many many years. They released three songs from the album to radio. "Perfect Goodbye" was sent to adult rock stations. "Oldest Story In The World" was sent to rock stations. "Make Me" was sent to classic rock stations. I wasn't really crazy about "Perfect Goodbye". It's even weaker than 80's Heart in my opinion. It's not horrible though.... just not the Heart I love. The latter two though are fantastic. It's so good that Ann and Nancy came back to their roots.

EveryHour

06-28-2004, 04:28 AM

I agree. Ann needs to drop the bluesy ending and go back to the original arrangement. It was cool that she adopted it on "The Road Home" for a change of pace, (I feel the same way about Stevie switching Rhiannon around for The Dance) but I'm ready to go back to the original.

I agree back. :wavey: It fit on The Road Home, but it just gets on my nerves for some reason. Especially since they end with it instead of starting with it. It's so anti-climatic in such a kick ass song. They actually didn't do it last year...they rocked all the way through, but it's back this year. :shrug:

EveryHour

06-28-2004, 04:31 AM

Speaking of their Zeppelin Covers:
Stairway to Heaven, Black Dog, and Rock and Roll all rock BUT.......

Their version of The Battle of Evermore (on the Alive in Seattle live c.d.) is the most AMAZING thing I've ever heard!!! Especially at the end when they yell the successions of "BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IT, BRING IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!" Goosebumps everytime I hear it.

This year they're doing Black Dog and another one I don't think they've done before. Shoot! I can't remember the title. It's one of the one's you hear on the radio...a rocker..... :confused: No 'Battle' this time around, an it was awesome!

EveryHour

06-28-2004, 04:34 AM

estranged4life

07-02-2004, 11:56 AM

that CMT is showing an exclusive outtake video from the Heart/Wynonna Crossroad episode? The video is for the song "I Want To Know What Love Is" (The major hit by Foreigner).

I just caught the very end of the video and it didn't sound actually.

skcin

07-02-2004, 01:33 PM

skcin

07-02-2004, 01:34 PM

I'm not as blown away by the album as I thought I'd be, but I do like it very much. There are a couple of songs I can't stand, but they're not a band where I like every single song anyway. I'm not big on the Ann-sung ballads on this one, but I do like the Nancy-sung ones. 'Vainglorious' rules at the moment! (What a great song title in itself!)

I was about to post the same thing - except "Vainglorious" is the one I can't stand, lol! Loving Perfect Goodbye, No Other Love...crap, I can't think of the other titles right now.

Paula

cliffdweller

07-02-2004, 01:37 PM

Loving No Other Love...

Paula

:nod: I think that's my favorite so far. Ann's voice is just beautiful on that one.

skcin

07-02-2004, 02:30 PM

:nod: I think that's my favorite so far. Ann's voice is just beautiful on that one.

Yeah, it's a very simple song, but her vocal is tremendous.

Paula

The Tower

07-06-2004, 01:12 PM

This year they're doing Black Dog and another one I don't think they've done before. Shoot! I can't remember the title. It's one of the one's you hear on the radio...a rocker..... :confused: No 'Battle' this time around, an it was awesome!

The Led Zep cover in question that they are playing on this tour is "Misty Mountain Hop".

"Walking in the park just the other day, baby...
Whaddaya??? Whaddaya think I saw???"

I finally bought this album over the weekend. Alas, it's another disappointment from the Wilson sisters. I keep waiting and waiting for them to come back to the style of their first four albums. However, without Mike Flicker and Roger Fisher, I just don't see it ever happening again. I think they made a mistake having Nancy produce this one- they should have had an outside voice to mitigate all this... sludge.

The lyrics are especially bad. And I mean REALLY bad!!! YIKES!!!

I worship Ann and Nancy, but this is very much a disappointment.

Patti

07-06-2004, 01:38 PM

I got the album yesterday and have only given it one listen-through, so the jury is still out for me. Just on first glance, I really liked some of the songs and am anxious to give them a more thorough listen.

Patti

skcin

07-06-2004, 01:48 PM

Again, I hate a couple of tunes, I LOVE a couple of tunes. The rest are very good & extremely listenable IMO. BTW - I posted another thread, but in case you missed it, Heart's Crossroads w/ Wynonna premieres Fri 7/9 @ 10pm EST on CMT. They're definitely doing "Perfect Goodbye", I'm loving this tune! :nod:

Paula

sparky

07-06-2004, 10:00 PM

cliffdweller

07-07-2004, 11:05 AM

Well....I was really looking forward to this. I like the first five or six songs okay - but I need to listen to the others a few more times. Not blown outta the water by this one. And it took them a million years to make it. The "Good Vibrations" has made me break out in a nasty, itchy rash. Of that, I am quite sure.

I think it's a vast improvement from the Lovemongers stuff, but I wasn't too partial to that project anyway. Anyway, JD is head and shoulders above anything they've put out in the last ten years (barring Alive in Seattle of course).

Lee

07-09-2004, 08:59 PM

OMG! This CD is good! I got it in Virginia Beach while on vacation last week. I was going to get it anyway, but I saw this thread, & I just had to have it. It reminds me of the Heart from years ago. Right now I'm into Make Me, Move On, & I Give Up. I haven't heard any singles from it on the radio. I was wondering if anyone else has. I really like it. :]

Lee :)