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face of glass
06-10-2004, 08:53 AM
It's very likely that the following is nothing new for many and has been posted before but while searching for the information on the unreleased Dennis Wilson solo album Bamboo I found this lengthy biography that includes some Mac snippets. From http://www.mountvernonandfairway.de/dennis.htm:

After 1978, the only material that I'm aware Dennis worked on was his collaborations with Christine McVie in 1979 or 1980. Some tracks actually were cut in Hawaii at one point, but those tapes are not in the Beach Boys' tape vault, so the information on them is very sketchy.

I should clarify that when I referenced the Christine McVie sessions as "the only material ... Dennis worked on" after 1978, I was referring to material that would be considered "Dennis Wilson recordings" in some fashion. Obviously, as Lucas Cestari has pointed out, Dennis did produce several sessions for Brian circa 1980-81 and made at least a token appearance in the studio for the KEEPIN' THE SUMMER ALIVE album.
From 1979 through 1981, Dennis traveled sporadically with Fleetwood Macs enormous entourage. Though Christine would have liked her lover constantly by her side, Dennis didn´t enjoy tagging along - he did, however, occasionally surprise her by showing up unannounced. While he proposed to her in front of the entire band during a Hawaii stop, the two never wed. Their relationship endured for a rocky two years.

"Full Sail" must have been inspired by the days he'd spent aboard The Harmony with his brother. Another classic Carl Wilson composition, "Angel Come Home," served as a great vehicle for Dennis's unique voice. The song reflected the regret Carl felt over the failure of bis marriage.

"Love Surrounds Me" features Christine McVie´s voice at the fade out.

(NOTE: GOSSIP ALERT FOR THE FOLLOWING)
Unable to resist the obvious temptation, Dennis made love to Stevie Nicks just when he was supposed to be settling down with Christine. He also returned to Karen on a fairly regular basis - he just couldn't seern to give her up.

One night, while Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were working at Village Recorders, Dennis, Christine, and Ed Roach stopped by. "We all started talking about Brian," remembers Roach. "Stevie and Lindsay were saying what big Beach Boys fans they were when they were teenagers." Then, in a casual a cappella style, Buckingham and Nicks started singing Brian's old song "The Farmer's Daughter" from Surfin´ USA. Dennis teased Christine, saying, "See, I told you we were good." At that point, Dennis and Ed left the studio to paint the town. In the early morning hours, they returned, worn out, to pick up Christine. "We knocked on the studio door and Christine unlocked it to let us in," recalls Roach. "She had tears rurming down her face and said, 'My God I was hoping it was you guys!"' When Dennis asked, "What's the matter? Are we late?" Christine just led them quietly back into the studio. She wanted them to hear what had made her so emotional. Lindsay, Stevie, and Christine, all fighting tears, played back the arrangement of "The Farmer's Daughter" they had been working on all night. "Dennis freaked out when he heard it, and he started crying, too," says Roach. A short time later, their beautiful rendition of Brian's classic song would reach a whole new audience as a cut on a Fleetwood Mac live album.
The battered heart of Christine McVie could finally take no more. In 1981, Christine realized that she had no more forgiveness left to dish out. Christine's final gesture to Dennis was a lovely song titled "Only Over You." In it, she reflects on the difficulty of loving a man with a habit of being gone; she admits to being aware that others think she's "crazy" and a "silly girl" for putting up with it all. But Christine had longed for a future with Dennis, and "Only Over You" is one last declaration of love. Released in 1982, after the couple had parted, the record bears a simple message on its sleeve: Special thanks for inspiration to Dennis Wilson." Over the years that followed, Christine stayed away from Dennis, and she would never comment publicly at any length about their time together.
What interests me here especially are the recordings that Dennis and Chris supposedly made together; material that I presume only a few have the access to. I was wondering if anyone had any other info on this work? And since Chris appears on the Beach Boys L.A. (Light Album) could it be that Dennis appears on Tusk? Somewhere in that wall of sound, of course, homogenized into total anonymity. ;)

macfan 57
06-10-2004, 09:08 AM
What interests me here especially are the recordings that Dennis and Chris supposedly made together; material that I presume only a few have the access to. I was wondering if anyone had any other info on this work?

I've heard that Christine has these recordings herself & are locked away somewhere, I assume forever.

Thanks for all these juicy snippets. :) I hadn't heard about Dennis Wilson & Stevie. I had heard about Dennis & Lindsey's girlfriend though. I think her name was Carol Ann or something like that.

face of glass
06-10-2004, 09:17 AM
I think her name was Carol Ann or something like that.
Yeah, Carol Ann Harris. I wish Chris would one day let these recordings out into circulation anyway. Dennis and Chris were both on a creative high at the time; Dennis' Pacific Ocean Blue solo album is probably the best solo album ever made by a Beach Boy (only rivalled by Brian's solo debut). But maybe they're all too personal for her so she doesn't want to share them with anyone. :(

ThePenguin
06-10-2004, 10:30 AM
Sheesh, that Dennis, what a piece of work. Stevie, too.

I used to listen to Pacific Ocean Blue all the time, many years back...haven't heard that album in AGES but it was *really* good.

Would love to someday hear what Chris and Dennis had worked on together.

-Lis

strandinthewind
06-10-2004, 10:53 AM
How does this person know Dennis and Stevie shacked up? I went to the site, but did not see anything.

wondergirl9847
06-10-2004, 11:02 AM
How does this person know Dennis and Stevie shacked up?

Duh. Lindsey said it. "Packin' up, shackin' up's all you wanna do..."

:lol::lol:

chiliD
06-10-2004, 11:04 AM
Dennis' Pacific Ocean Blue solo album is probably the best solo album ever made by a Beach Boy (only rivalled by Brian's solo debut).

Carl Wilson's first solo effort also should be mentioned in the same breath as Dennis' POB, as well.

DeeGeMe
06-10-2004, 11:15 AM
I love Stevie but damn--the girl got around!

HomerMcvie
06-10-2004, 12:21 PM
Duh. Lindsey said it. "Packin' up, shackin' up's all you wanna do..."


Damn, she needed some SUPERGLUE between her knees!!
:p :p :p

strandinthewind
06-10-2004, 12:39 PM
Duh. Lindsey said it. "Packin' up, shackin' up's all you wanna do..."

:lol::lol:
LOL - you are so bad.

Interestingly, many think that line is not about Stevie sleeping around, many think it means, LB I do not want to marry you - I just want to live together, hence the term "shakin up" - but who knows.

Again, did this person watch Dennis and Stevie go at it :eek: I mean they assert this without saying how they know it. I hate it when people do that. I am too much of a skeptic I guess :laugh:

face of glass
06-10-2004, 02:55 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if he's got Stevie confused with Carol Ann Harris though? Both were Lindsey's girlfriend at one point. It would be easy to assume that Dennis sleeping with Lindsey's girl, meant Stevie.
Well there is a theory that all of Lindsey's girlfriends after Stevie have all resembled her in a way. ;)

ThePenguin
06-10-2004, 09:45 PM
OK, am I the only one who went and dug up Pacific Ocean Blue?

I went down in the basement and put it on the turntable, and within a few minutes i was weepy. Moonshine is SUCH a stunningly beautiful song, there aren't words. I played it like 4 times in a row. Marty actually dragged his @$$ away from the computer for a few minutes and came down and listened too. You just can't help but be moved by that song.

Dennis was a talented man. Living in his brother's shadow could not have been easy. Plus w/ the messed up childhood they had....sigh. I feel guilty for the bad thoughts I had about him today.....but i think I fixed my karma a bit by playing his music. :-)

Had he lived, maybe he would have benefited by some Paxil or Zoloft or something to mellow him out just a tad!

-Lis

gldstwmn
06-10-2004, 10:01 PM
I love Stevie but damn--the girl got around!

The mental image of Stevie and Dennis is well...ewww.

gldstwmn
06-10-2004, 10:03 PM
Dennis was a talented man. Living in his brother's shadow could not have been easy. Plus w/ the messed up childhood they had....sigh. I feel guilty for the bad thoughts I had about him today.....but i think I fixed my karma a bit by playing his music. :-)

Had he lived, maybe he would have benefited by some Paxil or Zoloft or something to mellow him out just a tad!

-Lis]

I think the alcoholism would have killed him. In a way it did. It really is unfortunate. He was the only actual surfer in the band.

littlelies7
06-11-2004, 12:01 AM
Oh and the packin' up, shackin' up line I definitely reckon is about Stevie not accepting Lindsey's marriage proposal. Didn't he allude to that fact in an interview once? I remember I totally took it that way.

Waaaaiiitttt... he proposed to her?!?!? :shocked:

face of glass
06-11-2004, 12:37 AM
OK, am I the only one who went and dug up Pacific Ocean Blue?
Didn't do that yet but I played tracks from Bamboo instead and it's almost as great. :)
Waaaaiiitttt... he proposed to her?!?!?
Yup, this book excerpt at BLA confirms it:
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=19&c=2

sodascouts
06-11-2004, 02:26 AM
Didn't do that yet but I played tracks from Bamboo instead and it's almost as great. :)

Yup, this book excerpt at BLA confirms it:
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=19&c=2

Wow, I read that article. Sounds like Dennis Wilson was a HUGE LOSER - Beach Boy or not! Surprising that Lindsey still wrote a moving song in his honor even after he banged Lindsey's girlfriend. But it seems everyone let Dennis get away with murder. :shrug:

HomerMcvie
06-11-2004, 03:31 AM
The mental image of Stevie and Dennis is well...ewww.
I always thought he was as ugly as they come! (never saw what Chris might've seen)... :shrug:

ThePenguin
06-11-2004, 06:53 AM
There were times when he looked mighty endearing, w/ that scruffiness to him.... There's a hot picture of him inside Pacific Ocean Blue that I should get Marty to help me post here. He's shirtless but wearing overalls, and has a really good body. Not that he was gorgeous, but I can see what Chris saw in him. Physically, at least!

-Lis

ThePenguin
06-11-2004, 08:13 AM
Yeah I was the one that transcribed that whole thing, yikes was that tedious! That 'cow' comment was pretty awful. I can't imagine that was the type of interaction they had when things were good for them though! I hope not anyway. That interview was done at a really weird time shortly after the splits, but I think it offers a good peek at how things had deteriorated. I think John's other comments about 'being living proof that there is life after death' and 'is there sex after death?' are pretty revealing of how he was hurting at the time.

--Lis

macfan 57
06-11-2004, 10:47 AM
I have that Laura Gross interview on CD. The "cow" comment really surprised me. John was obviously drunk. I don't think he ever would have said that to Chris if he were sober. Actually, John does have quite a bit to say in this interview. Now days, he hardly ever says a word.

xdreamsunwindx
06-11-2004, 10:56 AM
Wow, the "cow" comment is really low. That really took me by surprise. He had to be drunk in this interview... John seems too nice to say something like that while sober. Thank God he's all right now.

-Kate

David
06-11-2004, 11:05 AM
Wow, the "cow" comment is really low. That really took me by surprise. He had to be drunk in this interview... John seems too nice to say something like that while sober. Thank God he's all right now.
That was just staged. They were poking fun at the tabloid aspect of their reputation at that time, which was building in intensity. John & Christine took the ball & ran with it for a bit; they're both inclined to brittle, depreciating humor (we should spell it humour because it's so definably British). That was Laura's actual impression of it all.

ThePenguin
06-11-2004, 11:59 AM
>>>That was just staged. They were poking fun at the tabloid aspect of their reputation at that time, which was building in intensity. John & Christine took the ball & ran with it for a bit; they're both inclined to brittle, depreciating humor (we should spell it humour because it's so definably British). That was Laura's actual impression of it all.>>>

Yeah, I agree w/ everything above. Although you can certainly hear the hurt behind the humour IMO. I don't think John was drunk at all, actually, he was far too well spoken throughout the rest of the interview!

Years later in a 1987 joint interview w/ Stevie and John, Laura reminded them that she had done that interview back in 1976 right after all the splits, and John was so intrigued by that! He kept asking her, "How was it? Do you still have it? How was it?" I wonder if he ever heard it, it seemed like he really wanted a copy LOL.

He actually said something so similar in 1997 regarding the 'shut up' comment-- I think it was at the end of a VH1 Timeline special-- and the 5 of them were sitting there and Chris was saying how years ago 'there was animosity hanging around the two ex-couples' and John interjects in almost a whisper, "Oh, shut up, kid!" and she says, "YOU know what I mean!" while M, L and S all laugh. I think that's just the way John is, a bit rough around the edges sometimes but really a big softie.


-Lis

face of glass
06-11-2004, 04:40 PM
Wow, I read that article. Sounds like Dennis Wilson was a HUGE LOSER - Beach Boy or not! Surprising that Lindsey still wrote a moving song in his honor even after he banged Lindsey's girlfriend. But it seems everyone let Dennis get away with murder. :shrug:
I approve of very little that Dennis did in his private life but his music was very often tremendously beautiful, either in an uplifting way or in a depressing way. Just listen to the Beach Boys' "Forever" or Pacific Ocean Blue (long out of print, btw) and it's hard to believe a person like that did such music. But as one reviewer once said in his review of POB: "it's one thing to elevate yourself to the level of abstract beauty and Love, and another thing to practice the same on your everyday level. But you knew that, didn't you?". :)

ThePenguin
06-11-2004, 09:11 PM
OK, finally got Marty to do this for me, as I am an idiot w/ computers.

The first one I just thought was a hot picture of Dennis. He had a certain something about him. :-)

The other one-- isn't that a riot? Pretty scary in a way. There are certainly similarities betwen John and Dennis; they are literally dressed in the same clothes LOL. Dennis just forgot to put on his suspenders.

-Lis

songbird anne
06-12-2004, 07:29 AM
hi everyone who do you think is the best looking man christine has dated

all the best

ThePenguin
06-12-2004, 08:46 AM
I think John had the most attractive face. Very cool features... A little asymmetrical but still appealling. Even now, look at his face on Say You Will, so striking! Great cheekbones, I'm a sucker for cheekbones. And *such* a warm smile and eyes, his whole face softens when he smiles.

Curry....he was OK, but not all that IMO.

Dennis-- He was OK too. Some years he looked better than others. Also had a great smile.

Eddy-- The least attractive, IMO. Quite frankly, I could never see what she saw in him... he always looked sort of greasy and icky.

-Lis

songbird anne
06-13-2004, 04:00 AM
hi i must agree with you on eddy hes not good looking at all
also i think a q and a with george hawkins to be a good as hes last one gave a lot o info
by for now

Claudia
06-13-2004, 06:39 AM
Here is picture of Eddy with Christine:

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/songbird/chriseddy.jpg

macfan 57
06-13-2004, 10:33 AM
Claudia, that link to the picture of Eddy & Christine isn't showing up. :confused:

By the way, if you happen to have the Tango & BTM tourbooks, there are quite a few pictures of him in both of them. I don't have a scanner, so I can't post them here.

Claudia
06-13-2004, 11:34 AM
Oops, Just go to http://www.angelfire.com/mt/songbird/songphotos.html on the 1980s section, the first two pictures.

macfan 57
06-13-2004, 03:44 PM
I do have those tourbooks. Can you point me out to a particular picture?
thanks!

Claudia just posted 2 pictures from the BTM tourbook. There's an additional picture of just Eddy in the BTM tourbook. It's on the first page of 4 pages of pictures. It's just to the right of the very nice picture of John holding his baby daughter. Eddy is shown smoking a cigarette. There are 2 pictures of Eddy in the Tango tourbook. There is one on the first page of 4 pages of pictures. It's at the bottom just to the left of a picture of Chris & Mick's daughter. There is an additional picture of Chris & Eddy on page 2 of the pictures. They are shown holding their 3 dogs. Hope this helps. :)

ejb1969
07-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Resurrecting an old thread, but it seemed the best place to file these anecdotes...I think I would have beat the sh*t out of them, myself...

From: http://brianwilsonfans.com/a_dw.php


Almost as soon as the reception of Pacific Ocean Blue suggested that Dennis might have a meaningful life outside The Beach Boys, it all started to fall apart. In the carefree pre-Manson days, Denny and his pals Gregg Jakobson and Terry Melcher had a self-explantory boys club they called The Golden Penetrators, complete with gold-painted car parked on the Wilson property. And these were married men. Dennis was the cliched male who thought with his cock, and whatever advice it gave he accepted unquestioningly. But as ’60s consciousness exploration and freedom were corrupted by ’70s chemical abuse and indulgence, things took on an increasingly ugly edge. Ed Roach remembers coming to blows with Dennis at Christine McVie’s home when she and The Beach Boy were involved. “It was over a woman,” he admits somewhat sheepishly. “A ridiculous fight all over the house, while Fleetwood Mac were out on the road. Christine had bought an antique piano bench from Tallulah Bankhead, worth $10,000, and Dennis cracked it over my back. I jumped and grabbed the crystal chandelier to kick him like Errol Flynn and the whole thing came crashing down. It was crazy, and the excess fuel in our systems didn’t help.” And, it must be pointed out, the woman they were brawling over was neither Dennis’ girlfriend nor Ed’s domestic partner, but the wife of another Mac member. As the ’70s progressed, the penetrations were no longer so golden.

But the Dennis Wilson who burned Christine McVie’s pool house to the ground – prompting her pointedly dry remark to Gregg Jakobson, “A bit excessive, your friend Dennis, isn’t he?” – was also the same man-child who had a large heart composed of red and white flowers planted in McVie’s garden, where he serenaded her backed by a string quartet. (That Chris ultimately wound up with the bill in no way diminishes the gesture of a man who, when he had it, happily gave away everything he had.)
A decade earlier he had confided to a friend, “I could probably never be happier in my life, could never make things better than I have them right now, yet I know I’m gonna **** it up. It’s not that I think that, I know it. I have to **** it up. I don’t know why. It’s just too perfect, so I’ve gotta **** it up.”

Didn't do that yet but I played tracks from Bamboo instead and it's almost as great. :)

Yup, this book excerpt at BLA confirms it:
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php?page=index_v2&id=19&c=2

Jondalar
07-28-2013, 04:43 PM
How does this person know Dennis and Stevie shacked up? I went to the site, but did not see anything.

Duh, she shacked up with everyone. Doesn't take a scientist.

michelej1
07-28-2013, 04:59 PM
Resurrecting an old thread, but it seemed the best place to file these anecdotes...I think I would have beat the sh*t out of them, myself...



Oh my goodness. Dennis is long dead and there's no need for me to heap my scorn on him now, but shaking my fist over that broken piano bench.

Michele

michelej1
07-28-2013, 05:02 PM
Resurrecting an old thread, but it seemed the best place to file these anecdotes...I think I would have beat the sh*t out of them, myself...



Oh my goodness. Dennis is long dead and there's no need for me to heap my scorn on him now, but shaking my fist over that broken piano bench. Did Dennis even like Christine? Were there times when he supported her and cared about her feelings or showed her any respect? I know you think there must have been, but ...

Just did a search and read Bankhead's will. One bequest is: R. To JESSE W. LEVY, my Baldwin grand piano and bench.


Michele

becca
07-30-2013, 05:58 PM
Unable to resist the obvious temptation, Dennis made love to Stevie Nicks just when he was supposed to be settling down with Christine. He also returned to Karen on a fairly regular basis - he just couldn't seern to give her up.

A 'golden penetrator' meets the 'gold dust woman'? Well, how could anything else have happened... what eedjeets :(

That Chris ultimately wound up with the bill in no way diminishes the gesture of a man who, when he had it, happily gave away everything he had.


Hmmm, have to think in some ways that would diminish the gesture, but thinking isn't some folks' strong suit... like going diving while extremely intoxicated. Oops. :(

michelej1
07-30-2013, 07:31 PM
Hmmm, have to think in some ways that would diminish the gesture,

Ha. Oh good heavens, there is no end to what kind of thoughtful, unique and romantic gifts I could give, if I didn't have to pay for them.

Michele

drag00n
08-02-2013, 05:31 PM
I am looking for some help finding a very old made for TV movie... Possibly "80's era??
I cannot tell you the title or the actors... only that it dealt with Dennis Wilson and Chris McVie....

Though a Fleetwood Mac Fan.... I was not aware of the personal relationship so did NOT know it was about Chris...

It has to be out there somewhere.......and there has to be another old foggy that remembers it???

Thanks,
d

michelej1
12-31-2013, 12:22 PM
[Excerpt from Guardian article. Must Charles Manson and Christine be in the same sentence?]

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/dec/31/dennis-wilson-rocks-backpages

Wilson's Pacific Ocean Blue has come back to life 31 years later in glorious expanded form from Sony's Legacy Recordings. There's now a chance to hear how much more there was to the black sheep of the Wilson clan, the one who did everything from befriending Charles Manson to living with Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie.

chriskisn
01-01-2014, 08:25 PM
Must Charles Manson and Christine be in the same sentence?

Haven't you been following the discussion in The Early Years forum? If they aren't the same person they are twins separated at birth :laugh:

michelej1
01-01-2014, 10:36 PM
Haven't you been following the discussion in The Early Years forum? If they aren't the same person they are twins separated at birth :laugh:

Oh yes. It is comical.

Michele

lovethemac1
01-02-2014, 10:15 AM
Duh, she shacked up with everyone. Doesn't take a scientist.

I find it difficult to believe that Stevie would have slept with Christine's boyfriend. She loved Chris like a sister. Now Carol was also Lindsey's girlfriend so maybe they got that mixed up. Although Carol swears that she didn't sleep with him, Dennis said they did. Who knows there what happened. I just really find it hard to believe that Stevie did sleep with him. Imagine the tension in the band that would have caused if the only 2 members who really got along, had slept with the same person?

chiliD
01-02-2014, 07:17 PM
There was another "Carol" that Dennis married or lived with (and had children with) around that era. I think she was either the wife of, or ex-wife of, Robert Lamm of Chicago fame.

EDIT: Not "Carol", but Karen Lamm...ex-wife of Robert Lamm. Also, later died (2001).

bombaysaffires
01-02-2014, 08:54 PM
Resurrecting an old thread, but it seemed the best place to file these anecdotes...I think I would have beat the sh*t out of them, myself...

From: http://brianwilsonfans.com/a_dw.php


Almost as soon as the reception of Pacific Ocean Blue suggested that Dennis might have a meaningful life outside The Beach Boys, it all started to fall apart. In the carefree pre-Manson days, Denny and his pals Gregg Jakobson and Terry Melcher had a self-explantory boys club they called The Golden Penetrators, complete with gold-painted car parked on the Wilson property. And these were married men. Dennis was the cliched male who thought with his cock, and whatever advice it gave he accepted unquestioningly. But as ’60s consciousness exploration and freedom were corrupted by ’70s chemical abuse and indulgence, things took on an increasingly ugly edge. Ed Roach remembers coming to blows with Dennis at Christine McVie’s home when she and The Beach Boy were involved. “It was over a woman,” he admits somewhat sheepishly. “A ridiculous fight all over the house, while Fleetwood Mac were out on the road. Christine had bought an antique piano bench from Tallulah Bankhead, worth $10,000, and Dennis cracked it over my back. I jumped and grabbed the crystal chandelier to kick him like Errol Flynn and the whole thing came crashing down. It was crazy, and the excess fuel in our systems didn’t help.” And, it must be pointed out, the woman they were brawling over was neither Dennis’ girlfriend nor Ed’s domestic partner, but the wife of another Mac member. As the ’70s progressed, the penetrations were no longer so golden.

But the Dennis Wilson who burned Christine McVie’s pool house to the ground – prompting her pointedly dry remark to Gregg Jakobson, “A bit excessive, your friend Dennis, isn’t he?” – was also the same man-child who had a large heart composed of red and white flowers planted in McVie’s garden, where he serenaded her backed by a string quartet. (That Chris ultimately wound up with the bill in no way diminishes the gesture of a man who, when he had it, happily gave away everything he had.)
A decade earlier he had confided to a friend, “I could probably never be happier in my life, could never make things better than I have them right now, yet I know I’m gonna **** it up. It’s not that I think that, I know it. I have to **** it up. I don’t know why. It’s just too perfect, so I’ve gotta **** it up.”

Jenny? Or Julie?

fairydust75
01-02-2014, 09:33 PM
Jenny? Or Julie?
Maybe??????
Sara Fleetwood, although they probably were not married yet.
Didn't Carol Ann, Sara, and Dennis hang while The Mac were on the road. Didn't Lindsey say Dennis slept with his girlfriend. Maybe it was Carol Ann.

michelej1
01-02-2014, 09:52 PM
Jenny? Or Julie?

Interesting.

Michele

lovethemac1
01-22-2014, 04:17 PM
Maybe??????
Sara Fleetwood, although they probably were not married yet.
Didn't Carol Ann, Sara, and Dennis hang while The Mac were on the road. Didn't Lindsey say Dennis slept with his girlfriend. Maybe it was Carol Ann.

Yes, you are right. I thought it was referring to Carol Ann. Wasn't there something about Ed Roach in her book "Storms?" Let me ck on that.....................................yes, he is in there.

Page 217-217 "On some nights Dennis would bring Ed Roach along and the 4 of us would have a blast. Ed was one of Dennis's childhood friends. He was handsome, perenially tanned, and had the same cavalier, dashing presence as his buddy Dennis. Already a renowned photographer, he would become an L.A. club owner and entrepreneur in the years to come."

She also refers to him in the acknowledgments as letting her use his fabulous photos in the book. So they obviously knew each other.

michelej1
06-05-2014, 11:34 PM
From Mojo 2002

Ed Roach remembers coming to blows with Dennis at Christine McVie’s home when she and The Beach Boy were involved. “It was over a woman,” he admits somewhat sheepishly. “A ridiculous fight all over the house, while Fleetwood Mac were out on the road. Christine had bought an antique piano bench from Tallulah Bankhead, worth $10,000, and Dennis cracked it over my back. I jumped and grabbed the crystal chandelier to kick him like Errol Flynn and the whole thing came crashing down. It was crazy, and the excess fuel in our systems didn’t help.” And, it must be pointed out, the woman they were brawling over was neither Dennis’ girlfriend nor Ed’s domestic partner, but the wife of another Mac member. As the ’70s progressed, the penetrations were no longer so golden.

But the Dennis Wilson who burned Christine McVie’s pool house to the ground – prompting her pointedly dry remark to Gregg Jakobson, “A bit excessive, your friend Dennis, isn’t he?” – was also the same man-child who had a large heart composed of red and white flowers planted in McVie’s garden, where he serenaded her backed by a string quartet. (That Chris ultimately wound up with the bill in no way diminishes the gesture of a man who, when he had it, happily gave away everything he had.)

***

The last time I saw Dennis Wilson was in a Hollywood restaurant. He was with Christine McVie, whom I actually knew much better. She waved me over and asked if I’d met Dennis. When I reminded him of our previous encounters, he responded with such enthusiastic affirmation that it was obvious he didn’t really remember them at all. You didn’t feel inclined to take this personally, because Dennis was so fully in the moment, and (usually) so much fun to be around, that people simply treasured their time with him and forgot the rest. But was he really “in the moment”? For with all his manic embrace of experience, in every moment he inhabited he was already restlessly reaching for the next one. His inexhaustible reserves of energy would never allow him to alight in any one place for very long. And woe to those who tried to hang on; his personal highway was littered with the wrecks of five marriages and countless relationships. It was as if he thought that if he kept running as fast as he could he might somehow arrive at a place where he and the world would finally be in sync. He never did. No one could keep up. Beneath that tidal wave of charm, fellowship and good cheer, he just might have been one of the loneliest men alive.

Wdm6789
06-06-2014, 06:13 AM
Thank you bumping this thread, I will enjoy reading all the posts, I'm trying to find out more about Dennis and Christine.

louielouie2000
06-06-2014, 12:59 PM
Thank you bumping this thread, I will enjoy reading all the posts, I'm trying to find out more about Dennis and Christine.

+1. I think Christine's time with Dennis is far & away the most fascinating relationship in Mac history.

jbrownsjr
06-06-2014, 02:10 PM
+1. I think Christine's time with Dennis is far & away the most fascinating relationship in Mac history.

I tend to agree. It's unique that's for sure.

Danigirl
06-06-2014, 07:36 PM
From Mojo 2002

Ed Roach remembers coming to blows with Dennis at Christine McVie’s home when she and The Beach Boy were involved. “It was over a woman,” he admits somewhat sheepishly. “A ridiculous fight all over the house, while Fleetwood Mac were out on the road. Christine had bought an antique piano bench from Tallulah Bankhead, worth $10,000, and Dennis cracked it over my back.

Tallulah Bankhead... Both Chris and Stevie seem to have been very entranced with old hollywood actresses. Chris fascinates me, she seems like such a gentle soul. She withstood so much with Dennis, "Only Over You" now speaks to me so much more.

michelej1
11-20-2016, 07:39 PM
Broadway World

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwbooks/article/Scott-Wilson-Son-of-Beach-Boy-Dennis-Wilson-to-Host-Book-Signing-at-Promenade-Playhouse-20161116

Scott Wilson, Son of Beach Boy Dennis Wilson, to Host Book Signing at Promenade Playhouse November 16. 2016

Natalia Lazarus and The Promenade Playhouse are thrilled to announce, Scott Wilson (Son of Dennis Wilson), will be signingcopies of his new book, "Son Of A Beach Boy - My Dad, Dennis Wilson" - Scott will be present this weekend only at The Promenade Playhouse. Friday and Saturday only (Nov. 18th & 19th).

Stop in, catch the show "Dennis Wilson Forevermore: A Beach Boy's Fable" - Then meet Dennis Wilson's son, pick up a copy of his new book and have him sign it. The Promenade Playhouse, located at 1404 3rd Street Promenade, Santa Monica, CA. 90401. Tickets for the show are on sale at: www.promenadeplayhouse.com

MORE ABOUT THE BOOK

The true story of Scott Wilson's relationship with his father Dennis Wilson, the drummer of The Beach Boys told on a completely honest and personal level.

Scott is the eldest son of Dennis Wilson and Carole Wilson Bloom. This book spans Scott's entire life, from his early childhood going on tour with The Beach Boys to living with Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie, Dennis' girlfriend, in 1979. The story of a child and his rock n roll father; the good times, the fun times, the hard times when both father and son were addicted to drugs-helping them both cover up deep emotional scars. Scott's book, edited by Karen-Lesley Powell, is also available on Amazon Books at: https://www.amazon.com/Son-Beach-Boy-Dennis-Wilson/dp/1326734431

ABOUT THE SHOW

Dennis Wilson Forevermore: A Beach Boy's Fable, is a partially fictionalized behind the scenes drama. It's a rock and roll history lesson and look at how an abusive father ultimately and tragically shaped the lives of Dennis and Brian Wilson and 3 decades of music. Eric O'Meara's original stage play is an insider's view into the tumultuous life and times of Dennis Wilson, the flamboyant unsung drummer of the Beach Boys.

The show will be running through December 17th on Friday & Saturday @ 8:00PM. (Dark Thanksgiving weekend.) Promenade Playhouse is located at 1404 3rd Street Promenade, Santa Monica 90401 Phone (310)-656-8070. General admission is $27.00

Tickets and information are available at: www.promenadeplayhouse.com

FuzzyPlum
08-17-2017, 03:06 PM
‘…on the way to the green room, Bruce and I discussed how we’d spent the day surfing, and then I spotted my dad. He was stoked to see me and wanted to introduce me to his new girlfriend, Fleetwood Mac’s Christine McVie. She was lovely with a very well-spoken British accent. She invited me to stay at her house if I wanted to spend some quality time with my dad. She was very special to me; like a second mom and I still have sincere love and admiration for her, including many cherished memories. She adored my father and was so generous to me; she once gave me a credit card with no limit on it. We grew very close. As I have specified, she was just like a mother to me. I hope I do her justice in this book because she was fabulous, with a heart of pure gold’.

Scott Wilson

Macfan4life
08-20-2017, 06:47 PM
‘…on the way to the green room, Bruce and I discussed how we’d spent the day surfing, and then I spotted my dad. He was stoked to see me and wanted to introduce me to his new girlfriend, Fleetwood Mac’s Christine McVie. She was lovely with a very well-spoken British accent. She invited me to stay at her house if I wanted to spend some quality time with my dad. She was very special to me; like a second mom and I still have sincere love and admiration for her, including many cherished memories. She adored my father and was so generous to me; she once gave me a credit card with no limit on it. We grew very close. As I have specified, she was just like a mother to me. I hope I do her justice in this book because she was fabulous, with a heart of pure gold’.

Scott Wilson
So sweet.
Christine does have such a big and warm heart. In Mick's first book he wrote right before declaring bankruptcy his bills were about $50,000 per month. Christine gave him $50,000 to cover one month of bills. That was a lot of money in 1984.