The Nicksfiles (not your average Stevie site) - any good?

[face of glass]

(Edit: there is two threads for this because this Ledgie failed in creating a poll for the other.)

Just wanted to know what you all think of this site and its content:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/

And it's not for totally serious people anyway so... ;)

[Bella Figura]

I wouldn't recommend this site for the "airy fairy, faint of heart, I love Stevie as a goddess" crowd. And you do need a strong sense of humor and a little bit of sympathy as some of the articles can be quite rough on Stevie. but it's a great site with it's collection of unusual and humourous info about Stevie Nicks. whether fact or fiction, it's one of the few sites that does explore the rumours surrounding the Queen of Rock and Roll...

the site is a rare mixture of humor and pain...which kind of defines Stevie Nicks, the woman herself...

[xdreamsunwindx]

I love it. That site never fails to crack me up. Good job, I say :).

-Kate

[dissention]

You're probably going to start WW3 with this thread, but like I said in the poll thread you made, I LOVE THIS SITE!!!!!!!!

It's hysterical. It's not mean to be serious, it's just lighthearted fluff. And I love it.

[face of glass]

Yeah, ok, sorry. Screwed up. ;) Use whichever thread you want since I don't have the right to delete either.

[dissention]

Mari!

I take it you liked my "Queen of Velvet fountains and Fairy Farts" line, eh? Where's my royalty check?!?!?! :laugh: :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Well, to be honest, I never knew Mari cared so much about Stevie to make such a site. But, apparantly Mari does care about Stevie to go to all of this trouble.

As got the content, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Who am I to keep them down? If people take offense, they need to lighten up. Of course, that sword cuts both ways now doesn't it.

[CarneVaca]

Well, to be honest, I never knew Mari cared so much about Stevie to make such a site. But, apparantly Mari does care about Stevie to go to all of this trouble.

As got the content, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Who am I to keep them down? If people take offense, they need to lighten up. Of course, that sword cuts both ways now doesn't it.

So what the hell are you trying to say, Mr. I-Wanna-Have-It-Both-Ways? ;)

[dissention]

Well, to be honest, I never knew Mari cared so much about Stevie to make such a site. But, apparantly Mari does care about Stevie to go to all of this trouble.

As got the content, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Who am I to keep them down? If people take offense, they need to lighten up. Of course, that sword cuts both ways now doesn't it.

Don't you think this is funny:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/gallery/hairgallery.html

I just saw it for the first time today and I'm still convulsing. :laugh:

[dissention]

So what the hell are you trying to say, Mr. I-Wanna-Have-It-Both-Ways? ;)

Caren, you must download this from Mari's site:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/downloads/stevie_disneytheatre_1983.mp3

I'm dying over here.

[face of glass]

Well, to be honest, I never knew Mari cared so much about Stevie to make such a site. But, apparantly Mari does care about Stevie to go to all of this trouble.
Yeah, as they say over at BuckinghamNicks.net board, "hate is not the opposite of love, indifference is". So Mari is obviously a Stevie shipper at heart still. ;)

And anyone with the skill could pull together a site like this for almost any other FM member, although it wouldn't be as huge in size I guess.

And if we are to believe Mari (according to her FUQ, and since she was a member at the old Ledge already) people did take offense at the 1991 Vox magazine article. That's the stuff of the legends. :o

[strandinthewind]

Don't you think this is funny:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/gallery/hairgallery.html

I just saw it for the first time today and I'm still convulsing. :laugh:

The humor does not escape me :cool: :laugh:

[dissention]

The humor does not escape me :cool: :laugh:

You'd have to be inhuman. :laugh:

[Mari]

Mari!

I take it you liked my "Queen of Velvet fountains and Fairy Farts" line, eh? Where's my royalty check?!?!?! :laugh: :lol:

Check the mainpage again :p ;)

[face of glass]

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/gallery/hairgallery.html
That "Little Lies" cover is still a mystery. :lol:

And of course the shots 22-24, whoah. :shocked:

[Mari]

And anyone with the skill could pull together a site like this for almost any other FM member, although it wouldn't be as huge in size I guess.

I can't come up with enough stuff to do a similar page for Lindsey (as much as I'd love to do it! But Strandinthewind will probably never believe that :p ) but... what about Mick Fleetwood?

[dissention]

And if we are to believe Mari (according to her FUQ, and since she was a member at the old Ledge already) people did take offense at the 1991 Vox magazine article. That's the stuff of the legends. :o

I think it's quite a good article, one fo the better ones written about Stevie. of course, she was at a diffcult time in her life when she gave that interview and bless her heart for getting thoruhg all of that.

[face of glass]

I think it's quite a good article, one fo the better ones written about Stevie. of course, she was at a diffcult time in her life when she gave that interview and bless her heart for getting thoruhg all of that.
What? Not a whiff of sarcasm in that? :shocked:

(Yeah, it's honest alright, but is it TOO honest?)

[dissention]

Check the mainpage again :p ;)

:xoxo: Such a doll.

[dissention]

What? Not a whiff of sarcasm in that? :shocked:

(Yeah, it's honest alright, but is it TOO honest?)

Yeah, there's some sarcasm, but I think it paints a very vivid portrait of the stage she was at in her life. If anyhting, it's too brutally honest for its own good. I had no desire to know some of that stuff, but if she had no problme discussing it... Maybe it was healthy for her to talk about those things, who knows.

[strandinthewind]

I can't come up with enough stuff to do a similar page for Lindsey (as much as I'd love to do it! But Strandinthewind will probably never believe that :p ) but... what about Mick Fleetwood?


I was praising you - ya bonehead!!!! :laugh:

[CarneVaca]

Caren, you must download this from Mari's site:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/downloads/stevie_disneytheatre_1983.mp3

I'm dying over here.


That's hilarious. I gotta stop downloading this stuff at work. They already think I'm crazy and then I start cracking up at seemingly nothing.

[CarneVaca]

The most shocking picture of all to me is No. 15. Gives me shivers.

[dissention]

That's hilarious. I gotta stop downloading this stuff at work. They already think I'm crazy and then I start cracking up at seemingly nothing.

"Yes, all her classics are here. You'll get "Mmm," "Mmymm," and the incomperable "Blehhhmmmma."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Bella Figura]

just to lend some support and verification to Mari comments regarding the VOX article and the uproar on the Ledge...I was also a Ledgie back then albeit a lurker and it did get very crazy around here...passions were very high...

unfortunately, we've lost some great posters over the years due to that and other situations but that's how new messageboards were and are born...giving birth is painful

[Mari]

The thing that upset me the most about that period was a 'vote' on whether a group of ledgies could stay or not. All that starting out with just a discussion about this article.. crazy indeed.

[face of glass]

Oh my god! You're got a section on Arizona Ranger!
What a creepy wacko.
Wonder where he hangs out these days? He's been kicked off most Mac message boards.
Mari has this linked but "here it is, again":
http://desperado.scvnet.com/~philh/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

The legacy of Ginny Kamano lives on. :shrug:

[dissention]

Oh my god! You're got a section on Arizona Ranger!
What a creepy wacko.
Wonder where he hangs out these days? He's been kicked off most Mac message boards.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I still have some emails he sent me somewhere. :eek:

Scary, scary, scary stuff.

[Mari]

Oh my god! You're got a section on Arizona Ranger!
What a creepy wacko.
Wonder where he hangs out these days? He's been kicked off most Mac message boards.

.. and I'm proud of having contributed to that :cool:
I've no idea where he is now, I haven't seen him around for quite some time. (not on the FFA board either!) He must have changed his name & joined a witness protection programm or something, I would've known where he was...

Talking about Ginny, I'm collecting stuff about her too :D

[face of glass]

Come to think of it, someone should always save those trash'n'gossip magazines for posterity. They would be especially useful right now. Although there's stuff from the "real" magazines on Mari's site that come close to that. :o

[dissention]

.. and I'm proud of having contributed to that :cool:
I've no idea where he is now, I haven't seen him around for quite some time. (not on the FFA board either!) He must have changed his name & joined a witness protection programm or something, I would've known where he was...

Talking about Ginny, I'm collecting stuff about her too :D

He went off on me when I put a link in my sig to "Free Mumia," an organization that's trying to free a wrongly accused cop killer. I remember being very firghtened, he was obviously disturbed. And let's not forget his hate towards gay people. *shudder*

[dissention]

Dissention,
I shudder to think :eek:
The man had problems, and I'm sure I don't even know the half of it.

Well, he was fired from his job for harrassment, if I'm not mistaken. He threatened coworkers and his boss. :eek:

[face of glass]

I've no idea where he is now, I haven't seen him around for quite some time. (not on the FFA board either!)
So he didn't write all those fake posts on the board? Would have fitted the picture anyway.

[dissention]

So he didn't write all those fake posts on the board? Would have fitted the picture anyway.

Who knows, he's too busy crying wolf over child pornography.

[face of glass]

Who knows, he's too busy crying wolf over child pornography.
Did you intentionally want me to remember that TOSOTM song? ;)

[Mari]

So he didn't write all those fake posts on the board? Would have fitted the picture anyway.

Some of the posts are his, some aren't. That 'Dustin Dubree', posting on January 14, is him. It's one of the last posts on the board, not much activity after that any way. So it's been 5 months since we've heard from him.

[dissention]

I'm not surprised at all.
A very scary individual. He was terrorising Neil's board until Neil banned him, thank god.

hehe, he didn't like to hear the bad things about Stevie either. I'm sure he would have hated Mari's site!

There's a website out there somewhere that actually has letters from the hospital he worked at and the people he accused of being child pornographers. I don't know what the link is, but it's out there somewhere. Disgusting. He's a real menace. Let me see if I can find some of those old emails, Mari could archive them. :laugh:

[dissention]

Some of the posts are his, some aren't. That 'Dustin Dubree', posting on January 14, is him. It's one of the last posts on the board, not much activity after that any way. So it's been 5 months since we've heard from him.

He probably finally lost it and killed someone. I wouldn't be surprised.

[Mari]

I'm not surprised at all.
A very scary individual. He was terrorising Neil's board until Neil banned him, thank god.

hehe, he didn't like to hear the bad things about Stevie either. I'm sure he would have hated Mari's site!

Uh, wel,l he hates me already anyway!

[face of glass]

I'm sure he would have hated Mari's site!
Then why does the FFA board have a link to it at the top?
Yeah, and it seems like he had problems with Stevie being "a gay icon".

[face of glass]

Some of the posts are his, some aren't. That 'Dustin Dubree', posting on January 14, is him. It's one of the last posts on the board, not much activity after that any way. So it's been 5 months since we've heard from him.
Oh, ok. Clarifies things. It seems like he had some problems with you too. Isn't that PM on the "Portrait Of Hatred" page something that you received from him?

[Mari]

do you mean this page, Joe?

http://desperado.scvnet.com/~philh/arizona.html

Gaius: the FFA is not Air****'s board, it's a 'Blackledge' project :D

[dissention]

FFA board?

Free For All. :rolleyes: :lol:

[face of glass]

Gaius: the FFA is not Air****'s board, it's a 'Blackledge' project :D
And one weird mutant of a board it is. :)

[dissention]

do you mean this page, Joe?

http://desperado.scvnet.com/~philh/arizona.html

Gaius: the FFA is not Air****'s board, it's a 'Blackledge' project :D

THAT'S IT!!!!!

Ugh, I can't bring myself to look. Are the letters still there?

[Mari]

Oh, ok. Clarifies things. It seems like he had some problems with you too. Isn't that PM on the "Portrait Of Hatred" page something that you received from him?

Oh yes, he just loves me :laugh:

[Mari]

I might do that, Sharon, after all it's only fair to Stevie (and all the chiffonheads ;) ) that he gets a page of his own too! But it takes a lot of time. I had a lot of time the last couple of weeks because of unemployment, but tomorrow I'm starting my new job :woohoo:

[Johnny Stew]

Well, since the comment on the Rumours Forum about "some people" speaking in third person, was a thinly-veiled dig at my attempt at tactfulness, I'll go right ahead and say exactly what I think of The Nicks Files. How's that? :D

And, of course, I'll be accused of lacking a sense of humour... because, as always, if you don't find something mean-spirited to be funny, it could only be because you don't have a sense of humour.... or, God forbid, you "don't get the joke."
Which is why a question like this is flawed from the start... those who like the site will deride anyone who doesn't, for being too serious, or being a fluffy "Chiffonhead," or any number of other chastisements that are designed to demean and dismiss.

It's been a long while since I've visited Mari's site, but the various articles that were there, I've read countless times on any number of "serious" Stevie sites. They're all still available elsewhere for anyone who wishes to read them.
The "Disney Theatre" mp3 that a few people were talking about, is also something I've downloaded from other sites (I believe it's still available on Burnish.net), and.... *gasp*... I thought it was hilarious. Even shared it with several of my friends.
And of course the various photos of Stevie are also available elsewhere.
About the only thing that was unique to "your average Stevie Nicks site," was the inclusion of various unsubstantiated rumours... and some of those I had already read on other Nicks sites as well.

So it's not like I have a problem with the content, per se.

But... and since I'm not beating around the bush here... The Nicks Files reads like a Junior High "Slam" book (for those who don't know, a Slam book was something that kids passed around in school, where you'd write something mean and nasty about some classmate you disliked).

Maybe other people see some kind of value in a site that focuses only on the most negative and/or embarrassing aspects of someone's life, but I guess I just don't.

I don't think Stevie's a perfect person, or a "Goddess,"or that she should be treated as a saint, martyr, victim, or whatever... she's a human-being, and has her myriad faults. I also don't think that the Vox article, or others like it, should be swept under the carpet and ignored... but I do have trouble understanding the mindset of gleefully and unremorsefully broadcasting someone else's faults.

Anyone here have the chutzpah to take all of the worst things they've ever done, their biggest mistakes, all their most painful and embarrassing moments, and create a site about it for all the world to see?
Probably not.

Anyway, to me the whole thing reeks of "Schadenfreude."

So, that's what I think... my "honest, direct criticism," which Mari asked for. :)
Blast away.

[dissention]

We should check The Black Vault to see if he's still walking the streets or if he's been locked up.

I did find this, though:

http://www.bvalphaserver.com/modules.php?name=XForum&file=viewthread&fid=5&tid=17747&page=1

[Johnny Stew]

Before it gets out of hand, I want to remind people of a couple of the Ledge guidelines, on what's not acceptable....

* Contents of emails, posts from other message boards, newsgroups or mailing lists authored by anyone other than yourself. Personal feuds will not be tolerated.

* Any statement that defames, abuses or threatens others.

You don't have to pretend to like someone, but please keep those types of discussions from flowing over onto the public forums. :)

[dissention]

Can I just ask this: who created that page that details all of ARs exploits? They ahve my respect. Props.

[Mari]

Of course a lot of material on my page comes from other fanpages, I make no secret of it. All I did was sort of 'reorganize' the articles or photographs ;)
Yep, it's very puberescent, I also admit to that. That's my taste of humor D:
But it's goal is not simply to slam SN, it's rather a balance with The Average Stevie Site.

Well, I'll keep on not pretending to like Jimmy then... :rolleyes:

[Mari]

Can I just ask this: who created that page that details all of ARs exploits? They ahve my respect. Props.

I'll pass it on to Phil! (who you can find on the legacy forum posting as KTPhil) :)

[face of glass]

Blast away.
No blasting here. I personally love the site because I have a love/hate relationship with Stevie Nicks and I think her personality embodies some of the tackiest things not only of FM but of that era and I love reading a site that has most of it put together for the world to see. It's like the dark side of my fandom, the necessary kick in the butt that I need when I start to think of the band members too highly.

Your problem with the site then seems to be that it has collected a lot of the stuff that can be viewed as negative and that it hardly includes anything "positive" about Stevie. I understand that but personally I don't have a problem with it. It's material that anyone with hatred/a weird relationship towards Stevie could collect if she/he had the patience to do it. But I don't think that was Mari's intention. I think she wanted it to be a fun site and I think it succeeds in that. But I also think that creating similar ones for several FM members is an important project. The community needs things like these, IMO.

One tends to wonder would some of the things on the site come off less negative if Stevie wasn't so sincere and brutally honest. That 1991 Vox magazine article as an example again; while the writer probably attempted to create a negative impression of Stevie I still think she could have kept some of those things to herself. Reading it now; it seems like there's a person who isn't aware of the fine line between the private and the public. But I suppose most of that is attributable to that time period and the state of Stevie's personal life in those days.

In any case, while some of the things on the site disturb me, I still welcome it to flourish and ever expand.

[chiliD]

He probably finally lost it and killed someone.

Himself? :shrug:

Oh, darn...he's alive & well and badgering Bob Welch on Bob's message board. :(

[Mari]

"Life" is disturbing, and funny at the same time. (steps off soapbox)
Seriously, I don't like it when anything just slightly negative (I mean generally, not just Stevie-related) has to be hid, can not be talked about, out of fear for what? Better to make a joke about it than pretend it isn't there.

[Mari]

what am I talking about ?! I want a drink :woohoo:

[dissention]

Himself? :shrug:

LOL

From what I remember, you two didn't exactly like each other. :lol:

[dissention]

what am I talking about ?! I want a drink :woohoo:

You sound like you already had one. Or four. :eek:

[Bella Figura]

being a very devoted Stevie fan, there are things on that site that disturb me but I too have a dark sense of humor so I mostly "get it". I don't think Mari's site is malicious but as she freely admits it can be negative.

and yet both Mari and Johnny Stew have stepped up to the plate and shown that they are devoted fans to both Stevie and FM.

so when Mari says her site is out there to balance the fluff sites, one of which I freely admit is mine...I believe her

and what Johnny says about the fine line between humour and mean-spiritedness also strikes a chord with me as well....I do my share of twirling at many a FM/Stevie concert...and have had to endure my share of "we're now supporting Stevies twinkie habit" jokes from my hubby

and it does hurt me (yes, I am still immature) and it gets my defenses up when my favorite celebrity is slammed on this or any board especially when I don't really know anything about the poster. but I refrain from starting any feuds for that very same reason...

[Mari]

No, that's just the meds I'm taking :eek: :woohoo:

*$^# we can't delete posts anymore, can we?

[Mari]

I know the line is thin. I'm sometimes in doubt about some things on the page. But.. Oh I don't know. I guess I don't want to be the one to draw that line. I hate censorship, I think people just have to make up for themselves what they think about the content of some articles. They've a right to do that.

woohoo.. new subtitle: I walk a thin line!

[chiliD]

LOL

From what I remember, you two didn't exactly like each other. :lol:

Understatement of the millenium. :D

[chiliD]

I know the line is thin. I'm sometimes in doubt about some things on the page. But.. Oh I don't know. I guess I don't want to be the one to draw that line. I hate censorship, I think people just have to make up for themselves what they think about the content of some articles. They've a right to do that.

It's just like the radio or TV, if there's content you don't like or offends you, change the channel. Same with Mari's site...if it offends you, don't go back. Simple as that. Oh, wow, Howard Stern is starting to make sense.

[Mari]

Exactly!
btw, goodnight everyone

[wondergirl9847]

The witch page cracks my butt up!! :lol: I'd not seen a few of the photos on your site, Mari.

WE can make fun of our extended family members, but by crap, NOBODY else can!! :mad:

:laugh:

[estranged4life]

Great website Mari...Funny as hell to read some of the concerts reviews.

[golden braid]

I love the website too. It's very entertaining. :cool:

[cliffdweller]

Don't you think this is funny:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/gallery/hairgallery.html

I just saw it for the first time today and I'm still convulsing. :laugh:


You know you're a Stevie junkie when you find yourself liking some of those hairstyles!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[sodascouts]

I find much of the site depressing. Stevie had such hard times. I can laugh at the hairstyles as heartily as anyone else, and I readily admit Stevie can be hilariously ditzy. There are funny bits on there. But the "Stevie makes me want to" tag line for an article about a fan hanging himself outside a concert saddened me too much for me to endorse the site as the place to go for a fun hoot about Stevie. Guess I'm the exception, though.

[gldstwmn]

I find much of the site depressing. Stevie had such hard times. I can laugh at the hairstyles as heartily as anyone else, and I readily admit Stevie can be hilariously ditzy. There are funny bits on there. But the "Stevie makes me want to" tag line for an article about a fan hanging himself outside a concert saddened me too much for me to endorse the site as the place to go for a fun hoot about Stevie. Guess I'm the exception, though.

Guess what? You're not. No offense to Mari but frankly, some of it made me uncomfotable. :shrug: I don't want to know about the orgies, suicides or the abortions. It's none of my business. The hairstyles are a hoot. I certainly wouldn't dissuade anyone from going there. In a way, I guess I feel as though I would if someone put that out on the internet about my good friend or a family member- a little over protective. :)

[Mari]

I find much of the site depressing. Stevie had such hard times. I can laugh at the hairstyles as heartily as anyone else, and I readily admit Stevie can be hilariously ditzy. There are funny bits on there. But the "Stevie makes me want to" tag line for an article about a fan hanging himself outside a concert saddened me too much for me to endorse the site as the place to go for a fun hoot about Stevie. Guess I'm the exception, though.

You know what? I think you're right, I crossed the line of tact and good taste there. :o . Yeah, I'm ashamed, where were my brains when I posted those? I discussed it with a couple of people and decided I'm taking away the suicide-articles. When I put those on, I wasn't exactly thinking about the possible effect on family members, friends etc of this person or anyone who's committed suicide. Not tactful.

Wasn't exactly thinking anyone would take a look at my site anyway, actually!
That's the only thing I'm taking away from my site, though.
I certainly won't take away the orgy-articles :D

To all the ledgies giving their honest opinions in this thread: thank you I had no idea it was so appreciated :woohoo:

[Carolina Girl]

woohoo.. new subtitle: I walk a thin line!

There's a FM lyric for every occasion!

[sodascouts]

You know what? I think you're right, I crossed the line of tact and good taste there. :o . Yeah, I'm ashamed, where were my brains when I posted those? I discussed it with a couple of people and decided I'm taking away the suicide-articles. When I put those on, I wasn't exactly thinking about the possible effect on family members, friends etc of this person or anyone who's committed suicide. Not tactful.

Wasn't exactly thinking anyone would take a look at my site anyway, actually!
That's the only thing I'm taking away from my site, though.
I certainly won't take away the orgy-articles :D

To all the ledgies giving their honest opinions in this thread: thank you I had no idea it was so appreciated :woohoo:

Thank you for taking my complaint into consideration and responding to it. I am very glad you are the kind of person who is not afraid to admit when she's made a mistake. :)

[gldstwmn]

You know what? I think you're right, I crossed the line of tact and good taste there. :o . Yeah, I'm ashamed, where were my brains when I posted those? I discussed it with a couple of people and decided I'm taking away the suicide-articles. When I put those on, I wasn't exactly thinking about the possible effect on family members, friends etc of this person or anyone who's committed suicide. Not tactful.

Wasn't exactly thinking anyone would take a look at my site anyway, actually!
That's the only thing I'm taking away from my site, though.
I certainly won't take away the orgy-articles :D

To all the ledgies giving their honest opinions in this thread: thank you I had no idea it was so appreciated :woohoo:

If you like your site I don't think you should change it. I was just giving an opinion. You pay for it so hey, why not? Hope you didn't take any offense to my opinion. :)

[dissention]

If you like your site I don't think you should change it. I was just giving an opinion. You pay for it so hey, why not? Hope you didn't take any offense to my opinion. :)

Don't take offense to mine, Goldie, but I hate your sig. It desecrates the flag! :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Don't take offense to mine, Goldie, but I hate your sig. It desecrates the flag! :shrug:

I agree. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dissention]

I agree. :lol: :lol: :lol:

;)

Did you see the Babs Erotica picture I posted? That should have you :lol: for hours.

[Janis_no1]

(Edit: there is two threads for this because this Ledgie failed in creating a poll for the other.)

Just wanted to know what you all think of this site and its content:

http://home.tiscali.nl/thenicksfiles/

And it's not for totally serious people anyway so... ;)

ok i haven't read all the posts , just the first 2, but i shall say i love the site, its funny and takes a humouress approach to the lady, good on them, i enjoy it. Loosen up i say. :blob1:

[Nathan]

Too bad this site is not still around. If anyone has any archives form it, please post!