I wonder if the band visits fan dedicated sites [Archive]

tuigirl

05-30-2004, 12:42 AM

Well..if the band members themselves don't actually visit sites (like this one), then somebody else sure does :thumbsup:
Why? ...Don't you think, it's interesting, certain issues are now coming up, that have been disscussed here (and on other sites)and theyr'e being answered.eg...didn't we all go on ( well, some of us ladies did) about LB's sexy white shirt? Whats he wearing these days..haha..alot...Stevie and her lack of colour ( red shawl anyone?)...what about Geralds/Joes relentlous persuit of asking for "I know I'm not wrong"? Wha hey, they've got it..."Sara", "Beautiful child" "Red Rover"...yes folks, someone is listening and taking note and it's making alot of fans happy :xoxo: thanks to whoever is reading all our rants and thanks to FM for paying attention

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 12:45 AM

It's gotta be the record company or their management, because it can't be them, at least not Stevie because, she is like so old school, like my mom. :thumbsup:

tuigirl

05-30-2004, 12:56 AM

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 01:02 AM

That would be too cool, but if she isn't technology savy, that's okay too, just glad there are places like this to converse and share my enthusiam for her and FM! :xoxo:

ryan8472

05-30-2004, 06:29 AM

I do believe Mick once said that John was an internet junkie :nod: :laugh:

Mari

05-30-2004, 09:36 AM

well, if he's reading this: JOHN WE LOVE YOU!!!! :xoxo:

ShangriLaTroubl

05-30-2004, 11:03 AM

John Kinney of the Nicksfix told me that Stevie's assistant Karen visits them, and actually told Stevie about the Stevie-rooms section of the nicksfix, and showed the pics to her...

Chris

David

05-30-2004, 11:17 AM

It's gotta be the record company or their management, because it can't be them, at least not Stevie because, she is like so old school, like my mom. :thumbsup:At the moment, Stevie is attempting to clear her way through the confusing thicket of hi-tech known as digital cameras.

A few years ago, it was DVD players. Before that, it was VHS players & boom boxes.

I wonder how she did with turntables when Rumours came out.

David

05-30-2004, 11:19 AM

Yep, could be anyone...I'm sure there are assistants of, family members of, friends of...as for Stevie...you never know, she might be having PC lessons on her days off :D...along with digital camera ones
If they're anything like her piano lessons, we're in trouble.

I think the tour percussionist Taku hangs about, too, & occasionally even interacts.

HomerMcvie

05-30-2004, 12:05 PM

If they're anything like her piano lessons, we're in trouble.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Maybe they can make her a camera with ONE button.
BTW, you mean she actually TOOK piano lessons? :eek: Hope she got a refund!

GypsySorcerer

05-30-2004, 01:54 PM

If they're anything like her piano lessons, we're in trouble.

:lol: Ouch.

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 01:55 PM

Like this one, or do you think they are too old fashioned, or just impared to the technology that is the internet. I think it would be cool if they did!

It's my opinion that they have been lately. :) However, I have no confirmation of it.

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 01:59 PM

It's gotta be the record company or their management, because it can't be them, at least not Stevie because, she is like so old school, like my mom. :thumbsup:

Word is, she has a laptop now. :shrug: And a digital camera. :thumbsup:

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 02:03 PM

Thanks for all your responses! You guys rock! :thumbsup:

DeadliestPoison

05-30-2004, 02:06 PM

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 02:08 PM

You make perfect sense :)

David

05-30-2004, 02:51 PM

At the concert I went to (Indianapolis last year), it was Mick's birthday and people in the audience were shouting either 56 or 61 or something, regarding how old they thought he was. Lindsey said something along the lines of "I guess they believe the computers." Thusly, I think that if they don't visit fansites, that they at least know what's going on.
Their first exposure to the Internet was a profoundly negative one, thanks to that nutcase Ginny Kamano, who developed such a pathological hatred of the online fans that she used to troll Stevie's newsgroup under various pseudonyms, flaming & harassing others. Naturally, her (totally unfair & unfounded) impression of the fans who use the Net to communicate got back to Stevie's brother & friends, & from there it just spread to virtually everyone in the FM enclave. That's why it's great to see guys like Taku pop up, because he obviously is tuned in to Internet culture & understands it.

It's taken many years to begin to undo the damage Ginny created; unfortunately, we've got a Long Way To Go.

dissention

05-30-2004, 02:57 PM

Their first exposure to the Internet was a profoundly negative one, thanks to that nutcase Ginny Kamano, who developed such a pathological hatred of the online fans that she used to troll Stevie's newsgroup under various pseudonyms, flaming & harassing others. Naturally, her (totally unfair & unfounded) impression of the fans who use the Net to communicate got back to Stevie's brother & friends, & from there it just spread to virtually everyone in the FM enclave. That's why it's great to see guys like Taku pop up, because he obviously is tuned in to Internet culture & understands it.

It's taken many years to begin to undo the damage Ginny created; unfortunately, we've got a Long Way To Go.

Huh. And I thought I was the only one who thought Ginny was a nutcase. She truly is in a class all her own. Let Chris (gldstwmn) tell you about how she boasted to everyone about having a 30 minute version of Sara and various other lies. I wonder if she's still getting psychiatric treatment, she was for awhile. Oh well, Stevie never did surround herself with the brightest crayons in the Crayola box.

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 02:57 PM

yeah whatever happened to ginny kamano? i got like the worst email from her, the last i heard was she was in a bad car accident, man ginny was with stevie for a very long time!

dissention

05-30-2004, 02:59 PM

yeah whatever happened to ginny kamano? i got like the worst email from her, the last i heard was she was in a bad car accident, man ginny was with stevie for a very long time!

Like I said, the last I heard, she was being treated for her nutty, psychotic tendencies. I'm not suprised about that email, I got a nasty handwritten letter from the chick (she used to handle Stevie's fan mail). A total windbag she is.

Jessica

05-30-2004, 03:00 PM

What exactly was the deal with Ginny Kamano, anyway? I wasn't paying that much attention to FM right when it happened, though I do remember hearing just a bit about the situation. GK was the one who used to answer Stevie's fanmail way back when, right?

Jessica

Jessica

05-30-2004, 03:02 PM

I guess everyone was thinking alike at the same moment...

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 03:02 PM

sodascouts

05-30-2004, 03:22 PM

Stevie has a laptop? Yikes, I hope she doesn't surf the internet! She might get her feelings hurt. :(

As for Lindsey - did you see him slicing tape by hand on the DR doc? I bet he views the internet as my parents do - an inexplicable magical phenomenon that allows colorful pictures and words to appear when you hit those underlined words with the clicker-thingy.

John, the internet junkie. Wonder how much he tells his fellow bandmates? I'm thnking not much, lol.

Mick is involved with the internet it seems, so it's hard to say in his case. He seems to rely heavily on other people to filter it for him so I doubt he surfs it on his own.

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 03:29 PM

Huh. And I thought I was the only one who thought Ginny was a nutcase. She truly is in a class all her own. Let Chris (gldstwmn) tell you about how she boasted to everyone about having a 30 minute version of Sara and various other lies. I wonder if she's still getting psychiatric treatment, she was for awhile. Oh well, Stevie never did surround herself with the brightest crayons in the Crayola box.

We never figured out who that was but we suspected. :shrug: The person didn't seem like a fan and was especially nasty to anyone who talked about bootlegs.

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 03:32 PM

As for Lindsey - did you see him slicing tape by hand on the DR doc? I bet he views the internet as my parents do - an inexplicable magical phenomenon that allows colorful pictures and words to appear when you hit those underlined words with the clicker-thingy.

My thoughts exactly. :nod:

dissention

05-30-2004, 03:33 PM

Oh yeah, I made a joke about something, and somehow she got upset about it, and then went on to say, I am forwarding this to Chris, Stevie's brother. And I was joking about something, I forget what though.

He's a real mooch of a drunk if I've ever seen one. He's always fully cocked and stammering aorund the parking lot after a show, yelling and moaning about utter nonsense. And he's the one who f'ed up Stevie's fan club. She was insane enough to put him in charge of it and he stole a lot of the money and never sent the merch. Ask people who went to the club offices in NY, it was cleaned out and no one worked there. Plus, he seems to think that being Stevie's brother automatically makes him King Turd of the **** hill and he tried to pick up fans at the shows. More like a wet fart of a human turd if you ask me.

SaraRhiannon

05-30-2004, 03:34 PM

Did any of you visit the Stevie usenet group back in the day when Ginny was terrorizing everyone? FUN TIMES!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ginny+group:rec.music.artists.stevie-nicks&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=20010319203213.11326.00001674%40ng-de1.aol.com&rnum=1

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ginny+group:rec.music.artists.stevie-nicks&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=20000625060129.15976.00000246%40ng-fg1.aol.com&rnum=3

(DISCLAIMER: some of that stuff is, um... a tad disturbing. Read at your own risk!)

dissention

05-30-2004, 03:36 PM

We never figured out who that was but we suspected. :shrug: The person didn't seem like a fan and was especially nasty to anyone who talked about bootlegs.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

Even though we were VERY suspicious that it was Ms. Kamano. I'm still convinced it is. Has she posted lately over there? That place freaks me out, so I never go there. :laugh: I remember that she said we shouldn't have anything to do with bootlegs, and that she'd bring it to the attention of the record company. Then she bragged about having a 30 minute version of Sara (bless her, I'd be crazy too if I listened to Stevie pund on the piano for 30 minutes straight :lol: ).

dissention

05-30-2004, 03:38 PM

Did any of you visit the Stevie usenet group back in the day when Ginny was terrorizing everyone? FUN TIMES!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ginny+group:rec.music.artists.stevie-nicks&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=20010319203213.11326.00001674%40ng-de1.aol.com&rnum=1

:xoxo: Bless you, Sara. I used to visit that place (I never posted) and I thought her ramblings were forever lost. I wonder where her post is where she detailed how she wanted to please all the posters orally...

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. :laugh:

sodascouts

05-30-2004, 03:39 PM

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 03:44 PM

dissention

05-30-2004, 03:44 PM

She was insulting herself? !!!!!!

As as for the general tenor of her emails, all I can say is
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I know, I'll never listen to Lady From the Mountain the same way again. :laugh:

gldstwmn

05-30-2004, 04:04 PM

:nod: :nod: :nod:

Even though we were VERY suspicious that it was Ms. Kamano. I'm still convinced it is. Has she posted lately over there? That place freaks me out, so I never go there. :laugh:

I left because it was locking up my email. :shrug:

AliP

05-30-2004, 04:28 PM

Plus, he seems to think that being Stevie's brother automatically makes him King Turd of the **** hill and he tried to pick up fans at the shows. More like a wet fart of a human turd if you ask me.

Omy! LOL! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 04:46 PM

I didn't know any of this stuff about Ginny and Christopher until now :eek: I always thought Ginny was a little strange, but to hear all this stuff omg, wow! And Christopher? Isn't he married to Lori Perry. :eek:

wondergirl9847

05-30-2004, 05:19 PM

What a psycho. Thanks for making Stevie think all her fans are psycho, dip.

Hawkeye

05-30-2004, 05:24 PM

John Kinney of the Nicksfix told me that Stevie's assistant Karen visits them, and actually told Stevie about the Stevie-rooms section of the nicksfix, and showed the pics to her...

Chris

You mean Karen, The wicked Bitch of the West from Destiny Rules :laugh:

David

05-30-2004, 05:31 PM

What a psycho. Thanks for making Stevie think all her fans are psycho, dip. They all twist everything and yet the ones I have helped almost never step forward to say a word.... and that is fine. I have done many nice things for fans over the past 19 years and not wanted recognition or thanks...I am a nurse...we tend to be kindhearted...I played by the rules set down for me when I was hired and took crap for that, too. I didn't make excuses, I just did as I was told and that is why I am still good friends with my former boss today. I won't tell you what our motto about those people is. I can tell you she HATES the internet and will NOT own a computer or look at a message board.[GK e-mail sent in 2001; "those people" refers to the online fan community]

Hawkeye

05-30-2004, 05:32 PM

o the hell is this Ginny. I've never ever heard of her until today. She had some flat out DISGUSTING posts on that thing. Do someone here say that she was actually CLOSE to STEVIE.

SaraRhiannon

05-30-2004, 05:34 PM

I won't tell you what our motto about those people is.

Bloodsucking kindergartners?

dissention

05-30-2004, 05:35 PM

They all twist everything and yet the ones I have helped almost never step forward to say a word.... and that is fine. I have done many nice things for fans over the past 19 years and not wanted recognition or thanks...I am a nurse...we tend to be kindhearted...I played by the rules set down for me when I was hired and took crap for that, too. I didn't make excuses, I just did as I was told and that is why I am still good friends with my former boss today. I won't tell you what our motto about those people is. I can tell you she HATES the internet and will NOT own a computer or look at a message board.[GK e-mail sent in 2001; "those people" refers to the online fan community]

Wow. A whole message without a cunnilingus mention. Props.

Hawkeye

05-30-2004, 05:38 PM

And have some of you MET this psycho in PERSON. How close was Stevie to her.

David

05-30-2004, 05:39 PM

She was insulting herself? !!!!!!
You kiddin'?! That was one of her most blatant identification markers. For years.

Turning this thread into a CraaazyGinny review is certainly entertaining to many of us (including me), but I don't want the essential message to get lost in the fun -- namely, it's thanks to GK & a few others with her mindset that the members of Fleetwood Mac were so Internet-phobic for so long (& might still be, as far as I know). They truly believed that the online fans were a combination of dangerous & disturbed.

The supreme irony is that they didn't know those very qualities were in their employ!

dissention

05-30-2004, 05:39 PM

And have some of you MET this psycho in PERSON. How close was Stevie to her.

I've never met her, thank the heavens above. Lord only knows what kind of sexual deviance she has planned for the fans she actually meets.

She handled Stevie's fan mail, so she was very close to her.

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 07:51 PM

You know what, that is so true the very people that they surround themselves with are the very people who keep the secluded from the outside world. Very strange and sickening. :(

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 08:25 PM

I can't beleive she wrote those things, she seemed so square when we were emailing each other, weird stuff. How did she end up getting fired?

BigAl84

05-30-2004, 09:57 PM

didn't everything go down hill after her serious car pile-up in california?. I vividly remember things going fine untill she posted to the newsgroup she was banged up in a baaaaaaad car accident and then it all went to ****. Maybe i'm wrong, but thats how I remember it.

Last connection I remember of her and Stevie was when Ginny posted a review of the Sun Theatre show in CA and mentioned she met stevie backstage. . .etc. I would love to ask stevie herself what exactly happened between both of them.

earthdreamer

05-30-2004, 10:02 PM

I'd like to know too, because I thought Stevie would have the best set of people around her, since they were with her for so long, hard to beleive she'd have all these nutty people working for her. :confused:

HomerMcvie

05-31-2004, 01:37 AM

hard to beleive she'd have all these nutty people working for her.
Pot. Kettle. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Packing bags, and running for the non - chiffon hills!
Chill out, it was a joke... :]

tynan88

05-31-2004, 02:45 AM

Wow guys this is amazing, I've only been around for a month or two now and I have never heard of this stuff before, how long ago was all this happening, I feel kinda sorry for Ginny coz she seems to have some pretty serious problems, I hope Stevie manages to keep better company now though the last thing she needs is a group of people screwing up things behind her back.

Tynan

golddustwoman77

05-31-2004, 08:46 AM

well, if he's reading this: JOHN WE LOVE YOU!!!! :xoxo:

Ditto here! :xoxo: :wavey:

EveryHour

06-03-2004, 11:29 PM

...one of us here is not a band member?! I'd certainly get a kick out of it if I was in their position!!! C'mon...'fess up! Which of you is John? Mick?;)

earthdreamer

06-03-2004, 11:48 PM

John and Mick come here? :confused:

strandinthewind

06-04-2004, 06:06 AM

Sighs - if you were Stevie Nicks would you stay five seconds in a site where your brother, who she clearly loves, is routinely (right or wrong) called the worst names in the world :shrug:

Chris Nicks has a daughter who, if she is anything like any other kid her age, knows and uses the net. Is the need to bash him with such hateful lang. so great that it is worth the risk of the hurt that she would certainly feel if she read that. Whether the statements about Chris Nicks are true is not the issue and I make no comment on the veracity of them. The sole issue to me is does need to post in such hateful terms outweigh the potential hurt to her - a faultless little girl. I would be horrified if I read that about my dad. But, to each their own. I guess.

Note: I am not telling anyone not to post anything. I am just pointing out that IMO such lang. is not necessary to convey the point when the potential to hurt a child is there.

strandinthewind

06-04-2004, 10:02 AM

I'd feel strangely validated. But that's irrelevant, as is this ....
<img src=http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Lux_Adams/Avatar.gif>

I digress.

Idi Amin had children too. So how do you feel now? Mmm, just as I had predicted......listless. So does that mean we can't saying anything derogatory about anyone for the chance that their children might read it. Perhaps we should rule out political and social commentary in mass-communication. An over-reaction you say? You're talking to yourself again I note.

Did you just compare Chris Nicks to Idi Amin :laugh:

CarneVaca

06-04-2004, 10:17 AM

Pot. Kettle. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Packing bags, and running for the non - chiffon hills!
Chill out, it was a joke... :]

Ahh... but jokes... they are often based on true feeling, no? And dare I say you are quite right? ;)

CarneVaca

06-04-2004, 10:21 AM

Did you just compare Chris Nicks to Idi Amin :laugh:

Nice side-stepping, my friend. ;) But she raised a very valid point that you neglected to address.

I am waiting...

strandinthewind

06-04-2004, 10:27 AM

Nice side-stepping, my friend. ;) But she raised a very valid point that you neglected to address.

I am waiting...

My point was, if you had bothered to read my original post you knucklehead :cool: , was a child might be reading this. So, instead of calling CN a &)&*(^%^(*&%(&*%(% - I think the higher ground is to say whatever you have to say if less graphic lang. But, if people think using the most graphic lang. possible is necessary to convey the point and the hell with the possibility that a faultless child might be horrified, so be it. Once again, I specifically said I was not telling anyone not to say anything. I was just urging them when they chose their lang. to consider the fact that a faultless child might be reading.

Clearer now everyone :laugh: :wavey: :xoxo:

Mari

06-04-2004, 11:05 AM

I'd feel strangely validated. But that's irrelevant, as is this ....
<img src=http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Lux_Adams/Avatar.gif>

Ooooh.. yum!
and I just stopped reading :laugh:

EveryHour

06-04-2004, 12:42 PM

John and Mick come here? :confused:

Could you seriously not tell I was joking?

HomerMcvie

06-04-2004, 01:17 PM

Ahh... but jokes... they are often based on true feeling, no? And dare I say you are quite right?
Well, I learned a long time ago, be very careful about criticizing SN. Her fans are often rabid, and I don't have my steel underwear on! :laugh:

dissention

06-04-2004, 02:27 PM

Note: I am not telling anyone not to post anything. I am just pointing out that IMO such lang. is not necessary to convey the point when the potential to hurt a child is there.

Hey, you may be right, but I've met the guy a few times and never once left with what one could call a favorable impression. My language depicting him was a bit harsh and I readily admit it. However, I just wish that such a warning could be posted everytime someone decides to bash Lindsey's "desperate" and "scheming" wife. JMO. :)

And, this is just what I think, if Stevie doesn't want people talking badly about her brother, she shouldn't bring a person like that on every tour where he can interact with fans and rub them the wrong way.

dissention

06-04-2004, 02:29 PM

My point was, if you had bothered to read my original post you knucklehead :cool: , was a child might be reading this. So, instead of calling CN a &)&*(^%^(*&%(&*%(% - I think the higher ground is to say whatever you have to say if less graphic lang. But, if people think using the most graphic lang. possible is necessary to convey the point and the hell with the possibility that a faultless child might be horrified, so be it. Once again, I specifically said I was not telling anyone not to say anything. I was just urging them when they chose their lang. to consider the fact that a faultless child might be reading.

Clearer now everyone :laugh: :wavey: :xoxo:

Mehtinks that the parents of these children should behave properly, so as to avoid the risk of their child reading unflattering things about them. :xoxo:

gldstwmn

06-04-2004, 02:33 PM

Ooooh.. yum!
and I just stopped reading :laugh:

That photo is hot! :blob2:

gldstwmn

06-04-2004, 02:35 PM

Hey, you may be right, but I've met the guy a few times and never once left with what one could call a favorable impression. My language depicting him was a bit harsh and I readily admit it. However, I just wish that such a warning could be posted everytime someone decides to bash Lindsey's "desperate" and "scheming" wife. JMO. :)

And, this is just what I think, if Stevie doesn't want people talking badly about her brother, she shouldn't bring a person like that on every tour where he can interact with fans and rub them the wrong way.

Touche'. :wavey:

earthdreamer

06-04-2004, 02:41 PM

I don't know you well enough to know that you would be joking, I have only been here for a week or so. Cut me some slack, sheesh.

dissention

06-04-2004, 02:45 PM

Touche'. :wavey:

:wavey: I have to stop being the voice of reason 'round these here parts, huh? :xoxo:

gldstwmn

06-04-2004, 02:52 PM

:wavey: I have to stop being the voice of reason 'round these here parts, huh? :xoxo:

You can't! :xoxo:

dissention

06-04-2004, 02:56 PM

You can't! :xoxo:

:xoxo:

PS: Did you get the vid yet? I'm dying to hear what you think of it!

sodascouts

06-04-2004, 03:15 PM

I'd feel strangely validated. But that's irrelevant, as is this ....
<img src=http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Lux_Adams/Avatar.gif>

Great photo! I thank whoever the stalker was that got candid shots of Lindsey exiting his car, lol. He was looking very hot that day.

P.S. If anyone has a bigger verison of this hot photo or any from the series, I am eager to put it in my galleries. Send it along!

Johnny Stew

06-04-2004, 03:19 PM

Well, I learned a long time ago, be very careful about criticizing SN. Her fans are often rabid....

There's no denying that... but as I've often said, if one cares to take an honest look around, it's pretty clear that Stevie's fans aren't the only ones prone to rabidly defending their fave.

That's not a dig, it's just the truth. When you like someone, it's easy to defend and/or gloss over any "faults" they may have, and when you dislike someone, it's easy to ignore their good qualities and focus only on the negatives.

It's a crime we're all guilty of, to one degree or another. :)

gldstwmn

06-04-2004, 03:58 PM

:xoxo:

PS: Did you get the vid yet? I'm dying to hear what you think of it!

Just got it yesterday. I'll watch it over the weekend. :cool:

dissention

06-04-2004, 04:32 PM

Just got it yesterday. I'll watch it over the weekend. :cool:

:thumbsup: Enjoy it!

strandinthewind

06-04-2004, 05:49 PM

Mehtinks that the parents of these children should behave properly, so as to avoid the risk of their child reading unflattering things about them. :xoxo:

ITA - but as my mother and the Mother Superior at my Catholic grade school used to say "just because other people behave rudely does not give you an excuse to" :cool: That exact reasoning BTW is what I was referring to by "higher ground" :rolleyes: Like I said - bash away as hard as you want - if you think it is worth hurting some innocent little girls' feelings who am I to keep you down :cool: I was just pointing out that she may read this and if you are okay with that - so be it :D :xoxo: