Extending the Tour???

[golddustwoman77]

I was just wondering if anyone knew if there was talk of extending the tour this time around like they did on the last tour. :shrug: I really hope so!!!!!!!!! :blob2: :blob1: If they are, does anyone know where they might play? Thanks for any info you guys might have. :)

[77Rumours77]

yea I really hope so too, I really want them to comce to wichita!

[no_spoken_word]

Gosh I hope so! I'm still (selfishly) hoping for a return to Toronto (which they sold out in September) or Buffalo!

I read on this board that one of the crew members said during the Austrailian leg that this tour may extent until December or something, but that was a few months ago, and I guess a lot of that decision will be based on how well this leg is selling.

[mylittledemon]

My gut feeling is that they might possibly tour until the early fall. however, i don't see them touring again after that. it will be a miracle if they record another album and tour. I hope to see that by 2007.

[dissention]

I'll take any bets that say they'll continue after Iowa! The jig is up with the Iowa show, mark my words. And thank gawd, maybe we'll get some kind of new music. :D

[goldie]

I naturally want them to tour forever (and record new songs at the same time) ... j/k ...but they have been on the road for sooooo long now, they need a break to get some well deserved rest and come back at us with a kick a$$ album!!!!!!!

[hayley]

I'd heard from crew members and someone else with a good source that they are, as of this point, planning on hanging it up some time in August or September. They would've planned to go longer, but ticket sales are disappointing.

It'll be disappointing if they end the tour then, but I'll be thrilled if that means that they'll be going back in the studio that much sooner.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

I say get back in the studio!

Pip

[Mari]

.. or return to Europe!
the Paradiso... hint hint...

[CarneVaca]

If ticket sales are disappointing now, they really ought to reconsider their pricing, though I realize it is too late to do that now. I had a choice of $39.50, $85 and $135 tickets. With the fees, the top tickets end up costing about $150. That's just too much.

Aside from that, it occurs to me that if they are having trouble selling tickets now, they really ought to get realistic about their immediate prospects for new albums and future tours. Clearly the days of selling millions of albums are over. And if they tour again in, say, three or four years to promote an album, it is unlikely they will even sell as well as this time.

This current tour has simply been too long. Though I am glad I am getting a chance to see the band this year since last summer I wasn't able to fit any shows with my schedule, I think a shorter tour would have been better strategically. They should have wrapped up after Australia, taken a couple months off and gone back into the studio. Use some of those leftover tracks and record a few new ones, and next thing you know, they'd have enough material to release another album some time next year. Yeah, I know about Lindsey time and all, but it would have been possible.

Now we hear about a potential Lindsey solo album, which would thrill me no end, but what I suspect will happen is after the tour, Lindsey will lounge around with the family for a while, forget about the solo album, Stevie will do another solo record, and in two years they'll go back to the studio as Fleetwood Mac. By the time the record comes out, all the young fans they might have picked up in the SYW tour will have forgotten about them and moved on to the next Avril Spears.

[John Run]

Ticket Sales really are not all that bad. This leg was based on an avg attendance of 10,000. They got more than that in Madison and Champaign. Around 8,000 in the small market of Green Bay and sold out the very small (6,700) Atlanta show. If the band is grossing 700k per night they are meeting all the dollar commitments to all involved.

This tour was set up as one off in each market. They did not even allow time for extra dates in most cases.

As for continuing on, a few more shows are very, very possible, but the tour will be done by the end of the summer. It will be longest tour they have done.

[Merf]

As for continuing on, a few more shows are very, very possible, but the tour will be done by the end of the summer. It will be longest tour they have done.

I thought the Tusk tour was longer?

[David]

Now we hear about a potential Lindsey solo album, which would thrill me no end, but what I suspect will happen is after the tour, Lindsey will lounge around with the family for a while, forget about the solo album, Stevie will do another solo record, and in two years they'll go back to the studio as Fleetwood Mac.I think Stevie has saturated the market for both herself & Fleetwood Mac. She performs too much; she'd have more mystery & allure if she weren't out doing gigs every year. She never goes more than a year out of the public eye. We see her too frequently.

[David]

I thought the Tusk tour was longer?Somebody would have to count shows. The Tusk Tour was probably about 110 shows in about ten months. The Rumours Tour was about 100 shows in about ten months. Some people count the 1978 shows as part of the Rumours Tour, but there was a six-month hiatus between the two tours, so that to me is not really an extension of the original tour.

How many shows total will they have played for this whole Say You Will thing? I think it's their longest tour in terms of number of months on the road.

[John Run]

Tusk Tour was 111 dates from late october 1979 until Sept 1 1980.

The Say You Will Tour Started Early May 2003.

First US Leg was 70 dates.

EU Leg was 16 Dates

Aus Leg was 11 Dates

Second US Leg is Scheduled for 36 Dates

They have played 102 shows to date, with 133 through the end of the current posted schedule. The total number of shows could end up in 138-145 range.

[John Run]

Fleetwood Mac is a very attractive artist for venues to book. They are always going to draw a core crowd no matter how small the market of at least 8,000 people. More than enough to make it worthwhile for any venue. The issue is Fleetwood Mac themselves. The guarantees so high, the costs so expensive that the band is what needs the larger than average crowds. Fleetwood Mac could make a excellent living touring and they do, but the up front money, the plane, hotels, and such make it a very expensive show to put on. Plenty of people want to see Fleetwood Mac, it is just a question of how much is enough for the band?

[hayley]

Ticket Sales really are not all that bad. This leg was based on an avg attendance of 10,000. They got more than that in Madison and Champaign. Around 8,000 in the small market of Green Bay and sold out the very small (6,700) Atlanta show. If the band is grossing 700k per night they are meeting all the dollar commitments to all involved.


Have you seen the ticket counts for the Dallas, Denver, or Tinley Park (Chicago) shows? They're dreadful. Especially Dallas. Even Spokane isn't doing so hot- ticket count is at around 6,000 for a first time play in the market.

The only runaway success so far of this batch of dates is in Calgary, where it sold out in a week.

It's not terrible, but average ticket counts for this leg aren't what they'd hoped for.

[John Run]

Dallas is the only one that is truly horrendous and probably beyond hope. Chicago is not good, but may turn out okay. Spokane is a small market. Denver will end up being fine with good weather.

[Merf]

Hayley, is there any way you could find out what the ticket sales for Charlotte are right now? It's 3 days away from the show and my brother and I haven't gotten tickets yet because the good ones haven't been "rolled out" yet. Have they all really been sold? I'm confused. :shocked:

[hayley]

I don't have the ticket count (John might) but sales aren't great... they've only sold enough to fill about two thirds or three fifths of the seated sections.

I doubt they've all been sold, but it's a Clear Channel shed and a Clear Channel show, and their rollouts are not NEARLY as friendly to fans as Concerts West or House of Blues' have been.

I can't really tell you anything. It's the worst. I'm sure something better will come up, though.

[hayley]

Ticket Sales really are not all that bad. This leg was based on an avg attendance of 10,000. They got more than that in Madison and Champaign.

Box scores just came out- they got 6,200 for Champaign.

5/8/04

Fleetwood Mac
Kohl Center Arena
Madison,WI
Frank Productions 12,340
14,000
88%
45.00 - 115.00 1,099,650

5/9/04

Fleetwood Mac
Assembly Hall
Champaign,IL
Police Productions 6,247
7,500
83%
65.00 - 125.00 622,235

[77Rumours77]

Here are my thoughts on why the tickets are doing so poorly.
First off you are doing shed, I don't know about you but I like the indo venues better, most people do bacause it is air conditiond (most of the time ;) ) and no chance of rain or cancellation due to lightening. Another would be that sheds hold more people that the average indoor arena/colisuem. The average arena will seat about 10,000/15,000. A shed can go anywhere up to 12,000/21,000 lets look at this...
Dallas, TX 6/16/04
Smirnoff Music Centre seats 20,111
American Airlines Center seats 18,000
I would say that this concert will get about 12,000 people and It would look better to have 12,000 at an 18,000 arena than a 20,000 seat ampitheater.

Just my thoughts

[John Run]

They will not get 12,000 in Dallas. At least I should say I would be shocked.

It would look just as empty in an arena. Remember the sheds have lawns.

Intresting numbers from Champaign. I am going from memory here, what I thought was projected was about 80% of a 14,000 seat venue for that event. Maybe I was confusing it with Madison. Have to check when I go back to work. Ughhhh, I hate when I am wrong.....Of course not the first time.

[strandinthewind]

When they release the possible number of seats, is that the total number of seats in the arena? My point is if all seats in the arena are included that is sort of unfair as teh seats behind the stage cannot be sold and some other small number of seats in front of the stage are unsellable because the view is blocked, etc. Just curious and it really does not matter I guess for the sheds as they have no seats behind the stage.

[John Run]

The numbers should include only the numbers available for sale. There can be a number of variables, but that is how it supposed to be.

[hayley]

The numbers should include only the numbers available for sale. There can be a number of variables, but that is how it supposed to be.

Yep, that's how it's supposed to be, and promoters are generally able to manipulate their box scores and final tallys to make the show attendance look better, generally by changing "available" seating by claiming it was unavailable in that configuration, etc.

Box scores can be inaccurate often, in terms of the percentage sold, because of that manipulation.

[strandinthewind]

Thanks!!! I was just wondering.

[John Run]

Those were the variables I was referring to.....

[Janet]

I think we have been spoiled. Just the fact they are coming back is so great.

I think those numbers are better than I thought they would be! 80-90 percent is good.

I wonder how the east coast will do, I guess they usually do well there...

( btw, still ticketless)

[Merf]

Thanks Hayley!

For CLT, I ended up getting section 2 row H (a pair) through a broker two days ago. Not as close as I would like but hey, ya never know what I may find once we get to the venue. My brother may not want to drop the extra money for front row, but by God, I will! :lol:

I've been checking for "the rollouts" and they just never happened! Now I know why. That really blows :distress: