What's with the guitar violence?

[CarneVaca]

In some other threads, it was mentioned that Lindsey was mistreating his guitars on stage. In some cases he was handed guitars that were not tuned properly for the songs he was about to play. People have used terms like "broken" and "out of tune" but I suspect the guitars were in the wrong tunings. Maybe with the new setlist the guitar tech got confused about the sequence.

Be that as it may, what's with this beating up on guitars? It hurts me to read this. I am always taking extra care not to even pub nicks on my instruments, then I read this and I have to do this: :distress: :(

[strandinthewind]

In some other threads, it was mentioned that Lindsey was mistreating his guitars on stage. In some cases he was handed guitars that were not tuned properly for the songs he was about to play. People have used terms like "broken" and "out of tune" but I suspect the guitars were in the wrong tunings. Maybe with the new setlist the guitar tech got confused about the sequence.

Be that as it may, what's with this beating up on guitars? It hurts me to read this. I am always taking extra care not to even pub nicks on my instruments, then I read this and I have to do this: :distress: :(

I thought that as well. I have seen his racks of guitars and he has many of what looked like the same type. So, who knows. But he was pretty pissed after the SG thing when RR did not work. So who knows. I think it was one of those things that he had no control over and was just aggravating to him. It was not a hateful thing to see on stage, but it was a little odd :laugh:

[shackin'up]

Well, he wasn't very careful with his Turners in Europe. I was shocked, too, when I saw him THROW one over the stage in London, and that one broke. I think after that he only used his white strat during Tusk. He did not do that ( the bashing and using the white strat) in the States & Germany-shows I saw.

I hate when artists do that, but in Lindsey's case: It was some weird sort of relief for me to see such a controlfreak losing it for a splitsec. :laugh: :nod:

gerald

[chiliD]

Oh heck, I'd love to see him just DESTROY a Turner ala Pete Townshend...just once. Rick Turner might refuse to make him anymore if Lindsey did that. That would be hilarious.

[shackin'up]

Oh heck, I'd love to see him just DESTROY a Turner ala Pete Townshend...just once. Rick Turner might refuse to make him anymore if Lindsey did that. That would be hilarious.

It was not Townshend-like, but we share the exact same feeling. He really THREW his Turner over the stage. Actually, there was some control: He "bowled" it very hard. Pieces flew around. I got quite an adrenaline-kick out of it.

[stefan]

Yes, I think it's totally silly. I regard destroying things as absolutely senseless and concerning something like an instrument it's even worse.
In Oberhausen he did it with "control" which is double silly. Either I want to be Mr. Punk or Captain Destruction- then I throw it literally in pieces and to trash or I leave it (which I prefer as I mentioned) Guess it`s part of that whole show they put on the stage- the love and romantic crap as much as the rehearsed speeches, the hand on the heart after a solo and even this guitar behaviour.
On the other hand- if for every Turner he destroys we have to wait a month less for the next album- then I'm all for providing the man a bulldozer. :]

[Gazza]

He was very aggressive at Earls Court. He flung one of his guitars from one side of the stage to the other.

Personally, I'm loving watching it. Although obviously I'd rather him just give me the guitar rather than smash it up like that.

[CarneVaca]

What guitar does he use for Red Rover? Is it one of the Turner Renaissance models or the Model 1?

Chili, I don't think Rick would refuse to build Lindsey any more guitars. After all, Rick was kind of laughing about it when Lindsey tore a hole in the Renaissance model that he used in the infamous New Year's performance. :lol:

[chiliD]

Yeah, I guess so. And, if some schmuck can get his hands on one of the damaged ones and sell it for $17,000, who cares, right? :shrug:

[strandinthewind]

Yeah, I guess so. And, if some schmuck can get his hands on one of the damaged ones and sell it for $17,000, who cares, right? :shrug:


Why can't I be that schmuck :laugh:

[larg]

I'm hoping that at my next show, Lindsey will throw the Turner directly into the audience... at me!! :laugh: I'd catch it, but I dunno if I'd give it back...!

Adam R.

[stefan]

Guitar violence is rock and roll.


It`s its caricature nowadays

[CarneVaca]

As B.B. King said, I've never understood why guitarists like to smash their instruments. This is their tool to create their art. If a pilot crashed his aircraft intentionally or a painter smashed her easel constantly, that would be perceived as counterproductive. At least.

Smashing a guitar!? Lame. There are better ways to express rebellion.

[shackin'up]

There are better ways to express rebellion.

True.

And I don't think Lindsey doesn't do it to express rebellion.
But why does it happen? There must be a reason. Isn't it a state of mind you reach after abusing your strings musically? Looks like Lindsey reaches that state. He doesn't reach that point after Big love or World Turning.

[CarneVaca]

True.

And I don't think Lindsey doesn't do it to express rebellion.
But why does it happen? There must be a reason. Isn't it a state of mind you reach after abusing your strings musically? Looks like Lindsey reaches that state. He doesn't reach that point after Big love or World Turning.

In Lindsey's case I agree it's not rebellion. From what I've read here, apparently he starts abusing the guitars when he's frustrated. Being such a perfectionist, when he is handed an out-of-tune instrument, or one that is in the wrong tuning, it must make him nuts.

[stefan]

In Lindsey's case I agree it's not rebellion. From what I've read here, apparently he starts abusing the guitars when he's frustrated. Being such a perfectionist, when he is handed an out-of-tune instrument, or one that is in the wrong tuning, it must make him nuts.

So on every show he is handed an out-of-tune guitar? No no, of course not. It`s part of the rehearsed show, believe me.

[CarneVaca]

So on every show he is handed an out-of-tune guitar? No no, of course not. It`s part of the rehearsed show, believe me.

Stefan, I'm not referring to his beating up on the neck of the guitar during the solos. I was talking about he instances in which it was reported he flung the guitar across the stage.

Or does he do that every time?

[stefan]

Stefan, I'm not referring to his beating up on the neck of the guitar during the solos. I was talking about he instances in which it was reported he flung the guitar across the stage.

Or does he do that every time?
At Oberhausen he used it like athlets do when they practice hammer-throwing (sorry I don't know the exact english term for it)
He just did it half assed in order to not crash it completely which made it even more silly. (crush it or leave it) I read about it from the UK shows too, there he seems to have damaged one. But yes it seems to be constantly there.

[stefan]

Maybe it's a release of energy. Although I really have no opinion on the matter, I am reminded of a recent gig where my friend decided he was going to dive into the drum kit Cobain style, just to see what would happen. Of course he injured himself and it turned out to be rather impractical. My guess is that it's either a release of energy or it's a subject of very little consequence and is therefore making me question the energy placed in typing a post. And so I shall conclude with a full stop.

Btw Lux from what film is that car scene underneath your posts? It reminds me of the "Big Lebowski" scene but of course it`s not.

[CarneVaca]

My guess is that it's either a release of energy or it's a subject of very little consequence and is therefore making me question the energy placed in typing a post. And so I shall conclude with a full stop.

Damn, you've already wasted a lot of energy on at least two posts on this. You really need to be more discriminating. Save that energy for little snide remarks on more worthy topics!

[stefan]

It's actually from Fawlty Towers. The 'Gourmet Night' episode. Did Fawlty Towers get a German release? I'm guessing that if it did, it was without 'The Germans' episode.

About ten years or so there was the first release of the episodes in German, before they had been with subtitles or whatever and have not be shown for years. I made a videocopy of that- but I believe it were only a few shows-maybe 8 or so?
Yes the Germans episode is there too but it`s a long time since I saw the tape. It`s a great occasion to dig it out again and have some fun.
Que? :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

A bit OT, I loved FT and I also LOVED "The Young Ones," a BBC (I think) sitcom about stoners which aired in the late 80's.

As for LB, I say beat the hell out it, I could care a less :laugh:

[CarneVaca]

This precious energy of mine being so liberally distributed throughout the board! You're right, however, I feel I'm not being patronising to my usual standard and must make all additions necessary to piss others off. I should in future cease to prevent my actual personality creeping through, as I think I'm generally too well liked at present and must reverse the situation immediately.

You ought not weigh down your posts with so much metaphysics.

Just be. If you're cool, they'll know it. If you're a wiseass, they can figure it out.;)

[face of glass]

For me the whole guitar bashing isn't anything but his own way to attempt to get the same kind of response that Stevie does and he still fails. He doesn't have the same charisma, he never looked that natural on stage and he's lost a lot of the old fascinating spastic movements. For a novice concert goer what he does now might be great anyway.

Ah well, they've had a staged act of sorts for nearly every tour.

[stefan]

For me the whole guitar bashing isn't anything but his own way to attempt to get the same kind of response that Stevie does and he still fails. He doesn't have the same charisma,

Well I doubt that very much. In fact I think the opposite is true. He may leave people cold as a studio musician and artist. People who don't like his quirky production or songwriting or whatever. But his stage presence his amazing and I guess even the Stevie fans responded that way.

[stefan]

he never looked that natural on stage and he's lost a lot of the old fascinating spastic movements.

For me spastic movements are not appealing or very special and adorable. They are just there, it's part of his medical history. And if these movements are less nowadays (I did not care enough to tell) then it doesn`t lessen his stage presence for me one bit. Nor did their presence the opposite.

[CarneVaca]

I was hoping that the virtual people wouldn't despise me too. I appear to have lost one friend today, leaving a total of 3 friends and the odd occasional friend. Lets see how many more I can lose.

Not me, dude. I'm just trying to point out that your frequent self-analysis in your posts is a little distracting. Just be. Say what you want. Let the chips fall. It comes across as if you're constantly doing a back-door apology for being you.

I've made friends and I've lost friends here. I've made friends, lost them and regained them. Might lose them again. Whatever. People either accept you or they don't. Don't apologize for it. I'm telling you the same I would a friend who might be sitting across from me right now.

Here's a song by the Kinks:

I don't take clothes that are hand-me-downs
I don't smile 'cause I wear a frown
Once I get started you can't hold me down
Once I get going then I go to town, 'cos

CHORUS 1:
I'm not like everybody else
I'm not like everybody else
I'm not like everybody else
I'm not like everybody else

CHORUS 2:
I don't want to walk around like everybody else
I don't want to live my life like everybody else
I don't want to sit and cry like everybody else
'Cause I'm not like everybody else
I'm not like everybody else

Darling, you know that I love you true
Confess all my sins if you want me to
But there's just one thing I wanna say to you
If you' gonna love me my whole life through
And that's

Chorus

There's a nifty version of this song by Camper Van Beethoven at iTunes.

[shackin'up]

I almost HEAR Lindsey sing this.

great song.

[CarneVaca]

I almost HEAR Lindsey sing this.

great song.

Yeah, that would be awesome. Have you heard the Camper Van version? It's decent, though purists will like the original better.

[CarneVaca]

Wow, I must say I'm surprised. I've obviously left a memorable impression, although I'm afraid I shan't be able to return the compliment. My most insincere apologies.

:laugh: :laugh: :lol:

I should have pulled a Rumsfeld and blacked out that line. But the secret is out. I shall go sulk over this unrequited love. Please don't let me near a ledge, for I walk a thin line today.

[CarneVaca]

Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion on guitar violence...

[strandinthewind]

Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion on guitar violence...
I think Stevie should apply some stars and moons on his guitar thus binding it with a peace spell and - therefore - prohibiting any more violence! :shrug:

It has been a LONG day already :blob1: :blob2: :] :woohoo:

[face of glass]

Well I doubt that very much. In fact I think the opposite is true. He may leave people cold as a studio musician and artist. People who don't like his quirky production or songwriting or whatever. But his stage presence his amazing and I guess even the Stevie fans responded that way.
But when you read reports of some Stevie fans calling out for her name even during "Big Love" you tend to doubt that.
I think he is somewhat awkward on stage but that's mostly when he isn't playing. That why he seems to feel the necessity for the rehearsed speeches. Stevie is far more natural in everything she does even though she's actually trying far less than Lindsey on this tour.
For me spastic movements are not appealing or very special and adorable. They are just there, it's part of his medical history. And if these movements are less nowadays (I did not care enough to tell) then it doesn`t lessen his stage presence for me one bit. Nor did their presence the opposite.
I personally loved them. They were almost anti-rock in essence, a defiant stance against the typical stage posturing that so many guitarists had (and even LB himself sometimes) at the time. Sure, it didn't look natural but for me it's far more compelling viewing than the current rock God acts. Lindsey steals the whole show in the Mirage tour video but then again that show wasn't particularly good for Stevie as a whole.
I can understand how some dislike the movements and prefer the "Lindsey is hot!" vibe of now. I don't go for that so much. Don't underline your sexuality so much Lindsey, give it to us as explorations of your psyche (as in "Not That Funny").

[face of glass]

More random lyrics posting/Kinks references:
Life stinks, I'm seeing pink, I can't wink, I can't blink, I like the Kinks, I need a drink, I can't think, I like the Kinks, life stinks
Pere Ubu: "Life Stinks". There's times when that's the best lyric ever.

[shackin'up]

I personally loved them. They were almost anti-rock in essence, a defiant stance against the typical stage posturing that so many guitarists had (and even LB himself sometimes) at the time. Sure, it didn't look natural but for me it's far more compelling viewing than the current rock God acts. Lindsey steals the whole show in the Mirage tour video but then again that show wasn't particularly good for Stevie as a whole.
I can understand how some dislike the movements and prefer the "Lindsey is hot!" vibe of now. I don't go for that so much. Don't underline your sexuality so much Lindsey, give it to us as explorations of your psyche (as in "Not That Funny").

What have you been eatin' Gaius? I agree on every single syllable of this quote!

[stefan]

But when you read reports of some Stevie fans calling out for her name even during "Big Love" you tend to doubt that.


Well what does that prove? A lot of people can`t connect with Lindsey. And some seem to have trouble to behave (regarding the yelling). Honestly it's no wonder that people who adore the kind of things Stevie did don't call the Dennis Wilson suite their favourite song. So they go to the concert to see her. He has a complete different style of music so they may regard that as interference of a Stevie Nicks concert. Guitar solos often is not what they want, in fact I bet they often even do not know his songs. That has nothing to do with his stage charisma. If you are longing for a steak and you get a piece of chocolate you won't be happy. Lindsey always put on great live shows, played the guitar like a maniac, he looked good, still does for his age- I honestly don`t see how he has no stage charisma.

Stevie grabbed the attention from the beginning because of her beauty that fascinated a lot of people (as it always does) her unique voice and her songs that were more appealing to the crowd than Lindseys. To me that is O.K. but it proves nothing in terms of quality. (Otherwise Spitney was the greatest artist ever.) I bet thousands of people bought the FM and solo albums just to have the covers. So then it doesn't matter if some guy plays on the concerts too, if you are there to see that beautiful girl you are fascinated of.

[strandinthewind]

Personally, I like it when the two interact like they did during the last guitar part of the Madison "Sara." Stevie just played her air guitar and got real close to him (about a foot from his face) and sang the lyrics of the song only to him (away from the mic.) while he played. He smiled and clearly loved it. That kind of electrical interaction is just great IMO and mostly exceeds the solo stuff. To me and although I like each, it is just more entertaining than watching Stevie twirl or LB throw a guitar across the stage :cool:

[CarneVaca]

A lot of people can`t connect with Lindsey.

True, only the most sophisticated among us do. :D

[wondergirl9847]

Carne! :lol:

There's something for every fan at these concerts really. There are Rumours songs for "those" (LOL) fans, rarities for us die hards, romantic stuff for the BN peeps, you get guitar violence for people like Sharon and I (hee!!) and Stevie doin' her thang. :)

[GypsySorcerer]

I'll probably get slammed for saying this, but I will anyway. :lol:

Lindsey wants to play the rock god and the guitar violence is a part of that. "Fleetwood Mac" is a dirty word to a lot of people and I think it bugs the hell out of him. Because of FM's soft rock/AC reputation, Lindsey will never be seen in the same category as Page, Hendrix, or even Clapton by the masses. And it's been his mission since say one to prove the masses wrong.

And make no mistake, I love Linsdey too. It's just that most people don't outside of our little world. It's those people he wants to reach especially.

[shackin'up]

Lux in this world (there I go talking in 3rd person again) to spread the message of Lindsey to those who aren't yet exposed. I'm currently compiling a cd of Lindsey's music for my friend who said that FM played 'boring pop'.

This is what I am doing since 1978. Fighting windmills: I love it.

Keep up the Good Work, Sistah!

[Mari]

True, only the most sophisticated among us do. :D

Oh, I'm in the right crowd :laugh: :laugh: :lol: :lol:

[CarneVaca]

And it's been his mission since say one to prove the masses wrong.

Bull****. When has he ever indicated he wants to be another Clapton or Hendrix? I bet he cringes at Clapton and Page, no offense to their fans. And I'm sure he respects Hendrix but doesn't want to emulate him in any way, except for perhaps the rawness and passion of the performances.

I just have seen no indication ever that Lindsey cares that much about those guys. He talks about Elvis' guitarist, for crying out loud, when asked about his guitar-slinging influences.

[GypsySorcerer]

I didn't say he wanted to BE Clapton or Hendrix. I said it bugs him that he's not considered (by most) to be in that category. I stand by what I said. I think FM's "poppy" reputation drives him mad.

And Lux, I do agree that when non-believers hear Lindsey they will come around. But there is that bias already there.

[shackin'up]

I think FM's "poppy" reputation drives him mad.


No it drives ME mad. Not their popsongs, but thair reputation.
And if it drove HIM mad, why would he write WTWCT, Miranda, SYHA, BleedTLH, Twist of Fate, Peacekeeper, etc etc etc etc.? He's just right that he gives something extra on a live performance. He's plays a lot of pop-rocksongs in the mactradition this tour. He's always done that. What are we talking about? He plays a five minute solo during Come and a 6 minute solo on ISA. The rest is just pointy guitarwork in the ghost of the songs. 11 munites on a 140 minute show. Any show-off guitarist would quit immediately.

[shackin'up]

Oh, I'm in the right crowd :laugh: :laugh: :lol: :lol:

In the right crowd on the wrong side.

Isn't that a beautiful image for building a song on?

[Mari]

Yes! Like a painting on canvas! Or, a movie, maybe? :lol:

[CarneVaca]

In the right crowd on the wrong side.

Isn't that a beautiful image for building a song on?

Hmmm..... Gerald, that's not a bad idea at all. I guess I'll have to give you co-writing credit. Unlike Stevie Nicks, I acknowledge everyone's contributions to my songs. ;)

[wondergirl9847]

I think that Lindsey just wants to be recognized for what he IS, not what people THINK he's trying to BE. His influences are all over the map, we have the Kingston Trio, Elvis' guitarists, Django Reinhardt, David Gilmour, Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, Beatles, Everly Brothers, Chet Atkins, Earl Scruggs, and here are some quotes:

I used to love Led Zeppelin, but I never sat around trying to learn Jimmy Page licks. In terms of developing a sense of melody, I was helped along by Dave Mason's Alone Together - a wonderful album with a very pretty kind of lead-guitar style. But I never thought of myself as someone who was going to go out there and burn it up. In fact, the lead stuff came very late for me.
Guitar Player, April 2003

If you look at Eric Clapton’s playing, he tends to stick to a correct blues style. I was more interested in guitarists like Peter Green and David Gilmour, who took traditional blues and made it more ethereal or darker.
Guitar World, September 1992

Plus, he listens to classical music, so there's influence there as well. You have rock, pop, classical, folk, country, just a plethora to make Lindsey a unique guitarist. :)

[shackin'up]

DANG. No further comments.

[Mari]

that's what's so great about lindsey, you can't compare his style to any one person; he's an original :blob1:

[shackin'up]

Hmmm..... Gerald, that's not a bad idea at all. I guess I'll have to give you co-writing credit. Unlike Stevie Nicks, I acknowledge everyone's contributions to my songs. ;)

Don't start that again, Carne. i was so proud of the fact that I did not interfere in that thread. Sometimes I have to protect myself, and leave a thread what it is. Or turn it around. Some of those times the thread stops. Cool. :lol:

So I'll leave you all those credits. I just want to be the first listener. That reminds me of getting back to you on something beautiful I've heard from some hometaper ;) .

This weekend, dude.

In the right crowd on the wrong side reminds me of Kevn Kinney's best lyric ever: "If I was born on the right side of town, I would have never met you".

[face of glass]

That has nothing to do with his stage charisma. If you are longing for a steak and you get a piece of chocolate you won't be happy. Lindsey always put on great live shows, played the guitar like a maniac, he looked good, still does for his age- I honestly don`t see how he has no stage charisma.

Oh, he has charisma but that's achieved through a lot of straining and sweat. Stevie can do a lot with very little, Lindsey always needs to work hard for that.

If he trusted his stage charisma at this point in his life, he wouldn't feel the need for the guitar throwing, a show-offy element that I guess many could see being similar to Mick's vest drumming.

Stevie grabbed the attention from the beginning because of her beauty that fascinated a lot of people (as it always does) her unique voice and her songs that were more appealing to the crowd than Lindseys. To me that is O.K. but it proves nothing in terms of quality. (Otherwise Spitney was the greatest artist ever.) I bet thousands of people bought the FM and solo albums just to have the covers.

No problem in there and it does question the lastability of Stevie's work. Is she really now more relevant than Lindsey because she sells more or did the majority of TISL owners buy it only because FM hadn't released anything in a while and there were a few hits with videos?

Whatever anyone inside the Fleetwood Mac camp is doing now, it's very possibly irrelevant for the majority a hundred years from now. People will remember Peter Green's FM and Rumours and that's that. Everything they've done since is a small fart after the main dejection ;) , simply because they will never match that success again. That has nothing to do with the quality of music, it's just a fact that we all have to accept, similar to the unrelatedness of this last paragraph. :)

[strandinthewind]

Gaius - I agree that sadly, historically Stevie solo will always be BD and then maybe the next two and the Mac will be mostly Rumors, etc., and then The Dance. And that is sad to me because other great or perhaps, depending on the beholder, greater work by them exists in both areas. I mean OOTC is great and perhaps LB's benchmark, but sadly, no one but hard core fans really know it. What a shame.

But, hope springs eternal and if that Cher can have a mega comeback with Believe then I am waiting for FM's :laugh: Interestingly, CM's new record could be a huge hit and I hope it is!!!!! I love her.

[face of glass]

Oh, there's a lot of potential in Chris' upcoming album but then again I can't see her going for such populist gimmicks as there are in "Believe", such as the vocoder. But yeah, let's hope for sudden changes in listeners' attitudes. :)

[shackin'up]

I mean OOTC is great and perhaps LB's benchmark, but sadly, no one but hard core fans really know it. What a shame.

A bigger shame is, That, imo, Lindsey's benchmark would have been GOS, that that one never came to fruition as a whole. The titlesong and Twist of fate could have had some fresh effects in the charts in Europe. And from there, a lot more credit. The safe singles now don't pierce ears. A little succes in USA, but in Europe? Noone knows. The OOTC-period was very bad for Lindsey's approach to get some ears. A single like Wrong would have done much better now. So I don't understand why they don't try Miranda or Illume as a single.

[EveryHour]

that's what's so great about lindsey, you can't compare his style to any one person; he's an original :blob1:

Yessssssssssssssssssssirrrrrrrrr! :nod: :nod: :nod:

[strandinthewind]

A bigger shame is, That, imo, Lindsey's benchmark would have been GOS, that that one never came to fruition as a whole. The titlesong and Twist of fate could have had some fresh effects in the charts in Europe. And from there, a lot more credit. The safe singles now don't pierce ears. A little succes in USA, but in Europe? Noone knows. The OOTC-period was very bad for Lindsey's approach to get some ears. A single like Wrong would have done much better now. So I don't understand why they don't try Miranda or Illume as a single.

GOS would have been incredible. Fortunately, its "release" has reached a wider market than OOTC because it was released as a FM record. But, the songs were altered for Stevie and the rest of FM to be on them even though Mick and John were already on there alot I think. Also, I think it was not just altering for Stevie. I think he altered PK for the sake of appeasing WB and to ensure that it was the first single, etc. Oh those big companies and their unwillingness to experiment. I mean many of the big sellers are experimental - look at Santana - although he got au currant singers to sing to his work, radio was not exactly playing that style of music until it got released. Same with Cher's Believe - there was not a whole lot of that sound on the radio at the time. But, what do I know . . . :cool: :laugh:

[dissention]

Hmmm..... Gerald, that's not a bad idea at all. I guess I'll have to give you co-writing credit. Unlike Stevie Nicks, I acknowledge everyone's contributions to my songs. ;)

OMG, that drives me nuts!!!

I hope everyone knows that when they listen to a Stevie Nicks song, they're listening to an Edgar Allen Poe song or an Oscar Wilde song. :laugh:

[stefan]

A bigger shame is, That, imo, Lindsey's benchmark would have been GOS, that that one never came to fruition as a whole. The titlesong and Twist of fate could have had some fresh effects in the charts in Europe. And from there, a lot more credit.

Gerald I don't see that's been possible. Both songs are typical Lindsey. Twist of fate is a song in the tradition of Monday morning and WTWCT. GOS reminds me of Time bomb town with the the laughter effect. I regard these two as more conservative in comparison two some others on GOS the album. Nobody except of the fans care for that nowadays. I even doubt that more than 250000 thousand copies of the album would be sold. Why should it be more than OOTC, when he promoted it, had videos and was not 55?
I bet their time is over commercially. They should accept that and start making only the music they like and want without compromising for a record company, which doesn`t change a thing.

[shackin'up]

Gerald I don't see that's been possible. Both songs are typical Lindsey. Twist of fate is a song in the tradition of Monday morning and WTWCT. GOS reminds me of Time bomb town with the the laughter effect. I regard these two as more conservative in comparison two some others on GOS the album. Nobody except of the fans care for that nowadays. I even doubt that more than 250000 thousand copies of the album would be sold. Why should it be more than OOTC, when he promoted it, had videos and was not 55?
I bet their time is over commercially. They should accept that and start making only the music they like and want without compromising for a record company, which doesn`t change a thing.

Yes, you're right. :( But I just still try to believe that if a Lindseysong sounds Very characteristic AND different, it just should be a single. If that is not happening, I'll dream on. If it happens and it flops, THEN I want to give you credit for seeing it well. But not on forehand. (dutch english).

[shackin'up]

I'm so glad he wasn't influenced by Clapton - one of my pet hates.
*duck for ChiliD!!!*

here's a surprise for you: I hate Clapton, too. :eek:

I adore Ginger Baker, though...

[wondergirl9847]

I don't particularly care for Clapton either. :shrug:

[chiliD]

*duck for ChiliD!!!*

Thanks for those quotes Christy!
Very interesting. I'm so glad he wasn't influenced by Clapton - one of my pet hates.

here's a surprise for you: I hate Clapton, too. :eek:

I don't particularly care for Clapton either. :shrug:

HERETICS!!! :mad:

May every CD in your collections turn into Eric Clapton albums! :laugh:

[shackin'up]

HERETICS!!! :mad:

May every CD in your collections turn into Eric Clapton albums! :laugh:

If that happens I'll ship the whole truckload to:

ChiliD
You know'em
USA

[chiliD]

Don't need 'em...already got 'em, but thanks anyway! :thumbsup:

[Gazza]

Influenced by Peter Green and Jimmy Page, who were no doubt influenced/inspired by Clapton... It all comes round in the end.

[shackin'up]

Hey, what does that say? He also calls Elvis' guitarist as a big influence in other interviews. I have 0 with Elvis. Page and Green I adore!!! Hate Clapton. It's not all causal. The fact that Gary Moore is influenced by Peter Green does not say that his playing does ANYthing for me.

[face of glass]

Hell, I actually like Clapton's live playing more than Lindsey's these days. That man doesn't repeat his solos to the level that Lindsey does. Of course I pretty much dislike all of his studio releases from Another Ticket on (if you don't count From The Cradle, of course) but as a live performer he's always delivered and then some. There even the most lifeless studio material can become something else.

You don't believe me? Go listen to "Blues Power" and "Double Trouble" from the Just One Night live album. There's too little guitarists around these days who can do both the maximalism and the minimalism that well. :p

As an guitar arranger Lindsey is still tops though. :nod: