The SPOILERS Thread

[dissention]

Post your spoilers in here, hopefully this thread will help to avoid the conflicts.

:wavey:

[wondergirl9847]

I think there is something green growing in that green bowl in my fridge. Ew!!!!!

Oh wait....spoilers...okay.

;)

:lol:

[RavenOfRhiannon]

Didn't Mick say that Sara was going to be on the setlist the first time, too?

Randy

[Mike B]

Originally posted by RavenOfRhiannon
Didn't Mick say that Sara was going to be on the setlist the first time, too?


Yes! He did. I think it was before they were into rehearsals, but he did say something like "we have to do it" because so many fans want to hear it. I don't remember exactly. I think Stevie mentioned they'd be doing Monday Morning in an interview too, and according to the list board on the Destiny Rules doc, they had alot of other possibilities. So I'lll believe that Sara and the other two songs he mentioned will be in the setlist <i>when I hear them</i> and not before. ;)

I'm just encouraged by the fact that the setlist <i>will change</i>. I don't think I really care <i>what</i> they play on this next (last?) leg, just as long as it is much different than the previous 100 shows.

[strandinthewind]

I heard from more than one source that Monday Morning and SOTM were actually being rehearsed and that Smile at You as well. Note, my sources are somewhat reliable, but not to be considered as fact. In other words, I am dishin' dirt :laugh:

[wondergirl9847]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Smile at You as well.

*wets self*

:blob1::blob2:

That would be awesome!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I heard from more than one source that Monday Morning and SOTM were actually being rehearsed and that Smile at You as well. Note, my sources are somewhat reliable, but not to be considered as fact. In other words, I am dishin' dirt :laugh:

I'm fairly certain Mick spoke about how he suggested SOTM for this leg but that they decided not to add it.

What do we think will be taken off?

I think Goodbye Baby, Say Goodbye, and Beautiful Child might get the axe. I also have a feeling that since they're supposedly adding Destiny Rules back to the setlist that they'll take Second Hand News out (which was the replacement for RTTG and DR). No matter what, we're in for a big treat this time around :nod:

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847

That would be awesome!

Depends on which version...;)

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
I'm fairly certain Mick spoke about how he suggested SOTM for this leg but that they decided not to add it.

What do we think will be taken off?

I think Goodbye Baby, Say Goodbye, and Beautiful Child might get the axe. I also have a feeling that since they're supposedly adding Destiny Rules back to the setlist that they'll take Second Hand News out (which was the replacement for RTTG and DR). No matter what, we're in for a big treat this time around :nod:

I think it will be Gypsy or Beautiful Child and What's The World Coming To. Maybe Eyes Of The World, too.
If I Had my way it would be Don't Stop.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I think it will be Gypsy or Beautiful Child and What's The World Coming To. Maybe Eyes Of The World, too.
If I Had my way it would be Don't Stop.

- Jake

I know i'm probably in the minority and I know that HAVE to play it but i'd like Dreams out...Don't Stop too. Gypsy can leave...it's always been one of my favorites but I've seen it 5 times...unless they start playing an acoustic version with just Lindsey and Stevie a la the AHI benefit, I don't really care. Eyes of The World...I like it a lot but I can see them taking that off.

[joe]

Originally posted by Mike B
Yes! He did. I think it was before they were into rehearsals, but he did say something like "we have to do it" because so many fans want to hear it. I don't remember exactly.

But in the Rockline interview, he said that Stevie was "loving it" and that they were paying attention to some of the more sonic things that are on the album. So, i'm pretty certain that they're going to do it permanently.

I think BC and WTWCT are getting axed.

[AgainLindsey]

i just know it will be a stevie song to replace each stevie song dropped, and a lindsey song to replace each lindsey song omitted.

i can't imagine the band not including "second hand news" :thumbsup: or "eyes of the world" :thumbsup: as they both receive thunderous applause along with standing ovations! :) :) :) :) :) in fact, when i attended, the whole stadium stood throughtout these two songs when lindsey played and sang them. they're two of fm's fastest numbers that keep the concert really rocking! :)

"dreams" was the band's #1 hit so they'd never drop that."don't stop" has become their signature song so they'd keep that, even though its songwriter no longer tours with the group.

[dissention]

Originally posted by joe
I think BC and WTWCT are getting axed.

I most definitely think BC will be dropped. I think all of the vocally challenging songs will be removed to make room for some new ones, for example sonething like EFO. I'm crossing my fingers, folks. I'm convinced the reason RTTG was dropped was because it was so hard vocally.

[strandinthewind]

I did hear that EFO was one as well. But that is from questionably reliable sources - in other words, it is rank gossip (the kind I love!!!) :laugh:

[dissention]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I did hear that EFO was one as well. But that is from questionably reliable sources - in other words, it is rank gossip (the kind I love!!!) :laugh:

I'd pass out and not be able to enjoy it. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by dissention
I'd pass out and not be able to enjoy it. :laugh:

IMO she should make this a priduction number a la Cher. She should sing the first don't you know belt direclty at LB and the second directly at and while pointing to the audience. It would send the place to the stratosphere IMO

[dissention]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
IMO she should make this a priduction number a la Cher. She should sing the first don't you know belt direclty at LB and the second directly at and while pointing to the audience. It would send the place to the stratosphere IMO

:laugh: She could come out with this long, schnazzy wig and be sitting on the top of a lion, too.

A disco ball could be lowered from the ceiling and with the very last "Don't you knoooooooooooowwwwwwww?!" the music and the lights would stop completely and the disco ball would explode, releasing glitter and streamers all over the stage.

Wow. :laugh:

[Sorcerer386]

The problem doing EFO live, which is noted a little in the DR documentary, is that there's that immediate change in vocal from "She's done it a thousand times" to "When love starts out..." I don't think they know how to handle the transition, although it could be simple really. Either have LB sing the intro (it's low enough for him to sing) or, as I had thought before, they should just play the studio vocal of the intro in the background and then go into her singing live at "When love starts out." However, I don't think they'll do that...so it just leaves LB singing the intro, which shouldn't be much of a problem. I hope they add it, but I won't hold my breath.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Depends on which version...;)

- Jake

We already can bet it's not going to be the Mirage version. I don't want to hear it in it's current form.

[RavenOfRhiannon]

I don't think BC will be dropped. It's gotten a lot of press and the audiences LOVE it. BC is the Silver Springs of this tour IMO.

Randy

[Hawkeye]

BC is the Silver Springs of this tour IMO.

I'm pretty sure Silver Springs is the Silver Springs of this tour:laugh:

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
We already can bet it's not going to be the Mirage version. I don't want to hear it in it's current form.

Agreed, not to mention the SYW version's chorus would be one interesting sound live.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
The problem doing EFO live, which is noted a little in the DR documentary, is that there's that immediate change in vocal from "She's done it a thousand times" to "When love starts out..." I don't think they know how to handle the transition, although it could be simple really. Either have LB sing the intro (it's low enough for him to sing) or, as I had thought before, they should just play the studio vocal of the intro in the background and then go into her singing live at "When love starts out." However, I don't think they'll do that...so it just leaves LB singing the intro, which shouldn't be much of a problem. I hope they add it, but I won't hold my breath.

Sharon and Jana could pick up part of the vocals so that Stevie will be able to properly transition into the next verse. I've actually thought about it and it appears to be possible.

Jason---if you got my hopes up for nothing, we're throwin' down in Atlanta! :laugh:

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
The problem doing EFO live, which is noted a little in the DR documentary, is that there's that immediate change in vocal from "She's done it a thousand times" to "When love starts out..." I don't think they know how to handle the transition, although it could be simple really. Either have LB sing the intro (it's low enough for him to sing) or, as I had thought before, they should just play the studio vocal of the intro in the background and then go into her singing live at "When love starts out." However, I don't think they'll do that...so it just leaves LB singing the intro, which shouldn't be much of a problem. I hope they add it, but I won't hold my breath.

They could also change how they play it, so there is a pause there. For instance, later in the song, it's sung a little differently with plenty of time to transition. THey could have hear singing the verse, then a big building up with drums for about a measure a la Stand Back, then she shoots back in with "When love starts out in the darkness..."

I certainly hope they do it!

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by sodascouts
They could also change how they play it, so there is a pause there. For instance, later in the song, it's sung a little differently with plenty of time to transition. THey could have hear singing the verse, then a big building up with drums for about a measure a la Stand Back, then she shoots back in with "When love starts out in the darkness..."

I certainly hope they do it!

That's what I could see them doing, adding a pause.

And I hope they do it just so you can have a new version to play in your car next time you drive through Phoenix, Nancy.;) :wavey:

- Jake

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
Jason---if you got my hopes up for nothing, we're throwin' down in Atlanta! :laugh:

Well, it could play out this way, they play it opening night when I am on like third the row and then they drop it one week later in Atlanta, when you'll be there. So. . .

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Well, it could play out this way, they play it opening night when I am on like third the row and then they drop it one week later in Atlanta, when you'll be there. So. . .

My luck, they'll drop it right before they go to Atlanta :laugh: As long as one of us gets to see it and reports back to the other, I suppose it's all good :nod:

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
That's what I could see them doing, adding a pause.

And I hope they do it just so you can have a new version to play in your car next time you drive through Phoenix, Nancy.;) :wavey:

- Jake

With you in the backseat suffering in silence? ;) Or at leat you were silent until the fourth or fifth time I pumped up the volume on it , and hit repeat. Or was it the sixth or seventh? LOL!

"ALL I CAN HEAR IS STEVIE! TURN IT DOWN!"

[stratist3217]

They had better not drop Eyes of the World and Come. That's all that matters. As long as they have those 2 songs, I'm happy.

I can see them dropping Peacekeeper, as that song is waaaaaaaaaaaay overplayed. I also have a feeling that Say You Will, Say Goodbye (I have no clue why they even considered playing a song with that title in the middle of the show), What's the World Coming To, World Turning (or at least the vest solo), and Goodbye Baby will also get the axe.

[chiliD]

If anyone noticed, "You Make Loving Fun" was also on that board of 3x5 cards during the Destiny Rules doc.

[strandinthewind]

If anyone noticed, "You Make Loving Fun" was also on that board of 3x5 cards during the Destiny Rules doc.


I think they tried out one or two popular CM songs to see how they would sound. I think they realized without CM they kind of didn't work.

[Johnny Stew]

I think it would be cool if they dropped "I'm So Afraid" in favor of "Murrow," dropped "What's The World Coming To" in favor of "Miranda," dropped "Gypsy" in favor of "Everybody Finds Out," and "Beautiful Child" in favor of "Sara" (although I think "Beautiful Child" has been PHENOMENAL on this tour, they don't really need to do two languid ballads).

Then add "Don't Let Me Down Again," "Destiny Rules," and "What Makes You Think You're The One" (or "I Know I'm Not Wrong," which is a favorite of mine).

[wondergirl9847]

Even tho I can NEVER hear ISA enough, I would be FINE with all of those changes. :thumbsup:

Although, since Mick said Sara was added, how about adding Storms and dropping Beautiful Child? BC is my fave Tusk song, but I'd love to hear Storms as well.

[dontlookdown]

the whole idea of comparing SN to Cher is really depressing.
Stevie is a singer and a songwriter. Cher can't sing and she can't write songs.
She is a great actor and an entertainer but when it comes to rock and roll - there's no point in discussing her in the same sentence as anyone in Fleetwood Mac - or any other great band for that matter.

[strandinthewind]

I beg to differ, Cher has a unique but good voice. She is just older now, but she still has it. Interestingly, when she started out her voice was so powerful, she would have to stand at least like five feet from the mike when singing in the studio and 10 feet when singing back up :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

Eyes of The World...I like it a lot but I can see them taking that off.

Me too, and if I had to sacrifice a song, well, that would be it.

I am getting so excited with all this talk of a new setlist. "I feel like a kid in some kind of store."---Homer Simpson

As far as additions: I hope they add SOTM and Sara, to hear Sara live is a lifelong dream and I hope it comes true. "Smile at You" would be a great addition but I REALLY wish that they would revive some B/N stuff like "Don't Let me Down Again." Can you imagine how awesome that would be? I would be reduced to a puddle on the floor after that performance. :blob2:

Either breathe some life in Gypsy or axe it, same goes for Go Your Own Way and Rhiannon. Silver Springs could use some pep a la the Rumours re-issue version.

How about a little Red Rover? That would be amazing live, I just wonder if it can be recreated live with the big, overlay sound it has.

[cliffdweller]

I think they tried out one or two popular CM songs to see how they would sound. I think they realized without CM they kind of didn't work.

And why would they work? I think it's a bad idea to do Chris's songs, I think they should drop "World Turning", I mean why do it without Chris? Same goes for "Don't Stop" (here's a good excuse to drop it :laugh: ).

Stevie and Lindsey have PLENTY of songs to round out a set without having to do Chris's stuff. I mean it'd be like Chris doing Gypsy or Rhiannon for Stevie if she wasn't there, it just doesn't make any sense!

[sodascouts]

I think it would be cool if they dropped "I'm So Afraid" in favor of "Murrow,"

The rest I agree with, but ISA MUST REMAIN. It's not a song, it's an experience!

[Johnny Stew]

The rest I agree with, but ISA MUST REMAIN. It's not a song, it's an experience!I dunno, I think "Murrow" would be an experience, too!

'Sides, I absolutely want them to start performing that song live (even though it's not like I attend any shows! *lol*), and the guitar solos for those two songs might be just a little too similar to keep both in the setlist... so "So Afraid" has to go! *lol*

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I think the should drop Peacekeeper, I'm So Afraid, Dreams, and What's the World Coming to and do the set like this :

The Chain
Eyes of the World
Say You Will
Don't Let me Down Again
Gold Dust Woman
Come
Second Hand News
Sara
---------Acoustic set------
Big Love
Landslide
Gypsy (Acoustic)
Never Going Back Again
Destiny Rules
Say Goodbye
Beautiful Child
------------
World Turning
Oh Well
Rhiannon
Save Me A Place
Silver Springs
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
----
Crystal


It may not be the hardcore fans' DREAM set list, but it gives us something cool, and still pleases the casual fans who HAVE to hear go your own way, rhiannon etc....I think it's a logical set..what do u all think?

Chris

[cliffdweller]

I dunno, I think "Murrow" would be an experience, too!

'Sides, I absolutely want them to start performing that song live (even though it's not like I attend any shows! *lol*), and the guitar solos for those two songs might be just a little too similar to keep both in the setlist... so "So Afraid" has to go! *lol*

I'm afraid I agree, although dropping "So Afraid" would NOT be popular among hard-core Lindsey fanatics, Hi Christy! :wavey: :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I dunno, I think "Murrow" would be an experience, too!



I saw it live - it was - it needs to be added NOW :cool:

[shackin'up]

The rest I agree with, but ISA MUST REMAIN. It's not a song, it's an experience!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!!!!!

Drop World turning, Don't stop, Silver Springs and Gypsy,

add DR, Sara, DLMDA, EFO, IKINW, The Ledge and Save me a place. The latter three fit in the time Mick uses usually. :lol:

gerald

[chiliD]

And why would they work? I think it's a bad idea to do Chris's songs, I think they should drop "World Turning", I mean why do it without Chris? Same goes for "Don't Stop" (here's a good excuse to drop it :laugh: ).

Stevie and Lindsey have PLENTY of songs to round out a set without having to do Chris's stuff. I mean it'd be like Chris doing Gypsy or Rhiannon for Stevie if she wasn't there, it just doesn't make any sense!


Bad logic. Chris' tune were "hits"...they actually should feel OBLIGATED to play MORE of them. Just the same as when the subsequent band members did Peter Green, Danny Kirwan or Bob Welch (and during his departure, even Lindsey's) tunes...why should Chris' tunes be omitted? This is FLEETWOOD MAC, not BUCKINGHAM NICKS.

[Cammie]

:wavey: SPOILERS DO NOT WORRY US!!! :blob1: :blob2:
We want to know ALL! :laugh: We say... why not drop
tired-out:shrug:Landslide and KEEP 'SAY GOODBYE':xoxo:
Such a 'Goodie' for Emotion and Close Harmonies! Sky:p

Christy... :eek: Found some green slime in our frig!!!:shocked: :o

[wondergirl9847]

I'm afraid I agree, although dropping "So Afraid" would NOT be popular among hard-core Lindsey fanatics, Hi Christy! :wavey: :laugh:

Yeah, I'd probably go insane (heh) not hearing it again for the trillionth time, but hearing Murrow would KICK!! I cannot WAIT to see him do it on Soundstage!!!!!!!


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[sodascouts]

I saw it live - it was - it needs to be added NOW :cool:

I was uinimpressed by the "Murrow had a child... in his grave.... the damn thing went wild... in his grave" version of the chorus. It creeped me out. He can't sing both himself, or it no longer makes sense. And somehow I can't see Sharon and Janna piping in to do the alternate part on that as they do their Temptations moves in the background.