Planets of the Universe---"No Light"

[cliffdweller]

Who, besides me, is totally digging this version on the Rumours re-issue? I find myself constantly humming it every day!!! I think it sounds very unique and different from Stevie's other stuff, the sound and flow is just amazing. It got me to thinking about Lindsey's comment in "Performing Songwriter" concerning what he loves most about Stevie's songwriting: "her sense of rhythm". I think this statement is proven in this song, the rhythm of the vocal is just amazing!!

Any thoughts?

:wavey:

[David]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
Who, besides me, is totally digging this version on the Rumours re-issue? I find myself constantly humming it every day!!! I think it sounds very unique and different from Stevie's other stuff, the sound and flow is just amazing. It got me to thinking about Lindsey's comment in "Performing Songwriter" concerning what he loves most about Stevie's songwriting: "her sense of rhythm". I think this statement is proven in this song, the rhythm of the vocal is just amazing!!

Any thoughts? I think it's really interesting that it's in triple meter. That's uncommon for Stevie. Fleetwood Mac seems to be winging it throughout much of the song. I guess the song's arrangement hadn't been totally hammered into place when this was recorded.

I still think "Butter Cookie" is the best thing on there -- the best thing I've ever heard by Fleetwood Mac, in fact.

[golden braid]

I love this version of Planets of the Universe too. I keep listening to it over and over again. I just has a different feel to it than some of Stevie's other songs.

[sodascouts]

It's pretty good, but I can see why they didn't use it for Rumours.

[darklinensuit]

I like it, especially the do-do-do part at the end, but I prefer the demo with just her and the piano. That vocal is amazing.

- Jake

[Siri Ruane]

I have this downloaded.. somewhere. Excuse me while I dig it out out of my stupid documents and refresh my memory. :rolleyes:

[Livia]

I LOVE it! But I can totally see what Stevie meant when she said that FM could never really figure out what to do w/ it. I love the original demo and I also love the TISL version (thank you, John Shanks!). But, I ALSO love the remixes - I cranked up that CD on Saturday while I was vacuuming! LOL

I absolutely love this song, in any form. It's one of Stevie's best, lyrically, imo. Even the "mean" verse.

:nod:

[strandinthewind]

ITA Livia, even though I prefer the piano demo to them all !!!!!!!

:cool:

[Johnny Stew]

I'd rate the "extended album version" from the maxi-single, as the best version... then the original piano demo second, and the 'Rumours' bonus disc version third.

It's a brilliant song in any form, but I think the 'TISL' version approach was the absolute best. :)

[strandinthewind]

I also have a demo with a synth playing. I cannot tell the era, but it sounds like RAL maybe. That version is pretty cool, but nowhere near the TISL one.

[wondergirl9847]

She could WHISTLE the dang song and I would love that version! LOL I just adore this song in ANY form. I started tearing up when listening to the Rumours bonus disk version. I'm a goober, sue me. :laugh:

I love listening to the Tracy Young remix....that sucker KICKS and I usually HATE and DESPISE remixes! 10 minutes of greatness!! :thumbsup:

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
ITA Livia, even though I prefer the piano demo to them all !!!!!!!

:cool:

As I said, you're finally making sense.;)

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
She could WHISTLE the dang song and I would love that version!

Like in What Has Rock And Roll Ever Done For You?:laugh:

- Jake

[dissention]

My faves are the Rumours version and the extended album version. The Rumours one is greatness. I'm in love with it. The piano demo? Not so much. For the most part, I don't like the piano demos.

[Janis_no1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Johnny Stew
[B]I'd rate the "extended album version" from the maxi-single, as the best version... then the original piano demo second, and the 'Rumours' bonus disc version third.

I have this single, i shall have to go listen to it tonight! Over here in Australia we STILL haven't even got the new cd's!! I'm still waiting... waiting.... waiting while reading all these fastastic review of what all your favourites are:rolleyes: (jsut complaining)

WHEN IS IT OUR TURN DAMMIT!!! AARRRRR:distress:

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by sodascouts
It's pretty good, but I can see why they didn't use it for Rumours.

Yeah, I'm thinking it doesn't "fit" on the album because it's more complex musically than the other songs. It's definitely different.

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I like it, especially the do-do-do part at the end, but I prefer the demo with just her and the piano. That vocal is amazing.

- Jake

I haven't heard this but would like to! :nod:

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
It's a brilliant song in any form, but I think the 'TISL' version approach was the absolute best. :)

I don't think I like the "big production" sound of the TISL version. I prefer the intimacy of the re-issue version. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by dissention
My faves are the Rumours version and the extended album version. The Rumours one is greatness. I'm in love with it. The piano demo? Not so much. For the most part, I don't like the piano demos.

Except for the Sisters of the Moon piano demo right? That gives me chills, it's probably my most favorite version of any song she's ever done. I know, grand claim....

[Mad4stevie]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
I don't think I like the "big production" sound of the TISL version. I prefer the intimacy of the re-issue version. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

I totally agree. I am not a big fan of over-production.

I love this version, but I also like the passion in the piano demo.

I miss the "I still wish you gone, and I will live alone" from the piano demo. Why didn't she include it on this version? That is one of my most favorite lyrics in the song!

[Janis_no1]

I JUST WANT TO HEAR THIS VERSION... oh the frustration.. Australia wants these releases too!!!

[EveryHour]

Stevie's rhythm and vocal timing in general is one of the many reasons I love her so much. Moves me to pieces...gives me shivers. Totally unique. Whether it's due to musical naivete or not...I don't really care. It's wonderful.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
Except for the Sisters of the Moon piano demo right? That gives me chills, it's probably my most favorite version of any song she's ever done. I know, grand claim.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I'd rate the "extended album version" from the maxi-single, as the best version

:nod: :nod: :nod: The extra verse followed by the guitar solo just makes it perfect.

[dissention]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
Except for the Sisters of the Moon piano demo right? That gives me chills, it's probably my most favorite version of any song she's ever done. I know, grand claim....

Ohmigod, that one gives me chills. It's among the greatest things she's ever recorded. EVER. :nod: :nod: :nod:

[Janis_no1]

I love the piano version of planets of the universe, it is just one of those songs that you dont have to try to remember- you just do. It's got so much emotion in that version that obviously relects feelings at the time she recorded and you can just feel it as every word is sung. The cd version cant mimic that, the song though all glam'd up sounds great, i love what John did with it, though the piano version to me never leaves my mind, its a haunting song.

[cliffdweller]

Where can I find the piano demo? I haven't heard it.

[Janis_no1]

You have to look out for it, throwndown.net is a great site that tells you all the updates for mp3 stevie/fmac files current;y available. But i can send you the file if you like, its not too big 1.6mb so if you let me know your address i can send it to you.

By the way, RE: Sisters of the moon, which is the really good demo?? I have three but im not sure wha the difference is?? ie: track time or size of the file that is the great version.. I think i may not even have it

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by Janis_no1
You have to look out for it, throwndown.net is a great site that tells you all the updates for mp3 stevie/fmac files current;y available. But i can send you the file if you like, its not too big 1.6mb so if you let me know your address i can send it to you.

By the way, RE: Sisters of the moon, which is the really good demo?? I have three but im not sure wha the difference is?? ie: track time or size of the file that is the great version.. I think i may not even have it

Thanks. I'll P.M. you my email address.

By happy accident, I downloaded The Sisters of the Moon piano demo from, I think audiognome, but I could be wrong. Like I said, I stumbled upon it and now I don't know where it is! That reminds me, I really need to clean out my files....

:wavey:

[strandinthewind]

Well, there are two :laugh: Or least I have one that has her talking before and after and then one where there is no talking. I do not think they are the same. :cool:

[SoulDrifter21]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
I don't think I like the "big production" sound of the TISL version. I prefer the intimacy of the re-issue version. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

Totally! Don't you think this would have been a great track to close out Rumours with? What a powerful ending statement it would have been!

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
I don't think I like the "big production" sound of the TISL version. I prefer the intimacy of the re-issue version. I think it's absolutely beautiful.

Interestingly, the intimacy in the demo on the re-issue more likely than not would not have been on any final product. I mean Rumors is great, but it is glossy and has a big sound. Food for Thought!

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Interestingly, the intimacy in the demo on the re-issue more likely than not would not have been on any final product. I mean Rumors is great, but it is glossy and has a big sound. Food for Thought!

What if they changed the sequencing (I know, sacrilege) so that the three least produced sounding songs were together: Songbird, NGBA, and the piano POTU? It worked for the last two songs on Say You Will. More food for thought.

- Jake

[dissention]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
What if they changed the sequencing (I know, sacrilege) so that the three least produced sounding songs were together: Songbird, NGBA, and the piano POTU? It worked for the last two songs on Say You Will. More food for thought.

- Jake

OMG, I'd gag if they had released the piano demo for POTU on Rumours. it would be the only song that I'd skip on a perfect album. She has a pretty voice on it, but a piano player she ain't. ;) Now, if they had released the SOTM piano demo on Tusk, I'd be a satisfied customer.

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by dissention
OMG, I'd gag if they had released the piano demo for POTU on Rumours. it would be the only song that I'd skip on a perfect album. She has a pretty voice on it, but a piano player she ain't. ;) Now, if they had released the SOTM piano demo on Tusk, I'd be a satisfied customer.

Who's playing piano on the SOTM demo?

- Jake

[dissention]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Who's playing piano on the SOTM demo?

- Jake

Stevie is, but she does it amazingly well. For once she doesn't sound like a five year old who had too much chocolate and was let loose in their aunts piano room. ;) It's one of her best demos available.

[strandinthewind]

It and "Julia" :cool:

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by dissention
Stevie is, but she does it amazingly well. For once she doesn't sound like a five year old who had too much chocolate and was let loose in their aunts piano room. ;) It's one of her best demos available.

Not sure I understand the chocolate reference. You can call Stevie's playing simplistic, but it hardly sounds hyper to me.

- Jake

[dissention]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Not sure I understand the chocolate reference. You can call Stevie's playing simplistic, but it hardly sounds hyper to me.

- Jake

:confused: It sounds like she's just pounding on the piano for no apparent reason to these ears. Simplistic is an understatement. Those piano demos were at their worst in the seventies, which is why I'm shocked that the SOTM one is so amazing.

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by dissention
:confused: It sounds like she's just pounding on the piano for no apparent reason to these ears. Simplistic is an understatement. Those piano demos were at their worst in the seventies, which is why I'm shocked that the SOTM one is so amazing.

Forest of The Black Roses & Maker of Birds sound like pounding keys to you?

- Jake

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by SoulDrifter21
Totally! Don't you think this would have been a great track to close out Rumours with? What a powerful ending statement it would have been!

:nod:

The band would never have agreed to it unfortunately. :distress:

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by dissention
Stevie is, but she does it amazingly well. For once she doesn't sound like a five year old who had too much chocolate and was let loose in their aunts piano room.



:laugh:

Funny how her five year old playing works for her demo purposes though. I've always thought that Stevie does AMAZINGLY well creating songs with such skeletal demos. It's almost awe inspiring.