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Johnny Stew
03-19-2004, 12:36 AM
Thanks to Tracy G. (www.burnish.net), Mike & Hayley for this information....

According to record company release sheets, Fleetwood Mac's Soundstage performance is tentatively scheduled to be released the week of May 2nd, on CD and DVD.

GardenStateGirlie
03-19-2004, 12:39 AM
Thanks for posting this!! I cannot wait to see/hear it!!! :nod:

ShangriLaTroubl
03-19-2004, 12:57 AM
Thats weird they would release it before it airs...hmmm

Chris

DownOnRodeo
03-19-2004, 01:21 AM
Seems too good to be true. But then that explains the almighty rush to finish it. Lindsey, Mick and Stevie were apparently flying to Geneva after the Australian tour (if not directly) to record overdubs. I'm wrapped then.... because this will be like The Dance but with the powerful new arrangements, new songs, and general rocking out of this tour! As well as something to rival 'Landslide' from The Dance... Say Goodbye. :nod: I just hope that the Boston concert was something to equal the shows I saw in Australia. Going by the 'SHN' taping shown on Dick Clark's NYE, it looked great. The band seem to put on an extra special show when they know they're being taped.

Johnny Stew
03-19-2004, 01:52 AM
Hopefully the DVD will include the full setlist, but obviously the CD will need to be cut down to about 16 or 17 tracks, unless they release a double set (which I highly doubt).

So, for a little bit of fun... from the setlist below, which tracks would everyone most prefer they include on a CD?
Limiting it to 16 or 17.

The Chain
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Peacekeeper
Second Hand News
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Come
Gypsy
Big Love
Landslide
Say Goodbye
What's The World Coming To
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Goodbye Baby

Johnny Stew
03-19-2004, 02:00 AM
My preferred track-listing:

1. The Chain
2. Eyes Of The World (editing out most of the drum intro, which sounds a little too similar to the drum intro for "SHN")
3. Say You Will
4. Peacekeeper
5. Second Hand News
6. Gypsy
7. Say Goodbye
9. What's The World Coming To
10. Beautiful Child
11. Gold Dust Woman
12. Tusk
13. Stand Back
14. Go Your Own Way
15. World Turning (with the drum-pad solo seriously edited down)
16. Goodbye Baby

DownOnRodeo
03-19-2004, 02:53 AM
Remember how Lindsey wanted 'Gypsy' and 'EOTW' to make The Dance CD cut, and not 'Rhiannon', but got overruled by the label? Maybe this time he'll get his wish and Rhiannon won't make the cut! (Scandalous I know..) And from the label's eyes its a fairly reasonable since The Dance, with Rhiannon and all, was only released fairly recently. That said, the label may again be of the opinion that 'not enough people will buy it if it doesn't come with Dreams and Rhiannon'. We can only hope Lindsey won this time.. except that I think Rhiannon was way better this time around than The Dance (regardless of the piano intro). And yeah JS - after watching the 'Destiny Rules' doco, it seems unlikely that this CD release will be a double one! :distress:

1 The Chain
2 Eyes Of The World
3 Peacekeeper
4 Second Hand News
5 Say You Will
6 Never Going Back Again
7 Rhiannon (Lindsey's harmonies are too good to discard)
8 Come
9 Gypsy
10 Say Goodbye
11 What's The World Coming To
12 Beautiful Child
13 Silver Springs
14 Go Your Own Way
15 World Turning (with heavily edited drum solo - awesome in concert, but not much point on CD IMO)
16 Goodbye Baby

sparky
03-19-2004, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
That said, the label may again be of the opinion that 'not enough people will buy it if it doesn't come with Dreams and Rhiannon'.

I will submit to Dreams, but please, Reprise, spare me the draggy assed shadow-it's-former-self Rhiannon has become.

Johnny Stew
03-19-2004, 03:10 AM
I didn't want to duplicate too many of the tracks from the 'Dance' CD (I only ended up doubling up on 3 songs), but it was really hard for me to not include "Rhiannon," "Landslide" and "Silver Springs" especially.

I wouldn't mind dropping "Second Hand News" for "Rhiannon" though (which, even though it can never quite live up to those mid-70s performances, is really rocking on this tour).

So how about something like this (which also now gives Stevie & Lindsey an even amount of writing credits)....

1. The Chain
2. Eyes Of The World
3. Say You Will
4. Peacekeeper
5. Rhiannon
6. Say Goodbye
7. Gypsy
9. What's The World Coming To
10. Beautiful Child
11. Gold Dust Woman
12. Tusk
13. Stand Back
14. Go Your Own Way
15. World Turning (w/ edited drum-solo)
16. Goodbye Baby

Gazza
03-19-2004, 03:57 AM
How can you not have Come in there? That's probably the highlight of the new songs (or possibly Say Goodbye).

David R
03-19-2004, 05:39 AM
Dvd and CD? How very interesting. I hope everything is on the dvd, I am not so concerned about the CD because I can just record from the dvd on a cd. But of course I will buy the cd too.

ryan8472
03-19-2004, 07:31 AM
I never knew they were putting this on CD too! I guess everyone who thought there would be a live album from this tour was right! As for the edit I'd choose...

1. The Chain
2. Dreams
3. Peacekeeper
4. Eyes of the World
5. Say You Will
6. Come
7. Gypsy
8. Big Love
9. Landslide
10. Say Goodbye
11. Beautiful Child
12. Gold Dust Woman
13. Tusk
14. Stand Back
15. Go Your Own Way
16. World Turning (edit)
17. Goodbye Baby

I kept it at 17 to be about the same length as The Dance CD. Now, the only thing that would be better than the Boston show being released would be if the Columbus show were released instead, with RTTG and Destiny Rules :nod: .

diamondsnake
03-19-2004, 07:41 AM
I'm so excited and I just can't hide it! Although, I'll be this cd/dvd will not sell as many as the Dance, but I am glad they decided to do this. Us FM fans are getting spoiled lately! Documentory, dvds, new tour, reissues! I love it!

I hope the cd includes all of the new songs sans Come. And they should not have Silver Springs on the cd because that was sort of the highlight of the Dance. So SS would seem forced and it wouldn't make the Dance version as special, does anyone get what I am saying?

WelshWitchPMD
03-19-2004, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Going by the 'SHN' taping shown on Dick Clark's NYE, it looked great. The band seem to put on an extra special show when they know they're being taped.

That's because I was there Joe, ;) :laugh:

DownOnRodeo
03-19-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by WelshWitchPMD
That's because I was there Joe, ;) :laugh:

The Pattie factor! The secret to any tapeworthy concert. ;)
"I never perform without it," endorses Fleetwood Mac frontman Lindsey Buckingham.

Available at most shows.



:laugh:

hayley
03-19-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Thanks to Tracy G. (www.burnish.net), Mike & Hayley for this information....

According to record company release sheets, Fleetwood Mac's Soundstage performance is tentatively scheduled to be released the week of May 2nd, on CD and DVD.

On Tracy's, I mistakenly said Tuesday May 5- that Tuesday should of course actually be Tuesday May 4.

Releases are often referred to as being in something like "the week of May 2" because Soundscan weeks end on Saturdays, and the beginning of a new sales week starts on Sunday. May 2 is a Sunday- therefore with a street date of May 4, it would be considered the week of May 2.

I don't work at Warners- and I don't know anything other than the existence of the CD & DVD being (TENTATIVELY- these very likely will get pushed back) scheduled for May 4. What I'm more curious about is what configuration they'll be. My company's been experimenting a lot with CD/DVD packages- packaging an audio CD w/ a DVD. It's become a pain because we'll release two packages- one in a CD configuration (in a jewel case) and the other in an amaray package (a DVD case) of the same exact thing. If we were putting this out, I'm sure we'd do it as a combo. I don't think Warners will, though.

Totally useless information.

CarneVaca
03-19-2004, 10:54 AM
May 4 has got to be wrong. There's no way the DVD and CD will come out before the TV airing of the show.

Here's definitive setlist on the CD:

Eyes of the World
Peacekeeper
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Come
Gypsy
Say Goodbye
What's The World Coming To
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Goodbye Baby

estranged4life
03-19-2004, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by hayley
I don't work at Warners- and I don't know anything other than the existence of the CD & DVD being (TENTATIVELY- these very likely will get pushed back) scheduled for May 4. What I'm more curious about is what configuration they'll be.
Totally useless information.

I will ask one of my trading friends who has a very reliable <i>inside source</i> at Warners/WEA (The source is a older sibling.)

Just like I said before, <b>ANY</b> major arena touring act has either released a DVD or a CD of their past tour as a document for their fans (In Paul McCartney case there was 2 separate concerts collection, With different tracklistings and a DVD).

Brian j.

Merf
03-19-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Gazza
How can you not have Come in there? That's probably the highlight of the new songs (or possibly Say Goodbye).

Amen! "Come" must be included, it is a highlight of the show!

sodascouts
03-19-2004, 11:37 AM
Mine:

The Chain
Dreams
Peacekeeper
Second Hand News
Say You Will
Come
Gypsy
Big Love
Landslide
Say Goodbye
What's The World Coming To
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Goodbye Baby

------

There are mine - I went ahead and kept Dreams on, even though I'd much rather have NGBA, because there's no way it won't be left off. I do have hope for the absence of Rhiannon.

As for Come - YEAH!

dissention
03-19-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I didn't want to duplicate too many of the tracks from the 'Dance' CD (I only ended up doubling up on 3 songs), but it was really hard for me to not include "Rhiannon," "Landslide" and "Silver Springs" especially.

I wouldn't mind dropping "Second Hand News" for "Rhiannon" though (which, even though it can never quite live up to those mid-70s performances, is really rocking on this tour).

So how about something like this (which also now gives Stevie & Lindsey an even amount of writing credits)....

1. The Chain
2. Eyes Of The World
3. Say You Will
4. Peacekeeper
5. Rhiannon
6. Say Goodbye
7. Gypsy
9. What's The World Coming To
10. Beautiful Child
11. Gold Dust Woman
12. Tusk
13. Stand Back
14. Go Your Own Way
15. World Turning (w/ edited drum-solo)
16. Goodbye Baby

You must include Come and I'm So Afraid, though. :laugh: They both lasted almost an extra two minutes each!

dissention
03-19-2004, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't get my hopes up for these releases. If they're put out along with PBS, PBS will probably keep them from the public for another one or two months. They usually use them to solicit donations.

Anyone on here willing to shed any lgiht on this? Mike or Hayley? You guys are the big wigs around here. :nod:

Dar
03-19-2004, 02:56 PM
Though I'm eagarly waiting for the Fleetwood Mac soundstage to come the one I really want is Lindsey's Chicago taping. I was there and it was simply breath taking to watch. Does anyone have a clue as to when we get this?


Darlene

hayley
03-19-2004, 03:00 PM
I can't shed light on what's actually going to happen with these releases, only the generality of what happens with product similar to these in most cases.

Everyone's assuming too much about these being from the Soundstage special and associated with PBS. Just because this was filmed under the Soundstage banner doesn't mean they have the rights to distribute these videos unless the band signs off on it. Why let Soundstage and PBS distribute them when they can let Warners? I'm sure when they entered into their agreement with PBS and the concert was filmed, they knew that they would be retaining the rights to the special.

Soundstage is a relatively small potatoes show- they are by far one of the bigger acts to ever appear on the show, and their appearance was likely contingent on the fact they'd have control of the product, and would have the built-in promotion via PBS right there.

What I'm trying to say is- just because this footage is supposed to be used for a Soundstage special doesn't mean it will be EXCLUSIVE to Soundstage. It makes NO difference when PBS airs this, because FMac more than likely is in control of the DVD and audio product from the concert. The PBS airdates will have relatively little to do with when the disc will come out.

Having said that, I'm sure the 5/4 date will not stick. DVD product often gets shuffled around schedules due to production issues and relative non-importance. But this is a relatively large release, being Fleetwood Mac. Honestly, I would estimate it landing more like 5/25.

SuzeQuze
03-19-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by WelshWitchPMD
That's because I was there Joe, ;) :laugh:

The show in Boston was phenomenal. I was there too, very near Stevie's mic and it was the show of a lifetime for me, no kidding. This DVD will be a real treat!

~Susan

WelshWitchPMD
03-19-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
The Pattie factor! The secret to any tapeworthy concert. ;)
"I never perform without it," endorses Fleetwood Mac frontman Lindsey Buckingham.

Available at most shows.



:laugh:

I am sure the band is watching the tape going "oh no we have to cut the strange brunette out!"

However, I was at both shows and it was amazing!:)

DownOnRodeo
03-19-2004, 06:49 PM
Thanks for your insights Hayley. :wavey:

marc402
03-19-2004, 08:28 PM
wow i love this on dvd cd
but making this list was hard (too hard ;)
tried to eliminate most of the dance doubles
and wanted to cut no new song
but still getting it down to 17 was hard
and i put rhianon at the begining as i deleted the chain and i don't think dreams would be a good opener

but just like gyow and don't stop you can't not have it in there

Rhiannon
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Peacekeeper
Second Hand News
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Come
Gypsy
Landslide
Say Goodbye
What's The World Coming To
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop

Johnny Stew
03-19-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Gazza
How can you not have Come in there? That's probably the highlight of the new songs (or possibly Say Goodbye). Originally posted by Merf
Amen! "Come" must be included, it is a highlight of the show! Originally posted by dissention
You must include Come and I'm So Afraid, though. :laugh: They both lasted almost an extra two minutes each! Well... I felt that we might be in the territory of a little too much guitar soloing if we include those tracks.
"Go Your Own Way" has a blistering solo, and a few of the other tracks have nice little solos too... so I didn't think it was entirely necessary to include two songs that have 4 minute solos.

I also think that you have to actually see Lindsey performing it, to totally enjoy the live versions of "Come."
But maybe that's just me.

Everyone's lists look cool... and I see we're all pretty much of the same mind as far as the bulk of what we think should be included.
I'm certain Stevie & Lindsey will have an equal amount of songwriting credits though.

diamondsnake
03-20-2004, 09:25 PM
The Chain
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Second Hand News
Say You Will
Gypsy
Say Goodbye
What's The World Coming To
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Goodbye Baby

Anyone like this setlist for the cd?

estranged4life
03-21-2004, 12:14 AM
my trader friend's <i>sibling</i> (Who works for WEA/Warners) said that there is something in the works for FM, But what that exactly is remains to be unknown at this time.

Should know more by Monday,

Brian j.

ShangriLaTroubl
03-21-2004, 12:19 AM
My setlist for the CD would be this :

1. THE CHAIN
2. EYES OF THE WORLD
3. SAY YOU WILL
4. SECOND HAND NEWS
5. NEVER GOIN BACK AGAIN
6. RHIANNON
7. GYPSY
8. COME
9. BIG LOVE
10. LANDSLIDE
11. SAY GOODBYE
12. BEAUTIFUL CHILD
13. GOLD DUST WOMAN
14. TUSK
15. STAND BACK
16. GO YOUR OWN WAY
17. DONT STOP
18. GOODBYE BABY


Chris

wondergirl9847
03-21-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by estranged4life
my trader friend's <i>sibling</i> (Who works for WEA/Warners) said that there is something in the works for FM, But what that exactly is remains to be unknown at this time.

Should know more by Monday,

Brian j.

Can't wait to find out!!! :blob1:

Johnny Stew
03-21-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by wondergirl9847
Can't wait to find out!!!I'm with you, Christy.
I spend every day waiting for the day when everybody finds out!

;)

wondergirl9847
03-21-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I'm with you, Christy.
I spend every day waiting for the day when everybody finds out!

;)

Ba dum bum. ;)

:laugh:

Janis_no1
03-21-2004, 10:34 PM
had to laugh...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

estranged4life
03-22-2004, 09:15 PM
from my source is that "<b>Yes</b>, There will be a live Fleetwood Mac DVD released through Warner's...The release date for the DVD however has yet to be finalized."

Brian j.

wetcamelfood
03-24-2004, 07:50 PM
The April issue of ICE magazine lists:

April 27th: Fleetwood Mac - Live PBS Special (DVD) Warner Brothers

I do consider ICE a good source but I doubt this will be the title, who knows though? We can hope it gets released then anyways. :)

John

hayley
03-25-2004, 08:48 AM
I can ALMOST guarantee that that date will not be sticking... the May 4 one is looking more likely, but- it's great to see that in print!

macko814
03-25-2004, 12:45 PM
The fan club did say that Soundstage would be aired in April of 2004. Do you think they were just wrong?

hayley
03-25-2004, 12:56 PM
I thought the now generally accepted airdate was June 17, or something more like that. It's not happening in April. PBS is tied up right now with Harry Connick and don't generally combine exclusive pop act promotions and specials in the same month.

Aside from that, here's a reposting of my previous post in this thread where I tried to explain as long-winded as possible why I don't think this release doesn't really have that much to do with PBS anyways.

_____________________________
I can't shed light on what's actually going to happen with these releases, only the generality of what happens with product similar to these in most cases.

Everyone's assuming too much about these being from the Soundstage special and associated with PBS. Just because this was filmed under the Soundstage banner doesn't mean they have the rights to distribute these videos unless the band signs off on it. Why let Soundstage and PBS distribute them when they can let Warners? I'm sure when they entered into their agreement with PBS and the concert was filmed, they knew that they would be retaining the rights to the special.

Soundstage is a relatively small potatoes show- they are by far one of the bigger acts to ever appear on the show, and their appearance was likely contingent on the fact they'd have control of the product, and would have the built-in promotion via PBS right there.

What I'm trying to say is- just because this footage is supposed to be used for a Soundstage special doesn't mean it will be EXCLUSIVE to Soundstage. It makes NO difference when PBS airs this, because FMac more than likely is in control of the DVD and audio product from the concert. The PBS airdates will have relatively little to do with when the disc will come out.

Having said that, I'm sure the 5/4 date will not stick. DVD product often gets shuffled around schedules due to production issues and relative non-importance. But this is a relatively large release, being Fleetwood Mac. Honestly, I would estimate it landing more like 5/25.

stefan
03-25-2004, 01:18 PM
Also I think It wouldn't be too clever to try to sell a concert DVD, when everyone could tape the concert before while airing on TV. The other way around seems more likely. The fans will buy the dvd then, unwilling to wait imo.

clooney
03-26-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Dar
Though I'm eagarly waiting for the Fleetwood Mac soundstage to come the one I really want is Lindsey's Chicago taping. I was there and it was simply breath taking to watch. Does anyone have a clue as to when we get this?


Darlene

You were there?! AWESOME! How did you find out about it? Was it highly publicized?

I wrote Soundstage and they responded that Lindsey's solo show would be aired sometime in the Spring. At the time it was too early to know which PBS stations would air it, but they suggested I check with my local PBS station in early Spring to see if they have scheduled it yet.

This is the first I have heard of the FM Soundstage show. Maybe PBS stations will air both concerts back-to-back sometime.

Chris L.

hayley
03-26-2004, 01:50 PM
Several Ledgies attended the show, myself included. When the taping was announced, the tickets for Lindsey's were available to the public until they ran out, and it was discussed quite a bit on the boards.

It was undoubtedly the coolest fan thing EVER. I really pray that they kept songs like "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind" in there. I'm worried they'll cut them for the generic FM ones.

shackin'up
03-27-2004, 04:18 PM
1. eyes of the world
2. peacekeeper
3. second hand news
4. say you will
5. rhiannon
6. never going back again
7. come
8. gypsy
9. someone's gonna change your mind (chicago)
10. landslide
11. say goodbye
12. WTWCT
13. beautiful child
14. gold dust woman
15. murrow (chicago)
16. red rover (chicago)
17. tusk
18. stand back
19. GYOW
20. goodbye baby

Okay, I was just fantasizing about a livedisk that would really be different from the dance.

and mixing some tracks from lindsey's chicago-taping into this, could be possible... or am I talking dogspoop?:laugh: