Non-Favorite Live Songs?

[wondergirl9847]

What songs do you not care for live?

My list:

Lindsey:

GYOW (I am about to get STONED for this one, but I just love the Rumours version SOO much. It's the same with Dreams...it's just PERFECTION there. I don't HATE it live, it's just eh for me. I prefer ISA or Come for a hard rocker.)

Peacekeeper (I love LB's solo version SOOO much and it's pretty eh live)

WTWCT (It's okay, but there are many other songs on SYW that I'd KILL to hear live)

Stevie:

Dreams (Read above. LOL)

Gypsy (Same thing, it's PERFECTION on Mirage...although, the lil acoustic version they did at AHI was a'ight.)

SYW (Don't care for it on the album, and hearing it live, eh. LOL)

Christine:

SYLM (It's never been a fave Christine song of mine, and back in the day, live, it was boring. *EXCEPTION* Dance version...GREATNESS)

YMLF (Eh. They don't do anything different from the Rumours version to make it great for me.)

Over My Head (Eh...I don't care for it on the White Album and live, it's not fun for me)

[skcin]

Gypsy & Dreams are pretty blah live compared to the album versions, IMO.

I'll likely be KILLED for this, but I tend to agree with Stevie that Sara doesn't do well live. On boots, it sounds either really dragging or the tempo is sped up too fast. That's not to say I wouldn't be excited if they did it on the next leg, if only cuz it's become such a rarity, but I'll take the demos or the (extended) album version any day.

Paula

[Mad4stevie]

I hate WTWCT. LB sounds off key to me at times and it never really seems to start off well. Brings back bad memories of that horrendous Today show appearance.

[ryan8472]

Lindsey:

-Monday Morning (Boring on the album, boring live.)

-Go Your Own Way (From the Rumours tour to the Mirage tour, it was awsome. Then, when Linds left, and then came back, it didn't sound the same. Now, the music and Stevie still sound great, but Lindsey's voice is shot on this song. Don't care for it anymore.)

-Tusk (Too many backround vocals on the current version. It was always cool though.)

Stevie:

-Dreams (Just give it up, Stevie. It was great, then it just got boring and overplayed.)

-Rhiannon (Still not bad, but she could never do it like on the White Album tour again.)

-Gypsy (I hate every live version of this song. It was only good on the album, IMO.)

Christine:

-Say You Love Me (I kind of liked the older live versions, even though they were only mediocre. But The Dance version killed the song for me. Sorry Chris.)

-Over My Head (The album version was good, but the live version always sounded a little too country to me.)

-Everywhere (It sounds bad live. Except for The Dance version. Otherwise, it doesn't sound right to my ears.)

[xdreamsunwindx]

Originally posted by skcin

I'll likely be KILLED for this, but I tend to agree with Stevie that Sara doesn't do well live. On boots, it sounds either really dragging or the tempo is sped up too fast.

I agree. I hate the way that Sara transfers to the stage; It just goes on and on... There is so much going on in the studio version that when it's done live, there is a lot missing that makes the song sound kind of empty. Now I have never liked this song anyways, but I'd take the studio version over the live versions any day.

As for the question...
Lindsey-

WTWCT. It's boring. Just... Incredibly boring. Lindsey's vocals are incredibly flat as well.
Peacekeeper. Sick of it. It does nothing for me live.

Christine-

Little Lies- Never cared for the live version. Mediocre compared to the studio version.
Over and Over- I never cared for her vocal on this. I've only heard the Live album version, so I'm not sure if all of the live versions sound alike, etc. The guitar solo at the end makes up for that, though :).

Stevie-

Dreams. No explanation needed.
Gypsy. The Dance and AHI versions are incredible, but other than that, this song is rather dull onstage.

[stefan]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847


WTWCT (It's okay, but there are many other songs on SYW that I'd KILL to hear live)

[B]

Pardon? That song easily was the best live translating song from the new tunes. I like the album version O.K. not more not less. It`s one of the less exciting ones I guess. But live it really rocked imo. In opposition to PK- I agree here. I think the album version and esp. the solo version is a great catchy tune and deservingly the first single. But somehow they can`t translate it well live- whatever the reason may be.

[EnchantedSLN]

Stevie - Dreams, Rhiannon, & Gypsy. From 1975-1983, yes. But these days they just seem lackluster. I wouldn't mind seeing them get dropped and replaced with other songs. I know that will never happen though, since those are the classics that the masses of casual fans expect to hear.

Lindsey - If we're not just talking about this tour, Save Me A Place. I love it on the album, but live performances ruin it for me. I tend to skip it on all the Tusk boots. I don't really care for WTWCT live, either.

[wondergirl9847]

We all seem to pretty much agree on the songs we don't care for.

Stefan, it's okay, but doesn't bowl me over. I'd much rather hear Red Rover and Murrow live!! :nod:

[UT-BABY]

Gypsy, Dreams, Rhiannon, and Say You Will. I like most of Lindsey's except for Peacekeeper....boring.

[skcin]

Almost forgot my Lindsey least faves live:

Peacekeeper (just never did anything for me.)

Say Goodbye (sounds too mumbled live, and casual fans can't hear what he's saying, therefore they miss the meaning, therefore DUMP IT & put something else new in - SYHA would be a safe choice, but I'd love to hear Rover.)

Not That Funny - I know many of you LOVE it, but I can't deal with LB deep-throating the mike & the yelping makes me litereally cringe - LITERALLY!

Paula

PS - Re: Chris - I don't like Little Lies on the 87/88 boots much either, but I love the album version.

[David]

Originally posted by EnchantedSLN
Stevie - Dreams, Rhiannon, & Gypsy. Those would probably be on my list, as well. "Rhiannon" would be, without a doubt.

I never need to hear "I Need to Know" again at a Stevie Nicks concert. Nor do I need to hear "Stop Dragging My Heart Around."

At Fleetwood shows, I don't like "Don't Stop" any more, but I sure loved it a long time ago when the blues in it was still discernible. And I'm tired of "Tusk."

I'm tired of so much, really! Perhaps I should stop here.

[cliffdweller]

Lindsey:
Peacekeeper---This one is starting to make me yawn everytime I hear it.

Bleed to Love Her---Never was really crazy about this one live or recorded.


Stevie:
Dreams---Okay, I love this song recorded, but it's getting a bit boring live.

Gypsy---this is another one that needs a little livinening up.

SYW---I like this song okay, it's just that I've heard it too much. Unfortunately, it's one of the only new songs by Stevie that they'll play live!

Christine:
The only songs I enjoy her singing live are "Say You Love Me," "You Make Loving Fun," and "Songbird." I would've loved to have heard her do "Brown Eyes," "Honey Hi," and "Think About Me" live at some point in my lifetime.

I would also love to hear Christine and Lindsey do "World Turning" together one last time.

Also:
Don't Stop---Could we run this into the ground a little more? I didn't think so, but it'll never leave the playlist...

[dissention]

Dreams- My favorite version was during the Dance tour and it needs to be retired.

Don't Stop- :rolleyes:

Gypsy- The song itself just doesn't hold up live at all. If they insist on doing it, they need to do it like at AHI 2000.

Rhiannon- Save your energy for a new song like EFO or RTTG. Rhiannon must be an old hag by now and she needs her rest.

The Chain- Yes, I'm a blasphemer. The chain is not together, so stop singing the damn song.

Peacekeeper- Yawn. The new back-up is the one who shines on this song.

Say You Will- It has not held up well.

GYOW- The band just goes through the motions on this song.

Over My Head- Oh lord, they butchered this one on The Dance.

Big Love- Yes, we all gawk at Lindsey during this song because he's just amazing, but put a fresh spin on it. Do a full band version.

Now, I love Gold Dust Woman and never would wish it to be gone from a setlist, but I wish they would tone down the theatrics on this one. Do it nice and simple like back in the day. Howl all you want and scream to your hearts content, but stop with the dramatic gestures and facial distortions and cheesy lighting.

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
We all seem to pretty much agree on the songs we don't care for.

Stefan, it's okay, but doesn't bowl me over. I'd much rather hear Red Rover and Murrow live!! :nod:

:nod:

[sodascouts]

"Peacekeeper" is a good song, but tempo-wise, it brings the show to a grinding halt. We all wait around for "Take no prisoners, only kill" to be over with so we can get back to rockin' again.

[cliffdweller]

Originally posted by dissention
Rhiannon- Save your energy for a new song like EFO or RTTG. Rhiannon must be an old hag by now and she needs her rest.

GYOW- The band just goes through the motions on this song.

Now, I love Gold Dust Woman and never would wish it to be gone from a setlist, but I wish they would tone down the theatrics on this one. Do it nice and simple like back in the day. Howl all you want and scream to your hearts content, but stop with the dramatic gestures and facial distortions and cheesy lighting.

Dissention,
I totally agree with you. All three of these songs could totally rock if they would just retool a few things. These are gems that need new life and energy. It's so sad to see good songs grow tired!

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally posted by dissention

The Chain- Yes, I'm a blasphemer. The chain is not together, so stop singing the damn song.



:laugh: :laugh: Too funny, though hearing Mick pound the drums to start the song gets me excited.


Lindsey:
Tusk - without the USC Marching Band, it sucks.
Peacekeeper - Yawn.

Stevie:
Dreams - Eh.
Rhiannon
Gypsy - (though if she puts in the "I still see your bright eyes," it can stay)

Christine:
Say You Love Me - ZZZZZZ
Little Lies - too much happening musically in the original version to do it justice live

[dissention]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
Dissention,
I totally agree with you. All three of these songs could totally rock if they would just retool a few things. These are gems that need new life and energy. It's so sad to see good songs grow tired!

Exactly! :nod:

It's as if the band thinsk they're putting on a Broadway show where everything has to be just right and the same thing every night. Can the dramatics and showy gestures; concentrate on puring your heart into these songs. And if you can't put any more of your heart into these songs because you've done them all to death, go back to your catalog and pick some new stuff to do!

[dissention]

Originally posted by GypsySorcerer
:laugh: :laugh: Too funny, though hearing Mick pound the drums to start the song gets me excited.

Little Lies - too much happening musically in the original version to do it justice live

Mick can keep the drum and segue it into Eyes of the World or something; just can The Chain!

Little Lies live? Ugh. Back when they were rehearsing in Hartford for the first night of The Dance, they worked on it and then they decided it stunk, so they dropped it. :laugh:

[EnchantedSLN]

Originally posted by David
I never need to hear "I Need to Know" again at a Stevie Nicks concert. Nor do I need to hear "Stop Dragging My Heart Around."


I forgot about Stevie's solo shows. I'm a sucker for I Need To Know, but I wish she'd axe SDMHA too. And get rid of the bongo & guitar solos at the beginning of Edge of Seventeen. Just go straight into the song!

[Lala]

Originally posted by skcin
Gypsy & Dreams are pretty blah live compared to the album versions, IMO.

I'll likely be KILLED for this, but I tend to agree with Stevie that Sara doesn't do well live. On boots, it sounds either really dragging or the tempo is sped up too fast. That's not to say I wouldn't be excited if they did it on the next leg, if only cuz it's become such a rarity, but I'll take the demos or the (extended) album version any day.

Paula

Well...I won't kill you...but I'll just say that I LOVE the song live, studio, demo...whatever. And I would die happy (I would anyways) if they added it to the next leg since I have friggin tickets (I'm more excited...not that you wouldn't be...than some of you FM vets because this will be my first FM concert!)...but we all know they won't since the song is so personal. You gotta love the soloing(sp?) that Lindsey does on the live version from the Tusk doc. It has that "it" factor about it.

Anyways....the only song I can think of that's bad live is Peacekeeper. Now I absolutely love this song...probably more than lots of you...but it just doesn't work live. Lindsey can't sing it and do his guitar stuff.

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by dissention
Little Lies live? Ugh. Back when they were rehearsing in Hartford for the first night of The Dance, they worked on it and then they decided it stunk, so they dropped it. :laugh:

Really??

I've always been curious about the choice of Everywhere as TITN's representative on The Dance. Was there an article about this or was it somehwere else? I'll have a look through the BLA.

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Really??

I've always been curious about the choice of Everywhere as TITN's representative on The Dance. Was there an article about this or was it somehwere else? I'll have a look through the BLA.

I get the Hartford Courant delivered and have the old article here somewhere, maybe I'll be able to dig it up. There was also one where a reporter asked Stevie whether she liked Hartford and she said she didn't know because she doesn't roam the streets of Hartford. :laugh:

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by dissention
There was also one where a reporter asked Stevie whether she liked Hartford and she said she didn't know because she doesn't roam the streets of Hartford. :laugh:

:laugh: I can just imagine how she would say that. It reminds me of what she said at the first Brisbane concert: "Welcome, everyone. We, um, don't really know any of you here in Brisbane, so..yeah. Thank you!" lol or something like that.

I'll have the video of that in digital form eventually. About 25 mins worth of that concert.

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
:laugh: I can just imagine how she would say that. It reminds me of what she said at the first Brisbane concert: "Welcome, everyone. We, um, don't really know any of you here in Brisbane, so..yeah. Thank you!" lol or something like that.

I'll have the video of that in digital form eventually. About 25 mins worth of that concert.

:laugh: She says some pretty kooky ****. :laugh:

And you can always reward me for admitting my love for Not Make Believe by giving me that video. :laugh:

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by dissention
And you can always reward me for admitting my love for Not Make Believe by giving me that video. :laugh:

Very well - you can get the video ......if you post this in your sig from now on! MuhahahA!!

<img src="http://members.iinet.net/~joegrealy/images/nmblove.JPG">


(j/k.... everyone will be able to see it when it's available!)

[face of glass]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
(j/k.... everyone will be able to see it when it's available!)

Joe, are you going to do it as Bit Torrent then? Then we’d all have to contribute by seeding it on.

To the main topic at hand.

Still having difficulties with all those PG era live releases. :rolleyes:

The only set, the Ultrasound Studios recording that I’ve heard of the Welch era line-up has no weak spots in it, IMO.

1975-82:

”Station Man” – Lindsey and Stevie may have improved it a bit but it’s still too plodding.

“Dreams” – I actually like it live but it’s always been a bit of a disappointment when compared to the studio take.

“Over And Over” – loses some of the good languid qualities of the studio version.

“Hold Me” – didn’t work back then but maybe now it could somehow with some extra musicians.

With Billy & Rick:

“Everywhere” – and even the original is the closest to housewife music FM has ever got to.

“The Chain”, “Isn’t It Midnight”, “Go Your Own Way” – sorry boys, but your parts sound uninvolved to me. They did do a killer “Don’t Let Me Down Again” though.

“World Turning” – from 1987 onwards. Any good playing in the song itself is ruined when Mick the DJ starts his innovative effect revolution. ;)

Post Post-Rumours: ;)

“Over My Head” – sounds totally inoffensive on the Dance.

“Gold Dust Woman” – I agree with Dissention on the theatrics. But if she wanted to do it like in the old days, wouldn’t she have to have a “headful of snow” again? ;)

“Gypsy” – I love the Mirage tour version, this one isn’t up to it.

“Peacekeeper” – in major agreement with the most. And I wasn’t too hot on the studio version in the first place.

[Mike B]

There aren't too many that I actually <i>dislike</i> live; most of them I'm just sick to death of hearing <i>every single time</i> they step foot on the stage. But that is another thread. ;)

From this tour, I agree with everyone about Peacekeeper. I love the studio version but it is lousy live. And I agree about Say You Will. Of all the Stevie songs on SYW, she has to play <i>that</i> as one of her 2 new contributions? Ugh. Bring back Destiny Rules!

I loathe anything that gives Mick the room to do his drum solo, so World Turning and Not That Funny come up on my hit list.

Rhiannon does need to be retired, but I'm going to sit by myself in the "Fan of Dreams Live" train. That song <i>is</i> Fleetwood Mac to me, and I love hearing it everytime. (Even though it has never lived up to the studio version and never will.)

Stevie solo? Good God, woman, get a new encore song other than I Need To Know! I also don't like Enchanted, but I don't really know why.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Stevie:

Gypsy. This song is boring live.

Dreams. She just seems like she is going through the motions on this one. It will never be dropped because it was their biggest hit.

Silver Springs. Sorry I am just sick of this song.

Stand Back. I am kind of mixed on this one. If it was dropped I would not cry.

I wish that she would bring back Sisters of the Moon!!

Lindsey:

Peacekeeper. Does nothing for me.

WTWCT. Not a live fave.

Say Goodbye. Goodbye!

I'd like to see a Lindsey solo song. Maybe Trouble or Holiday Road.

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Very well - you can get the video ......if you post this in your sig from now on! MuhahahA!!

<img src="http://members.iinet.net/~joegrealy/images/nmblove.JPG">


(j/k.... everyone will be able to see it when it's available!)

Consider it done. ;)

I need something fresh anyways. :D

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally posted by dissention
Consider it done. ;)

I need something fresh anyways. :D

:eek: :eek: :eek:

You're outstanding! :laugh:

But tell me... it doesn't..hurt your self esteem at all? Does it hurt your eveything? :laugh:

Oh wait - now I'm making fun of it. Whoops. :confused: :laugh:

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
:eek: :eek: :eek:

You're outstanding! :laugh:

But tell me... it doesn't..hurt your self esteem at all? Does it hurt your eveything? :laugh:

Oh wait - now I'm making fun of it. Whoops. :confused: :laugh:

:laugh:

The lyrics hurt my everythng just a bit. They seem to be stolen from the book of cliches by a thief in the night. I spied that right away.

Oh, we need a parody:

It isn't just that Joe is such a pain
Everywhere he posts now
That blasted song is here to stay
It once hurt my eardrums
It hurt my everything

It is growing (like a smelly fungus)
Ooh, now I've got it playing
Sometimes it sounded lousy
Sometimes it was too-ooh ****ty
But now it's listened to by me
Well, I wanted to claw my face

Then there are the things
That cast the hate away
The things that made me stay
And listen for so long
Was a ****ty song then
But it's not really ****ty now
I abhorred it then
But I adore it now

[David]

Originally posted by EnchantedSLN
Stevie - Dreams, Rhiannon, Gypsy, Sara, Gold Dust Woman, etc. From 1975-1983, she was pretty good. But these days she is lackluster. I wouldn't pay for a ticket to see her nowadays. The masses of casual fans still like her, though.

Lindsey - He's a mess, basically. His voice is shot, his songwriting is precious in the worst sense of the word, & his guitar playing is overrated. Plus, that shock of flea-ridden hair on his head looks like a Disneyland for the insect world. Come on, now! They're not that bad! Cut 'em some slack!

[EnchantedSLN]

Originally posted by David
Come on, now! They're not that bad! Cut 'em some slack!

My favorite Stevie Nicks song is "Friend From Yesterday", because it's so magical, mystical, and enchanting. I'm going to go put on my tophat and platform boots and twirl around my living room to it right now!~~~

David! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Sugar]

Originally posted by Lux
...although the energy is great, I'm no Stand Back fan.



Actually this reminds me...what is the deal with this staying in the FLEETWOOD MAC setlist? Was it almost a FM song or something? I could see it if Lindsey was still doing "Go Insane", but whay is this solo song in the group lineup? I know a lot of people dig this song but it always kind of bugs me when I hear that opening keyboard.

[estranged4life]

have been overplayed on the past 2 tours...And it's not hard to figure out which songs I'm talking about.

Brian j.

[diamondsnake]

Originally posted by dissention
tone down the theatrics

The theatrics? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

I love Dreams Live! I like Stevie's vocals on it nowadays! However, I wouldn't much care if they dropped Rhiannon- from the one concert I went to this tour, I can't even remember it, so it couldn't have been that hot.

The songs from this tour that can not leave the setlist are The Chain, Stand Back, Beautiful Child, Go Your Own Way, Tusk, Say You Will, and Goodbye Baby. Those are the songs I distinctly remember loving! It is all such a blurr now though.

[dissention]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
The theatrics? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Damn skippy.

the·at·rics - noun

(used with a pl. verb) Theatrical effects or mannerisms; histrionics.

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Very well - you can get the video ......if you post this in your sig from now on! MuhahahA!!


You know, it looks as if it says I eat Not Make Believe. I think I'd get a bad case of indigestion.

[dissention]

Originally posted by Lux
Can I eat Tusk....Lindsey's preferably.

It's only a garnish. ;)

[DownOnRodeo]

Sometimes it sounded lousy
Sometimes it was too-ooh ****ty
But now it's listened to by me
Well, I wanted to claw my face

Then there are the things
That cast the hate away
The things that made me stay
And listen for so long
Was a ****ty song then
But it's not really ****ty now
I abhorred it then
But I adore it now

:laugh:
Hmm, have we done a pariody about the parodies yet?

We make all of our spoofs the same
Everyone is suffering the lame jokes made

They all implode just the same
And there's no telling when we will get some shame

Parodies, take a line
Make it a bastard rhyme
Soon all the songs demise

Parodies, don't be shy
Don't be afraid to dive
Laughter's the sweet suprise

[dissention]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
:laugh:
Hmm, have we done a pariody about the parodies yet?

We make all of our spoofs the same
Everyone is suffering the lame jokes made

They all implode just the same
And there's no telling when we will get some shame

Parodies, take a line
Make it a bastard rhyme
Soon all the songs demise

Parodies, don't be shy
Don't be afraid to dive
Laughter's the sweet suprise

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You know all of our parodies suck
And they all center 'round that same black dress
But there's only one word we need
It's the one that rhymes with pipe...

[t.c.]

I hate to say, but I am so sick of Landslide. I used to really love it. But now I am sick of it. Also, Mick's drum solos. I get very bored with him patting himself. Maybe a cool funky, upbeat bongo/drum solo would be more fun, but I never enjoy his. I used to get bored during the whole Not That Funny and World Turning songs too. But for some reason, I seem to enjoy them more now. But really, hearing a lot of the same songs live again and again, makes me wish they'd add different ones here and there. Like Beautiful Child. I miss Sisters of the Moon. I loved them doing Second Hand News, but it's a little too fast! But cool to hear something new like that which we don't usually get to hear live.

[Gailh]

I am sick and tired of Mick's performance in World Turning!

The only good thing about it is that it gives you a chance to go for a wee.

Gail

[skcin]

Originally posted by Lux
And observe Lindsey when he's not under the spotlight.

I must be the only one who is in the pro-Mick camp.

On this board, you may be! I never minded his performances, i pretty much ignore it, but then I had a friend who sat front row & told me afterwards about how Mick's sweat was flying all over them - ICK!

Paula

[jwd]

I think the only ones that bored me on the SYW Tour were "Dreams" and "Gypsy". But hey folks every one needs pee break and beer run songs, so I'm really not complaining. :)


Joe

[Miranda]

I agree with most of the snoozers listed so far.

Not to change the direction of this thread, but...

I think the most refreshing part of the show is Never Going Back Again. It's a great version that stands up well with the original. I just love it when only the four of them are on stage without the backups. The best!

[blinker12]

Which ones am I sick of? All of them.
"Say You Will" is basically a reprise of the "Dance" set list: The old faves with a smattering of new stuff (and most of Christine's songs removed).
And frankly, the formula is tired as hell. I saw the show last year and was thoroughly disappointed with the lack of inspiration on view _ both in the performances and in the choice of songs. It was definitely NOT worth the ticket price.
They should do what Stevie did on the "Enchanted" tour and play a bunch of obscure songs. It's about time they catered to the hardcore fans rather than casual radio listeners.

[Miranda]

Originally posted by blinker12


And frankly, the formula is tired as hell. I saw the show last year and was thoroughly disappointed with the lack of inspiration on view _ both in the performances and in the choice of songs. It was definitely NOT worth the ticket price.


They should do what Stevie did on the "Enchanted" tour and play a bunch of obscure songs. It's about time they catered to the hardcore fans rather than casual radio listeners.

I agree, but it wouldn't make for good pensions if they did, so that'll never happen.

[cliffdweller]

iginally posted by face of glass [/i]
“Gold Dust Woman” – I agree with Dissention on the theatrics. But if she wanted to do it like in the old days, wouldn’t she have to have a “headful of snow” again? [/QUOTE]

:laugh: I hope not! I'd like to believe that Stevie could tear it up without the coke. That said, I think the major issue these days is age related. She's not a twenty/thirtysomething anymore so she doesn't have the energy to work the stage like she used to. She could still get a little more into it vocally though, I would love to see/hear her perform GDW like she did on The Dance video.

[macmar71]

Lindsey~~~Big Love-I guess it has really played itself out for me.
"World Turning"-I like the album version and never really cared for it live and minus Christine in the mix it is not the same.
Stevie~~"Dreams"-I guess this is another tune that just keeps getting played a lot and I want to hear more obscure stuff!
"Gypsy"~While I love the studio version, I always felt it didn't transfer well live.
Christine~~"Hold Me" I love this song so much but live it really did not take off, vocally it did not mesh well and the guitar work while layered in the studio version, it could not be done in the live setting.

[chiliD]

With the exception of "Go Your Own Way" & "Oh Well", they could dump all the songs prior to the Tusk album tunes and I'd be just fine. Of course, that means they'd have to start PLAYING "Oh Well" again.

[Hawkeye]

I would love to see/hear her perform GDW like she did on The Dance video.

I think she is, I actually think it's alot BETTER then the dance. The scream at the end is far better then the Dance scream. And the part where she calls Pale SHADOOOOW SHEEEE'S a DRAAAGON is great. I think Gold Dust Woman is the one song you can't accuse Stevie of not doing well anymore. I can "see" the beef with Rhiannon (although I don;t agree) but GDW is the best it's ever been. Same with Silver Springs. Stevie rocks both now.

[jmn3]

Originally posted by t.c.
I loved them doing Second Hand News, but it's a little too fast! But cool to hear something new like that which we don't usually get to hear live.

Eh, "Second Hand News" has been played to death along with all the others. They have played it A LOT, including as an encore on the Rumours tour, and the opening tune on Mirage. They brought it back at the second show in '97 and have played it ever since. Granted, it took a 15 year break...it's no GYOW, The Chain, or Don't Stop (even Rhiannon has had a few breaks over the years)...but I think it's pretty much overplayed.

Where are I Don't Want to Know, Crystal, SOTM, Angel, The Ledge, That's Alright, Seven Wonders, Blue Letter, oh...I could go on for hours.

[dissention]

If they really wanted to reward us, they could haul out and do "Green Manalishi," but that will never happen in a million years.

[dissention]

Originally posted by Hawkeye
I think she is, I actually think it's alot BETTER then the dance. The scream at the end is far better then the Dance scream. And the part where she calls Pale SHADOOOOW SHEEEE'S a DRAAAGON is great. I think Gold Dust Woman is the one song you can't accuse Stevie of not doing well anymore. I can "see" the beef with Rhiannon (although I don;t agree) but GDW is the best it's ever been. Same with Silver Springs. Stevie rocks both now.

I think the Dance version is far superior. There's just something about that one; it seemed a bit more raw and much more powerful. She kept herself restrained on some of the other songs, but she really threw caution to the wind with that one in '97. Unfortunately, byt the time Enchanted rolled around, it got a little rote and too "down pat." It was done a terrible injustice on the TISL tour, but I still enjoyed it somewhat, even though she really started with the theatrics. Now, it's performed as if it's the centerpiece of a Broadway show, even though the vocal is still outstanding. But I don't think it'll ever be as firey as it was in '97.

[sparky]

Originally posted by dissention
Now, it's performed as if it's the centerpiece of a Broadway show, even though the vocal is still outstanding.

I'll give you that Broadway reference - but for me it still works.
I am just thankful that she MOVES. Even if it is just a tragic pose.
Other than Stand Back and Beautiful Child, I didn't sense a complete vocal and physical commitment in the performance of the other songs in the set. She actually seems to be into those 3 songs. So, I am taking the scraps I am thrown.

[HomerMcvie]

If they really wanted to reward us, they could haul out and do "Green Manalishi," but that will never happen in a million years.
NOW you're talking!:nod:

[Janis_no1]

This email has to be quick but simply...

Gold Dust Woman- was really disappointing in that it ruins the song of my memory of the song, by the 3rd time id heard her try to put on a fake performance at the Aus2004 shows... it was actually sad to see.

I Absolutely love Beautiful child live- not greta to hear her say the exact same story word for word but sensastional to hear, her hoive fills the whole arena

Im not a fan of Im So Afraid- seems to drag a little to me, and Peacekeeper i agree with all of you that it has no place live!

Dreams i find boring, to me its a rather boring song although i love it, it is not a good song live, it just seems to always be there.

STAND BACK- i surprised to see how sensational it was live, especially in the sydney 2nd show, you can feel the energy from the audience and she takes it into this song i believe.

dont hurt me guys...

[dissention]

Originally posted by sparky
I'll give you that Broadway reference - but for me it still works.
I am just thankful that she MOVES. Even if it is just a tragic pose.
Other than Stand Back and Beautiful Child, I didn't sense a complete vocal and physical commitment in the performance of the other songs in the set. She actually seems to be into those 3 songs. So, I am taking the scraps I am thrown.

I agree. There really are only a few select songs that really get her going onstage these days. Say You Will certainly ain't one of 'em. ;) That suckers just as dull as Peacekeeper, if not more.

[Cristian]

"Rhiannon" just plain stinks in these live versions from bootlegs. Just forget about the damn song... the studio version will always be far superior anyway.

I don't like how "Peackeeper" or "Say You Will" translate to the live scene. I'd replace them with "Thrown Down", "Steal Your Heart Away" or "Running Through The Garden".

"Oh Well"... now THAT should be something like a rule: you CAN'T have a Fleetwood Mac concert without "Oh Well", it's like their signature song; they've always done it. They're losing some of their identity by not performing it.

Forget about "What's The World Coming To", too... and that acoustic "Big Love". Oh, and "Gypsy" is always better in the studio, thank you very much.

I'll stop here.



Song of the moment - Gold And Braid

[chiliD]

Originally posted by Cristian
"Oh Well"... now THAT should be something like a rule: you CAN'T have a Fleetwood Mac concert without "Oh Well", it's like their signature song; they've always done it. They're losing some of their identity by not performing it.


Can I get an AMEN? :blob2:

[ryan8472]

Originally posted by chiliD
Can I get an AMEN? :blob2:

AMEN! :D

[dissention]

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
NOW you're talking!:nod:

Yeah, well, with our luck, they'll trot that old bitch Mrs. Scarrot out on the stage. ;) :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by chiliD
Can I get an AMEN? :blob2:

Raising my hand to witness I say "AMEN Brother Chili"

Also, would it kill LB to play Albatross or Man of the World (my personal fav.) :shrug:

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by Janis_no1
, and Peacekeeper i agree with all of you that it has no place live!

Peacekeeper was made boring so Stevie could harmonize on it. The song in the original key and tempo was much more fun.

[Livia]

If they really wanted to reward us, they could haul out and do "Green Manalishi," but that will never happen in a million years.

HELL, YEAH!!

Here's what I'd like to see swapped out:

Drop Rhiannon for Destiny Rules
Drop Stand Back for EFO
Drop SYW for Thrown Down
Drop WTWCT for Miranda
Drop ISO for Murrow

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Peacekeeper was made boring so Stevie could harmonize on it. The song in the original key and tempo was much more fun. How do we know that changing "Peacekeeper" wasn't a decision Lindsey made, that had absolutely nothing to do with Stevie?

We all know how he works and works to perfect his songs... so he may not have been satisfied with the 'Gift Of Screws' version, and decided to re-work it.

If Lindsey so desired, they could very easily increase the tempo on-stage, and if he wanted to change the key, they could easily switch Stevie to the lower harmony.

We gotta get you past this "blame Stevie" mentality, buddy. :) :nod:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Livia
HELL, YEAH!!

Here's what I'd like to see swapped out:

Drop Rhiannon for Destiny Rules
Drop Stand Back for EFO
Drop SYW for Thrown Down
Drop WTWCT for Miranda
Drop ISO for Murrow

Trust me Murrow live in incredible@!!!!!

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
How do we know that changing "Peacekeeper" wasn't a decision Lindsey made, that had absolutely nothing to do with Stevie?

We all know how he works and works to perfect his songs... so he may not have been satisfied with the 'Gift Of Screws' version, and decided to re-work it.

If Lindsey so desired, they could very easily increase the tempo on-stage, and if he wanted to change the key, they could easily switch Stevie to the lower harmony.

We gotta get you past this "blame Stevie" mentality, buddy. :) :nod:

and might I add ( :cool: ) that LB sang the Fm version at his Soundstage thingee. He also went back to "only kill" after the single was released. So . . . .

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew

We gotta get you past this "blame Stevie" mentality, buddy. :) :nod:

But then, what would you do!? ;)

Besides, I didn't blame Stevie. My comment was silent as to who would have made the decision. You might be surprised to learn that I actually blame Lindsey for changing the song. I'm sure Stevie didn't go up to him and demand to harmonize on it and make him change keys.

Surprised? :)

[wondergirl9847]

Thanks Strand....I was doing so well in PATIENTLY waiting for LB's Soundstage too. :mad:

:lol:

:blob1::blob2::blob1::blob2:

COME ON WITH LB'S SOUNDSTAGE!!!

[strandinthewind]

Red Rover Red Rover - Oh - YOU WEREN'T THERE :laugh:

You were there in spririt my friend AND we have just a less than three months now (I think) until it comes out!!!!!!!!

[wondergirl9847]

I could KILL myself for not going!!

I am an idiot. :rolleyes:

LOL

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
I didn't blame Stevie. My comment was silent as to who would have made the decision. You might be surprised to learn that I actually blame Lindsey for changing the song. I'm sure Stevie didn't go up to him and demand to harmonize on it and make him change keys.

Surprised? :) I honestly didn't think you felt that she demanded it be changed, but when you say something like "'Peacekeeper' was made boring so Stevie could harmonize on it," it comes off as, "if you don't like 'Peacekeeper' now, blame it on them having to change it so Stevie could sing on it."

Whatever reason Lindsey changed it, it might not have anything to do with Stevie's presence (a possibility backed up by the fact that Lindsey played the song as-is for his solo 'Soundstage' appearance).

And hey, at least we still have the 'Gift Of Screws' version... so we have two approaches to the song, for the price of one! :D
Originally posted by CarneVaca
But then, what would you do!? ;)I'm sure you and I could find an awful lot of other things to talk about, beyond the Stevie & Lindsey debates. :) :nod:

[Mike B]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I could KILL myself for not going!!

I am an idiot. :rolleyes:

LOL

Me too, Christy! Not a week goes by that I don't think about everything he played for that show and how I should have just got on a plane and gone. It would have been expensive, but damn....Red Rover? Steal Your Heart Away? DOWN ON RODEO?! What was I thinking??? :distress: Waaa!

Where's my time machine? :laugh:

[wondergirl9847]

Originally posted by Mike B
Where's my time machine? :laugh:

If you ever find one, we are going to that show first thing!!!! LOL

After that, every single OOTC show and FM show!!

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I'm sure you and I could find an awful lot of other things to talk about, beyond the Stevie & Lindsey debates. :) :nod:

Yeah, but then we'd be agreeing. :eek: :laugh: