Cheney out, Giuliani in?

[GypsySorcerer]

According to this article on MSNBC, Cheney will not be picked as Bush's running mate, and Rudy Giuliani is the top choice to replace him. It's in "entertainment section," so who knows if it's even true. I personally wish Rudy would run for President in '08, with Sen. Olympia Snowe as his running mate. :)

Here's the link:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4065772/ (http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4065772/)

[Josh2003]

Ahhh...I LOVE Olympia.

I'm a democrat, but I love the woman. I don't think she would be a good pick for VP, though...she's VERY moderate, and I don't think that a lot of Republicans like her because of that. Not saying that there is anything wrong with being moderate, but Olympia votes with the democrats on a lot of the republicans' big issues. For example, she voted "Not guilty" on both counts of Clinton's impeachment, and she was a very big critic of Bush's latest tax cuts.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally posted by Josh2003
Ahhh...I LOVE Olympia.

I'm a democrat, but I love the woman. I don't think she would be a good pick for VP, though...she's VERY moderate, and I don't think that a lot of Republicans like her because of that. Not saying that there is anything wrong with being moderate, but Olympia votes with the democrats on a lot of the republicans' big issues. For example, she voted "Not guilty" on both counts of Clinton's impeachment, and she was a very big critic of Bush's latest tax cuts.

I love Olympia because she is a moderate. :) I've said it before, the Republican party needs more like her.

[darklinensuit]

No offense to anyone, but I think Rudy would be a fool to tie himself to the Bush wagon at this point.
Maybe Cheney should hitch himself to Rudy instead.

- Jake

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
No offense to anyone, but I think Rudy would be a fool to tie himself to the Bush wagon at this point.
Maybe Cheney should hitch himself to Rudy instead.



I agree. I would prefer to see him run in 2008. (Rudy v. Hillary all over again?)

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by GypsySorcerer
I love Olympia because she is a moderate. :) I've said it before, the Republican party needs more like her.

I think a great deal of Republican voters are moderate and I believe several Republican politicians are too...the old ideas of the Republican party are so solid in place that no one has really tried to change anything about it. I often wonder if politicians actually believe in everything their party stands for...I don't think they do...but they'd be foolish to go against it.

I'd like to see Rudy run in 08' :nod:

[strandinthewind]

G certainly would help the R's get the NY vote, which almost certainly will go to the D's.

I do not think C is going anywhere though.

[Merf]

Cheney is a liability at this point.

Any replacement would be an improvement for Dubya's chances at a 2nd term.

[dissention]

Originally posted by GypsySorcerer
According to this article on MSNBC, Cheney will not be picked as Bush's running mate, and Rudy Giuliani is the top choice to replace him. It's in "entertainment section," so who knows if it's even true. I personally wish Rudy would run for President in '08, with Sen. Olympia Snowe as his running mate. :)

Here's the link:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4065772/ (http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4065772/)

Sheebus. :rolleyes: :(

I think I'm the only person in America to absolutely *despise* Giuliani.

If Giuliani is allowed anywhere near the White House, we should all be afraid. Very afraid. And if he runs in '08, the last shred of decency that we have left after Bush (which isn't much) will go out the window.

Thanks for the scare.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally posted by dissention
Sheebus. :rolleyes: :(

I think I'm the only person in America to absolutely *despise* Giuliani.



I doubt anything comes of it.

But may I ask why you don't like him? Many of my Dem friends say Giuliani is the only Republican they actually like. :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by GypsySorcerer
I doubt anything comes of it.

But may I ask why you don't like him? Many of my Dem friends say Giuliani is the only Republican they actually like. :laugh:

Speaking for myself only, I had issues with his "this is art and not that" stance while he was mayor. In that bruhaha, G attempted to cut off funding for museams that displayed art he did not like and/or understand, like African Art of the Virgin Mary made with feces. Here is an article on it http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p2648.htm (note - I know nothing else about this site). I personally had no feelings one way or the other about it, but do recognize it is censorship, etc.

Then, there was the NY police shooting of Amadou Diallo, a black male, about 41 times when all he was trying to do was pull out his wallet to show ID. A panel cleared the officers of any intentional wrongdoing. Personally, I think this was a horrible accident. I think the police made a mistake as human beings do. But, many saw this as the end result of racial profiling in that if a white guy had pulled out his wallet, he would not have been shot ot at least not have been shot 41 times.

Here is a CNN article about it

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/02/25/diallo.reax/

Fonally, when RG cleaned up Times Square from the sleazy XXX/prostitution scene it was when he came into office. Many people thought RDG trampled on the civil rights of the XXX stores, the prostitutes, and the vagrants that were there. I think he did the right thing, because it turned the New York scene around and lowered the crime rate. Here is an article: http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_4_the_unexpected.html and another
http://townnews.atevo.com/guides/focus/item/0,3721,3452,00.html

These events all occured prior to 9/11. I think after 9/11, many many people saw the foregoing as trivial compared to RG's actions on 9/11 and after.

I hope that helps.

[dissention]

Everything you said, Jason. :nod: :nod: :nod:

Also, his constant persecution and disdain for the homeless in NYC was offensive. He also sprayed the enitre city with poison gas because he claimed mosquitos were infected with encephalitis, even though not one mosquito was found to be. He evicted tons of vendors in Chinatown in order to bulldoze the area; it was a police raid.

And I believe that Giuliani himself is responsible for the death of Diallo.

[gldstwmn]

Not happening. No president has ever dumped his VP in the middle of his term. If Bush dumps Cheney, it's suicide for him.

[GypsySorcerer]

Thanks for answering, folks, and obliging my curiousity. :wavey:

[DeeGeMe]

I think that what certain Republican insiders are trying to do is to get Cheney to willingly step down and remove himself from the race. The Halliburton albatross around his neck is becoming quite a weight on the B-C 2004 ticket. And about damn time!

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by DeeGeMe
I think that what certain Republican insiders are trying to do is to get Cheney to willingly step down and remove himself from the race. The Halliburton albatross around his neck is becoming quite a weight on the B-C 2004 ticket. And about damn time!

Agreed. Anyway they slice it, if Cheney stays or goes, is a quagmire for them.

[Rob67]

Originally posted by dissention
Sheebus. :rolleyes: :(

I think I'm the only person in America to absolutely *despise* Giuliani.


You're probably right!!:D :wavey:

Rob:cool: