Stevie and Prince

[trackaghost]

The mention of the song Thousand Days made me think of this.
I have a couple of questions about Stevie and Prince and I hope someone can help (sorry if this subject has been raised before).

Firstly, there's a demo floating around called All Over You allegedly by Stevie and Prince. Is this for real? Does anyone know? sometimes I think it's authentic other times I don't know.

Also I've heard the song Thousand Days is about Prince. Is that true? I remember the little bits she said about Prince in VH1's Storytellers and in that Spin interview with Courtney Love, but often what Stevie says doesn't make sense! :)
Were they friends and what exactly happened?! I know she was at the Purple Rain premiere because I've seen pictures of her attending (in an awful white dress!).

Very curious about this!

Thanks in advance guys and I hope you can help!

:wavey:

[dissention]

Even Prince fans doubt that All Over You is a Prince song, doll. :nod: ;) And I can't imagine Stevie being a part in recording that.

Thousand Days is allegedly about Prince. Apparently, he got rather mad when Stevie asked for cough medicine and replied "I'm not here to get you hooked on another drug!" :laugh: One of the factors that broke up their friendship was her refusal to go out on a date with him. She was rather bitchy and mean when talking about Prince in '94 on the Mark & Brian show. I felt for the guy after she trashed him so badly and made fun of him.

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by trackaghost
The mention of the song Thousand Days made me think of this.
I have a couple of questions about Stevie and Prince and I hope someone can help (sorry if this subject has been raised before).

Firstly, there's a demo floating around called All Over You allegedly by Stevie and Prince. Is this for real? Does anyone know? sometimes I think it's authentic other times I don't know.

Also I've heard the song Thousand Days is about Prince. Is that true? I remember the little bits she said about Prince in VH1's Storytellers and in that Spin interview with Courtney Love, but often what Stevie says doesn't make sense! :)
Were they friends and what exactly happened?! I know she was at the Purple Rain premiere because I've seen pictures of her attending (in an awful white dress!).

Very curious about this!

Thanks in advance guys and I hope you can help!

:wavey:

About ten years ago in an interview she said that he had asked her why she walked out of Purple Rain, and she had replied that it popped her brain when his character hit Appolonia's. This comment hurt Prince's feelings, apparently, so they stopped talking for a long time.

- Jake

[joe]

Originally posted by trackaghost
Can you tell me what she said exactly Dissention, as I've never heard that interview.

thanks!

yeah, i'd love to hear it too.

[gldstwmn]

I remember some of the Mark and Brian interview. She said Prince came to a Fleetwood mac show in Minneapolis and they went off to his house together, he in his little purple velvet outfit and purple Trans Am. They were going about 120 mph down the freeway and she said to him "If we get pulled over, we're dead." I get the impression she might have had a little weed on her. They got back to his house and she fell asleep on the kitchen floor because it was the only cool place in the house. She said nothing ever happened between them becasue he was too weird. She woke up the next morning and said that she almost missed her plane.

[strandinthewind]

from

Details
August 1994
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Stevie Nicks
Would you stay if she promised you heaven
by Lance Loud


Details: Really? What about you and Prince?

Stevie Nicks: Let me state this here and now: We did not have a sexual relationship--I did not let that happen.

Details: How did you meet?

Stevie Nicks: When we were recording "Stand Back" I decided to be really blatant and call Prince up and tell him that I had been inspired to write the song while listening to "Little Red Corvette." I told him that I figured my song was half his. He came over to the studio where I was recording and listened to it--as I turned extremely white and started to shake. Then he walked over to the piano and put on a really incredible keyboard track. And not only did Prince make it up right on the spot, he played it with only two fingers. Then he left.

Details: Did you see him again?

Stevie Nicks: Yes, when I was on the road a year or so later. I was sick, and Prince brought some cough syrup up to my hotel room. He was sweet--he walked around the room folding things, fluffing pillows, tidying up in general. Then he gave me a spoon of it himself. But when I asked for another spoonful he changed--he said, "I didn't come all the way up here just to get you hooked on another substance!" Then he left.

Details: Do you still see him?

Stevie Nicks: No. I was at the premiere of Purple Rain, and in the scene where he slaps Apollonia I freaked and had to go sit in the bathroom. Afterward I went back to see him, and when he asked why I'd left, I had to tell him, "When you popped Apollonia, it kinda popped my brain." He looked at me like it just killed him. We've never spoken since. (sighs) It’s a shame, really...we were alike in so many ways.

Details: Such as?

Stevie Nicks: Well, for one thing, we both liked wearing black chiffon around the house.

________________________________________

From

Q104.3 Radio in New York - Interview
May 7, 2001
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This is a transcription of the interview with Stevie on Q104.3 Radio in New York on May 7, 2001 with host Bob Buchmann.


. . .

Bob: It's 7:15 in the morning, and Stevie Nicks, right there, and after that, Jimi Hendrix and Purple Haze. We . . . Stevie Nicks, our very special guest this morning . . . we were just talking in the studio about The Purple One, which the Hendrix kind of brought on and . . . you know, Prince still these days in the news.

Stevie: You wanna hear a story about Prince? One time we played New York and he came and picked me up . . . he wanted to take me out to his house. Of course none of my people wanted to just let me go. Nine-thirty in the morning. We get in Prince's purple car. He was in his purple clothes too. Swear to God. I had halfway gotten out of my stage clothes, but I still had the skirt on, and tennis shoes . . . I get in his car, and we're, I kid you not, in Minnesota. We went down the freeway at 150 miles an hour. And I am, like, "We're gonna get pulled over. This is gonna look so bad. We're gonna get pulled over, Prince. We're going 150 miles an hour." So I went out and spent the day at his purple house. We kind of played around with a song for a little while, in his recording studio a little bit, and then he took me back to be at the Fleetwood Mac plane at, like, three o'clock in the afternoon. I made it back on time to take off and go to the next gig. But I swore we were gonna be pulled over. And how are we gonna . . . looking like we look . . . how are we going to get out of this one? What are we gonna say? We were, you know, we were just casually cruising out to your house, you know . . . at 150 miles an hour. Prince, we're gonna go to jail, both of us. He didn't care. He kept going.

[Mad4stevie]

I think Stevie mentioned the whole "Stand Back" incident on her Storytellers show. She didn't seem bitter about working with him, at that point.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by trackaghost
Firstly, there's a demo floating around called All Over You allegedly by Stevie and Prince. Is this for real? Does anyone know? sometimes I think it's authentic other times I don't know.I do not, for one minute, think this is authentic... and I never have.

[ricohv]

Personally, I think it is. It sounds just like her (to me) and I think she would record something like that, besides it was just a demo that she probably thought noone would ever hear. Now if it were Sugar Walls or Wendy, well I'd be a little shocked.
Also, do you ever read her quotes and just kind if wince? The scene "kind of popped her brain"? I think too many years of substance abuse may have been the more likely cause. I mean, I beleive her to be intelligent and literate, but asometimes the way she expresses herself in interviews makes her sound like such a ding-dong! A sweet and loveable one of course!
Ricoh

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by ricohv
Also, do you ever read her quotes and just kind if wince? The scene "kind of popped her brain"? I think too many years of substance abuse may have been the more likely cause. I mean, I beleive her to be intelligent and literate, but asometimes the way she expresses herself in interviews makes her sound like such a ding-dong! A sweet and loveable one of course!I think the fact that Stevie often peppers her conversations with "hippie-isms," is why she sometimes comes off sounding flaky in interviews, despite her obvious intelligence.

[dissention]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I think the fact that Stevie often peppers her conversations with "hippie-isms," is why she sometimes comes off sounding flaky in interviews, despite her obvious intelligence.

I think her little Stevie-isms just make her sound more down-to-earth and relatable, personally. I pepper my conversations the same way; it adds much flavor. :D

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I think the fact that Stevie often peppers her conversations with "hippie-isms," is why she sometimes comes off sounding flaky in interviews, despite her obvious intelligence.

I love that quote about being approached by Hollywood types, but being too much of a hippie to do that side of Hollywood.
Cheers to the woman who one time was part of Janis J.'s opening act!

- Jake

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by trackaghost
What makes you think it's not authentic Johnny? It's doesn't sound enough like Stevie to convince me.

To my ears, it sounds like someone whose voice bears a passing resemblence to Stevie's, and that's the extent of it.

Plus, the discussion at the beginning seems contrived:

1st male voice: "Now why don't you sing on this?"

2nd male voice: "Oh, that'd be great!"

Female voice: "OK!"

1st male voice: "We want a girl's sound on this."

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by dissention
I think her little Stevie-isms just make her sound more down-to-earth and relatable, personally. I pepper my conversations the same way; it adds much flavor. :D Oh, trust me, I love them too (as if you really had any doubt).
I just tend to think it's one of the reasons why she's written off as a bit of a ditz, when to those of us who follow her, it's obvious that she's very intelligent.

And I agree, it does make her seem more down-to-earth. She's always seemed like the most friendly and approachable Maccer, despite the "fairy princess" aspect of her image.

[SpyNote]

I've only heard the song being about Prince through fans' interpretations, not from anything Stevie specifically said about the song. Was there an interview where she actually revealed the inspiration for writing Thousand Days? Was Prince actually the "greatest love" that became the "greatest pain"? I always thought this song was another chapter about Joe Walsh. He seemed like one volatile dude.

[dissention]

Originally posted by SpyNote
I always thought this song was another chapter about Joe Walsh. He seemed like one volatile dude.

You'd be volatile, too, if you had his looks! :eek: j/k

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by SpyNote
I've only heard the song being about Prince through fans' interpretations, not from anything Stevie specifically said about the song. Was there an interview where she actually revealed the inspiration for writing Thousand Days? Was Prince actually the "greatest love" that became the "greatest pain"? I always thought this song was another chapter about Joe Walsh. He seemed like one volatile dude. Hi Daniel....

This quote is from a terrific Billboard piece on Stevie's 'Enchanted' boxed-set, written by Timothy White, and published in the April 18th, 1998 issue: "'Thousand Days' was written about my non-relationship with Prince," says Nicks, who had earlier composed "Stand Back" with him - although she notes he's never called her back "to set up his payment on 50%" of the latter. "Days" recounts an abortive, all-night '80s recording session with him at his Minneapolis home during a Fleetwood Mac tour, climaxing with Nicks "smoking my pot - he didn't agree with my lifestyle - and going to sleep on Prince's floor in his kitchen. I like him, but we were just so different there was no possible meeting ground."I assume though... in typical Stevie fashion... that the song isn't entirely about Prince. We all know she has a habit of weaving more than one experience into a single song! :)

[sparky]

Originally posted by ricohv
The scene "kind of popped her brain"? I think too many years of substance abuse may have been the more likely cause. I mean, I beleive her to be intelligent and literate, but asometimes the way she expresses herself in interviews makes her sound like such a ding-dong! A sweet and loveable one of course!
Ricoh

Hmmm...I think this is actually a funny and verbally sophisticated response. To use the word "popped" twice like that is a great reinforcer of the point. It is the same as saying "When you punched her, it punched me in the guts." Basically, that "pop" wasn't working for me - blew the whole movie.

I like her use of language, and though sometimes lyrical things have made me turn my head like the RCA Victor dog, her quotes come off as completely genuine and clear. I get them ! Helps a lot to hear them though, too.

[SpyNote]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Hi Daniel....

This quote is from a terrific Billboard piece on Stevie's 'Enchanted' boxed-set, written by Timothy White, and published in the April 18th, 1998 issue:I assume though... in typical Stevie fashion... that the song isn't entirely about Prince. We all know she has a habit of weaving more than one experience into a single song! :)

I assume though... in typical Stevie fashion... that the song isn't entirely about Prince. We all know she has a habit of weaving more than one experience into a single song!

Ah... Thanks for posting that, Johnny. Yeah, I get the feeling that only the first part of the song is about him. The part from "Well, I can see the trouble" and on seems to be about something else completely. Once again, she keeps us guessing!

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I think the fact that Stevie often peppers her conversations with "hippie-isms," is why she sometimes comes off sounding flaky in interviews, despite her obvious intelligence. ITA AND she often does not speak in complete sentences and/or refers to something previously discussed when the topic has moved on. All of these things work in a live conversation setting, but when put into prose, they make her sound a little ditzy - but that is our Stevie!!!

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by SpyNote
Ah... Thanks for posting that, Johnny. Yeah, I get the feeling that only the first part of the song is about him. The part from "Well, I can see the trouble" and on seems to be about something else completely. Once again, she keeps us guessing!

I agree that as usual the song is about more than one thing, but I take the I can see the trouble line to be a reference to Prince, as in, I can see the trouble if I were to let anything happen between us.

- Jake

[SpyNote]

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I agree that as usual the song is about more than one thing, but I take the I can see the trouble line to be a reference to Prince, as in, I can see the trouble if I were to let anything happen between us.

- Jake

I wonder if Whole Lotta Trouble is about Prince, too. Obviously, the two songs share similar themes and lyrics. She doesn't even hint at this in the Timespace liner notes, but rather focuses on the actual recording of the track with Mike Campbell (after playing with Petty and Dylan in Aus) as her inspiration.

[sulamith]

Wasn't there something else to this story about Prince's air conditioning being broken, and the only cool place Stevie could find to lie down was on the kitchen floor?

Also, she said that Prince came to pick her up after her show in his purple car, and she was still wearing her stage clothes....... I recall hearing her say that he flew down the road at 100 miles per hour and that if they were pulled over nobody would believe they were from this planet.

She also said that Prince would call her on the phone alot and he didn't like all the people that were always around her.

Is this right?

I really think the first verse of TD is referring to Prince, the part about him dragging her up the stairs and all, but then I am also sure it digresses into other people. I think in referecne to the phone calls, I am pretty sure "Oooh such words to her over the phone... just how many people are there with you now?" is something he said to her when attempting to have a "private" conversation with her. Wouldn't you just love to know what they did talk about? hee hee!

I think WLT is mostly about Lindsey leaving the band.

Prince also has a similar lyric in his song I Would Die 4 U. He says, "You're not my lover, You're not my friend, and this is something that you'll never comprehend". It's very similar to Stevie's "Well you're not my love, you're not my friend, and this something that we really don't discuss".

Maybe they did influence each other a bit.

Quiet now, songbird.

-Sharon

[darklinensuit]

Originally posted by sulamith
Prince also has a similar lyric in his song I Would Die 4 U. He says, "You're not my lover, You're not my friend, and this is something that you'll never comprehend". It's very similar to Stevie's "Well you're not my love, you're not my friend, and this something that we really don't discuss".

Maybe they did influence each other a bit.

Quiet now, songbird.

-Sharon

I agree, that doesn't look coincidental.
And this is more of a stretch, but I suppose her Sometimes I hear you crying line could be a reference to when doves cry.

- Jake

[SpyNote]

What's everyone's take on the whole Time/Life edition chant? That's my favorite part of the song, I'm curious to read what people think it's about and how it ties in with the rest of the song.

[gypsysara]

Interesting interviews posted.

Ive seen that photo of Stevie @ the Purple Rain premier. Her dress was horrid, LOL!

[ricohv]

*I knew when I said she sounded ditzy with the "it popped my brain" comment I would face some defensiveness! I do agree that she talks in this "stream of consciousness" sort of way that definately makes more sense if you are watching her. It also makes a whole lot more sense if she is not high. Yes, she is clever and often very cute when talking her talk. If you would read the dialogue of her on the Letterman show it wouldn't like much-when you see her, sort of shy, sort of nervous, sort of coy, it is definately endearing. Unfortunately the whole world does not want to understand the artistry that our lady speaks with creative licence to the English language and all that is practical. And I rare occasion I side with them. "He popped her face and that popped my brain" doesn't sound verbally sophisticated to me (like so many of her other quotes), it just sounds weird! For some reason Stevie saying "brain" there sounds ackward, like how hearing her sing "chimpanzee" in Jane just felt weird. It wouldn't seem as ackward if she said something like "when he popped her in the head it popped me in my head". But really, it was just a thought, no big deal.
ENOUGH WITH THE BASH:
*I agree that the dress she wore to the Purple Rain premeire was the ugliest thing I have ever seen her in-if she was gonna wear Minnie Pearls' dress she should've at least wore the hat with the price tag so we'd at least get the joke!
OOPS, ENOUGH WITH THE BASH, PT.II:
In regards to the Time/Life edition thing: I think Joe Walsh was "the greatest love that became the greatest pain" and I think the Time/Life edition thing is a reference to him. I'm guessing that because he is thanked at the end of the poem on the back of RAL: And I like some kind of Time/Life edition.....
It's not an obvious reference, but you know how Stevie makes "a connection" of two things in her world and then over the years will continue to connect them *(e.g. nightbird and death, Stand Back and black shawl with silver squares). If not Joe then perhaps herself, since she has already stated that she is "like some kind of Time/Life edition".
Now that I think about it I can't really remember how that reference is made in Thousand Days as I never listen to it, considering it is hands down my least favorite Stevie song of all time!
However I did have that hunch about the Time/Life thing, but I don't have a hunch as to how she would blend Joe Walsh into her song about Prince, unless her underlying theme was "homely guys that lust for me". Nope, that's not it, there's no "great dark wing" in the song.....
Ricoh

[golden braid]

Originally posted by gypsysara

Ive seen that photo of Stevie @ the Purple Rain premier. Her dress was horrid, LOL!

Do you have a picture? I would love to see it. :)

[David]

Originally posted by sulamith
Also, she said that Prince came to pick her up after her show in his purple car, and she was still wearing her stage clothes....... I recall hearing her say that he flew down the road at 100 miles per hour and that if they were pulled over nobody would believe they were from this planet. Yep, that's what she told Mark & Brian in 1994. They would have had to be doing 120 to 150 mph at least to be able to get from New York (where Fleetwood Mac was performing) to Minneapolis, Minnesota (where Prince lived) & back again.

something about that silly story just doesn't ring true -- it doesn't seem possible. I bet that if you asked Prince to sum up what happened that day, you'd get a wholly different answer.

[dissention]

Originally posted by David
something about that silly story just doesn't ring true -- it doesn't seem possible. I bet that if you asked Prince to sum up what happened that day, you'd get a wholly different answer.

A lot of her stories seem bogus, IMO. Especially that one. You're absolutely right; it's pretty much impossible to get from NY to Minneapolis in that stretch of time. And Stevie doesn't strike me as a gal that would actually lay down on a bare kitchen floor, but that's just me. ;)

[ricohv]

She was probably so high she didn't notice it was a purple Lear jet that picked her up, not a purple car! She doesn't strike me so much as a liar as somehow who just doesn't bother keeping track of the little details!
Ricoh

[dissention]

Originally posted by ricohv
She was probably so high she didn't notice it was a purple Lear jet that picked her up, not a purple car! She doesn't strike me so much as a liar as somehow who just doesn't bother keeping track of the little details!
Ricoh

:laugh:

[sulamith]

Yes, but I thought they were playing locally, like Minneapolis or where ever it is he lives. Who said they were playing New York when that happened? What did I miss?

Anyway, as to the Time/Life Edition question, I interpret that to mean that she was worried about or feeling she was becoming a "nostaligia" act, an artist whose work people collect in those compilation packages, often put out by companies such as Time?Life in a special "edition".

????

I dunno. That's what it always felt like to me. I think her Prince story is a bit over the top, but I certainly don't think it is a total fabrication.

-Sharon

[Bella Figura]

personally I can't tell one story without changing or embellishing it a bit, can you imagine being a celebrity doing tons of interview, answering the same questions over and over for years??!! :cool:

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by Bella Figura
personally I can't tell one story without changing or embellishing it a bit, can you imagine being a celebrity doing tons of interview, answering the same questions over and over for years??!! :cool: You could, if you just gave the same rehearsed speeches, over and over! :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
You could, if you just gave the same rehearsed speeches, over and over! :laugh: You are so bad :laugh:

About that dress posted above - IT WAS THE 80's!!!! :laugh: Also, how cool is it she was so thin she could wear layers like that!!!! :cool:

[sulamith]

I think that dress is very 80's chic. It looks like it was very well made. She was to wear much worse later on, you know......

I think the outfit I saw her in around the Tabgo era was the worst for me. It was this black, kinda straight dress with shirring up the front and some kind of big gold, glittery motif going down one side. THAT was the most un-Stevie thing I have ever seen her wear.

She was really thin in it, though.

Anybody got a picture of that or know what I am talking about?

-Sharon

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sulamith
I think that dress is very 80's chic. It looks like it was very well made. She was to wear much worse later on, you know......

I think the outfit I saw her in around the Tabgo era was the worst for me. It was this black, kinda straight dress with shirring up the front and some kind of big gold, glittery motif going down one side. THAT was the most un-Stevie thing I have ever seen her wear.

She was really thin in it, though.

Anybody got a picture of that or know what I am talking about?

-Sharon

I know - she wore that 80's prom dress thing to the MTV awards when she and CM presented!!!!

[Livia]

I think the outfit I saw her in around the Tabgo era was the worst for me. It was this black, kinda straight dress with shirring up the front and some kind of big gold, glittery motif going down one side. THAT was the most un-Stevie thing I have ever seen her wear.

There's a pic of someone ELSE wearing the same dress in the Tango tourbook - Stevie's makeup girl. I like that dress!

Just saw this on ebay:

Dress (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3654638360&category=208)

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Livia
There's a pic of someone ELSE wearing the same dress in the Tango tourbook - Stevie's makeup girl. I like that dress!

Just saw this on ebay:

Dress (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3654638360&category=208)

The hair on the other hand :eek: :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
The hair on the other hand :eek: :laugh:

Wasn't that the wig era?

[Ghosty]

Oh man....I thought she looked really pretty at the Purple Rain premiere. I must be an 80's girl! [gag!] heh!

Here is a quote I have from a magazine article from Allure 1995:



"Neither Prince nor I is shy to tell the world that we love beautiful things, beautiful fabrics. We can afford to buy them, and we do. He once picked me up at the Minneapolis airport at 9:30 in the morning, and we went to his purple house and recorded a song. He was driving around 120 miles an hour in his purple car, with me in my black chiffon stage clothes, him in his purple suit, purple car. We were going so over the speed limit that I said, "If we get pulled over, we're dead. Because you and I don't look like we're from this planet."

I have also heard often that Prince did always like to speed.

????

Somewhere I have another mention of the Prince thing, and she mentions how long it actually took to get to his house, and how absurdly fast it was. But I can't remember where I heard her say that - on a video clip, or some other article or book I have...???

I do see where she sometimes says one story for one thing (like what a song is about, or some event or situation or whatever), and then I hear her say something completely different. She might just get things confused sometimes. It will happen to all of us as we get into our 40's and 50's! lol! And in her case, she was high for a lot of it. I amsure things just get melted in to other situations. We all sometimes do that. Start to say something and then start correcting ourselves or asking ourselves questions outloud, right while we are telling the story to someone. "It was at Cindy's wedding reception, I remember it like it was yesterday, it was so funny. I was wearing that black dress with the ribbon-y v-neck, and it was so much fun...wait a minute, or did I wear that at New Year's? Or was this whole situation from New Year's...not the wedding....? Damn, I forget....Well anyways, whenever it was, this is what happened, it was a riot, you should have been there...."