My Oberhausen experience

[The Catdancer]

I had read in almost every review that the show started at 8:15, 8:20 so we were at the venue at 19:45. We thought we had enough time to look around and stuff. NOT!!!! As soon as we took our seats, the lights went out. It was 8:03!!!!! We were just in time. Even though we had the most expensive seats in the house, they were crappy. We could hardly see them. But we were close to the video screen so we watched most of the show on that. The first couple of songs were filmed, there was a camera on a pole which was pretty annoying because when it filmed Stevie, we couldn't see her anymore. After 3 or 4 songs the camera was gone, thank goodness.
The show was fantastic. When The Chain started I got a little choked up, it was such a long time ago when I heard/saw them live right in front of me. Finally they were there and I was there too.
The setlist is exactly the same as in the USA, no changes at all, but that was fine by me. They were there!!!!!!!! Stevie wore the Reeboks and a black dress but not THE DRESS. It looked different. Maybe they altered it. She looked very tired (saw that on the video screen) as if she hadn't slept in days. Her make up was pretty heavy. But her voice sounded crystal clear and she hit all the high notes. The harmonies between her Lindsey were sooooo awesome. Those 2 voices were made for each other, I swear. A definite highlight was GDW. She was screaming at the top of her lungs and got totally into it. We looked at the video screen and her eyes were like fire. That was one angry woman on that stage!!!! GDW was actually the first song of the show where she gave everything she had. Rhiannon was another highlight, she wore the Rumours dress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't believe it. I took pictures but they all failed :o(
When she introduced Beautiful Child, someone sreamed something and she said something like:"That could be it, but it's not though hahahahaha". I don't know what the person said but she laughed like crazy. She dedicated Landslide to us and thanked us for being with them for such a long time. That was really sweet. She rocked the house down with Stand Back. She got totally into it, screaming at the end, twirling.... the real Stevie. WOW!!!!! What a woman!!!!!! The crowd was going nuts.
At one particular moment she was standing at our side of the stage, behind Brett Tuggle, and she was standing in the dark. The audience was a little quiet and at the top of my lungs I yelled:"STEEEEEEEEEVIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEIE". I thought she didn't hear me but much to my surprise she turned around and waved!!!!!!! She didn't know it was me of course because we were all in the dark, but still..... MY Stevie moment LOL.
Than Lindsey......... Oh Lord, what a guy. My friend and I gave him a nickname: Psycho Rocker. I thought he was going crazy. He extended the I'm So Afraid solo and it was awesome. He was talking to the audience (Stevie didn't say much) and had them play his guitar and threw them 2 towels. The most funniest moment was when the intro of Stand Back began with all the percussion and stuff. He was standing in the corner and pretended he was Mick in a very funny way. He was slamming his chest and was making faces LOL. He carried the show big time. Slamming his guitar to the floor, doing all sort of things with it and he was brilliant.
Mick & John were..... well, Mick and John. John just stood there, playing his bass and didn't do much of anything. Mick's drumsolo was great, screaming:"The Mac is back". Lindsey was at his side of the stage, sitting on the floor watching Mick, making faces and waving his arms LOL.
For the encores Stevie wore the platforms but she didn't look too comfortable in them. I think the Reeboks are orthpedic shoes, maybe because of her hip and/or back problems.
There was one strange thing though..... everyone was sweating like crazy (even John and he just stood there) except for Stevie. That was pretty weird.
At the end of the show they all took the stage and went from left to right to wave at everyone. Lindsey signed a few things and Stevie shook some hands and than.... it was over. To me they could've played for hours longer.
As for all the moments between Stevie and Lindsey, the hugging and the kissing her hands, the boxing etc., to me it's all an act. Lindsey was pretty spontaneous, but Stevie was definitely acting. Everyone around me made comments like:"He's okay, but she doesn't really want to do it, look at her face. She's not into it". And they were right. She wasn't into it. It's not strange though, after 70+ shows, it must be pretty boring.
So we went to the backstage area only to find out that they had already left. Someone told me that they go straight into the limo's right after the show. "Fleetwood Mac have left the building" LOL. So I didn't get to meet any of them, no autographs but that's okay. I was just happy to see them again. THEY ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those of you who are going to see them, you're in for the night of your life!!!!!!!!
As for Germany I can totally relate to Stevie, that country sucks big time. I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone but it's just not my country. I felt uneasy, there was an unpleasant tension in the air as if something bad could happen at any moment. I couldn't sleep and the food is crappy: sour and greasy.... yuck. "I'm never going back again" unless Fleetwood Mac will be there.
Still we had a great time thanks to The Mac. I'll never forget it.
Debbie

[GardenStateGirlie]

Hey Debbie! No meeting with Lindsey this time? ;) Thanks for the review! Glad to hear that you had an amazing time!!! Sorry about the bad Germany experience...I've only been in the airport in Frankfurt which was interesting to say the very least :D

[Sorcerer_NL]

Great review Debbie !!

I was at the Arena around 16:30 and spent some time and had dinner in the CentrO opposite to the Arena. I went back and was standing in line at 18:00, around 18:30u the doors were openened and whitin a minute a was in (I was hardly petted down, so I could have easily sneaked in my camera and minidisc-recorder, which I didn't...too bad !)

Anyways, at 19:00 the innerdoord were opened and I entered the beautiful Arena. I suppose you were also on the left-side of the stage. I was in block 111, just in the corner. Somewhat 6 rows above the floor and had a perfect, clear, unblocked view on stage, I noticed the camera-crane, but it didn't harm my sight.

My chair was perfect, far better then those crappy seats in the Ahoy' in Rotterdam.

Anyways, I tried to enter the floor, but this nice young lady wasn't to be persuaded that I had to be there (since I noticed a lot of space left for plenty of more people)... :)

After the show I was back in my hotel (near the Haubtbahnhoff) in just 20 minutes...great public transport overthere in Oberhausen, overhere they can learn from it !

[MissJanet]

As for Germany I can totally relate to Stevie, that country sucks big time.

ROTFLMAO. Well, that is probably the reason they played 4 times in Germany and not once in the Netherlands.

Thanks Debbie, that one was interesting. BTW, are you a foodball-fan?

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by MissJanet
ROTFLMAO. Well, that is probably the reason they played 4 times in Germany and not once in the Netherlands.

Thanks Debbie, that one was interesting. BTW, are you a foodball-fan?

I'm a soccer fan but only when Holland plays (I'm a patriot, can't help it).
Debbie
P.S. They didn't play in The Netherlands because they weren't asked :mad:

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
Hey Debbie! No meeting with Lindsey this time? ;) Thanks for the review! Glad to hear that you had an amazing time!!! Sorry about the bad Germany experience...I've only been in the airport in Frankfurt which was interesting to say the very least :D


No meeting with Lindsey this time and I doubt it'll ever happen again. Maybe in London but I don't think so.
Debbie

[Sorcerer_NL]

Debbie wrote:

P.S. They didn't play in The Netherlands because they weren't asked


That means that MOJO didn't expected to make any money out of a FM-show, probably due to the fact that SYW wasn't really promoted and did nothing in the album-charts....

That makes it even more sucking then it already did :-)

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by Sorcerer_NL
Great review Debbie !!

I was at the Arena around 16:30 and spent some time and had dinner in the CentrO opposite to the Arena. I went back and was standing in line at 18:00, around 18:30u the doors were openened and whitin a minute a was in (I was hardly petted down, so I could have easily sneaked in my camera and minidisc-recorder, which I didn't...too bad !)

Anyways, at 19:00 the innerdoord were opened and I entered the beautiful Arena. I suppose you were also on the left-side of the stage. I was in block 111, just in the corner. Somewhat 6 rows above the floor and had a perfect, clear, unblocked view on stage, I noticed the camera-crane, but it didn't harm my sight.

My chair was perfect, far better then those crappy seats in the Ahoy' in Rotterdam.

Anyways, I tried to enter the floor, but this nice young lady wasn't to be persuaded that I had to be there (since I noticed a lot of space left for plenty of more people)... :)

After the show I was back in my hotel (near the Haubtbahnhoff) in just 20 minutes...great public transport overthere in Oberhausen, overhere they can learn from it !

We were in block 113 and the people next to me were sooooooo boring. They were sitting there as if they were watching television!!!! And when I started to "sing" along they looked at me as if I was crazy (I am, but they don't know that). I thought they were like zombies. When Stand Back rocked the house, they moved and I was going:"They're alive".
I agree that the seats were better than in Rotterdam although I haven't been there in years.
Next stop for me is London on the 30th but I'm still dazzled by Thursday. It was a great show and I hope Stevie will get decent sleep. She looked so tired.
Debbie

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by Sorcerer_NL
Debbie wrote:




That means that MOJO didn't expected to make any money out of a FM-show, probably due to the fact that SYW wasn't really promoted and did nothing in the album-charts....

That makes it even more sucking then it already did :-)


Exactly, I bet if they were asked to play here, they would've sold out Ahoy in a minute.
Debbie

[pinklotus]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
I had read in almost every review that the show started at 8:15, 8:20 so we were at the venue at 19:45. We thought we had enough time to look around and stuff. NOT!!!! As soon as we took our seats, the lights went out. It was 8:03!!!!!

Umm, sorry what did you expect ? The Ticket says: Opening Time 18:00 and Show beginning: 20:00
If you are to late, sorry, but that is your fault.

When she introduced Beautiful Child, someone sreamed something and she said something like:"That could be it, but it's not though hahahahaha". I don't know what the person said but she laughed like crazy.

Someone yelled / asked for: SARA

For the encores Stevie wore the platforms but she didn't look too comfortable in them. I think the Reeboks are orthpedic shoes, maybe because of her hip and/or back problems.
There was one strange thing though..... everyone was sweating like crazy (even John and he just stood there) except for Stevie. That was pretty weird.
At the end of the show they all took the stage and went from left to right to wave at everyone. Lindsey signed a few things and Stevie shook some hands and than.... it was over. To me they could've played for hours longer.

Yeah, that was nice ... Lindsey signen a Photo I took in Frankfurt from him and Stevie shook my Hand ... great memories

Lindsey was pretty spontaneous, but Stevie was definitely acting. Everyone around me made comments like:"He's okay, but she doesn't really want to do it, look at her face. She's not into it". And they were right. She wasn't into it. It's not strange though, after 70+ shows, it must be pretty boring.

eems you have been in a different Concert than I was, Of course its routine after 70 Shows, but Stevie needs that and want to do that.

As for Germany I can totally relate to Stevie, that country sucks big time. I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone

no ???

but it's just not my country. I felt uneasy, there was an unpleasant tension in the air as if something bad could happen at any moment.

What exactly ? Earthquakes ? Thunder ? Frogs ? Hailstorms ? Something like that ?

I couldn't sleep and the food is crappy: sour and greasy.... yuck. "I'm never going back again" unless Fleetwood Mac will be there.

Yeah, that can happen when you travel far into another country/culture :rolleyes:

But great to hear that you had fun;)

Alex

[stefan]

Originally posted by The Catdancer

As for Germany I can totally relate to Stevie, that country sucks big time. I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone but it's just not my country. I felt uneasy, there was an unpleasant tension in the air as if something bad could happen at any moment.
Debbie
Yes we are terrible people living in a terrible land. Any stranger we can identify we capture to hold him/her as a hostage for years. On every full moon black hairs are growing on my back and my teeth get longer and longer. We eat little children too, that's probably why you don't like the food over here. :laugh:
Anyway I`m glad you liked the show as I did- I am sure you are watching the relegation match Netherlands versus Scotland right now and hopefully have a good time.

[MissJanet]

I'm a soccer fan but only when Holland plays (I'm a patriot, can't help it).

Thank you Debbie, now I need a new keyboard, since I spilled my diet-coke on this one when I read your answer.

Honey, you don't get cynism very good.

I am happy that you enjoyed the concert, but your review is very unfriendly to say the least. Patriot? I thought so.

[pinklotus]

Originally posted by stefan
Yes we are terrible people living in a terrible land. Any stranger we can identify we capture to hold him/her as a hostage for years. On every full moon black hairs are growing on my back and my teeth get longer and longer. We eat little children too, that's probably why you don't like the food over here. :laugh:
Anyway I`m glad you liked the show as I did- I am sure you are watching the relegation match Netherlands versus Scotland right now and hopefully have a good time.

L O L !!!!

oh my god, hadn´t such a good laugh in years ... thank you. can i invite you for dinner ? i´m sure you like child au vin, do you ?

Alexandra

:laugh:

[The Catdancer]

Good that you Germans are patriots too.
I don't think my review was unfriendly at all, I just told you my experience that's all there is to it. We're all entitled to our own opinion.
Debbie

[MissJanet]

As for Germany I can totally relate to Stevie, that country sucks big time. I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone but it's just not my country. I felt uneasy, there was an unpleasant tension in the air as if something bad could happen at any moment. I couldn't sleep and the food is crappy: sour and greasy.... yuck. "I'm never going back again" unless Fleetwood Mac will be there.

That is not unfriendly? Wow.

[pinklotus]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
Good that you Germans are patriots too.

I think everyone kinda loves the Country (s)he lives in and nobody likes to read when someone says that their own country "sucks"

I don't think my review was unfriendly at all

Your Review WAS unfriendly

Debbie

Well, I had my fun with you and your "fantastic" tread, let´s go back to normal life :D

Alexandra

[shackin'up]

the germans in the audience were swinging from the beginning! :distress:
Let's be fair, the audience responded very lame. Maybe it has nothing to do with the country, maybe it has. Maybe it was FM. But not in my perception. Don't get me wrong, I work with germans everyday and always have nice contact. But this audience was very,very slow and not very "in it".

Oh, and Debbie, I was in 113, too. If I had known that we could have had some fun together! (thought you were on the floor!)

Have fun in England!

gerald:wavey:

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by stefan
Yes we are terrible people living in a terrible land. Any stranger we can identify we capture to hold him/her as a hostage for years. On every full moon black hairs are growing on my back and my teeth get longer and longer. We eat little children too, that's probably why you don't like the food over here. :laugh:
.

I've heard that about you people.:nod: :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
Good that you Germans are patriots too.
I don't think my review was unfriendly at all, I just told you my experience that's all there is to it. We're all entitled to our own opinion.
Debbie

Thanks for your review Debbie. I have been looking forward to reading it. I'm glad you finally got to see Stevie and FM again.
:) :wavey:

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by shackin'up
the germans in the audience were swinging from the beginning! :distress:
Let's be fair, the audience responded very lame. Maybe it has nothing to do with the country, maybe it has. Maybe it was FM. But not in my perception. Don't get me wrong, I work with germans everyday and always have nice contact. But this audience was very,very slow and not very "in it".

Oh, and Debbie, I was in 113, too. If I had known that we could have had some fun together! (thought you were on the floor!)

Have fun in England!

gerald:wavey:

You're right, the audience was really lame. But ah well, it's all over & done with. Too bad we didn't get to meet.
Thanks, I know I will have fun in London!!!!
Debbie

[HomerMcvie]

Note to self- don't post honest opinions here.

[sodascouts]

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
Note to self- don't post honest opinions here.

...Unless you can handle it if people disagree with you.

[Bumperke]

Please quit.
I'll be the peacemaker.:angel:

Come on, Debbie wrote everything in a state of shock.
I was in the same block, front row and been warned several times by security to put the camera away.

Debb, now i remember you, you had a small flag with STEVIE printed on it.
Please, when people go see there idols they are freaking out, German people are so polite, the just wait and clap there hands together.
You shouldn't write that about the food, German people are proud of there kitchen, i thinks its good.
Regarding soccer, finally Scotland beats us. Everybody will be very disappointent next wednesday, Netherlands will NOT beat Scotland, have you see them play??
They don't deserve a ticket to Portugal.

So please don't start acking eachother anymore.
I'll put a pretty picture in, and remember the concert, didn't we enjoyed it all??

Will

[MissJanet]

Hi there Peacekeeper :),
While I'm certainly still mad at Debbie for her uncalled for remarks, I don't want to ruin my memory of the concert with a cheap fight on a message board. But let me explain my anger a bit now, I will leave it at that.

The people in the area around Oberhausen don't have easy lifes. Statistically every third person who was at the concert has no job and no money. We just wanted to have a good time for a change, in our own more subtle way.

I worked as a cleaning woman for 4 weeks aside from my regular job to get the money together to be there, I loved the concert, 2,5 hours away from everydays trouble.

I came to the board in a very good mood, wanted to share my great experience with everyone. And then some spoiled brat is making posh comments about the audience, the country, the food, everything. You just can't expect me to like that.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone who read this thread, I just couldn't help myself, I had to make some sort of comment towards Debbie. :wavey:

[Bumperke]

Originally posted by MissJanet
Hi there Peacekeeper :),
While I'm certainly still mad at Debbie for her uncalled for remarks, I don't want to ruin my memory of the concert with a cheap fight on a message board. But let me explain my anger a bit now, I will leave it at that.

The people in the area around Oberhausen don't have easy lifes. Statistically every third person who was at the concert has no job and no money. We just wanted to have a good time for a change, in our own more subtle way.

I worked as a cleaning woman for 4 weeks aside from my regular job to get the money together to be there, I loved the concert, 2,5 hours away from everydays trouble.

I came to the board in a very good mood, wanted to share my great experience with everyone. And then some spoiled brat is making posh comments about the audience, the country, the food, everything. You just can't expect me to like that.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone who read this thread, I just couldn't help myself, I had to make some sort of comment towards Debbie. :wavey:
He miss Janet, I know exactly what the situation is in "der Ruhrpot". A lot of unemployment, bad air ans so on.
But i don't think Catdancer wanted to offend you. Is is a clear notice of a day, and not everybody likes everything. I don't think she's spoiled, but i can't give an real answer, Debbie has too.
I find it nice that you liked the concert, not everybody is an absolute die-hard.
But don't be mad, i'm sure she did mean it in a other way.

Love Will,
You know, send me your emailadress, i will send you some pictures.

[MissJanet]

Hi Will,
thank you for your friendly post, i really appreciate that :).
For what it's worth, I am one of these die-hard fans for 24 years now and against all odds I waited 13 years to see my band again.

My e-mail addy is [email protected]. I will send you some first-row-right-in-front-of-Stevie pictures back, if I get your addy. :nod:

Love Janet

[WELSH WITCH]

Hey,

I can say for myself that I really enjoyed the concert and never had the feeling Debby is describing. The audiance was lame from time to time, it looked like they woke up during the encores.

The orginisation of the show and everything around it was great. I never saw a parkinglot like it anywhere over here, so very well lit and FREEE!!!!!!!! :laugh:

The second part of the show I was sitting on the ground near the stairs and noticed the girl telling people to put the camera's away but on the other hand we had the feeling the band didn't really mind and the search at teh entrance wasn't so good. I had my phone attached to my belt and the guy could clearly see it but didn't say anything about it.

As for German food, I was sick so I never ate anything anyway....


Dimphy

[The Catdancer]

Originally posted by MissJanet
Hi there Peacekeeper :),
While I'm certainly still mad at Debbie for her uncalled for remarks, I don't want to ruin my memory of the concert with a cheap fight on a message board. But let me explain my anger a bit now, I will leave it at that.

The people in the area around Oberhausen don't have easy lifes. Statistically every third person who was at the concert has no job and no money. We just wanted to have a good time for a change, in our own more subtle way.

I worked as a cleaning woman for 4 weeks aside from my regular job to get the money together to be there, I loved the concert, 2,5 hours away from everydays trouble.

I came to the board in a very good mood, wanted to share my great experience with everyone. And then some spoiled brat is making posh comments about the audience, the country, the food, everything. You just can't expect me to like that.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone who read this thread, I just couldn't help myself, I had to make some sort of comment towards Debbie. :wavey:

Hi Miss Janet,
I'm deeply sorry for my comments and I already made a thread where I apologize for my comments about your country. You're right, they were totally uncalled for. I'm not a spoiled brat, on the contrary(sp?). When December comes I'm not even able to pay my rent and won't have money for food either because I wanted to go to 2 shows. I live on disabillty and I can't work because of my handicap.
I'm really sorry and I hope you can forgive me.
Debbie

[MissJanet]

Originally posted by The Catdancer
Hi Miss Janet,
I'm deeply sorry for my comments and I already made a thread where I apologize for my comments about your country. You're right, they were totally uncalled for. I'm not a spoiled brat, on the contrary(sp?). When December comes I'm not even able to pay my rent and won't have money for food either because I wanted to go to 2 shows. I live on disabillty and I can't work because of my handicap.
I'm really sorry and I hope you can forgive me.
Debbie

Just like I said over at the other thread, I of course accept and I apologize to you, too. Especially the "Spoiled Brat" was uncalled for, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I never got into a fight like this before and I really hated it, I'm glad that we can move on now.

I hope you'll find a solution to your financial problems and that you feel better soon.

Peace again

Janet

[The Catdancer]

You're right, let's move on.
I hate these fights too and I'm tahnkfull for your forgiveness.
Let's have fun!!!!!!!!!
Debbie

[Bumperke]

And we all lived happy,.....

Will:laugh: