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Sorcerer386
11-01-2003, 12:41 AM
After the response from my other thread about Say You Will, I was wondering what everyone thinks the opening lines of Freedom mean. "Dim and wavering on a wind blown night, whose honor, whose anger, cold and quivering, as was the wind blown night..." I pretty much get the rest of the song, but I just can't grasp these lyrics. :wavey:
paleshadow
11-01-2003, 02:36 AM
"Dim and wavering as was the wind-blown light"
That's a quote from "The Picture of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde. Stevie quotes a lot from her favorite authors.
On the TISL version of Planets the new first verse takes a few lines from the Edgar Allan Poe poem "Dream-land"
"By a route obscure and lonely, Haunted by ill angels only" is similar "haunted by that same closed door", but the next few lines are even closer:
"Mountains toppling evermore
Into seas without a shore;
Seas that restlessly aspire,
Surging, unto skies of fire"
Most recently people have been talking about "Running Through the Garden" being based on "Rappaccini's Daughter" by Nathaniel Hawthorn.
"that she herself had become the deadliest poison in existance".
I think that sometimes perhaps some of her lines don't mean anything in particular, but she just likes the sound of a line out of someone else's writing and wants to put it to music, except for "Running Through the Garden" because that song is specifically about the story.
darklinensuit
11-01-2003, 05:32 AM
Stevie has said that she keeps books around for late at night and will just flip to a page, read, and then go write.
She put Annabelle Lee to music pretty faithfully.
- Jake
strandinthewind
11-01-2003, 11:55 AM
I LOVE LOVE LOVE her for this!!!!!
Sting also does this, e.g. , "that book by Nabokov." They should get together and do a duet!!!!!
darklinensuit
11-01-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
I LOVE LOVE LOVE her for this!!!!!
Sting also does this, e.g. , "that book by Nabokov." They should get together and do a duet!!!!!
No, I'd like her to keep her money.
Did you forget my Sting tale already?:rolleyes:
- Jake
darklinensuit
11-01-2003, 01:00 PM
Also, aren't the opening lines to Paper Doll a famous quote, I think by Oscar Wilde?
- Jake
strandinthewind
11-01-2003, 06:23 PM
And let us not forget the paraphrase of The Bard - "Its better to have loved and lost - then never to have loved at all (ah but its btter not to lose)."
It sort of reminds me of the Mary Pickford Douglas Fairbanks classic "The Taming of the Shrew" - screenplayby X, with additional dialouge by William Shakespeare!!!!" :laugh:
paleshadow
11-02-2003, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
"And let us not forget the paraphrase of The Bard - "Its better to have loved and lost - then never to have loved at all (ah but its btter not to lose)"
Actually, it's Alfred Lord Tennyson who gets credit for that quote, not Shakespeare. :)
DownOnRodeo
11-02-2003, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by darklinensuit
No, I'd like her to keep her money.
Did you forget my Sting tale already?:rolleyes:
- Jake
Haha I'd forgotten about that ~ flashback to a Ledge gone by. Stoopid Sting! :distress:
"Oh can't you see
The change belongs to me
My wallet aches
With every till you take
I'll be ripping you off...."
strandinthewind
11-02-2003, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by paleshadow
Originally posted by strandinthewind
"And let us not forget the paraphrase of The Bard - "Its better to have loved and lost - then never to have loved at all (ah but its btter not to lose)"
Actually, it's Alfred Lord Tennyson who gets credit for that quote, not Shakespeare. :)
Oops - I thought it was from Romeo and Juliet!!!! :eek: :shrug: :sorry:
Oh well - ya live ya learn!!!!!!!
darklinensuit
11-03-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
Oops - I thought it was from Romeo and Juliet!!!! :eek: :shrug: :sorry:
Oh well - ya live ya learn!!!!!!!
If it makes you feel any better, to this day I haven't even read Romeo & Juliet! And I took two courses on Shakespeare, one in high school and one in college.
- Jake
Sorcerer386
11-04-2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by darklinensuit
If it makes you feel any better, to this day I haven't even read Romeo & Juliet! And I took two courses on Shakespeare, one in high school and one in college.
- Jake
Don't worry Jake, you're not missing much. The only great thing about the play is that true love doesn't win in the end. I know that sounds rather sordid, but it's quite a relief from all of the bland "win conquers all" nonsense that gets shoved down everyone's throat (or at least my throat). Excuse the seemingly bitterness, I just don't believe in the whole notion of love and how you can't control it, blah blah blah.
strandinthewind
11-05-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by darklinensuit
If it makes you feel any better, to this day I haven't even read Romeo & Juliet! And I took two courses on Shakespeare, one in high school and one in college.
- Jake
I can still say the "Two Households - both alike in dignity" opening monologue (chorus) from memory as I has to memorize in the 10th grade :laugh: (same for Hamlets take on death - "To be or not to be" ) :laugh: R&J is a good read.
:cool:
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