New Single - Thrown Down [Archive]

GardenStateGirlie

10-19-2003, 05:06 PM

Well, if it's not, then it should be. I have a feeling that towards springtime if not sooner, we'll be hearing the Wall of Sound version of Thrown Down on the radio. I do hope this will be another new song they add to the setlist because it will be FABULOUS on stage :nod:

DownOnRodeo

10-19-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
I have a feeling that towards springtime if not sooner, we'll be hearing the Wall of Sound version of Thrown Down on the radio.
Please tell me your predictions usually don't eventuate, Marissa! :distress:

gldstwmn

10-19-2003, 05:40 PM

I think the German promo has been around for a while.

wondergirl9847

10-19-2003, 05:41 PM

Bite your tongue man!! :laugh: The WOS version of TD is GREATNESS!! I'd LOVE to hear that on the radio!! Anything really besides SYW. :rolleyes:

:laugh:

sodascouts

10-19-2003, 06:26 PM

EFO is the one they should release. That one rocks the kasbah.

EricBliss12345

10-19-2003, 08:27 PM

EFO isn't bad but it hardly sounds like a Fleetwood Mac song and isn't an appropriate representation.

I think Miranda is the best song on the CD, why they haven't put that out as a single is beyond me. I think that would come across over radio a lot better than the mid-tempo relaxing rock of the first 2 singles.

darklinensuit

10-19-2003, 08:50 PM

Sorry, Christy, I don't care for the WOS version either.
Sorry, Nancy, EFO puts the kabosh in my rocks. Still don't care for it compared to Stevie's other songs.
I agree that Miranda would be a wise choice for radio play. Meaning it won't ever happen.

- Jake

dissention

10-19-2003, 10:17 PM

The WOS version rocks, period. The album version sucks teabags.

EFO sounds like a Mac song to me; it could've fit perfectly on TITN with a few alterations. It reeks of the Mac, IMO. :nod: But they'd be to chicken **** to release it.

Miranda has too much noodling but I think it would do okay on the radio.

IF they were smart, they'd release Destiny Rules or What's the World Coming To. IF they were ballsy, they'd release an edited version Come or Smile At You. But they're neither, so it doesn't matter.

Miranda

10-20-2003, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by EricBliss12345
EFO isn't bad but it hardly sounds like a Fleetwood Mac song and isn't an appropriate representation.

I think Miranda is the best song on the CD, why they haven't put that out as a single is beyond me. I think that would come across over radio a lot better than the mid-tempo relaxing rock of the first 2 singles.

It's the best radio song by far. I totally agree. If Miranda had been the first single I think the album would have gotten more attention from a younger audience and non fans. It rocks, it's funky, it's got a great hook, and the guitar is like a trip to outer space. It's the best of LB solo meets the Mac rhythm section head on!

EricBliss12345

10-20-2003, 07:32 AM

It certainly would have got more attention from me. It's the only song on Say You Will I listen to.

Everybody Finds Out is just...I don't know there's something about it thats just very un-Fleetwood Mac-y to me. It's catchy enough but it's a corny song...the intro makes me feel like I'm listening to some 2nd rate dance music by one of those 2nd rate diva type singers. Plus some of Stevie's vocals on this one are pretty bad. It just doesn't sound like Fleetwood Mac at ALL to me. It's written by Stevie and 3 other non-Mac members right? There ya go.

dissention

10-20-2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by EricBliss12345
It certainly would have got more attention from me. It's the only song on Say You Will I listen to.

Everybody Finds Out is just...I don't know there's something about it thats just very un-Fleetwood Mac-y to me. It's catchy enough but it's a corny song...the intro makes me feel like I'm listening to some 2nd rate dance music by one of those 2nd rate diva type singers. Plus some of Stevie's vocals on this one are pretty bad. It just doesn't sound like Fleetwood Mac at ALL to me. It's written by Stevie and 3 other non-Mac members right? There ya go.

The lyrics are by Stevie and the music is by Rick Knowles; you're probably thinking about Running Through the Garden. :) It starts off sounding like a second rate dance song, but then it kicks in and rocks, IMO. Even if it didn't sound like the Mac, most of the album doesn't sound like the Mac either. Like I said earlier, no one should buy SYW and expect it to sound like Rumours or Mirage.

And bad vocals on Stevie's part?!

:eek:

I think it's one of her *best* vocals ever; she's amazing on it. The last minute and a half of that song shocked me, just like it shocked everyone else. When it first came out back in April, people 'round these parts were amazed at the vocal. Try to get the Center Channel Mixes or wait until I post all the tracks on my page; it has very minimal background music and concentrates only on the vocal. You'll probably change your mind about it. :D

CarneVaca

10-20-2003, 08:14 AM

I don't see any of these songs hitting it big on the radio, not that it even matters to me. When the Dance came out the only songs that got radio play were retreads. The public at large is more interested in hearing the old stuff than the new songs. Meanwhile, the Dave Matthews and Limp Biskits are what kids want today.

New music from Fleetwood Mac has limited appeal. However, I still stand by my prediction that SYW will sell about 2 million. It is sure to get a Grammy nomination or two, which will spur sales.

On a completely unrelated note, Lindsey should wise up and release the Soundstage show as a live album.

dissention

10-20-2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
On a completely unrelated note, Lindsey should wise up and release the Soundstage show as a live album.

Amen. :nod:

strandinthewind

10-20-2003, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
On a completely unrelated note, Lindsey should wise up and release the Soundstage show as a live album.

I was there and let me tell you, that given the technology of DVD, It would be incredible.

AND - I am sure I on the footage in many scenes and would love to be immortalized dancing wildly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

shackin'up

10-20-2003, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
A:I don't see any of these songs hitting it big on the radio, not that it even matters to me. When the Dance came out the only songs that got radio play were retreads. The public at large is more interested in hearing the old stuff than the new songs. Meanwhile, the Dave Matthews and Limp Biskits are what kids want today.

B:New music from Fleetwood Mac has limited appeal. However, I still stand by my prediction that SYW will sell about 2 million. It is sure to get a Grammy nomination or two, which will spur sales.

C:On a completely unrelated note, Lindsey should wise up and release the Soundstage show as a live album.

A: True. But I think Miranda would do good in Europe.

B: True, too. Could be more if they were showing some new songs (WTWCT, Miranda, RTTG, DR, SG, GB) combined with Come and some old stuff live on television here in Europe.

C: I only wish THAT was true. AMEN again.

:wavey:

stefan

10-20-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
The public at large is more interested in hearing the old stuff than the new songs.

That`s right Carne and I do believe this is all about image. It`s the groups name which is combined with an era and with certain songs. The new songs would do good on pop radio stations if they achieved some airplay. Listeners then start requesting it without knowing the groups name. So they did with Peacekeeper. It got some airplay over here, still didn't make it onto the charts though. (Which of course means nothing) But on the weekly request charts on WDR 2 it was on top spot during june or July. Say you will wasn't on the radio, and I don't believe it was a single over here. Thrown down was on the radio but only for 2 or 3 weeks. On our popstation WDR 2, which plays pop and rock from the 70's up to today this is the list of FM songs from the last 7 days:
Fleetwood Mac Love shines
Fleetwood Mac Gypsy
Fleetwood Mac Don't stop
Fleetwood Mac Oh Diane
Fleetwood Mac Seven wonders
Fleetwood Mac Dreams
Fleetwood Mac Little lies
Fleetwood Mac Hold me
Fleetwood Mac Peacekeeper
Fleetwood Mac Go your own way
Fleetwood Mac Save me

Still some Peacekeeper appearances, seems someone at the station likes it. I expected TD to do better and still believe it would have been requested if it had been more present on the radio... But of course PK was my favourite single choice from SYW.

Nice to see all of you back here on the ledge,
:wavey: Stefan

gldstwmn

10-20-2003, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
On a completely unrelated note, Lindsey should wise up and release the Soundstage show as a live album.

I think that could actually happen. But please don't let him noodle and"fix' too much from that performance. It was jaw droppingly perfect just the way it was.

strandinthewind

10-20-2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by gldstwmn
I think that could actually happen. But please don't let him noodle and"fix' too much from that performance. It was jaw droppingly perfect just the way it was.

Preach On!!!!! AND - they better include the Frozen Love thing!!!!

AND - If I am on tape - you are as well darlin'

;)

GardenStateGirlie

10-20-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Preach On!!!!! AND - they better include the Frozen Love thing!!!!

AND - If I am on tape - you are as well darlin'

;)

And I can say, "I KNOW THEM!" :D Too bad you guys forgot to bring your HI MARISSA sign :laugh:

Yes, hopefully they'll release it. But, with everything else this band and this man do, we might be waiting a while....:laugh:

strandinthewind

10-20-2003, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
[B]And I can say, "I KNOW THEM!" :D Too bad you guys forgot to bring your HI MARISSA sign :laugh: [b]

In fact, I had that very sign tatooed somewhere that they censored!!!! :cool:

GardenStateGirlie

10-20-2003, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
[B]And I can say, "I KNOW THEM!" :D Too bad you guys forgot to bring your HI MARISSA sign :laugh: [b]

In fact, I had that very sign tatooed somewhere that they censored!!!! :cool:

Well, when they focus in on you and there's a big blur then i'll be like, "that? was for me" :laugh: <3

AliP

10-20-2003, 09:15 PM

I've never listened to the "Wall of Sound" version before so I just downloaded it. Where is this from anyway? Was it an AOL version or something? I may be one of the few, but I like the album version way better. What's with all these voices Lindsey likes to put in the background music? I hate that. Like what he did with "Smile at You" with Stevie going ahh, ahhh, ahh in the background. It's so annoying.

jwd

10-20-2003, 10:50 PM

I've never listened to the "Wall of Sound" version before so I just downloaded it. Where is this from anyway?

It was just one of those versions/outtakes of the song that was "leaked" before the album was released. Boy am I glad that it wasn't the one that ended up on the album. The lp TD is much more appealing to the ears...at least these. :)

Joe

CarneVaca

10-21-2003, 09:04 AM

The Dance took only a couple months to mix. If Lindsey decided to release the Soundstage performance, I can't imagine it would take him much longer than that to mix a stripped-down show.

strandinthewind

10-21-2003, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
The Dance took only a couple months to mix. If Lindsey decided to release the Soundstage performance, I can't imagine it would take him much longer than that to mix a stripped-down show.

Unlike The Dance which had at least 12 people performing, there were only three people on stage at the PBS Soundstage (Neale, Brett and LB) for most of the show; Stevie was there for two songs. I noticed other one or two people who appeared to be be playing synth/keyboard offstage, but they may have just been techies, etc. So, I say get to work and put THE ENTIRE CONCERT out!!!!!!! :cool:

Cour

10-23-2003, 02:28 PM

Someone is posting over on Mick's site that they're releasing this on Nov 10th. There's no info where they heard or saw this, is there any news around that this is true?

Carolina Girl

10-23-2003, 02:36 PM

Is "Soundstage" the PBS show? If so, will it be broadcast?

Cour

10-23-2003, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Carolina Girl
Is "Soundstage" the PBS show? If so, will it be broadcast?

Soundstage is Lindsey's PBS show and it's supposed to air sometime in late spring. It will air on all PBS stations.

Fleetwood Mac has a PBS show filmed at their concert in Boston and it will also air on PBS in the spring. There's some dispute as to whether that concert will be part of the Soundstage series. A DVD of this show is supposed to be released.

gldstwmn

10-23-2003, 07:27 PM

One of the production assistants sitting next to the girls in the fornt row told them the show would be aired in March (Soundstage, Chicago). That's all I've heard. I would love it if it was sooner!

Merf

10-23-2003, 08:10 PM

Someone on Mick's board who posts under the name "Indigo" says that "Thrown Down" is confirmed to be the third single and will be released the week of November 10th. He was referring to the United States/Canada and not Europe. Anyone else heard this?

WelshWitchPMD

10-23-2003, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Unlike The Dance which had at least 12 people performing, there were only three people on stage at the PBS Soundstage (Neale, Brett and LB) for most of the show; Stevie was there for two songs. I noticed other one or two people who appeared to be be playing synth/keyboard offstage, but they may have just been techies, etc. So, I say get to work and put THE ENTIRE CONCERT out!!!!!!! :cool:

Hey you forgot Taku he was there, too.
I am on this video too in the front row. I am also in the front row of both Boston PBS tapings. I have a feeling that I am going to be in hiding for a while next year.:eek:

sulamith

10-24-2003, 01:18 PM

Well at Soundstage I was smack in between strandinthewind and gldstwmn, all of us in the 3rd row, and let me tell you, I was afraid to even scratch my nose or cough! More than once I turned around, and there was the camera, swinging around on a boom, just inches from us!! haha!!

I thought oh great, they are going to catch me doing something wierd! heehee! I know they got me taking notes, because I knew I wouldn't remember a thing if I didn't write it down.

I would love it if the entire Soundstage show becomes an extended DVD.

-Sharon

It was a blast and we danced our asses off

GardenStateGirlie

10-25-2003, 01:23 PM

gldstwmn

10-25-2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by sulamith
Well at Soundstage I was smack in between strandinthewind and gldstwmn, all of us in the 3rd row, and let me tell you, I was afraid to even scratch my nose or cough! More than once I turned around, and there was the camera, swinging around on a boom, just inches from us!! haha!!

I thought oh great, they are going to catch me doing something wierd! heehee! I know they got me taking notes, because I knew I wouldn't remember a thing if I didn't write it down.

I would love it if the entire Soundstage show becomes an extended DVD.

-Sharon

It was a blast and we danced our asses off

We did have a blast. With all the cameras everywhere, I was afraid to even blink. I watched someone else's Soundstage the other night and there were alot of shots of that area that we sat in. It will be interesting to see us in our "brilliant colors."
Once I realized that this was going to be very different I turned to Sharon and shouted "We've got to write this down." Sorry Sharon but thak you for obliging.:)

SmthngOfADreamr

10-25-2003, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Merf
Someone on Mick's board who posts under the name "Indigo" says that "Thrown Down" is confirmed to be the third single and will be released the week of November 10th. He was referring to the United States/Canada and not Europe. Anyone else heard this?

I thought that this was all wishful thinking -- until I went to work one afternoon (I occasionally do some freelance work at a tv/radio station) and I checked out upcoming releases. According to a publication that we have there called "All Access," unless this is some sort of big mistake, Thrown Down is actually going to be released as a single on Nov. 10th! I couldn't believe my eyes. Now the question really is - if this is true, why the hell have they not been performing it on tour???

GardenStateGirlie

10-25-2003, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by SmthngOfADreamr
I thought that this was all wishful thinking -- until I went to work one afternoon (I occasionally do some freelance work at a tv/radio station) and I checked out upcoming releases. According to a publication that we have there called "All Access," unless this is some sort of big mistake, Thrown Down is actually going to be released as a single on Nov. 10th! I couldn't believe my eyes. Now the question really is - if this is true, why the hell have they not been performing it on tour???

I suppose it's quite possible they'll add it to the setlist in Europe but if not, I think this is the addition to the setlist that we'll see when/if they come back to tour the sheds in the summer. I certainly hope so :nod:

jwd

10-25-2003, 03:23 PM

"Thrown Down" next single! Maybe they've been checking out our survivor polls! ;) :laugh:

Joe

Merf

10-25-2003, 04:33 PM

I know, Thrown Down as a single.... sheebus.... I can't believe it!!! :blob1: I'm so excited!! I guess if they do a video for it during the break before they head off for "six weeks in a foreign country," then we'll know they've REALLY been reading these boards ;)

Do you hear that guys? WE WANT A VIDEO! A REAL ONE! :laugh:

darklinensuit

10-25-2003, 11:47 PM

I forget, are they performing at the American Music Awards? If so I guess this is the song. And it must be going in the set. Even they aren't stupid enough to release a single and never perform it.

- Jake

GardenStateGirlie

10-25-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I forget, are they performing at the American Music Awards? If so I guess this is the song. And it must be going in the set. Even they aren't stupid enough to release a single and never perform it.

- Jake

Nope, they have a show in I believe Germany on the date of the AMA's. I don't know whether or not this is an award show where you know you've won ahead a time or not because if they do win and it is like that, perhaps they'll show something pre-recorded from the band.

LilyRose

10-25-2003, 11:52 PM

They're going to be in Europe at the time of the American Music Awards.

If they do a performance, it'd have to be via satellite or pre-recorded (most likely the pre-recorded b/c of time difference). But I don't think the AMA's would like a performance that wasn't "live", at that moment. We'll see.

Susie

EnchantedSLN

10-25-2003, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I forget, are they performing at the American Music Awards? If so I guess this is the song. And it must be going in the set. Even they aren't stupid enough to release a single and never perform it.

- Jake

They can't; they have a show in Germany that night. As soon as I heard they were nominated I tried to get a seatfiller pass (I live across the street from where they're holding the AMA's), but then I remembered the band would be in Europe and couldn't be there anyway. I hope TD being the new single means they will add it to the setlist! Like you said, it seems that they'd HAVE to perform it sometime.

darklinensuit

10-26-2003, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by EnchantedSLN
I hope TD being the new single means they will add it to the setlist! Like you said, it seems that they'd HAVE to perform it sometime.

Which probably means bye-bye to another Stevie song from the set. :rolleyes:

- Jake

riff_Shuffler

10-27-2003, 01:07 PM

Exactly!

Assuming that they return next year to do the sheds (or whatever), I believe that future singles, including Thrown Down, will be incorporated. Many people have mentioned the similarities between Gypsy and Thrown Down, so there is a chance that Gypsy could be tossed... however, the visuals during Gypsy (the video being played) has become a *staple* of the current show, so it could go either way...

I don't really see any of Stevie's other songs being removed; not even Say You Will (The Song).

Also, Lindsey is most likely aware that people love Red Rover (esp. since the Soundstage live performance), so I see that song being added as well next year. Hell, I think that Red Rover should be a single! I'm crazy like that, though.

Josh;)

Merf

10-27-2003, 01:21 PM

If they do win, I'm sure they'll have some sort of pre-recorded acceptance speech from the band where they explain why they couldn't make it. However, if this award is based on radio airplay and record sales, it sounds like Matchbox Twenty will probably take this one. But of course I will watch anyway with my fingers crossed! ;)

sodascouts

10-27-2003, 02:11 PM

Thrown Down and Red Rover added to the setlist! Dare I hope?! They'd better play those sheds as promised!!!

Oh, and I stand by my assertion that the album version of TD is MUCH better than the "Wall of Sound" with its intrusive backing vocals from Stevie's posse of singers and absent "shaken my faith" verse. The only good thing about it is Lindsey's powerful vocal at the end, that was ditched for the album cut. "About JUST how much he NEVER really TOLD HER!!!"

Sarah

10-27-2003, 03:27 PM

Accidentally slipping back on-topic (against my nature, lol) .. I have to agree with whoever it was that said that EFO reeks of the Mac.

As much as I like Thrown Down.. I feel like EFO would have been a better choice for a single. Just from "testing" the SYW album on friends/family in the car.. each non-fan has enjoyed EFO considerably more than most other songs on the cd. God, the "violin" part at the end is so freakin' awesome.

I'm definitely more of a Lindsey fan, but EFO is, IMO, probably the best song on this record. It's just that good. (And nestled in 2nd place between Angel and Gold & Braid on my list of favorite Stevie songs. ;) )

I'll keep checking our new releases here at the station, and try to find out about a release date. If there's a remix or something (other than the WOS) I'll be sure to post it.