Lindsey Talks with Charlie Rose, 9/8 on PBS [Archive]

dontlookdown

09-03-2003, 02:08 AM

this is a huge deal guys! Charlie Rose only interviews exceptionally talented people - from all walks of life. This says a lot about Lindsey and Fleetwood Mac that Charlie was interested. I think the only other "mainstream" rockers he has interviewed are Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty.

Set your VCR's - Charlie Rose is always an entertaining and captivating interviewer.

dontlookdown

09-03-2003, 02:14 AM

i just checked the sched. and it is on tonight - the 3rd, not the 8th.

CarneVaca

09-03-2003, 08:13 AM

Damn! I missed it!? AAArrrrgghhh.

By the way, Wednesday, Sept. 8 is next year, and that's only because it's a leap year. Otherwise it would be in 2005!

CarneVaca

09-03-2003, 08:29 AM

Never mind. It's today, Wednesday. I'll be watching it. Do you think he'll play a track or two?

ericktul

09-03-2003, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Never mind. It's today, Wednesday. I'll be watching it. Do you think he'll play a track or two?

Sadly, Charlie Rose does not air on OETA, Oklahoma's PBS network.

In it's place is some crappy British sitcom. Yay.

Merf

09-03-2003, 08:40 AM

Make sure you guys go to the pbs website and put in your zipcode and check your stations listings..... it's not playing tonight on one of my pbs stations but it's playing on the other one.

Livia

09-03-2003, 10:09 AM

If they update their website today, maybe we can email some questions:

Charlie Rose (http://www.charlierose.com/index.shtm)

stevierocks87

09-03-2003, 12:41 PM

It look like here in Atlanta the show comes on at 12 am, on WPBA (Channel 30), but I don't think they show it on Georgia Public Television, the station that serves the entire state.

:wavey: adam :wavey:

macmar71

09-03-2003, 02:27 PM

I remember the time when Charlie Rose had his late night show on CBS and I think the interview he did with Lindsey in 1984 was great.

wondergirl9847

09-03-2003, 02:57 PM

I can't WAIT to see this tonight!!! I believe it will be a 30 minute deal!! YAY!!

Hopefully, the first words out of his mouth won't be "So...Rumours is a great album, huh?" :rolleyes:

dissention

09-03-2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I can't WAIT to see this tonight!!! I believe it will be a 30 minute deal!! YAY!!

Hopefully, the first words out of his mouth won't be "So...Rumours is a great album, huh?" :rolleyes:

Yeah, it'll be thirty minutes! Charlie usually has two guests and spends half an hour on each. And the best part? NO COMMERCIALS! A full thirty minutes of Lindsey! And he usually digs up some *great* video clips, too. I watch him every week and he is a fantastic interviewer! His interview with Jessica Lange back in '97 was one of the best ones he has ever done.

Mystical88

09-03-2003, 11:30 PM

I have my VCR ready to hit record!!!!!! I won't set it for this! Have to watch it too. And is on a couple of times in case someone misses it tonight. Check local listings for sure!!!!!
:) :) :) :) :) :)

darklinensuit

09-03-2003, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I can't WAIT to see this tonight!!! I believe it will be a 30 minute deal!! YAY!!

Last time I let myself anticipate a long interview, I ended up seeing 25 minutes of Bryan Adams & 5 minutes of Stevie on MTV's Fanatic.:distress: I'm not letting myself get my hopes too far up, though I know Charlie can give a quality interview.

- Jake

wondergirl9847

09-04-2003, 12:11 AM

That was a GREAT interview!! They showed some of the SYW tour, Big Love from the Dance and the PK video!! Nice!! Lindsey was cute and funny. He talked about SYW, Charlie asked if he'd like to do movies...and basically he said nope. LOL (I would LOVE to see him go onstage to get an Oscar for best original song dangit!!) They talked about the inevitable...Rumours and Stevie. :rolleyes: LOL He said this is the best time of his life and being in FM (when bad stuff happened) were the worst times of his life.

So...being in FM was the BEST and WORST time of his life. LMAO!!

darklinensuit

09-04-2003, 12:43 AM

Charlie seemed positively giddy to have Lindsey on. I was half expecting him to take a cue from Letterman/Stevie and refer to Lindsey as his ex-husband.
A pretty good interview. It was neat to see how many ways Lindsey could speak of cycles without using the word cycles. (Incarnations, changes, morphing, reinvent, etc.)
Note to Lindsey: Fruit of the Loom better be paying you a LOT of money to be wearing the shirt yet again.

- Jake

GardenStateGirlie

09-04-2003, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
They talked about the inevitable...Rumours and Stevie. :rolleyes:

Well, did you think he was going to talk about the invention of Easy Mac and how Wheat Thins should be their own food group? :rolleyes: :D ;)

GardenStateGirlie

09-04-2003, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Note to Lindsey: Fruit of the Loom better be paying you a LOT of money to be wearing the shirt yet again.

- Jake

That's what his next venture should be...being the next LOOM guy. He can be one of the big pieces of fruit dancing on stage... :laugh: If not, he could always do the music to the commericals OR make his own line...lol

wondergirl9847

09-04-2003, 01:41 AM

FOTL could sponsor the tour!!! Then, ticket prices could go down!! LOL

I loved hearing him pronounce Illume also!! Ill-OOO-may.

Fave quote: "I am pushy." Hehe.

EricBliss12345

09-04-2003, 06:50 AM

He's a quirky man isn't he?

I feel like I read every answer he gave somewhere else in recent interviews.

I liked some of the live footage they showed. The song Say You Will sounds much better live.

CarneVaca

09-04-2003, 09:53 AM

Charlie Rose missed a great opportunity to talk about the state of the music industry, the current Fleetwood Mac sound and the future of the band and the industry.

Instead, we got more boring crap about Rumours and the relationship.

Except for a thoughtful pause when Charlie asked about the relationship with Stevie, Lindsey just reiterated answers that he's given so many times before. It must be hard to force yourself to actually listen to the questions when you already know what they are going to be. Really, all you have to do is go into your mental repository of canned answers to get through the interview.

A missed opportunity for sure.

Livia

09-04-2003, 10:04 AM

YAWN! Boooooring! I was really hoping Charlie would talk to LB about world issues as well.

Okay, I want LB to officially eliminate the following words and phrases from his vocabulary:

Morph
Machine
Package deal
Maneuver

And why did Charlie think that ALL of Stevie's songs on SYW were about 9/11? He probably thinks her "tower" reference in GB is the world trade center.

Sorry folks, but I was very disappointed - and skipped working out this morning cuz I stayed up so late to watch it. Meh.

CarneVaca

09-04-2003, 10:22 AM

Livia, it was obvious that Charlie had not listened to the album. If he had, wouldn't he have asked about What's the World Coming To, Murrow and Peacekeeper? Especially Murrow! It truly was a waste.

And I got a very strong sense that Lindsey is sick of talking about the relationship thing and Rumours. He even said that Rumours' popularity owes to the soap opera more than the music itself. No wonder the man has gone so out of his way since to create the anti-Rumours again and again. I really don't get the sense he enjoys the whole voyeuristic aspect of the fascination with the relationship question. If anything, I saw a man who has resigned himself to the fact that it's never going away so he might as well make the best of it while still pushing the boundaries of creativity.

gldstwmn

09-04-2003, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Charlie seemed positively giddy to have ...
- Jake

met Lindsey's wife in the anitique store. It was the same old thing. I think Charlie, like a lot of us, has a Stevie fixation. I'm glad to see Mr. Buck supporting public TV, although I'm not surprised.

Also, did he have to mention that FM was playing Biloxi? He could have mentioned MSG but I'm guessing that once again, this date isn't selling so well.

John Run

09-04-2003, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by gldstwmn

Also, did he have to mention that FM was playing Biloxi? He could have mentioned MSG but I'm guessing that once again, this date isn't selling so well. [/B]

More logically it was mentioned because it is their next tour date.....

gldstwmn

09-04-2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by John Run
More logically it was mentioned because it is their next tour date.....

Who's to say what is logical? That is your opinion and I respect that. It was just the context in which he said it: Springsteen is playing Shea Stadium, The Stones were going to play China but cancelled due to SARS and you guys are playing Biloxi. To which Lindsey responded "Ha." It wasn't the best segue, IMO.

Cour

09-04-2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Charlie Rose missed a great opportunity to talk about the state of the music industry, the current Fleetwood Mac sound and the future of the band and the industry.

Instead, we got more boring crap about Rumours and the relationship.

Except for a thoughtful pause when Charlie asked about the relationship with Stevie, Lindsey just reiterated answers that he's given so many times before. It must be hard to force yourself to actually listen to the questions when you already know what they are going to be. Really, all you have to do is go into your mental repository of canned answers to get through the interview.

A missed opportunity for sure.

I agree. As much as I love Charlie Rose and his interview with Lindsey was better than anything we've seen in a long time, he did miss a lot of opportunities.

Charlie has a website with a message board and you can also email your thoughts to them. Maybe if FM gets nominated for a Grammy, he can have Lindsey back and get into some other more interesting subjects. I also felt that Lindsey was being a little too PC when it came to some questions. There were a few where he could have talked more openly about the state of the music business and he chose to go in another direction and take the easy way out. Did anyone else notice that?

I have to admit there was a surreal feeling about seeing Lindsey being interviewed without commercials for so long. I'm so used to those Dateline type interviews where he gets to answer one dumb question and then they splice in overdubbed video about the rehashed history of the band. It was a thrill to see 25 minutes of him. I kept looking at the clock and saying..there's 20 minutes left...there's 10 minutes left.

What happened to that Bravo show with the famous music reporter. He had Sheryl Crow, Randy Newman and some other good guests...is that show still around?

jwd

09-04-2003, 05:20 PM

Springsteen is playing Shea Stadium, The Stones were going to play China but cancelled due to SARS and you guys are playing Biloxi.

I think the whole gist of that comment was to say that "classic rockers" are still alive and kicking, plain and simple. Not a dig at FM or Biloxi. Lindsey pretty much responded that you don't have to burn out at a relatively young age in rock and roll. It's all about fine-tuning or honing your craft. You get better with practice and experience. And why should they stop because they're in their fifties? Hey and Linds became a daddy when he was in his late forties....he's unstoppable!! :laugh:

Joe

gldstwmn

09-04-2003, 05:24 PM

We hope!:)

Janet

09-04-2003, 05:31 PM

The 1984 interview with Charlie Rose is classic.

I remember Lindsey was totally talking about Stevie and just being semi evil about it. Back then he cared much less how he came off.

Now he must be polite etc. His wife must really be tired of hearing about Stevie.

I hope I get to catch this interview someday. It seems I miss everything :(

wondergirl9847

09-04-2003, 05:53 PM

You can download part one of the Lindsey/Charlie interview on burnish.net.

Merf

09-04-2003, 07:44 PM

Tracey now has the entire interview posted for those who haven't seen it.

www.burnish.net

sodascouts

09-04-2003, 10:51 PM

Cour

09-04-2003, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Janet
The 1984 interview with Charlie Rose is classic.

I remember Lindsey was totally talking about Stevie and just being semi evil about it. Back then he cared much less how he came off.

Now he must be polite etc. His wife must really be tired of hearing about Stevie.

I hope I get to catch this interview someday. It seems I miss everything :(

Ask around and maybe someone can make a copy for you of last night's show. You can also check Charlie's site as they have copies to buy but I'd bet someone can get you a copy and in the mean time Tracy has it up at Burnish.net. Thank you Tracy:)

Lindsey was in that agitated state he was in for all the Go Insane interviews. He was wired and almost twitching, talk about Lindsey at his weirdest. It was a great interview and Charlie was a fan back then too and knew about Lindsey's behind the scene's talents, when no one else seemed to care.

4Buck

09-05-2003, 12:06 AM

......I was surprised how whiney, swishy, gay-like Buckingham sounded when he was interviewed by Rose. Kinda like a classical musician. Was he like this in '84, too? He looks so macho on stage......

Nicks always sounds so butch in her interviews, quite mannish, actually. But on stage she looks feminine.

What good actors they both are......

I am really shocked........

Cour

09-05-2003, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by 4Buck
......I was surprised how whiney, swishy, gay-like Buckingham sounded when he was interviewed by Rose. Kinda like a classical musician. Was he like this in '84, too? He looks so macho on stage......

Nicks always sounds so butch in her interviews, quite mannish, actually. But on stage she looks feminine.

What good actors they both are......

I am really shocked........

Now there's a new take on Lindsey and Stevie,

I've never heard anyone say Lindsey was swishy gay-like and I have to admit I'm rolling about Stevie sounding butch.

Oh, in 84 he was actually quite agitated and twitchy, does that make him butch or gay swishy...not that there's anything wrong with that! LOL

4Buck

09-05-2003, 12:26 AM

...when Buck prolongs the syllables in his words it sounds effeminate to me.....like "yeah-es....." along with the excessive eye-blinking "packaged deal." He used to wear eye makeup I see, when only "questionable" musicians were wearing it. (Jagger, who slept with Bowie, etc.)

...when Nicks on the radio is sandwiched in between clear-voices of....let's say..Nora Jones and Faith Hill.....she sounds masculine...and ancient! In interviews for SAY YOU WILL she sounds mannish. Not just "alto," but "bass." She has an extremely low voice, rather than just deep and sexy.

Cour

09-05-2003, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by 4Buck
...when Buck prolongs the syllables in his words it sounds effeminate to me.....like "yeah-es....." along with the excessive eye-blinking "packaged deal." He used to wear eye makeup I see, when only "questionable" musicians were wearing it. (Jagger, who slept with Bowie, etc.)

...when Nicks on the radio is sandwiched in between clear-voices of....let's say..Nora Jones and Faith Hill.....she sounds masculine...and ancient! In interviews for SAY YOU WILL she sounds mannish. Not just "alto," but "bass." She has an extremely low voice, rather than just deep and sexy.

I didn't get any of that stuff. I thought Lindsey was more relaxed and happier than he's been in any other tv interview we've seen in a long time but I don't see him being anymore effeminate than he is normally. As for the makeup, I think it was meant as an artistic statement and was part of the entire look he was going for at that time with his clothes and hair. I don't understand, are you trying to say he's sleeping with other men because he was wearing eye makeup? I'm serious, I'm really confused by that analogy. BTW, he wears makeup now for his tv and stage appearances, but it's more subtle and most men in entertainment have to wear it.

As for Stevie, she's always had a deep voice and I only find it funny about refering to her as butch since she's considered and is so feminine and girly, it's hard to think of her as anything else but feminine

.

darklinensuit

09-05-2003, 02:07 AM

CarneVaca

09-05-2003, 08:02 AM

Another thread slips into the realm of the absurd.

I like Stevie's talking voice. It's never bothered me. As for Lindsey, he is disarmingly charming when he speaks. I'm sure he catches a lot of interviewers by surprise the first time. And if he wants to wear mascara again, go for it.

Les

09-05-2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Janet
The 1984 interview with Charlie Rose is classic.

I remember Lindsey was totally talking about Stevie and just being semi evil about it.

I totally disagree, actually. I don't think the interview was particularly good for a variety of reasons. One was that Lindsey was totally uncomfortable doing it via satellite, having to look into the camera lense in some remote studio rather than talk to Charlie face to face. It also wasn't very good because I didn't think Charlie was conducting a particularly good interview. He asked Lindsey several questions about Stevie, often interrupting Lindsey before Lindsey could finish an answer, but which Lindsey tried to answer fairly quickly and, as I recall, fairly diplomatically. Then Charlie threw out an -- "Aren't you jealous?!" -- question at him. I didn't think he was evil at all, despite the just plain rudeness of the question. He said Stevie worked very hard for her success and that, no, he wasn't particularly jealous because they both defined success differently and worked toward their own separate goals.

Just my memory of it.

sodascouts

09-05-2003, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Les
IThen Charlie threw out an -- "Aren't you jealous?!" -- question at him.

Really?! How lame! My respect for Charlie Rose just went down a notch.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

09-05-2003, 12:48 PM

Janet

09-05-2003, 01:28 PM

Hey Les,

I didn't mean that Lindsey WAS evil, he just was sly--I can't describe it. He had this evil grin most of the time I do remember that.

He described he and Stevie as great lovers but as competitors and when Rose asked if he was jealous, I honestly can't remember his answer.

Lindsey had every right to wear the expression he did, but now-a -days he would handle things so much differently.

I have alot of 1984 footage, most of it Lindsey just seems on edge and not terribly happy. The Pee Wee Big Top premiere he is happy but everything else he seems nervous and just tired of hearing the same thing...Stevie...Fleetwood Mac...and in one interview when they asked " any plans for FM" and he was like " none at all!" He was not amused.

He is a different man now and back then its just uneasy for ME to watch him be how he is --but its mostly understandable because he was going through alot.

I haven't seen this interview ( now I can---thanks, plus you can order the video for $30) but Im sure he just carries himself differently.

As for Stevie's "butch" voice, she still is ultra feminine. I mean she probably burps and makes noises like all of us, but as low as her voice maybe and as light hearted as her conversation can be, and as silly as she can get, I can't imagine her being crude, too much girlie in her!

dissention

09-05-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by sodascouts
Really?! How lame! My respect for Charlie Rose just went down a notch.

WHY? He had the gall to ask what other lame interviewers wouldn't ask. That's what I like about Charlie: he asks good questions and doesn't give a rats ass how the guest feels about the questions.

The interview from the other night wasn't particularly good, but it was a million times better than a ****ty "Did the success of Rumours catch you off-guard?" Dateline interview. It was a missed opportunity indeed.

As for Stevie being butch and Lindsey being feminine, 4buck has a problem with overanalyzing things. It's absurd and ridiculous and very off-putting to people who like posting. How pathetic. :rolleyes:

WindingRoad

09-05-2003, 10:01 PM

Is Kristen that popular? She is recognized in antique shops? When did she suddenly become a celebrity? She's just married to one. :shrug:

Lindsey gay and Stevie butch? Whoa! Talk about being out in right field! :rolleyes:

Oh, well, at least that was something I haven't heard expressed here before. After reading the 6 page slugfest on another thread, I needed a good laugh! :)

susieq :wavey:

cliffdweller

09-06-2003, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by 4Buck
......I was surprised how whiney, swishy, gay-like Buckingham sounded when he was interviewed by Rose. Kinda like a classical musician. Was he like this in '84, too? He looks so macho on stage......

Nicks always sounds so butch in her interviews, quite mannish, actually. But on stage she looks feminine.

What good actors they both are......

I am really shocked........

Funny how perspectives differ. Stevie is about as far from butch as one gets and Lindsey swishy? No, he's just a control -freak perfectionist who tends to come off a little tight-assed. We love him anyway though.

:wavey:

EricBliss12345

09-06-2003, 07:38 AM

Don't worry 4Buck. I got the same impression of him.

To be honest Lindsey kind of creeps me out. He reminds me of a weasel. I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about him I don't like. He comes across like he thinks hes God's gift to the music world, and that he did all the work in FM. Untrue or not, that's just the impression I got of him.

Plus, his hair is just like Kramer's. Somebody please take him to the barber to trim his nappy wheat-sack, please.

Enough of this. :laugh: Stevie butch? That's pushing it a little. She may have lost the top range of her voice but that hardly makes her un-feminine. If she were butch she'd be wearing army fatigues and have a crew cut and no makeup.

dissention

09-06-2003, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by EricBliss12345
Don't worry 4Buck. I got the same impression of him.

To be honest Lindsey kind of creeps me out. He reminds me of a weasel. I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something about him I don't like. He comes across like he thinks hes God's gift to the music world, and that he did all the work in FM. Untrue or not, that's just the impression I got of him.

Plus, his hair is just like Kramer's. Somebody please take him to the barber to trim his nappy wheat-sack, please.

Enough of this. :laugh: Stevie butch? That's pushing it a little. She may have lost the top range of her voice but that hardly makes her un-feminine. If she were butch she'd be wearing army fatigues and have a crew cut and no makeup.

Eric, a word to the wise:

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Les

09-06-2003, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Janet
He is a different man now and back then its just uneasy for ME to watch him be how he is --but its mostly understandable because he was going through alot.

Hey Janet,

Yeah, I know what you're saying. If you watch or listen to a lot of those interviews from 1984, especially compared to now, he was clearly not in the best place. Not that he was unpleasant or anything, but he was pretty tightly wound and visibly uncomfortable in his own skin at times. Strangely, I find that sort of thing all part of my obsession with that Go Insane album. It's just something sort of compelling about watching an intensely private and, at the time, unsettled person, doing his best to sell a deeply esoteric album to the masses. I don't exactly enjoy watching those interviews as much as I'm just fascinated with watching him try to deal with whatever was bubbling beneath the surface.

The fact that he appears to be in a much, much happier state now shows in everything he does.

glitter_fades

09-06-2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by WindingRoad
Is Kristen that popular? She is recognized in antique shops? When did she suddenly become a celebrity? She's just married to one. :shrug:

Lindsey gay and Stevie butch? Whoa! Talk about being out in right field! :rolleyes:

Oh, well, at least that was something I haven't heard expressed here before. After reading the 6 page slugfest on another thread, I needed a good laugh! :)

susieq :wavey:

If I remember Lindsey's comments on this...he said they were talking about Charlie just prior to her being at the antique shop. My guess is that Kristin recognized Charlie and approached him, not the other way around. She probably fawned all over him and told him who she was. Instead of playing press agent, or publicitst, she should moonlight as her man's wardrobe mistress or hairdresser. If he were my husband I'd never let him out in public the way he goes around. He's just too fine to be mistaken for a fag or a slob. There are other choices. Do we need to call in the FAB FIVE? :laugh:

WindingRoad

09-06-2003, 07:37 PM

OOOHHHH, if we called in the Fab Five, we'd get to see the inside of Lindsey's house! I suggest we all email the Fab 5 :laugh:

Also, I agree that Lindsey needs a haircut and some shirts. A haircut takes 10 minutes and he can send his assistant out to pick up a shirt. A good looking man like him shouldn't hide behind Fruit of the Loom.

susieq :wavey: