Anne Heche and Come

[dontlookdown]

http://www.american-webshop.com/books/0743424417

read the last paragraph then listen to Come.

[gldstwmn]

That certainly puts a different spin on it.

[gypsysara]

WOW, that is wild seeing it in black and white! :laugh:

I wonder if Miranda is about her too? "she's down for the count and finally out"

[shackin'up]

Can't bring her to orgasm?? There must be something wrong.. we only need the solo!!:D ;) ;)

[darklinensuit]

Is this real? Are you lafooning me?:D

- Jake

[tamaraluvsFM]

That is too funny! Frankly I can't imagine that he could not do it, as just watching his hands..gets..me.....lol...anyhow...
She went to Ellen after Lindsey right? I just shake my head at this. Oh well. To each his own.

Tamara:wavey:

[gypsysara]

Originally posted by tamaraluvsFM
She went to Ellen after Lindsey right?

She did? I dont follow her life/romances/multiple-personalities, so Im not sure. I thought it was Lou Diamond Phillips, although that may have just been her last husband, not necessarily lover.

[tamaraluvsFM]

Originally posted by gypsysara
She did? I dont follow her life/romances/multiple-personalities, so Im not sure. I thought it was Lou Diamond Phillips, although that may have just been her last husband, not necessarily lover.


Humm..I am not sure. I thought someone posted back that she went to her after him, but who knows and frankly I dont know why I posted it as who cares..lol. I guess I am having one of those pick at others lives instead of mine days..:D Just wondered if that was why she went the fem way as her feelings changed.

Tamara

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by gypsysara
WOW, that is wild seeing it in black and white! :laugh:

I wonder if Miranda is about her too? "she's down for the count and finally out"

I read Anne's book. She never said anything bad about Linds, but the chronology of events she describes shows LB didn't do much for her in the bedroom. After she dumps him she credits her next boyfriend for her first orgasm. Her reason for leaving LB was mostly along the lines of the relationship being all about him and she wasn't good at being what she termed a "groupie girlfriend" of a rock star. She said they had fun and she went to some tour shows (OOTC was at that time) but it wasn't a serious thing, apparently. Looks like they didn't live together, just dated a bit for about 9 months. She summed him up as just another 40-50ish older man trying to be 20 something by dating much younger women. Since Mrs. B. was 20 something when they got married, I guess Mrs. Lafoon had that right!

I'm still not sure Come is really about her. If it is then he's making fun of himself for being a flop in bed. I don't think that's it. The way I read it, he's talking about someone he's "had" who is not getting any from anyone right now. That sounds like somebody else. Wonder who? :eek:

On the other hand, after reading her book and the stuff about her father, I believe, without a doubt, Miranda is about Anne, no ifs ands or buts.

[tamaraluvsFM]

Originally posted by glitter_fades
I'm still not sure Come is really about her. If it is then he's making fun of himself for being a flop in bed. I don't think that's it. The way I read it, he's talking about someone he's "had" who is not getting any from anyone right now. That sounds like somebody else. Wonder who? :eek:

Your not the only one who thinks that. I wonder if he agreed to the anne thing jokingly to take the heat off someone else who sounds like this song is meant for?


On the other hand, after reading her book and the stuff about her father, I believe, without a doubt, Miranda is about Anne, no ifs ands or buts.

Interesting. I will have to listen to this again closely with her in mind. ;)

Tamara:wavey:

[Pisces Queen]

Originally posted by gypsysara
She did? I dont follow her life/romances/multiple-personalities, so Im not sure. I thought it was Lou Diamond Phillips, although that may have just been her last husband, not necessarily lover.

Melissa Etheridge lived with Lou's wife Julie Cypher. Melissa was working on some sorta video shot when she met Julie. Julie divorced Lou and shacked up with Melissa for about 10 years until she also decided she was no longer a lesbian and left Melissa.

[strandinthewind]

It is just so hard to keep all of these lesbians straight :eek:

Hey - wait a minute - sorry I just could not resist !!!!! :laugh: :laugh: ;)

Poor Anne/Celestia - at least they ( :laugh: ) have found happiness for the moment!

[sparky]

Uh-oh. The Lafoon specter rears it's ugly head again. While I have made my feelings about this particular character clear before(...blech !), I must add something. IMO, we all ought to take responsibility for our own orgasms. If somebody isn't doing it for you, tell them how. If they still don't do it, move on. Don't talk about how bad they were in the sack. How bad were you for not being able to instruct someone in the ways to make your eyes roll back in your head ?
And if your partner's Gender is the problem, well...who picked them ????

Sheesh, I have said enough !

Excuse the rant.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sparky
. . . we all ought to take responsibility for our own orgasms.

LMFAO - I just fell out of my chair laughing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Holy Anne Heche Lafoon!

[sulamith]

I agree with glitterfades about Come.
I said in another thread that LB would likely get beaned over the head with a tambo if he said it was about Stevie. Also, Lindsey has sung many a sexual song in his day, and NEVER from the point of view of him being no good in bed. He never doubts his sexual prowess, and.....one can assume Holy Anne Heche Laffon musta been having plenty of big O's with Ellen, so why would he say, "think of me when you don't come"? I just don't think he would make fun of himself like that, and Come is such a serious song.

The whole tone of Come is Lindsey saying to some woman, "You'll never have it this good again, babe. Go ahead, leave....you'll miss what I used to make you feel like!"

And, "Nobody else is doin' it" and "thought our harmony was the new harmony"? Please. Painfully obvious.

Hmmmm......no wonder there's no backing vocals from Miss Nicks on it. It hits a little tooooooo close to home for her, methinks!

;)!

-Sharon

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by tamaraluvsFM
Your not the only one who thinks that. I wonder if he agreed to the anne thing jokingly to take the heat off someone else who sounds like this song is meant for?

Tamara:wavey:

Yup. That's what I think. He said in a recent interview that his songmate refused to sing on that one song. Quite a bone of contention...seems to me. Why all the fuss if you're not taking it personally? :shocked: :eek:

[sulamith]

Exactly!
We were posting at the same time, and we said the same thing!
haha!
-Sharon

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by sulamith
Exactly!
We were posting at the same time, and we said the same thing!
haha!
-Sharon

:laugh: :laugh: Damn server! :laugh: :laugh:
No kidding, though. He's really going to admit this is about Stevie...yeah right! The Lafooning of it all is a big built in blinder for sure. Let em run with it and feed it out there yourself if ya have to...just keep the heat off! What else is he going to do after she refused to have anything to do with the song, and she's all afraid everyone will say it's about her? No, no, no...of course it's not about YOU! How absured! How could you think such a thing?... (GYOW...Silver Springs...Never Going Back...Dreams...cough, cough...etc.)? :lol:

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by sparky
Uh-oh. The Lafoon specter rears it's ugly head again. While I have made my feelings about this particular character clear before(...blech !), I must add something. IMO, we all ought to take responsibility for our own orgasms. If somebody isn't doing it for you, tell them how. If they still don't do it, move on. Don't talk about how bad they were in the sack. How bad were you for not being able to instruct someone in the ways to make your eyes roll back in your head ?
And if your partner's Gender is the problem, well...who picked them ????

Sheesh, I have said enough !

Excuse the rant.

Good rant. No excuses necessary. :laugh:

Seriously, I used to think the same about Lafoonie until I read her book. I see her very differently now. Her book explains a lot without her actually coming out and saying...here's the reason I did this...or here's the reason I went gay for a while...or LB didn't make me come. Ha! She never says things outright about how childhood abuse affected her horrible decision-making, but it's clear for any intelligent person to see what happened in the Ellen thing, with the Celestia stuff, and her journey into the desert to meet the space ship. None of it seems like such a joke after reading the book. I see where she was coming from and she seems quite intelligent being able to figure out everything about the past and trying to get over it. I admire her for working hard to overcome her demons.

[gypsysara]

LMAO! Thanks for the clarification Pisces ~ I cant keep my lesbian famous couples straight (no pun intended)...

I read that Stevie didnt want to do backup on Come cause it was so scream-ish. Not that she doesnt scream in say Rhiannon, but this song is soooo out there. Im looking forward to it live, but admittedly skip it cause its too loud for me.

Miranda though, IMO 100% about Anne.

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by gypsysara
LMAO! Thanks for the clarification Pisces ~ I cant keep my lesbian famous couples straight (no pun intended)...

I read that Stevie didnt want to do backup on Come cause it was so scream-ish. Not that she doesnt scream in say Rhiannon, but this song is soooo out there. Im looking forward to it live, but admittedly skip it cause its too loud for me.

Miranda though, IMO 100% about Anne.

I agree, 100%. Did you read her book, Stephanie? I did and agree with Lori on most of her song interpretation in the Lyrics Thread. Here's my post there:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=99700#post99700

[gypsysara]

No I didnt read her book, Im skipping Hillary's too, LOL!

But thanks for the thread... interesting reading it. Reminds me Ive been meaning to get over to that area of the Ledge! :)

[cliffdweller]

Seems like Lindsey's a sucker for kooky blondes with emotional problems: Stevie (back in her coked out days), Carol (from Tusk days) and Anne. What gives? I hope blonde number four can keep it together or else Lindsey seriously needs to switch to brunettes. Ha!!

:D :) :D

[wondergirl9847]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
I hope blonde number four can keep it together or else Lindsey seriously needs to switch to brunettes. Ha!!

:D :) :D

I'm RIGHT HERE if he decides to switch to brunettes!!!!!!!!! ;)

I'm not kooky, don't have emotional problems and I don't do drugs!!

:lol:

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I'm RIGHT HERE if he decides to switch to brunettes!!!!!!!!! ;)

I'm not kooky, don't have emotional problems and I don't do drugs!!

:lol:

Same here, so you'll just have to wait your turn. ME FIRST! :lol:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by glitter_fades
I read Anne's book. She never said anything bad about Linds, but the chronology of events she describes shows LB didn't do much for her in the bedroom. After she dumps him she credits her next boyfriend for her first orgasm. Her reason for leaving LB was mostly along the lines of the relationship being all about him and she wasn't good at being what she termed a "groupie girlfriend" of a rock star. She said they had fun and she went to some tour shows (OOTC was at that time) but it wasn't a serious thing, apparently. Looks like they didn't live together, just dated a bit for about 9 months. She summed him up as just another 40-50ish older man trying to be 20 something by dating much younger women. Since Mrs. B. was 20 something when they got married, I guess Mrs. Lafoon had that right!

I'm still not sure Come is really about her. If it is then he's making fun of himself for being a flop in bed. I don't think that's it. The way I read it, he's talking about someone he's "had" who is not getting any from anyone right now. That sounds like somebody else. Wonder who? :eek:

On the other hand, after reading her book and the stuff about her father, I believe, without a doubt, Miranda is about Anne, no ifs ands or buts.


I still think Come is about Anne and partially about Stevie too because as Sharon and a few others have said, he's not going to openly admit to that unless he wants a reebok platform shoved up his ass. He's a smart man for that.

Miranda is MOST DEFINATELY about Anne IMO.
"she never comes she always goes"--yes folks, I think he's talking about the same kind of "come"

"She sees her face in another magazine And the walls all close in as the fancy takes flight Can't stand to be loved but she loves to be seen"--that's Anne Heche right there...she doesn't want to be loved because she doesn't feel deserving of it due to her past. However, she LOVES and CRAVES attention.

There's my two cents for the day. Oh, and to whomever said we only need to hear him play *HIGH FIVE*...WORD. :laugh: As my little profile thing says, I FEEL THE FEVER :nod:

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
I'm RIGHT HERE if he decides to switch to brunettes!!!!!!!!! ;)

I'm not kooky, don't have emotional problems and I don't do drugs!!

:lol:

ME TOO!!! I have blonde highlights so Lindsey, you might dig that...you'd get the best of both worlds and get this...i'm 19! You like em' young, right?? LMAO! :laugh:

We always forget about Cheri Caspari whom my friend Meredith tells me he was with for quite a few years. If memory serves, she wasn't blonde so there's hope for all of us dark haired beauties :laugh:

[cliffdweller]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
[B]I still think Come is about Anne and partially about Stevie too because as Sharon and a few others have said, he's not going to openly admit to that unless he wants a reebok platform shoved up his ass. He's a smart man for that.

Hilarious, Reebok platform! I'm sure it's happened before and if it hasn't it will before this tour is over!

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
[B]I still think Come is about Anne and partially about Stevie too because as Sharon and a few others have said, he's not going to openly admit to that unless he wants a reebok platform shoved up his ass. He's a smart man for that.

Hilarious, Reebok platform! I'm sure it's happened before and if it hasn't it will before this tour is over!

Let's hope she's saving it for us in AZ :nod:

Then both families can get a good look and close photo op!

Freeze...hold that pose! Thanks guys! That'll look great in the Buckingham and Nicks family albums. :lol:

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by gypsysara
She did? I dont follow her life/romances/multiple-personalities, so Im not sure. I thought it was Lou Diamond Phillips, although that may have just been her last husband, not necessarily lover.

Side note: Lou's ex wife Julie is Melissa Etheridge's ex, isn't she?

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
It is just so hard to keep all of these lesbians straight :eek:

Hey - wait a minute - sorry I just could not


Don't you mean former lesbians?:cool:

[gypsysara]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Don't you mean former lesbians?:cool:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Cant keep em straight! ;)

PS - Lindsey, Im brunette if you change your mind... however am MARRIED too, ah oh-well Im no fun I guess LOL!

[seteca]

There's no way Come is ONLY about Anne Heche.....I think it's about many different people, rolled into one song...(Stevie-style.)

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

[Mad4stevie]

Originally posted by sulamith

Hmmmm......no wonder there's no backing vocals from Miss Nicks on it. It hits a little tooooooo close to home for her, methinks!

;)!

-Sharon


I thought I heard somewhere that Stevie thought the song was "dirty" and was disgusted by it (whether she was the topic, or not). She certainly high-tails it off the stage when it is time for this song. It's like she can't get off the stage fast enough!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally posted by Mad4stevie
I thought I heard somewhere that Stevie thought the song was "dirty" and was disgusted by it (whether she was the topic, or not). She certainly high-tails it off the stage when it is time for this song. It's like she can't get off the stage fast enough!

"You're right Lindsey....*sigh*...no, nobody else is doing it"

LMAO!!!! I think she secretly likes the song ;)

[sparky]

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
he's not going to openly admit to that unless he wants a reebok platform shoved up his ass. He's a smart man for that.



Priceless. Perhaps the tambourine first, then the platform, then whatever else Stevie could grab. She'd be headed for Mick's bongo drum as security carted her away !

[DownOnRodeo]

The Curse of Anne Heche Lafoon! :mad:
I just finally finished the Come interpretation!
I don't know if I can stomach having to rework it to fashion in this particular revalation! :(
Please head to the Lyric Interp board now to have your say if you think it needs ammending.:wavey:

[sparky]

Originally posted by glitter_fades
Seriously, I used to think the same about Lafoonie until I read her book. I see her very differently now...I see where she was coming from and she seems quite intelligent being able to figure out everything about the past and trying to get over it. I admire her for working hard to overcome her demons.

Well, glitter_fades, I seem to recall either reading an excerpt of this book, or maybe it was just the babawawa interview that sticks in my head...either way, there is some background info in my brain somewhere about all of this.

It is fascinating to understand why people do what they do. Frankly, I usually find the Why far more interesting than the What. I think I just hit celebrity victim overload a few years ago. While I see the angle that many famous people take in spilling thier guts - it will help someone else - it makes me highly suspicious when the tell all books dovetail with record releases, movie openings, and the like. There's something distasteful about
the tone of some of the things. I'm hardly offended, my reaction is more like amazement that people will do something so undignified...hooray for fixing the damage, but who does it really serve to share the horrific personal details with the world ? Always someone, I suppose. On the other hand, hearing about Stevie's drug and weight dramas didn't bother me. It didn't seem like she was doing it either for the publicity or the pity party. Or maybe I am talking out my ass and I just want to hear about tragedies from the people I like !

Either way, thanks for you Holy A.H.L. perspective !

[go6car]

All I know is if I got to be with Lindsey, I would have had NO issues, whatsoever, LOL! (sigh.)

And, if it really was true about his, um, technique, I hardly think Stevie would have stuck around for 10+ years with him!

:laugh:

[glitter_fades]

Originally posted by sparky
Well, glitter_fades, I seem to recall either reading an excerpt of this book, or maybe it was just the babawawa interview that sticks in my head...either way, there is some background info in my brain somewhere about all of this.

It is fascinating to understand why people do what they do. Frankly, I usually find the Why far more interesting than the What. I think I just hit celebrity victim overload a few years ago. While I see the angle that many famous people take in spilling thier guts - it will help someone else - it makes me highly suspicious when the tell all books dovetail with record releases, movie openings, and the like. There's something distasteful about
the tone of some of the things. I'm hardly offended, my reaction is more like amazement that people will do something so undignified...hooray for fixing the damage, but who does it really serve to share the horrific personal details with the world ? Always someone, I suppose. On the other hand, hearing about Stevie's drug and weight dramas didn't bother me. It didn't seem like she was doing it either for the publicity or the pity party. Or maybe I am talking out my ass and I just want to hear about tragedies from the people I like !

Either way, thanks for you Holy A.H.L. perspective !

Oh yeah, I hear ya. I'm sick of the "everybody's a victim" and "lets air our dirty laundry" stuff, too. I'm also a little suspicious that her revelations about herself came through use of LSD therapy. Flashbacks, together with a little false memory syndrome? Perhaps??? On the other hand, too many things ring true. Her father did die of AIDS back when nobody knew much about it. He was known in the NYC gay community among the celebrity hangers on, and that's been corroborated by other celebrities who didn't know he was her father or that he had a family. He was a closeted queen with a secret gay life. I also believe nobody willingly admits to years of incest for the sake of selling books, movies, or records. Admitting incest still isn't chic the way owning up to years of drug abuse followed by a recovery stint at the Betty Ford Center is. I'm probably talking out of my ass, too, so it's time to put a sock in it...or maybe a platform Reebok is called for?

[sulamith]

Oh, go6car, hee hee...

Stevie ALWAYS comes.

I'm sure of it.

Otherwise, why would he continue to be so "inspirational" to her?

That musta been some hot stuff! ;)!!!!

-Sharon

[go6car]

I hear ya, LOL!:D ;)