Petition Against Internet Fan Club Fraud [Archive]

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
Well, I didn't join the club so I am not actually "one of the scammed" but I would like to see things shaped up. So can/should I still sign (given these circumstances)?

John

Yes, I think that it is appropriate because you are the target market for the fan club and a possible fan club member and for you to want these issues answered so that you can make a join or not decision, is applicable...so I say yes. I tried to word it as "fans of fleetwood mac and fan club members" so that you can all do it.

:nod:

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by gypsysara
DONE. Thanks for setting that up, ideal and quick for online-fans.

You are very welcome. I plan to run it to the end of June, but, may end it sooner. The recipients of the petition will be the individual managers and the promotion company.

wetcamelfood

05-28-2003, 12:36 PM

Done. Thanks. :)

John

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 02:00 PM

bump

tamaraluvsFM

05-28-2003, 03:11 PM

I did my part! Everyone do yours now....
Oh and BUMP :D

Tamara :wavey:

glitter_fades

05-28-2003, 03:51 PM

Well done! Someone should have thought of this a long time ago! Way to go PEACE!

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 04:53 PM

I have to say that I am so happy and quite surprised by the number of ppl signing the petition and it is not slowing down at all. Thank you all so much. I do not particularily like the site, though. It is buggy and I cannot set it to allow you to see who has signed. There was another site that did allow that and it was not working. So, if I can pay the fee for prem service, and get that feature, I will. You have to email them to get it...Whatever.. But, so that you know, we closing in on 100 signatures really fast. Thank you and spread the word..

gypsysara

05-28-2003, 05:12 PM

We should do our part to ensure this thread is at the top for a while so anyone just cruising along can look in and get to the petition. Too bad it cant be "locked" like the others.

Thank you again Peace, that is a great thing of you to set it up and notify everyone.

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 05:22 PM

Thank you again Peace, that is a great thing of you to set it up and notify everyone.

You are so welcome...I just hope that it doesn't fall on deaf ears..

Wldhrt315

05-28-2003, 07:00 PM

Bump! Thank you!:)

gypsysara

05-28-2003, 07:11 PM

Peace, can you check the last (2nd) link you posted? I went there to re-register but it wouldnt work...

thanks for checking it out!

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by gypsysara
Peace, can you check the last (2nd) link you posted? I went there to re-register but it wouldnt work...

thanks for checking it out!

I changed it again...see if that one works for you..I am so sorry.

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/FireJT/

Ok..I am losing it here. I had to go back to the original one and I am editing this post to reflect that as well as all the rest...ty guys..

gypsysara

05-28-2003, 07:50 PM

Well, Seek - that's IT!

Give me 20 push-ups, NOW!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 08:23 PM

Can you guys see the list of the ppl on the new site? I cannot get that to open for me, I only get the number....damn...is driving me crazy!!!

seeknpeace

05-28-2003, 10:31 PM

Because the second host for the petition was just not working at all, I have ::sigh:: gone back to the first one again. I will move the signers to the first one who signed on the second one, but, if you want to move it you can. I will compare and not dup on the first one. I have changed the urls to it in this thread for all the other posts.

Here is the correct, and final, one:

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/FireJT/

glitter_fades

05-29-2003, 02:16 AM

I must say, I'm shocked at how many signed in such a short period of time.

:blob1:

Gypsy-Rhiannon

05-29-2003, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by glitter_fades
I must say, I'm shocked at how many signed in such a short period of time.

:blob1:
I'm not shocked at all

ivorymorning

05-29-2003, 03:43 AM

I signed.

Thank you to the people who are spearheading this campaign, for putting yourselves out and spreading the word.

I'm just happy to do what I can to support you.

Rachel:wavey:

blackdove

05-29-2003, 08:17 AM

I signed up too...and added my comments :)

I hope this really takes off and then you'll see just how many people are p***ed off with this 'man' (I feel sick to call him that because we all know from his behaviour that he is no 'man' at all!!!)

Love and happiness from Sarah

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by blackdove
I signed up too...and added my comments :)

I hope this really takes off and then you'll see just how many people are p***ed off with this 'man' (I feel sick to call him that because we all know from his behaviour that he is no 'man' at all!!!)

Love and happiness from Sarah

Thank you so much for your support and I have to say that we are at 200 signatures in less than a day...in like 18 hours. I am so amazed at all the names that have popped of who I have never heard of. Goes to show that there are a ton of ppl out there who are reading and watching but, not posting perhaps. And, willing to take a stand. Thank you all. I think that they thought only the "ten or so troublemakers" would be there to sign.

blackdove

05-29-2003, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
Thank you so much for your support and I have to say that we are at 200 signatures in less than a day...in like 18 hours. I am so amazed at all the names that have popped of who I have never heard of. Goes to show that there are a ton of ppl out there who are reading and watching but, not posting perhaps. And, willing to take a stand. Thank you all. I think that they thought only the "ten or so troublemakers" would be there to sign.

I'm so pleased to hear that this is taking off big style!

I was a member a Mick's board from more or less the start but stopped going there not long after I joined (yawn!) and only posted about 4 or 5 times. I went there last to post up the link to Pip's e-mail thread here as a news item there and also attached it to a few other non-related posts too, hee hee :) .

You would not believe how fast I was kicked out..it took all of 15 or 20 mins. Like I could care anyways :laugh:

Love and happiness from Sarah (One of Pip's Fireflies).

Bella Figura

05-29-2003, 09:02 AM

I signed the petition yesterday and used my real name so Seeknpeace, maybe that's why you don't recognize some of the names...

have a great day!!! :)

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Bella Figura
I signed the petition yesterday and used my real name so Seeknpeace, maybe that's why you don't recognize some of the names...

have a great day!!! :)

probably so, but, there are like 190 names so there are a lot of ppl who I hope to get to know some day...wonderful support..

shackin'up

05-29-2003, 10:47 AM

Well I signed under my real name, too. Maybe some of the ledgies can gather before the shows in OKC and Dallas, that I am attending.

gerald

jools

05-29-2003, 11:50 AM

Hi all,

Im back home from a week of work.
I have just happily signed the petition.

I hope that this brings some answers and action

Julian

glitter_fades

05-29-2003, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by shackin'up
Well I signed under my real name, too. Maybe some of the ledgies can gather before the shows in OKC and Dallas, that I am attending.

gerald

Yes, I did too. To be taken seriously, we should all be willing to sign our correct names. Todd has all that info anyway and it's no big secret them finding out.

Tango

05-29-2003, 01:27 PM

And I encourage my other on line friends to sign. You need not put your address and email on it. Last thing we all need is more SPAM in our diets. I think they'll recognize my name. I wrote an email right after the first presale. I was not "happy." (Mr. Todd claimed he had THOUSANDS of happy emails from satisfied customers. THOUSANDS. ) :laugh:

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Tango
And I encourage my other on line friends to sign. You need not put your address and email on it. Last thing we all need is more SPAM in our diets. I think they'll recognize my name. I wrote an email right after the first presale. I was not "happy." (Mr. Todd claimed he had THOUSANDS of happy emails from satisfied customers. THOUSANDS. ) :laugh:

This should not cause any problems with spam. They have a privacy statement that says no one will get your information.

We are up to about 215 now

bigmac

05-29-2003, 01:58 PM

Wow, 215, a lot more people are signing the petition than are registering for that cheap, crappy, record store, notebook size, promo picture that Mick signed. And I wonder how many emails he sent out about it to try and get a huge response to make him look good.

BTW, I may have signed it twice (there was a lot of confussion last night). Hope its not a problem. Still 214 very respectful.

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by bigmac
Wow, 215, a lot more people are signing the petition than are registering for that cheap, crappy, record store, notebook size, promo picture that Mick signed. And I wonder how many emails he sent out about it to try and get a huge response to make him look good.

BTW, I may have signed it twice (there was a lot of confussion last night). Hope its not a problem. Still 214 very respectful.

No, not a problem. I am catching them as I go along and deleting the extra one, so the 215 is probably a good number...

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 04:50 PM

We are up to 228 signatures on the petition. Thank you all. I will try to keep you up to date on it as the site will not let you see the signatures or who signed.

Thank you so so so :wavey:

seeknpeace

05-29-2003, 08:33 PM

We are closing in on 260 signatures now!! Thank you all for spreading the word. The ten trouble makers from Micks sight sure are able to blind ppl huh? NOT.

glitter_fades

05-29-2003, 09:58 PM

You go girl!

You were right.

Loads of people have heard the call and are answering with support.

Wonderful!

seeknpeace

05-30-2003, 11:56 AM

Wow....now this is great. I wanted to be sure that you all saw this and to whoever did this, thank you so much.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/boards/main.jhtml/fleetwood_mac/ViewThread?tID=339477&mID=1717352&offset=0&index=0

gypsysara

05-30-2003, 02:20 PM

NICE!

The more exposure, the better for the cause!

Power to the PEOPLE!

Gypsy

05-30-2003, 04:03 PM

Bumpety, bumpety, bump.

Cheers.

Miranda

05-30-2003, 05:33 PM

This seems like a good way to get at the truth. :thumbsup:

sarabelladonna1

05-30-2003, 09:21 PM

I sent an Email to every one who is in my email campaign around 100 or so.. we are getting the word out for sure!!! And it looks as though its getting better by the min.Dreams.....

glitter_fades

05-30-2003, 10:14 PM

Good idea! I think I'll send the link out to my address book. Not all of my pals are music fans, but some are, and have already heard about the fan club crap, as well as the lawsuit on the Dixie Chicks fan club. Some of them told me about the Chicks' lawsuit. I think they'll be quite supportive.

disEnchanted

05-31-2003, 12:42 AM

where do i sign

Gypsy-Rhiannon

05-31-2003, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by disEnchanted
where do i sign
http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/FireJT/

seeknpeace

05-31-2003, 01:47 PM

Things that go BUMP in the night...

Gypsy

05-31-2003, 05:07 PM

Bump.

FM Fans vs. Jonathan Todd:

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/duel.gif

Gypsy-Rhiannon

05-31-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy
Bump.

FM Fans vs. Jonathan Todd:

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/duel.gif
Love the smilies!!

Pip

Miranda

05-31-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy
Bump.

FM Fans vs. Jonathan Todd:

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/duel.gif

This is so cute.

seeknpeace

05-31-2003, 11:29 PM

Well, we are at 300 on our petition now...keep up the good work spreading the word and I thank you all for wanting to just know the truth.

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/FireJT/

highpriestess53

06-01-2003, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
You are so welcome...I just hope that it doesn't fall on deaf ears..

It won't I am sure......;)

highpriestess53

06-01-2003, 03:25 PM

BUT BUMP

Gypsy

06-01-2003, 05:04 PM

BUMP.

(Just an excuse to post my portrayal of " 'The Knight'-Unmasked!!!") :

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/bud.gif

Heh, heh.

seeknpeace

06-01-2003, 09:17 PM

Just a report that we have now broken through 300 on the petition (s), and I want to again thank you all. If you could please continue to pass the word along and try to be sure that as many ppl as you can at least see this so that they have the option to sign or not, that would be wonderful.

I expected it to slow down like it has but, 20-30 a day ain't bad...and it may get slower. When it starts to creep, Iwill pull it and make sure that it gets to the different management teams, the promotion company and also to another person that we have made contact with who is now making sure that things are going directly to Mick. NO more around the edges with it. This was a great development and we are really more hopeful.

Also, I want to say that I am not angry, but, determined to get answers, and ultimately I want JT removed from power. He has abused that power and broken trust with the band and with the fans. Note to self....do not take a job working for someone then engage in a war with the ppl who feed your boss. Just a funny...I never needed that note. Which is another thing. I am in the business to make ppl happy and have to bend and give and smile when I do not want to from time to time and if there is a problem with a client, I am there to fix it pronto. Maybe that is another reason this is all so unacceptable to me. Nite guys..:wavey:

msLinds

06-01-2003, 10:36 PM

Bump again. LOL

:wavey: :wavey:

seeknpeace

06-02-2003, 05:31 PM

310 and counting. I will pull it if it slows anymore and fax it to management.

glitter_fades

06-02-2003, 10:24 PM

Give it a little more time. Has it been up a week yet?

It's doing great!

seeknpeace

06-03-2003, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by glitter_fades
Give it a little more time. Has it been up a week yet?

It's doing great!

I am thinking bout sending it on to management via fax today and telling them that it is still running...what do you think?:cool:

Gypsy-Rhiannon

06-03-2003, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
I am thinking bout sending it on to management via fax today and telling them that it is still running...what do you think?:cool:
I think that would be a good idea

gypsysara

06-03-2003, 12:35 PM

bumpety-bump bump...

glitter_fades

06-03-2003, 03:59 PM

Send it to them anytime, but DON'T take it down! Can't we just keep adding to what's there now?

That would be my method. :nod:

seeknpeace

06-03-2003, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by glitter_fades
Send it to them anytime, but DON'T take it down! Can't we just keep adding to what's there now?

That would be my method. :nod:

Yep, that is what I think too...I can fax it to the perspective management, like tomorrow...it is now 26 pages...that will catch their attention coming in on their fax machines...:laugh: :laugh:

glitter_fades

06-03-2003, 04:14 PM

Please use a cover letter with your signature line, too. I love the SAY YOU WILL not cheat the fans...it says it all.

Gypsy

06-04-2003, 12:20 AM

Bumpety-bump.

ivorymorning

06-04-2003, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
...it is now 26 pages...that will catch their attention coming in on their fax machines...:laugh: :laugh:

Better call first and tell them to refill the paper tray :D

Rachel :D

glitter_fades

06-04-2003, 08:05 PM

I agree, a FAX might not get anywhere. I'd send a paper copy with signature confirmation...if possible. I know that's a lot of paper, and postage at a big expense, but I'd be glad to help with the costs.

seeknpeace

06-04-2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by glitter_fades
I agree, a FAX might not get anywhere. I'd send a paper copy with signature confirmation...if possible. I know that's a lot of paper, and postage at a big expense, but I'd be glad to help with the costs.

To be honest, I probably will do both. I just have not had a second to breathe...:confused:

glitter_fades

06-04-2003, 09:18 PM

Take a breath! You deserve it. :nod: :D

Gypsy-Rhiannon

06-05-2003, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
To be honest, I probably will do both. I just have not had a second to breathe...:confused:
I for one totally a[ppreciate all your efforts on this :)

Pip

enibs78

06-07-2003, 10:45 PM

I have a question about the petition. It covers a bunch of topics but never really says what we want the result to be. Do we want the result to be just that JT gets fired? Is it more than that? I think sometimes it's best to keep the goal focused and simple. If the goal is to get rid of JT, I think we should just say that. This sounds like a good goal to me.

Miranda

06-08-2003, 01:06 AM

I thought the goal was to have a full investigation of the fan club? Not just to get rid of the guy in charge. Maybe I didn't read things right. Just getting him out would not bring answers to the list of questions raised about the ticket sale, the whole fan club operation, and all the other things in the petition.

highpriestess53

06-08-2003, 01:44 AM

seeknpeace

06-08-2003, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by enibs78
I have a question about the petition. It covers a bunch of topics but never really says what we want the result to be. Do we want the result to be just that JT gets fired? Is it more than that? I think sometimes it's best to keep the goal focused and simple. If the goal is to get rid of JT, I think we should just say that. This sounds like a good goal to me.

There is no way to get JT fired without exposing the problems and getting questions answered. You can't just have a petition that says, "We want JT fired". You have to have a reason. SOME of the reasons are outlined in the petition, but, there are many more. But, read the petition, it plainly states that we want him removed from any affiliation with the club or the sites.

Also, because of the lies and inconsistencies of the club, there have been many ppl who would have joined and have not. The petition needed to be worded so that not only current members can sign, but, those would be members and also all of the fan community, as they love the band and this has been a major disappointment.

You have to have reasons to have the man fired.

seeknpeace

06-08-2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Miranda
I thought the goal was to have a full investigation of the fan club? Not just to get rid of the guy in charge. Maybe I didn't read things right. Just getting him out would not bring answers to the list of questions raised about the ticket sale, the whole fan club operation, and all the other things in the petition.

Here is the petition. All of the things are in here....read paragragh two...that is our goal.

To: East End Management, Immortal Records Attn: Carl Stubner, HK Management, Mitch Snyder Promotions

We are fans of Fleetwood Mac. We want to stand together and let our voices be heard regarding the Fleetwood Mac official fan club, the Fleetwood Mac official Web site (www.fleetwoodmac.com) and the Mick Fleetwood official Web site (www.mickfleetwood.com), which is operated by Jonathan Todd of Sabre Mark.

We feel that we have been misled, mistreated, mishandled and disrespected by the administrators of these organizations, and are calling for an investigation of Sabre Mark in order to remove Jonathan Todd and Sabre Mark from any continued affiliation with the sites and the fan club.

We are calling for an accounting of the use of our funds, collected as official fan club membership fees, and want to know whether these funds were used to transport administrative staff of the fan club-affiliated organizations to the Fleetwood Mac rehearsals held in Los Angeles in April 2003, and whether that affiliation resulted in their attendance at these rehearsals. In addition, we want to know whether funds from the fan club either paid for the transportation to and from the event or reimbursed the administrative staff for their expenses, including seating arrangements at the any of the Fleetwood Mac tour performances.

We believe that Jonathan Todd has not been forthcoming with information as to the number of members in the official fan club, as to how many actual seats were made available at the tour venues for the arranged presales through TicketMaster, and as to what our actual seating options were. We want proof that Sabre Mark did indeed provide us with the "best 20 percent seating on the floor, closest," as we were told in solicitation e-mail messages from Jonathan Todd to official fan club members.

We want to register our concerns and unanswered complaints that Jonathan Todd chose to use our screen names as our presale passwords, which might have allowed anyone access to our fan club presale seats. It is a great concern to us that more than 900 seats went on sale on eBay, shortly after our first presale began.

Sincerely,

glitter_fades

06-08-2003, 08:43 PM

I'm still not sure complaining to managment is the answer, but the petition is a good way to document the fact that a lot more than one or two fans have concerns and are unhappy with the fan club.

Some members are meeting resistance to credit card disputes. The petiton gives another source of information for the credit card companies, besides the emails and happy club threads being "created" by the fan club.

Anyone have one of those membership cards we supposedly got for our money? Didn't think so. The fan club is telling credit companies we got cards, so anyone who's got one, please post a picture so the rest of us can see what they look like. Haaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaa! :laugh:

Gypsy

06-09-2003, 09:36 PM

Let's see if my avatar works, bwahahaha.
No, I'm not keeping it, just thought I'd have a little fun, is all, since it's the first time I've ever played with having an avatar on this board.
Sorry if I made some of y'all feel like pukin' :-(
I'll take it down soon....after I have a little fun with it, heh, heh.

seeknpeace

06-09-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy
Let's see if my avatar works, bwahahaha.
No, I'm not keeping it, just thought I'd have a little fun, is all, since it's the first time I've ever played with having an avatar on this board.
Sorry if I made some of y'all feel like pukin' :-(
I'll take it down soon....after I have a little fun with it, heh, heh.

Hilarious girl...I love it. I used it on Micks board...he had a fit. Was the beginning of my demise there, I must say. Worth it totally. He is so handsome, huh? gagaroni:laugh: :laugh:

Gypsy

06-09-2003, 09:52 PM

Oh that was YOU, was it? I heard somebody used his pic as their avatar and was promptly excommunicated from the board.
http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/ban.gif

I really wish I could have had a little fun with the pic, as I really wanted to be a little silly and draw a pair of devil horns and a goatee on him. Sadly, I used Microsoft Photo Editor, which does not permit that luxury, *sigh*.
Very childish, I admit, but a girl's gotta get her kicks now and again, eh? At least I'm not hittin' the crack pipe...you know, like I usually do...http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/kos.gif

Dear God, I can get so silly sometimes.....

seeknpeace

06-09-2003, 10:02 PM

At least I'm not hittin' the crack pipe...you know, like I usually do...

bwwaaaahahahahaha..hey, I used HIS avatar on another site and put a turban on it's head, and a scythe (sp) in his hand like the grim reaper..hehehe...He just makes me want to vomit. He is vomitus imo...:laugh: :nod: :laugh:

Gypsy

06-09-2003, 10:18 PM

I have decided to be more serious...http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/crazy.gif (yeah, right!)
and have forsaken my Vomitus Knightus avatar for one of my beloved kitty. Taa-daa.
You have to post the pic of Knightus Turbanus when you get the chance, seeknpeace.

Cheers,
Gypsy

How Fleetwood Mac fans react when they've been f*$#ed with:

http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/croc.gif

seeknpeace

06-10-2003, 03:57 AM

How do you get your smiley gifs in the body of your post? And, to use the avatar, could you do that from your hard drive? On Micks site, I had to like send it to Sararhiannon to host it for me, I could not do it directly from my hard drive...how did you do it? Then I can send Mr. Vomitus...

seeknpeace

06-10-2003, 04:07 AM

Or, hows bout this? We were all destarred over there...

gypsysara

06-10-2003, 01:27 PM

LMAO Gypsy on the "banned" avatar... I think I needed some 'depends' after I saw that one! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I love the kitty though!

glitter_fades

06-10-2003, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by gypsysara
LMAO Gypsy on the "banned" avatar... I think I needed some 'depends' after I saw that one! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I love the kitty though!

Bummer! I guess I missed it. :shrug:

gypsysara

06-10-2003, 03:38 PM

No, its still there Glitter...

Look up above...

on "Gypsy"'s posts... she has the cute kitty avatar I was referencing... and she also did the "banned" smilies that's hysterical!

glitter_fades

06-10-2003, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by gypsysara
No, its still there Glitter...

Look up above...

on "Gypsy"'s posts... she has the cute kitty avatar I was referencing... and she also did the "banned" smilies that's hysterical!

I see the kitty. I was talking about the one she had before kitty.

Gypsy

06-10-2003, 07:40 PM

...was of the real-life "Knight" from Mick's board. I decided to replace it w/a pic of my kitty, but once you replace your avatar, the board goes back and replaces the avatar in all of your old posts, which is why you can no longer see the Knight pic.

Seeknpeace, I don't know why you can't use an avatar from your hard drive. I saved the pic of JT from his website to my hard drive, cropped it, and reduced the pixel size so the Ledge would accept it, then went into my Ledge profile and supplied the link to my hard drive for the avatar.
And there are many websites that have free animated smilies you can use in either the body of a board post or in emails. I have, as you may be able to tell, become rather addicted to them..
Here is one of my personal faves:

http://www.spacespider.net/emo/toilet002.gif

Thanks for the SUPAFAAAAAN, snp, and thanks for the 'depends' comment, gypsysara, that's the best compliment you can give a smiley user, heh, heh...http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/bis.gif

Love,
Gypsy
(Don' mess wit da supafans, Knight!..... )
http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/spezial/Fool/box2.gif

gypsysara

06-10-2003, 07:58 PM

Ah I was nearly peeing my pants when I saw that! LOL!

I was banned after ONE post on Mick's www site... so I was LAUGHING cause I was thinking "Well I could have used that avatar and gone out in a blaze of GLORY!" LOLOL!

Awesome graphics Gypsy!

Love to those that Remain!

seeknpeace

06-10-2003, 11:27 PM

can you see my avatar now? I put my knight one up...see, when I did that on Micks site, from my hard drive, I could see it when I looked at it but, others could now...weird huh? Such a world class site there,.:blob2: :blob1:

seeknpeace

06-12-2003, 12:19 PM

Just giving a bump to this topic...:wavey:

Tango

06-13-2003, 10:14 AM

Early on Mr. Todd suggested there were only a handful of "trouble makers" who were "unhappy" with the happenings in the fan club, and he had "thousands" of happy fan club emails following the first presale. So what's the current petition tote???

http://www.mdausa.org/images/qpix/q55teltote.jpg

Thank you Seeknpeace for pushing on. :)

Gypsy-Rhiannon

06-13-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Tango
Early on Mr. Todd suggested there were only a handful of "trouble makers" who were "unhappy" with the happenings in the fan club, and he had "thousands" of happy fan club emails following the first presale. So what's the current petition tote???

http://www.mdausa.org/images/qpix/q55teltote.jpg

Thank you Seeknpeace for pushing on. :)
Someone has posted on Mick's board that they were told by the fan club that they had over 7000 happy members!!

jools

06-13-2003, 11:47 AM

hi all,

Just got back from be away from home all week.

Not sure if this is the right place to post, but

I am getting emails from'Mick Fleetwood.com' regarding new offers even though i am banned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone else had this ??

Julian

seeknpeace

06-13-2003, 12:39 PM

I am getting emails from'Mick Fleetwood.com' regarding new offers even though i am banned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lord Yes...hahaha...he wants to sell you things and so forth but, not let you participate in the chats. I wonder what he plans to do with all of us unhappy troublemakers who are club members IF he ever starts a chat at the fan club. He woud have some legal issues banning us from there but, holding our money...
:blob2:

gypsysara

06-13-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by jools
I am getting emails from'Mick Fleetwood.com' regarding new offers even though i am banned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone else had this ??

YES. And I think its lame, heck just BAN me altogether than to send me soliciting for MONEY emails!!!

Josh2003

06-13-2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by seeknpeace
Lord Yes...hahaha...he wants to sell you things and so forth but, not let you participate in the chats. I wonder what he plans to do with all of us unhappy troublemakers who are club members IF he ever starts a chat at the fan club. He woud have some legal issues banning us from there but, holding our money...
:blob2:

It's obvious that that is why the "Fan Club" chat hasn't been launched yet. He probably has no idea how to handle the inevitable.

Oh it's times like that which make me wish I had joined the club...just so I can see what might go down there :-)

seeknpeace

06-14-2003, 12:12 PM

Oh it's times like that which make me wish I had joined the club...just so I can see what might go down there :-)

There are plently of us who are more than willing to hook you up. Everything that is posted to that club, every pic, video, is taken from it. Not by me, but only because I don't know how..

Gypsy-Rhiannon

06-14-2003, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by seeknpeace

There are plently of us who are more than willing to hook you up. Everything that is posted to that club, every pic, video, is taken from it. Not by me, but only because I don't know how..
So true. I am not a member yet I have every picture and every video. I also don't know how it is done but the stuff is easily shared

Pip

wetcamelfood

06-14-2003, 01:56 PM

Speaking of petitions, I had heard that apparently Jackie had removed a link to the Penguin's FM DVD petition someone had posted over on Mick's board to help spread the word saying that "it's not that we don't want people to sign it but due to that site's copyright (etc.) I've removed the link as we can't copy from other sites (etc.)".

I do understand the copyright reasons if it really was for those reasons but this is:

1. The pot calling the kettle black (after the Penguin discography/SaraRhiannon stuff) if nothing else and...

2. If the whole idea of a petition is to "get the word out" about it and Marty even had spaces at the bottom of the FM DVD petition page so you could e mail it to some people then surely no one is going to complain about the linking of the Penguin FM DVD petition page soley due to copyright reasons.

Could it be due to that "they" would make no money/not "gain" anything from this product (should the rest of the signatures be gathered) and that the DVD petition is probably viewed by Mick's site admins (including JT) as "going against what the band wants to be released"?

I guess it's just those double standards in motion again. :)

John

seeknpeace

06-14-2003, 03:06 PM

Could it be due to that "they" would make no money/not "gain" anything from this product (should the rest of the signatures be gathered) and that the DVD petition is probably viewed by Mick's site admins (including JT) as "going against what the band wants to be released"?

OR could it be that the refusal to support the efforts of any other entity that does not practice censorship and put a stop to us exposing Micks board, the admins possibly, and the fan club? You know, they must really not like us much. Wonder why? hehehehehehehehe:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: