Don’t Stop

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

There was the 1995 online chat interview where she said she was honored Clinton used the song but would have never voted for him.

Many artists will defend their music when someone they dont like politically uses it. Tom Petty told Trump to stop using I Wont Back Down, The Stones told Trump no too. Heart immediately told Sarah Palin to stop using Barracuda. Apparently that was her nickname when she played basketball in high school. Rush told Rand Paul to stop using their songs. Rand Paul is supposedly a huge Rush fan.
I got a kick out of John Fogerty endorsing Al Gore and giving him permission to use Fortunate Son. John even campaigned with Al. 2 years later George Bush reveled his Ipod music playlist and it was full of John Fogerty music.

ooh yes i think i do remember that. so apparently she said two different things about it...what a surprise lol...depended on the day. maybe by 1995 she'd seen stuff she didn't like. in 93, it was early days!


--Lis

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

ooh yes i think i do remember that. so apparently she said two different things about it...what a surprise lol...depended on the day. maybe by 1995 she'd seen stuff she didn't like. in 93, it was early days!


--Lis

I remember both. I think she came around. And since she couldn't vote anyway, she waffled.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

ooh yes i think i do remember that. so apparently she said two different things about it...what a surprise lol...depended on the day. maybe by 1995 she'd seen stuff she didn't like. in 93, it was early days!


--Lis

If that was around the inaugural ball then that makes sense. She's not going to be a buzzkill with Clinton using her song.
Besides her 1995 comment "would have never voted for him", she also declined Hillary Clinton's request to visit the White House and perform Don't Stop one more time for Bill in 2000. I know she was retired by then but not many decline White House offers. Even in 1993 they never were invited to the White House and never got to spend time with the president. I dont think she was being overly political in all of these situations though.
The most telling about her and John's political beliefs was the E.T. backstage interviews during the Dance rehearsals in 1997. Tony Blair and Labour had just come into power and was good friends with Bill Clinton. The interviewer was asking them about the inaugural and such and why and how it came about. Then he asked "would you do something like this in the UK perhaps if Tony Blair asked you." Chris's eyes bugged out of her head and she says, we would never do anything like that for Labour. I think John took offense to the question too. It was just a light hearted curious question but their reaction was so stern.

[Mr Scarrott]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

I think it is a joint account made for Lis and Marty, the former owners of the site. So if we're being pedantic perhaps it should be "Penguins Emeriti." But user handles can't or won't be changed, as Steve MacD and Homer McVie will attest.

Latin was never my strong suit. But "emerita" would probaby be best for a woman to use. To be honest I only ever heard any one use "emerita" since Nancy Pelosi started referring to herself as "speaker emerita" and I thought that sounded diginified and classy.

I should have put a winking emoji at the end of my comment.

There are plenty of articles online that suggest 2006 in Los Angeles as the time and place he became a US citizen. One states November 22 but as for direct proof... I could hae sworn I had listened to an interview with him or read a reliable atircle in which he was directly quoted re this, but I can't find it. I don't trust wikipidea though- it states he became a citizen in 2006 but then gives as a source his first autobiography written in 1990... so that doesn't follow.

[UnwindedDreams]

There was a NicksFix q and a or faq with John Kinney where he said Stevie was Republican or leaned Republican. But because she’s a Republican doesn’t mean she supports Trump. I doubt John or Christine supported Trump even though they are conservative. Rick Vito did.
I’d say recently, Lindsey’s the most liberal.

The RNC had to get a cover band LOL

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

There was a NicksFix q and a or faq with John Kinney where he said Stevie was Republican or leaned Republican. But because she’s a Republican doesn’t mean she supports Trump. I doubt John or Christine supported Trump even though they are conservative. Rick Vito did.
I’d say recently, Lindsey’s the most liberal.

The video Stevie and Cameron Crowe made for Show Me the Way is what makes me think she voted Democrat. At least in the last election.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

There was a NicksFix q and a or faq with John Kinney where he said Stevie was Republican or leaned Republican. But because she’s a Republican doesn’t mean she supports Trump. I doubt John or Christine supported Trump even though they are conservative. Rick Vito did.
I’d say recently, Lindsey’s the most liberal.

The RNC had to get a cover band LOL

It would not surprise me if Stevie was originally a Republican. Her parents fit the typical republican mold when she was growing up.
Are you forgetting Stevie pretty much endorsed Hillary and told everyone she was going to win a Landslide and she would sing that song at her inauguration....or something along those lines.
Today everyone is so tribal so many identify themselves with a political party. Just in my lifetime the parties have completely switched. I am from Appalachia and in the 1980s we were one of the few places in the country that despised Reagan. We never saw the appeal in him. Today, Trump's biggest support comes from that region. If you look at all the counties that voted for Mondale/Ferraro in 1984 are Trump's most successful counties. Planned Parenthood was started by Republicans and today they want to shut it down and democrats are their supporters now. In the 70s and 80s, republicans were wealthy, college educated suburban. Today college educated wealthy people tend to vote democrat. Democrats were the non-college educated party. Today that is Trump's biggest group. In the 70s and 80s West Virginia was the most democrat state. It was one of the few states that Dukakis won in 1988. Today its all republican and Trump wins by 30 points.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

The video Stevie and Cameron Crowe made for Show Me the Way is what makes me think she voted Democrat. At least in the last election.

She did. And likely did in 2016 too. I didn't say she supported Trump. For the record, a lot of Republicans voted for Hillary and Joe in 2016 and 2020 too because Trump was and is extreme. I have a feeling she supported Bush and McCain. Henley wasn't and isn't afraid to talk politics in his music or at concerts so I doubt Azoff told Stevie not to talk about Bush in 2003. Lindsey on the other hand wrote Peacekeeper.

Don't forget Azoff was entertaining calls from Trump campaign about performers for the 2017 "inauguration."

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

She did. And likely did in 2016 too. I didn't say she supported Trump. For the record, a lot of Republicans voted for Hillary and Joe in 2016 and 2020 too because Trump was and is extreme. I have a feeling she supported Bush and McCain. Henley wasn't and isn't afraid to talk politics in his music or at concerts so I doubt Azoff told Stevie not to talk about Bush in 2003. Lindsey on the other hand wrote Peacekeeper.

Don't forget Azoff was entertaining calls from Trump campaign about performers for the 2017 "inauguration."

I know- I really think there is a difference between Republicans and Trump supporters. There are many Republicans who don’t support Trump.

I feel like someone here said Stevie had never voted before until 2016 when she voted for Hilary Clinton, but I could be misremembering. Plus I don’t know how they would know that unless she said it in an interview.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I know- I really think there is a difference between Republicans and Trump supporters. There are many Republicans who don’t support Trump.

I feel like someone here said Stevie had never voted before until 2016 when she voted for Hilary Clinton, but I could be misremembering. Plus I don’t know how they would know that unless she said it in an interview.

Stevie didn’t vote in 2016. She said she was too busy. I take that to mean she was preparing for her Songs From The Vault Tour. Stevie first voted in 2019.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I know- I really think there is a difference between Republicans and Trump supporters. There are many Republicans who don’t support Trump.

Instead of the Lincoln Project clutching their pearls blabbing on and on about the GOP rot, I wish they’d do something more effective, like form a new party for conservatives committed to American democracy, something like the Conservative Party of America.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Instead of the Lincoln Project clutching their pearls blabbing on and on about the GOP rot, I wish they’d do something more effective, like form a new party for conservatives committed to American democracy, something like the Conservative Party of America.

How about the party against a United States theocracy? That might help.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Instead of the Lincoln Project clutching their pearls blabbing on and on about the GOP rot, I wish they’d do something more effective, like form a new party for conservatives committed to American democracy, something like the Conservative Party of America.

The problem with that idea is the divide within weakens the party. I know some Socialists who chose not to vote for Clinton because they were ticked Bernie didn’t get the nomination- and look what happened.

I don’t think the Republican Party will ever be the same, after MAGA took the party over.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

The problem with that idea is the divide within weakens the party. I know some Socialists who chose not to vote for Clinton because they were ticked Bernie didn’t get the nomination- and look what happened.

I don’t think the Republican Party will ever be the same, after MAGA took the party over.

I think W. and George Pataki are in the Show Them The Way video, as are Presidents Obama and Clinton.

I can’t believe Illume was dedicated to Giuliani. Yikes!!!

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I think W. and George Pataki are in the Show Them The Way video, as are Presidents Obama and Clinton.

I can’t believe Illume was dedicated to Giuliani. Yikes!!!

The only recent president of note that wasn’t in the video was Trump. I think that said a lot.

Rudy Giuliani was widely praised at the time for how he reacted after 9/11. It’s hard to believe he’s the same man we see in the news today.