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Old 10-09-2016, 10:36 PM
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JBrownSJR, I absolutely love that reference!
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:26 AM
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Christine MF McVie. Period.
This!
My favorite is the Bob Welch era. Some of the best musicians, songwriters and entertainers came to together and created some of the greatest music ever. The "Bermuda Triangle" Bootleg is testament of their abilities. Bob Welch is so criminally underrated, it's just sad.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:33 AM
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I'm sorry but I can't see that. The tours between 87 and 96 were a lot more mediocre and flat than the ones between 2003 and 2013. And sorry, but the albums without Lindsey were extremely poor on original ideas. Say You Will, even if you hate it, was a lot more adventurous and surprising. What is soul? Little Lies or Say Goobye? Come on.

And, to be honest, the quality of Christine's songs are really upgraded in co-production with Lindsey.
NOPE! By no means Say You Will is a better album than Behind The Mask. SYW is sound proof that Lindsey can't write a hook if his life depends on it and his outdated production antis ruined whatever Stevie brought to the table. And the whole thing sounds like a 80s Lindsey album, which imho is never a good thing.

Upgraded? Rather upgrated! Hear the demo for "Everywhere" as reference for Chistines ability to write a pop gem versus Lindseys messing around with it until it is so overproduced that your teeths hurt from all the sugarcoating.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:12 PM
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NOPE! By no means Say You Will is a better album than Behind The Mask. SYW is sound proof that Lindsey can't write a hook if his life depends on it
Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
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Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
^^^ THIS! And lest we forget "Holiday Road" - a song that is basically 100% "hooks" within both the verses and chorus!
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:24 PM
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Second Hand News
Go Your Own Way
You Do or You Don't
In Our Own Time
Illumination
That's the Way That Love Goes
Rock Away Blind
Turn It On
Down on Rodeo
Wait for You
The Right Place to Fade


just some examples of Lindsey's clear inability to write a hook
Look no further than FM's most recent release...when Lindsey wants to be Fleetwood Maccy he can be hooky. Sad Angel is really hooky. Infectiously so. I think he just gets a bit weird in his own personal music tastes from time to time and loses focus.

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'Hooks' doesn't always necessarily mean good by the way.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:41 PM
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Maybe he managed a good song with "Second Hand News", "Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain. The other songs on the list are - well- they prove my point.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:22 PM
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^^^ THIS! And lest we forget "Holiday Road" - a song that is basically 100% "hooks" within both the verses and chorus!
ha, yeah.

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Look no further than FM's most recent release...when Lindsey wants to be Fleetwood Maccy he can be hooky. Sad Angel is really hooky. Infectiously so. I think he just gets a bit weird in his own personal music tastes from time to time and loses focus.

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'Hooks' doesn't always necessarily mean good by the way.
yup. just a most recent example.

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Maybe he managed a good song with "Second Hand News", "Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain. The other songs on the list are - well- they prove my point.
are you familiar with these other songs on the list? your post makes me wonder how you define a hook?

A hook is a musical idea, often a short riff, passage, or phrase, that is used in popular music to make a song appealing and to "catch the ear of the listener". The term generally applies to popular music, especially rock, R&B, hip hop, dance, and pop. In these genres, the hook is often found in, or consists of, the chorus. A hook can be either melodic or rhythmic, and often incorporates the main motif for a piece of music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_(music)
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Old 10-10-2016, 07:12 PM
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:45 PM
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should be kicked off of The Ledge (No pun intended) for her comments. She is wrong and should be put in jail. If I ran The Ledge, she would be in jail.
well yeah we strive to be a democracy and not dictatorship! well maybe not here.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:10 PM
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Well, Lindsey is my main reason for even being here, so any era he's part of is my fave.

But specifically, 1979-1982 are MAGICAL years for FM to me. They were at their zenith live.

I <3 Danny Kirwan MAJOR so I love Then Play On, Bare Trees and Future Games. Just want to say a HUGE thank you to wetcamelfood (RIP, John ) for helping me get into Danny's solo works as well. Danny's such a damaged soul and I wish he could have gotten help when he needed it most.
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"Go your own way" is a great song, but that has nothing to do with the melody or the refrain.
The only thing that proves a point in your post is this quote, with this, you prove to me that you don't know what a hook is. ( nor a melody or refrain?)
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:43 AM
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The only thing that proves a point in your post is this quote, with this, you prove to me that you don't know what a hook is. ( nor a melody or refrain?)
Oh please. Not even the critics could find a hook in this one, even Lindsey himself referred to that more than once. It's powerful, virtuos and energetic, but it does not have a great hook.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:58 AM
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Ancient Queen should be kicked off of The Ledge (No pun intended) for her comments. She is wrong and should be put in jail. If I ran The Ledge, she would be in jail.
Yeah, if everyone who has an opinion is kicked off The Ledge, it would be a lonely place. And - be careful, Alex, I'm fast, strong and mean .

I don't have anything against Lindsey, it's just that the idiotic "he made the "girls" songs better" is both mysogynist and plain wrong since 1979.
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