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Old 01-26-2015, 06:33 PM
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I just wish the band was above letting her make them wait. Sure, they want an album with her, but if that can't be had, why just sit there? Put out the album in 2015, capitalize on the publicity her absence will bring and hope that in a year or two maybe you can make an album with her.
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No need to fire. Just make an album without her and connect with her again in 2017.
oh but i just so love that possibility!

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I like this better. That way, they can even tour again if Stevie wants to tour the new album and we'll get new music.
and you want that? enough of endless Mac cash cow tours! (i can say that however many times and i know it will never be true - all of them seem to love the sold-out arenas the huge amount of adulation and endless millions FM tours give them... and i guess that's understandable. most people would.)

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Ok, so where's the 5 year figure coming from? It's been 2 years since the EP, and 12 since Say You Will. Stevie's last albums were released 1 & 4 years ago; Lindsey's 4, 7, and 9 years ago; and Christine's was 11 years back. I guess the first time we heard rumblings of a new FM album was during the Unleashed tour, though- 6 years ago now?
ok 6 years now i guess!

but yeah, just read some of the threads here from 2009. everybody was so sure that FM will go straight in the studio when they get off the road in 2009... since Lindsey was saying that's what they'll do every night on stage. when they came off the road Stevie nixed the album, so he gave up and recorded SWS. and that was a part of his intro the whole 2011 solo tour "i was hoping something else was gonna happen, but since the time unexpectedly opened up, i filled it." then 2012 they went into studio. then 2014. so yes, since 2010-2015, looks like at least 5 years to me.

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Whatever the case, I hope Stevie gets on board for a FM album sooner than later. It's been 28 years since we've gotten any new studio work from the Rumours 5. The band is on the largest grossing tour of their career, and public interest has never been higher. It's time to strike while the iron is hot. They had the same chance following the Dance, and utterly bungled it back then by waiting 6 years to release new material. I sincerely hope they learned from that mistake, but something tells me they haven't.
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Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act
Because that would totally happen with two people who combined had TWELVE of seventeen of Fleetwood Mac's top 40 singles still in the band. As a personality, Stevie is hands down the biggest name in the band, however, she's not bigger than the band. What's next for La Nicks? Another straight to the cut-out bin album produced by Dave Stewart followed by stints as a "special guest" in Tom's band or Don's band or opening for Rod Stewart?

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I don't understand why so many have to be so damned bitter about Stevie's success and her role in Fleetwood Mac. It is what it is. They aren't going to kick her out because she is the bread and butter anymore. Sorry, but it is the truth.
It depends. If Lindsey and Christine say "she's in or she's out, and if not, we're out," then what's Mick going to do? Do you think he'd choose to go on without Lindsey and Christine over Stevie?

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Christine is amazing and a huge celebrated draw for this tour, but Fleetwood Mac wasn't having trouble selling tickets without her.
But, not to this degree. This tour is unlike anything they've done in decades. They were doing okay, but this is a whole different beast.

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Everyone is so quick to blame Stevie for no new album (yet), when the fact is they aren't even signed to a label. Are people expecting what will likely be their *last* album ever to be released independently like that half-assed EP? No label = no album, and that's not Stevie's fault.
OR...

We have an album that is finished, and now we're shopping for a label.

A Fleetwood Mac album with the classic lineup AND not having to pay an advance so it can be recorded?
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:34 PM
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Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act
As someone who has BEEN Foghat's opening act, I take little offense, and great humor in your remarks!!!
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You're judging her whole history with Lindsey producing her songs on Say You Will? There a many, many examples of her songs that he took to the millionth level. IMO Say You will wasn't a great album. Lindsey's work since then (solowise) has been great as has Stevie's. Now is the time to get this done.
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$$$$$.

That's why.

Also, it's because these people are not in their thirties or forties any more. They are 65-70. What they did in the past has little relevance today, as we close in on heaven.

If she wants to leave FM permanently, then good for her. But the odds are that's not what she wants and if she wants to be in the band 2 years from now, there is no way that the other four are going to tell her no, even if she stomps up to them, sneezes in their faces and sets fire to what's left of their hair. They aren't saying goodbye.

I just hope that enough people can pool their collective consciousness and get the band to simply record without her. I'm not even going to try to concentrate enough to will them to tour without her. That would take more brain power than I have left.

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and you want that?
But if they recorded an album, then the next tour would include the new music. Of course we want that!

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Everyone is so quick to blame Stevie for no new album (yet), when the fact is they aren't even signed to a label. Are people expecting what will likely be their *last* album ever to be released independently like that half-assed EP? No label = no album, and that's not Stevie's fault.
If they had a new album, then they'd get a label. They didn't have a label chosen when they were recording SYW.

Having no label is not the hold up on this album. And why is there always one excuse after another for why the delay is not Stevie's fault?

First, people were arguing that she probably agreed to record with them, but she did it secretly and her silence shouldn't mean anything -- because heaven knows this gal is the quiet type and wouldn't mention anything like working on an FM album!

Then, people were saying she would record a new album when her commitment to WB was fulfilled, because if she didn't finish her contract with WB right now, they would send hit men after her. So, you know, she didn't really have a choice. She just had to do 24K RIGHT NOW.

Now, the problem is not Stevie, but it's the fact that they don't have a label?

If Stevie was in line, everything else would fall into place and I don't know know why people are arguing that it's not her that's delaying an album, because she's not denying that. I think she's pretty darned proud of the fact that she is dictating FM's next steps and that the others have their noses bent out of shape waiting for her. It makes her feel it's the 1980s all over again.

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Because they don't want to play theaters and clubs ? or be Foghat's opening act
I rather see FM play in theaters then Arenas .

I do like Foghat.LOL.....
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And why is there always one excuse after another for why the delay is not Stevie's fault?

First, people were arguing that she probably agreed to record with them, but she did it secretly and her silence shouldn't mean anything -- because heaven knows this gal is the quiet type and wouldn't mention anything like working on an FM album!

Then, people were saying she would record a new album when her commitment to WB was fulfilled, because if she didn't finish her contract with WB right now, they would send hit men after her. So, you know, she didn't really have a choice. She just had to do 24K RIGHT NOW.

Now, the problem is not Stevie, but it's the fact that they don't have a label?

If Stevie was in line, everything else would fall into place and I don't know know why people are arguing that it's not her that's delaying an album, because she's not denying that. I think she's pretty darned proud of the fact that she is dictating FM's next steps and that the others have their noses bent out of shape waiting for her. It makes her feel it's the 1980s all over again.
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I rather see FM play in theaters then Arenas .
exactly. i just love all these fans who keep telling us - hey you all want theaters? and cheaper prices? nah........

apparently some people love to pay through the nose and hustle and bustle of huge sports' arenas.
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We have an album that is finished, and now we're shopping for a label.
Indeed, the new material is what you offer to the interested labels or to drum up interest. We saw that with Destiny Rules.

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I don't even know what to think anymore. I wonder where all of this negativity towards Lindsey is coming from now. Could it possibly be from the pressure he's putting on her to finish the new record?

I've been wondering if Stevie and/or Liz have just put a gag on asking about the FM album all together? Because it blows my mind that no one has even asked about it in any interviews. I keep waiting for SOMEONE with the balls to ask her straight up what her thoughts are on her band having finished half an album without one peep from her about it. To ask her "Why aren't you commenting? Your band is so excited and have songs they are super proud of and ready to give to the world. What are your plans for it? Fans clearly want one last masterpiece from this lineup, so why instead of recording a VOL 2 of 24KG aren't you more focused on helping finish what your bandmates so clearly want?" INSTEAD - all we get are the same freakin questions she's answered over and over and over and over and over again. Someone needs to step up and ask some real questions.

Aside from that - I actually enjoy entertaining the idea that she secretly recorded material for the album during their winter break (as someone previously suggested). It's 99% improbable but a part of me likes indulging that tiny little 1% chance.
Oh without a doubt Stevie and Liz have gag orders...most of these articles and interviews are so redundant, why even bother having a writer or columnist interview her! Liz could interview Stevie herself and make up a fake writer and just sell it to magazines. The Rolling Stone interview has its funny moments but it's pages upon pages of junk fluff. Rolling Stone goes that direction in the first place and then when you combine it with Stevie's legacy assuring agenda...there isn't much left of interest.

As much of a stir it caused, the Playboy interview Mick did a few years back may seem like the last really honest piece of journalism associated with this band. Was it part of a larger ploy to get them on the road? yeah probably, but at least Mick had some balls...and his frustration with Stevie I totally understand now, after these recent events.

This band dodges a major bullet with John's cancer and then the crazy fortunate return of Christine and Stevie still can't decide if she wants to be part of the band in the fullest sense - totally baffles me.
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I rather see FM play in theaters then Arenas .

I do like Foghat.LOL.....
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perfect point! do something constructive with that anger and complaints - like put it in a song or 2 or 3 (look up Sad Angel or ITT or even Dancin' for how it's done!) instead of endlessly yakking about it.
But I sense part of her anger is that she feels written out. Does she have a new song left in her? I'm beginning to wonder.

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Because she know she has a limited time to accomplish for herself and she is back to being respected ( thank liz rosenberg )and not the butt of the joke

plus she made enough cash on this tour to keep her from worrying for awhile
If Stevie is dumb enough to screw up the best thing that's happened to this band since 1997 - she deserves to be the butt of a joke.
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