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Old 06-17-2009, 12:14 PM
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Thanks for the review and amazing photos Enchanted Stevie. I really laughed at the fact that she said she was the only member of Fritz in school and no one else cared. That is just like her. But she usually doesn't say the same things when Lindsey is next to her that she does in interviews.

C'mon Stevie. What kind of grades were you getting in school anyway? How much were they really taking you away from?

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Old 06-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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Pattie,

I like the one with LB on the floor and also the one where Stevie has got her sleeve covering the bottom half of her face. Great pictures, as always.

Thank you.

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Old 06-17-2009, 12:19 PM
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Thanks for the review and amazing photos Enchanted Stevie. I really laughed at the fact that she said she was the only member of Fritz in school and no one else cared. That is just like her. But she usually doesn't say the same things when Lindsey is next to her that she does in interviews.

C'mon Stevie. What kind of grades were you getting in school anyway? How much were they really taking you away from?

Michele
I KNOW! The Gypsy story was pretty funny. I would like to know what grades she was getting in school!
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:24 PM
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In Los Angeles, security went to people in the front row and told them that they better go up to the stage and stake their claim, before the other rows were allowed up. So, people got a bit of a heads up. I think that's the best way to handle it, if you insist on letting 15 rows up to the stage.

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It definitely levels the playing field between the haves and have-nots.
I think they should be more concerned with leveling the playing field between tall and short people; pushy jerks vs. reserved fans; drunk and disorderly vs. the courteous; young and old; strong and infirm. Make things fairer between those groups.

Aside from that, not everyone in the front row bought from scalpers. Some bought the band's own VIP tickets and the band surely has a duty towards those people that they got the extra money from. If you paid extra for the meet and greet package, Mick should come down to the floor and lift you onto his shoulders, to guarantee that you see the stage.

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Old 06-17-2009, 12:31 PM
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Aside from that, not everyone in the front row bought from scalpers. Some bought the band's own VIP tickets and the band surely has a duty towards those people that they got the extra money from. If you paid extra for the meet and greet package, Mick should come down to the floor and lift you onto his shoulders, to guarantee that you see the stage.

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...and Cory should be waving palm fronds and feeding you peeled grapes too. I would pay $900 for that.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:52 PM
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Great pics, thank you. Although, and I really hate that I even care, is Stevie not wearing the boots for any songs anymore? Although the boks do look a lot better with the legwarmers.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:58 PM
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I think they should be more concerned with leveling the playing field between tall and short people; pushy jerks vs. reserved fans; drunk and disorderly vs. the courteous; young and old; strong and infirm. Make things fairer between those groups.
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But how do you do that? I understand the drunk fan issues, etc., but because I'm relatively young and tall I have to let everyone who is older and shorter than me stand in front of me? I don't think so. I've had first and second row tickets for the two shows I went to. Front row in Chicago we weren't let up until after ISA and I went right to the stage so I could have a massive crick in my neck the next day. Second show in Milwaukee I had second row and let people who had front row stand in front of me. That's what seemed fair to me. Is DavidMN taller than me? Yes, but so what. Them's the breaks. Were there shorter people behind me? Definitely. Did I care? Not really. However, I also think letting too many people up from the back of the floor can be dangerous. The first 5 rows seems like a good balance, plus letting the front rowers stake their spots first and move back accordingly. Of course the logistics of even doing that I'm sure are problematic.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:09 PM
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Great pics, thank you. Although, and I really hate that I even care, is Stevie not wearing the boots for any songs anymore? Although the boks do look a lot better with the legwarmers.
I think she alternates with every show. Depending on how she feels. One night she might mix up boots with the boks and some nights she might just wear the boks.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:30 PM
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But how do you do that?
You do it by limiting the number people who can come up to the stage or just keep everyone in their seats.

I'm not saying the Mac should differentiate between height, age or anything else. I'm just saying when you use more control, it's fairer for everyone. When it's a general admission free for all, then it's survival of the fittest and the the weaker and passive tend to get the short end of the stick.

Only allow people in the first 3-5 rows up to the front of the stage. That will keep it orderly down there.

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Is DavidMN taller than me? Yes, but so what. Them's the breaks.
I wasn't saying otherwise. I was responding specifically to the suggestion that we even the playing field between the have and have nots. My point was that there are other have and have not issues besides money and that when you don't give priority to people according to their concert seat, then you unlevel more playing fields than you level.

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Old 06-17-2009, 01:55 PM
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There really is no way of crowd controlling when it's a free for all invited to go up to the stage. The drunken fan could of been advised from security that she'd be escorted out if she didn't stop the disruption.
Chances are , most people would of let her move up if she just hadn't done the screaming and pushing............but it's a crazy world.....
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:42 PM
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I disagree. As the old saying goes- caveat emptor. There is nothing on the ticket that guarantees you a standing spot in front of the stage. All it guarantees you is a seat located in the front row, which is exactly what this woman got. Nobody put a gun to her head and forced her to fork over $900 for that ticket- the idiot got what she paid for.

Personally I think this is a shrewd move by the band, and it is nothing but a goodwill gesture towards their fans. As word of this policy becomes more widespread, people will be less willing to pay scalpers huge sums of money for front row seats, thereby discouraging scalping significantly. It definitely levels the playing field between the haves and have-nots. Furthermore, I'm sure they are sick of looking at bored, disinterested rich old people sitting in the front row throughout the show with their arms folded.
Ok, let me clarify. Caveat emptor. Sure. If she knew that she had to beware of anything. Maybe if she had been told by security of the procedure, she would have hauled her ass up to a spot at the stage. She may have thought they would clear everyone out before the show started.

I don't think that you should have to get to a show way early (like you would with a GA show) if you have a front row ticket. You should be able to arrive 15 minutes before the show and have an unobstructed view. Hence, the reason why I said they should not let anyone up until after the first few songs. That way, if you know it's coming, and you're there before the show, you will be in the spot you want to be in before anyone else is allowed up front.

I don't pay scalpers. But I work hard for the tickets I get. I spend a lot of time on Ticketbastard looking for seats and waiting for drops. Time is money, so... My comment wasn't meant to say that she should have more privilege than the person who paid face value. It was meant to say that anyone with a front row seat, no matter how they came by it, should not have to worry about having someone standing in front of them. Unless they are sitting. That is different. I am of the opinion that you can't expect to stay in your seat and be able to see if you are sitting on the floor.

Maybe it will discourage people buying from scalpers - a little. And I appreciate that the band wants to have fans up front. But if that is the case, maybe they should just have a GA section on the floor. That way everyone knows what they're getting into. And knows they have to be there early and that they are not guaranteed a spot.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:55 PM
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I don't think that you should have to get to a show way early (like you would with a GA show) if you have a front row ticket. You should be able to arrive 15 minutes before the show and have an unobstructed view. Hence, the reason why I said they should not let anyone up until after the first few songs. That way, if you know it's coming, and you're there before the show, you will be in the spot you want to be in before anyone else is allowed up front.

I don't pay scalpers. But I work hard for the tickets I get. I spend a lot of time on Ticketbastard looking for seats and waiting for drops. Time is money, so... My comment wasn't meant to say that she should have more privilege than the person who paid face value. It was meant to say that anyone with a front row seat, no matter how they came by it, should not have to worry about having someone standing in front of them. Unless they are sitting. That is different. I am of the opinion that you can't expect to stay in your seat and be able to see if you are sitting on the floor.

This is more the point that I was speaking to in my earlier post. I think it's fantastic that the band wants to give their fans the opportunity to stand, and I knew that standing at the stage would be crowded and uncomfortable which I expected and I was fine with that. But I guess I just feel that anyone who has a front row seat no matter what they pay for it, should be able to have an unobstructed view if they choose to go to the stage. My point was not so much about the fact that I paid extra money, it was that for the first time in my life I had front row and figured I wouldn't have to worry about fighting my way for a spot at the stage and people standing in front of me. I was very disappointed that that's pretty much what I had to do and still had a hard time seeing anything because of people from other rows who arrived before I did. I think maybe if they were able to let the front row have first choice at the stage by only letting that row up for the first few songs and then letting the other rows up after that, it would work better.

That said, the times I was able to see, it was an amazing experience to be that close to a band that I love so much.

To the others who were there, was the drunk lady the one that yelled something during one of Lindsey's speeches and he played a few notes on the guitar and then said something about like, "Thank you, now if I can finish what I was saying..." If that's her, I saw her from where I was and I was completely disgusted by her behavior.
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:39 PM
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This is more the point that I was speaking to in my earlier post. I think it's fantastic that the band wants to give their fans the opportunity to stand, and I knew that standing at the stage would be crowded and uncomfortable which I expected and I was fine with that. But I guess I just feel that anyone who has a front row seat no matter what they pay for it, should be able to have an unobstructed view if they choose to go to the stage. My point was not so much about the fact that I paid extra money, it was that for the first time in my life I had front row and figured I wouldn't have to worry about fighting my way for a spot at the stage and people standing in front of me. I was very disappointed that that's pretty much what I had to do and still had a hard time seeing anything because of people from other rows who arrived before I did. I think maybe if they were able to let the front row have first choice at the stage by only letting that row up for the first few songs and then letting the other rows up after that, it would work better.

That said, the times I was able to see, it was an amazing experience to be that close to a band that I love so much.

To the others who were there, was the drunk lady the one that yelled something during one of Lindsey's speeches and he played a few notes on the guitar and then said something about like, "Thank you, now if I can finish what I was saying..." If that's her, I saw her from where I was and I was completely disgusted by her behavior.
Yes that was her, I had the honor of standing next to her for a bit, between the screaming, crying and being bumped into numerous times, my patience was wearing thin, it was an over the top act, I saw her after the show, twice, and had to bite my tongue. I felt so bad for the gentleman that was standing there and her first complaint was that he was too tall and she could not see, and just kept repeating herself, and then the water works started, then it was screaming out Bleed To Love Her, when Lindsey was talking, then it was bumping into people, along with the dance moves
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Old 06-17-2009, 08:58 PM
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Yes that was her, I had the honor of standing next to her for a bit, between the screaming, crying and being bumped into numerous times, my patience was wearing thin, it was an over the top act, I saw her after the show, twice, and had to bite my tongue. I felt so bad for the gentleman that was standing there and her first complaint was that he was too tall and she could not see, and just kept repeating herself, and then the water works started, then it was screaming out Bleed To Love Her, when Lindsey was talking, then it was bumping into people, along with the dance moves
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that! All I saw were the dance moves and that was horrifying enough for me, the guy that was with her was just as bad with the way he was rubbing all over her.

Why would someone pay $900 to see a show and then be completely wasted during it, she probably doesn't remember any of it.
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Wow, I just skimmed this thread for the pics (Great Job everyone), wow, those are fantastic. Just wanted to say thank you for posting these.

Now back to reading through the reviews, love doing that as it makes me feel like I was there.
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