Lindsey Buckingham gets kicked out of Fleetwood Mac and the band gets better?

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!

I knew you'd like that. But am I that far off? BTW Stevie was all smiles on that horrible show but inside she KNOWS what she's done isn't good.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

I knew you'd like that. But am I that far off? BTW Stevie was all smiles on that horrible show but inside she KNOWS what she's done isn't good.

I wish $he hated her$elf, but I seriously doubt that'$ even po$$ible.

Old goat has a staff to follow her around, convincing her that her ***** smells like ro$e$.

But you probably are right....deep inside, she knows that she f*cked up. But she'll NEVER admit it. She'll take that secret to goat Hell.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I wish $he hated her$elf, but I seriously doubt that'$ even po$$ible.

Old goat has a staff to follow her around, convincing her that her ***** smells like ro$e$.

But you probably are right....deep inside, she knows that she f*cked up. But she'll NEVER admit it. She'll take that secret to goat Hell.

I thought all Hells were goat Hells isn't Satan often depicted with the head of a goat? But anyway judging by her performance of Gypsy on Ellen I think that we are doing a disservice to Nanny goats everywhere by comparing them to her. Most goats that I have heard have way more range than Stevie does now.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I thought all Hells were goat Hells isn't Satan often depicted with the head of a goat? But anyway judging by her performance of Gypsy on Ellen I think that we are doing a disservice to Nanny goats everywhere by comparing them to her. Most goats that I have heard have way more range than Stevie does now.

If $he went to Heaven, I'd rather be in Hell.

But let's pause now, for a sweet, goat loving moment....

https://youtu.be/NGBqB_k84Ms

[sodascouts]

In his "Mailbag," Lefsetz published two emails from readers who agreed with him.

Those two readers just happened to be the executive producer and music producer of Ellen.

I imagine Lefsetz is counting on the fact that very few people will actually take the time to click on those links to the performance to verify what he says, and just accept his claim that their performance on Ellen was so incredible that it has outshone anything they have done in recent memory. Read: Buy tickets to see them now, folks!

I've subscribed for years, and I've never seen a more blatant example of Lefsetz being a "company man."

If you're curious, here are the employee emails of which I speak:

Subject: Re: The Chain

This piece made me very happy, Bob. During the soundcheck I turned to a younger co-worker next to me and said, "...and all of those sounds are actually coming from the band!" They even count themselves in, instead of clips or digital tracks counting them in. Mick Fleetwood on drums sounded incredible. And the whole band looked so happy to be performing together. It was a booking Jonny Norman, our Co-EP and music booker wanted so badly, and it was so much fun.

Ed Glavin
Exec. Producer, The Ellen Show

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Subject: Re: The Chain

Longtime fan, first time caller!

Thanks for this Bob, I'm the Music Producer at Ellen, and this booking was 15 years in the making, and let me tell you, they were incredible. I wish you had been in the room, because it was electric. They sounded not only better than ever, they sounded fresh, like a new band. I?m not sure even the band thought it could be possible, that they could reinvent the wheel at this stage of their career and succeed, but they did it.

And their work ethic. So many acts show up, perform their song, and get right back into their car. Not these guys. They show up early, they rehearse, they stay long after to make sure it sounds great, they work HARD. And that's why it works. And why this machine has been working for so long. They actually CARE about the music. And they?ve been smart. They have an amazing team of people around them, from the top - down. It was an extraordinary thing to be a part of and to watch them create their magic. And I'm so happy you posted our clip and felt the same way.

Best,
Jonathan
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Jonathan Norman
Co-Executive Producer
"The Ellen DeGeneres Show"

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by Ellen co-producer

they stay long after to make sure it sounds great, they work HARD

Aha!!
This proves that the Ellen performance (unlike the 100% live-to-air Today Show performances) was operated on during editing.

They spent SO much dedicated time on rehearsing and post-mixing, and yet half the band was still completely inaudible???

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

Aha!!
This proves that the Ellen performance (unlike the 100% live-to-air Today Show performances) was operated on during editing.

They spent SO much dedicated time on rehearsing and post-mixing, and yet half the band was still completely inaudible???

It was ridiculous that the Crowded House guy and the backup singers were the only ones you could hear!

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It was ridiculous that the Crowded House guy and the backup singers were the only ones you could hear!

Sugar Mouse's other day job.....sound engineer.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

Sugar Mouse's other day job.....sound engineer.

And Crowded House publicist!

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

Aha!!
This proves that the Ellen performance (unlike the 100% live-to-air Today Show performances) was operated on during editing.

They spent SO much dedicated time on rehearsing and post-mixing, and yet half the band was still completely inaudible???

I hadn't thought about that.

Wow.

Do you think that perhaps they deliberately lowered Stevie and Christine in the mix after the fact? That their voices were so "off" that for the band to "sound great" (ha!) they had to be turned down? That their inaudibility wasn't a mistake?

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Do you think that perhaps they deliberately lowered Stevie and Christine in the mix after the fact? That their voices were so "off" that for the band to "sound great" (ha!) they had to be turned down? That their inaudibility wasn't a mistake?

Exactly--that becomes one of the possibilities. Along with the question of who "they" is. The FM "machine", the Ellen producers, or a combination thereof? To what extent did the likes of Christine have any say? And I certainly can't imagine that Stevie was hanging around for ages in the post-edit studio. (Wasn't she off cavorting with that muscular guy half her age in the green room?...)

I can even read the producer's letter as being satire--ie taking a dig at the band's members and keepers--if not for the remark about Mick's energetic drumming, which rings true.

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

Sugar Mouse's other day job.....sound engineer.

Lol, that's as funny as the original.

Sugar Mouse: "Neil Finn to 11!"
Stevie: "More cowbell!"
Sugar Mouse: "Those harmonies with himself are off-the-charts spine-tingling!"
The McVies: "Sorry to interrupt--we can't hear ourselves in the mix."
Ellen producer: "Increase the volume of Mike Campbell's casio keyboard!"

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It was ridiculous that the Crowded House guy and the backup singers were the only ones you could hear!

The only instruments I could easily hear during the first part of The Chain were drums, Neil’s guitar, and the trills at the end of the chorus. I had turn up the volume and focus to hear John, the organ, and Stevie. Mike’s resonator guitar wasn’t in the mix during the second verse. I could see him playing, but couldn’t hear anything.

[TheWildHeart67]

Is that producer's email for real? Pure denial and embarrassing.

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

Exactly--that becomes one of the possibilities. Along with the question of who "they" is. The FM "machine", the Ellen producers, or a combination thereof? To what extent did the likes of Christine have any say? And I certainly can't imagine that Stevie was hanging around for ages in the post-edit studio. (Wasn't she off cavorting with that muscular guy half her age in the green room?...)

I can even read the producer's letter as being satire--ie taking a dig at the band's members and keepers--if not for the remark about Mick's energetic drumming, which rings true.



Lol, that's as funny as the original.

Sugar Mouse: "Neil Finn to 11!"
Stevie: "More cowbell!"
Sugar Mouse: "Those harmonies with himself are off-the-charts spine-tingling!"
The McVies: "Sorry to interrupt--we can't hear ourselves in the mix."
Ellen producer: "Increase the volume of Mike Campbell's casio keyboard!"

That's pretty hilarious too!!! More cowbell...hahahahahaha.

[David]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Thanks for this Bob, I'm the Music Producer at Ellen, and this booking was 15 years in the making, and let me tell you, they were incredible. I wish you had been in the room, because it was electric. They sounded not only better than ever, they sounded fresh, like a new band. I'm not sure even the band thought it could be possible, that they could reinvent the wheel at this stage of their career and succeed, but they did it.
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Jonathan Norman
Co-Executive Producer
"The Ellen DeGeneres Show"[/INDENT]

You called it, Nancy. It's just silly marketing hyperbole. It means nothing genuine. It has no connection to anything except selling.

What I'm wondering is whether Jonathan Norman knows what "reinventing the wheel" actually means. It is NOT a term of praise.

As for the blogger whose piece is the reason for this thread: I have no idea who he is, but I don't have to know. He's just being perverse, probably to make a splash in his little corner of the pond. Everybody's doing that these days. It's the online behavioral norm.