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Old 07-21-2008, 12:40 AM
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I have read that Lindsey cringes at the mention of this album but I gotta be honest, I have always loved it. Given that Chris and Stevie are on there, I sorta viewed it as it's on project away from MAC.


There are some great songs on it and it captures that FM mystique alittle.


When I listen to it now, it's sort of nostalgic.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:15 AM
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I have read that Lindsey cringes at the mention of this album but I gotta be honest, I have always loved it. Given that Chris and Stevie are on there, I sorta viewed it as it's on project away from MAC.There are some great songs on it and it captures that FM mystique alittle.When I listen to it now, it's sort of nostalgic.
I think Lindsey probably meant the TIME album, not Behind the Mask.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:26 AM
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oh, well in that case--the comment was warranted! haha

Actually, it's my nature to see the positive in everything and I'll say that although TIME didn't flow well, it had some redeeming songs.


I wished WOC had been recorded by Stevie, the song woulda been letter perfect for her although she didn't write it.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:15 AM
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I think Lindsey probably meant the TIME album, not Behind the Mask.
No, he cringes at both. Actually, with TIME, he thought the band had some potential. Lindsey was a fan of Dave Mason, and was more than aware of Bekka Bramlett's potential. Then again, Lindsey talks out of both sides of his ass, so who knows. Pretty much across the board, Lindsey feels that anything he's not on is inferior.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:23 AM
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Pretty much across the board, Lindsey feels that anything he's not on is inferior.
But he was on BTM, he played on the song BTM.
It was him, he made the entire album work.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:25 PM
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But he was on BTM, he played on the song BTM.
It was him, he made the entire album work.
what did you mean? the entire album work? He just played a part on the song BTM.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:48 PM
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what did you mean? the entire album work? He just played a part on the song BTM.
I could be wrong, but I suspect that was sarcasm...
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:31 AM
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Actually, with TIME, he thought the band had some potential.
My guess is that, if he thought the TIME project had any potential, it was owing to the fact that Dashut was involved (along with the three Brits, of course).

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Did I miss something, or are you conjecturing?

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Then again, Lindsey talks out of both sides of his ass, so who knows.
Well, yeah, he does that. But after all these years, you (of all people) should by now have a pretty good idea of what sort of music & production he gravitates toward.
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Did I miss something, or are you conjecturing?
Well, does the fact that he played on her song indicate any type of support?

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:38 AM
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Well, does the fact that he played on her song indicate any type of support?
Hanging out a bit with old friends? A gesture (a cameo with one's old band isn't exactly unheard of in the record business)? It seems to me that more is often made of these guest shots than they sometimes warrant. Like a million other people, Lindsey has laid down some guitar tracks for dozens of acts. I don't think it always means that he has deep musical admiration for all those acts -- maybe he did, I don't know. But I think it's generally more casual than that. Did he love Dream Academy? Josie Cotton? Does anyone think Stevie Nicks has given that red-haired nobody she once sang a song with a second thought since then? Steve said Lindsey was aware of Bekka's potential. What does that mean? Potential for what? I thought Lindsey might have mentioned Bekka in some old interview that I don't remember seeing.
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My guess is that, if he thought the TIME project had any potential, it was owing to the fact that Dashut was involved (along with the three Brits, of course).

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\\You contributed some backing vocals to the last Mac record, "Time." After you left, how many of the band's new records did you listen to?

\\Well, "Behind the Mask," which still had Stevie and Christine, I certainly listened to maybe once, but I didn't put too much into it because the music was already becoming more generic. When I heard that Dave Mason was joining, my initial reaction was, "Oh, that could be good." But apparently, it wasn't. [laughs] Then when I heard that they were doing this nostalgia package tour with REO Speedwagon and Pat Benatar, I was like, "What happened?"
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I can't say it was one person. I used to love Led Zeppelin, but I never sat around trying to learn Jimmy Page licks. In terms of developing a sense of melody, I was helped along by Dave Mason's Alone Together -a wonderful album with a very pretty kind of lead-guitar style. But I never thought of myself as someone who was going to go out there and burn it up. In fact, the lead stuff came very late for me.
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A: From a distance. When I left the band and they got Billy Burnette and Rick Vito, that was fine because Stevie was still there and there was a semblance of it being that thing, even though it was a little more generic.

I think by the time it got down to being no Stevie and Bekka Bramlett and Dave Mason, which actually didn't sound too bad on paper but I guess didn't play out too well, a lot of people were not too happy with that because it really did bastardize the good name, if you want to look at it in that way.

Maybe in Mick's defence, all the incarnations of Fleetwood Mac after Peter Green days, many of which were nonsequiturs from incarnation to incarnation, led him to the point where he ran into us. That same process of constantly reaching out to people more than to a concept is what got him to us in the first place. I think to some degree he was able to feel he was just doing the same thing he'd always done. But it's a little more tricky after the fact.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:46 PM
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My guess is that, if he thought the TIME project had any potential, it was owing to the fact that Dashut was involved (along with the three Brits, of course).

Find the exact quote & let's examine that putative admiration again. Let's try to put it into some sort of believable context (for example, Lindsey liked a very old Mason album that predated TIME by about 20 years).

Did I miss something, or are you conjecturing?

Well, yeah, he does that. But after all these years, you (of all people) should by now have a pretty good idea of what sort of music & production he gravitates toward.
judging by his latest effort... boring music...
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judging by his latest effort... boring music...
What?! No way. As far as Behind The Mask goes, it's one of my favorite Fleetwood Mac albums and the BTM lineup might be my favorite of all the Fleetwood Mac lineups. In my view, Christine's songs are some of her best ever and they collectively might be the strongest she has on any Mac album. Billy's songs are top notch too, in particular Hard Feelings which is among my all time favorites. I think Rick got the short end of the stick with Walk Another Mile and Got No Home not getting on the album. Stevie's would have been better off not even been on the album since Freedom is the only song that's worth listening to, which is another one of my all time favorites.

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(for example, Lindsey liked a very old Mason album that predated TIME by about 20 years).
And, if you listen to Dave Mason, you'll see that the material he's written through the years is pretty much the SAME in 1994 as it was in 1970 (or earlier). And, the fact that the two biggest hits we performed were songs written by someone else ("All Along The Watchtower" by Bob Dylan via Jimi Hendrix; and "We Just Disagree" by his bandmate Jim Kreuger)...his actual biggest hits were hits by other people covering his songs: "Feelin' Alright" by Joe Cocker and "Only You Know & I Know" by Delaney & Bonnie And Friends.

If you listen to Dave's own albums, his two songs on Time aren't radically different from his previous material in the least...and one song ("I Wonder Why") lyrically, quotes quite a few earlier Dave Mason songs. Either of those two could've fit comfortably on ANY Dave Mason album.
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I think that Dave's writing always had a trite quality to his lyrics (same goes for Christine, BTW), but he was able to pull them off much better during the Traffic/Alone Together era. After that, it was really hit or miss. Sometimes there were wonderful songs, other times the lyrics could get painful. I think my biggest objection to his Time songs is that he seemed to focus more on being a hard rocker than the AOR legend he had once been. Now, I loved the Soccer Rocks The Globe version of Blow By Blow. That WAS classic Dave Mason. But then they decided to make it hard rocker, and it just didn't work.
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