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Old 06-12-2009, 10:15 PM
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I know this is a tired subject but I thought I would weigh in
after hearing that there were thousands of unsold tickets in
New York last night.
With the quality of the performances lately - there is no reason
why these shows shouldn't be sell outs.
So I have to blame it on the absurdly high ticket prices
in a historically bad economy.
Why is it that I can get excellent seats for $80 or less to see
Wilco or Bruce Springsteen - the two other amazing American
bands on the road this summer.
$179 for the best sections is ridiculous in this economy.
I can afford that, but clearly thousands of fans couldn't.

I would love to see the band do a tour in smaller venues.
If an arena tour means 200 dollar tickets, I'll stick with Wilco
this summer.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:20 PM
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one of the most xpensive tickets i've ever paid for was last night at MSG..checked ticketmaster day of show and 2nd and 3rd row are just waiting to be bought..Bruce tries to keep them always at the same price but this summer def has alot of crazy prices
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:30 PM
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The reason why there were thousands of unsold tickets last night is because FM had NO business doing a repeat trip to the market (and at MSG of all places) so soon. (between the poor MSG sales and the AC near-abortion, its obvious why they didn't add the egregiously bad pre-planned Holmdel gig) Its the most expensive venue in the country to play with all the overhead/union bull****, and they lost big $$$.

Of course, Fleetwood Mac needs their $800K g'tee. If they lowered their demands, maybe last night's show could have been a raucous sold out crowd at Radio City Music Hall. The point is- they need their fee. They don't want to play smaller venues- they would rather stay home. They would rather play to 1/3rd-1/2 empty houses (with the upper level completely curtained) than lower themselves to playing 2500-3000 seaters.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:48 PM
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I'm surprised there wasn't some discounting going on for MSG like some of the other shows.

I don't necessarily think it's the pricing, cause in a bunch of markets you could have seen the show for probably 30 or 40 bucks with the fees included... I mean if you are stuck for cash and can't afford the top price, 30 or 40 is really reasonable I think....
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
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I'm surprised there wasn't some discounting going on for MSG like some of the other shows.

I don't necessarily think it's the pricing, cause in a bunch of markets you could have seen the show for probably 30 or 40 bucks with the fees included... I mean if you are stuck for cash and can't afford the top price, 30 or 40 is really reasonable I think....
I agree - I would have just agreed with you, but I did not see your post
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:26 PM
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. . . They would rather play to 1/3rd-1/2 empty houses (with the upper level completely curtained) than lower themselves to playing 2500-3000 seaters.
Then why did they play the similarly sized sheds on the SYW tour and some of The Dance I suspect they would have on this tour, but it started too early for many of the sheds.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:00 PM
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I thought the prices were a bit high, BUT I couldn't pass up seeing them. I went to 1 of the Chicago shows, paid $200.00 for that ticket, then went to Vegas and paid $385.00 for that one. The Vegas seat was worth it tho, I would have liked the seat to be front row for that price, but , it was great anyways !! In Vegas I was REALLY close to Lindsey, so it was well worth it to me!
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:58 PM
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Then why did they play the similarly sized sheds on the SYW tour and some of The Dance I suspect they would have on this tour, but it started too early for many of the sheds.
Huh? Most sheds seat between 7000-8000 and have room for an additional 8000-10000 on the lawn. Its a reduced gross potential from the current scaling that they're using on their arena tour, but FAR more than if they were playing the venues I was referring to in the post you quoted.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:25 PM
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Huh? Most sheds seat between 7000-8000 and have room for an additional 8000-10000 on the lawn. Its a reduced gross potential from the current scaling that they're using on their arena tour, but FAR more than if they were playing the venues I was referring to in the post you quoted.
I was unclear - I was referring to sheds being less capacity, not that sheds were 2,500 people. My point was and is they do not really need to play the 2,500 seaters at this point - they are selling way beyond that now. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:22 PM
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The reason why there were thousands of unsold tickets last night is because FM had NO business doing a repeat trip to the market (and at MSG of all places) so soon. (between the poor MSG sales and the AC near-abortion, its obvious why they didn't add the egregiously bad pre-planned Holmdel gig) Its the most expensive venue in the country to play with all the overhead/union bull****, and they lost big $$$.

Of course, Fleetwood Mac needs their $800K g'tee. If they lowered their demands, maybe last night's show could have been a raucous sold out crowd at Radio City Music Hall. The point is- they need their fee. They don't want to play smaller venues- they would rather stay home. They would rather play to 1/3rd-1/2 empty houses (with the upper level completely curtained) than lower themselves to playing 2500-3000 seaters.
yeah, I really don't get the reasoning behind going back to MSG after just playing there. It obviously was a stupid business move.
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:28 PM
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yeah, I really don't get the reasoning behind going back to MSG after just playing there. It obviously was a stupid business move.
I wonder who makes those decisions. I guess it is the tour manager along with Live Nation.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:04 PM
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Why is it that I can get excellent seats for $80 or less to see
Wilco or Bruce Springsteen - the two other amazing American
bands on the road this summer.
$179 for the best sections is ridiculous in this economy.
I can afford that, but clearly thousands of fans couldn't.
I'm one of those who could fork out $179 for tickets if I wanted to, but won't, because I have higher priorities right now in this crappy economy. There are MANY other bands that I could see this summer who are not charging these ridiculous prices for tickets. I've never had less respect for FM than I have right now. It just sickens me that fans have to pay for this bands' pampered lifestyle. Where's the gratitude at from this high maintenance, money grabbing machine we call FLEETWOOD MAC? It disgusts me!!
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:38 PM
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Where's the gratitude at from this high maintenance, money grabbing machine we call FLEETWOOD MAC? It disgusts me!!

There is none ..that is why even though I could have afforded it I sat out both bay area shows..I did have ambigious feelings about going for awhile although the "greatest hits" abomination did sicken me from the get-go.They have sunk to the depths of the money grubbing Eagles no doubt.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:59 AM
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I totally agree.
I went to the box office right at show time just to see what
was available. I didn't go for the incredible single tickets
available because the prices were really offensive to me.
I think I just also have grown to hate arena shows.

Instead I walked down 7th Ave, went to Whole Foods and spent
$25 on some groceries, and called it a night.

I think I was hoping for a little of the magic from the
1979 Tusk tour shows in NY. But I just felt almost gluttonous
paying those prices.

Fleetwood Mac needs to make music their priority again.
Lose the predictable greatest hits setlist and get out of the arenas!
Neko Case, Animal Collective, Wilco, Spoon...
Too much good music happening right now.
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:43 AM
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There is none ..that is why even though I could have afforded it I sat out both bay area shows..I did have ambigious feelings about going for awhile although the "greatest hits" abomination did sicken me from the get-go.They have sunk to the depths of the money grubbing Eagles no doubt.
I understand your frustration but if this turns out to be the last Fleetwood Mac Tour you just might wish that you had went. It really is a very good live show, sequenced perfectly. And just watching Lindsey's energy and enthusiasum(did I spell that right??) is amazing.
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