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Old 03-01-2021, 05:57 PM
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Thanks for posting. This guy is spot on. Never noticed her emphasis on the bbbbbbbbs before.

Loved the hot librarian reference

I agree. Her vibe matches the song perfectly. She sold the song.

I always loved songs where the background vocals don't match up exactly to the lead vocal. Stevie does this frequently with her background vocals in her solo stuff. Love that Stevie does not try to over sing the song. She is so grounded and like the whispering hot librarian telling you a secret story
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I always loved songs where the background vocals don't match up exactly to the lead vocal.
Oh god, no! That's what has ALWAYS bugged me about the original Sentimental Lady. That Chris and Bob's vocals don't match. It just bugs the sh*t out of me!
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Oh god, no! That's what has ALWAYS bugged me about the original Sentimental Lady. That Chris and Bob's vocals don't match. It just bugs the sh*t out of me!
Wow, and I thought I had a touch of OCD.

I just l like live singing and if everything matches up it seems to be over produced. Bubble Gum pop songs have the vocals and chorus in step and match up. Rock and roll and especially the blues is much more fluid.

Speaking of Sentimental Lady I always wondered if it was a hit with the band in its original form. Its fairly close to the retake. But if Fleetwood Mac had a top 10 hit in the USA early on with Bob, just imagine how that would have changed things. Maybe Bob would not have left when he did? Maybe he would have left earlier?

Just one of those things that make you wonder
I love Christine's backing vocals btw. So glad Lindsey kept them pretty much the same.
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Thanks for posting. This guy is spot on. Never noticed her emphasis on the bbbbbbbbs before.

Loved the hot librarian reference

I agree. Her vibe matches the song perfectly. She sold the song.

I always loved songs where the background vocals don't match up exactly to the lead vocal. Stevie does this frequently with her background vocals in her solo stuff. Love that Stevie does not try to over sing the song. She is so grounded and like the whispering hot librarian telling you a secret story

He wasn't saying really that she was emphasizing them, because any time you say a plosive (something that expels a small puff of air... like B, P, D, T) that puff of air gets picked up by the microphone. He ws saying he didn't understand why the engineers/producer didn't plan for this and have one of those windscreens between her and the mic or use a different mic.
His info was off on the recording, though-- he said they did it at Village Recorder and took forever to record-- which was Tusk, but the white album was done at Sound City with Keith Olsen and was one of the few Rumours5 did pretty quickly (by their standards). It did not take a year to record.
We do have to remember though that this was recorded in 1974/75.

I agree that things sound too over-produced and frankly kinda cold and manufactured when everything is too perfect. Rock and roll is about not being perfect but having a great vibe and conveying the emotion. Stevie does that all amazingly. And frankly, singing a little off the main vocals is one of Stevie's signatures.
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I don’t like this old hippie. He bugs me. In one of his other videos, a live performance of “Rhiannon,” he rips Stevie for being baked and hitting a note here and there off pitch. He polishes his vocal training badge and thinks he’s offering a useful corrective to the rest of us benighted listeners (because we lack his training?). He misses the forest for the trees, and I’m fairly sure that his personal hall of fame musicians would be my hall of shame musicians.
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I don’t like this old hippie. He bugs me. In one of his other videos, a live performance of “Rhiannon,” he rips Stevie for being baked and hitting a note here and there off pitch. He polishes his vocal training badge and thinks he’s offering a useful corrective to the rest of us benighted listeners (because we lack his training?). He misses the forest for the trees, and I’m fairly sure that his personal hall of fame musicians would be my hall of shame musicians.
OMG, I had no real opinion of this guy but now I love him for what you just said. As much as I love a baked Stevie (sour cream on side), its fair game to address her being so high on stage. That Mirage Rhiannon was shake and bake and then some. I love Stevie for her raw style.
But I have one question for you. Would you say that to Bob Dylan?
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But I have one question for you. Would you say that to Bob Dylan?
Bob and I have this special sort of connection. You don’t say goodbye to Bob—you say, like, “Later!” Bob knows deep in his heart that I only want to please him and that I need for him to, like, play harmonica on this song to, like, make it OK for everyone.
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