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Old 05-06-2018, 09:22 PM
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The biggest complaint I have of Lindsey is his constant psychobabble as banter. Like, dude, just STFU and play. We don’t need a recap of what you discussed with your therapist. Did every tour have to be about healing or coming to terms with something? Just grab your crotch, tell the world The Eagles can suck it, and bang out IKINW. THAT’S how you do rock!
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:18 AM
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The biggest complaint I have of Lindsey is his constant psychobabble as banter. Like, dude, just STFU and play. We don’t need a recap of what you discussed with your therapist. Did every tour have to be about healing or coming to terms with something? Just grab your crotch, tell the world The Eagles can suck it, and bang out IKINW. THAT’S how you do rock!
I concur. Lindsey treats every stage show and every interview as an opportunity to express his innermost New Age spirituality and holism. Sometimes I think the eye-rolling emoticon was especially invented as a crowd response to a Lindsey Buckingham concert speech.

Some of you guys are talking about how compelling the two new guys might be in Fleetwood Mac. Mike Campbell is ace as the Heartbreakers guitarist, of course, but I can't talk about the other guy. However, I think Fleetwood Mac (or what's left of it) is going to blunt the appeal that these guys have historically. It happened in 1987 on tour. Vito and Burnette didn't sing lead on any new song from Tango (they could have easily done Big Love). I know they sang several Green songs (Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, I Loved Another Woman), and those were some of the high points. But in general, those two felt very underused on that tour. It was like half the band was the real deal, and half the band was the pickup band.

Mick Fleetwood and Stevie are just as likely this year to underuse the new guys. You might go to the concert hoping for full-scale work from both of them, and come away disappointed at the band's inability or unwillingness to incorporate them fully into the stage show. You guys who love Neil Finn's past work are not going to hear it at the Fleetwood Mac concert. Don't kid yourselves. I can't imagine Mick deciding that old Crowded House songs should now be potentially incorporated into FM's storied sets. The new guys will unfortunately be treated on this tour like pickups.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:22 AM
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I'd bet on more than one Stevie solo song, too.

After all, it is her band now.
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:26 AM
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The biggest complaint I have of Lindsey is his constant psychobabble as banter. Like, dude, just STFU and play. We don’t need a recap of what you discussed with your therapist. Did every tour have to be about healing or coming to terms with something? Just grab your crotch, tell the world The Eagles can suck it, and bang out IKINW. THAT’S how you do rock!
To be honest, part of me is convinced that half of that stuff was actually things he did talk about with his therapist which is why he always felt the need to repeat it
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:55 AM
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the funny thing is, way back when Lindsey started doing his long monologues before songs, Stevie was mortified by it.... she thought minimal talking was how you do shows, and every time he'd launch into one of his intros she would stand over by Chris and sorta cringe, and her face was always "is he done now? now? uh, now??" Now for the last however many years she's up there doing endless ramblings.....even before the Ramblin' Stevie solo tour. Maybe it's another sign of their ongoing competitiveness, you know, "If he can talk, I can talk longer!"
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:40 PM
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I'm really going to miss LB. Glad we get solo stuff.. but really wanted an album with the fireflies..

Still in shock he's gone.
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Definitely in shock...I just can't believe that this happened, and that it happened right at the end of their careers. I know this band has its issues-- EVERY band has their issues, but for it to end up like this
Its absolutely pathetic what has occurred. I can't get too worked up over these rich spoiled divas, but its ridiclious that they would end the final quarter of their careers this way.

As much as I love Stevie, I'm super annoyed with her for ruining the opportunity for a final Rumours five album. I was beyond thrilled when Christine came back and I wanted to hear that album more than I wanted to see the tour.

After years of whining that she needed Christine back to do a new album, she gives a BS excuse that there is no point to recording new music because records no longer sell. Now Neil Finn says the band has been talking about recording new music, which will sell even less without Lindsey. It was always obvious that Lindsey was her real issue, but its still disappointing that such amazing opportunity to create new/final album was squandered. I'm happy Buckingham McVie was at least made.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:50 PM
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I have been primarily a Stevie Nicks fan, but I don’t defend her in the face of wrong decisions. Even in my love for Stevie, I will proclaim that Lindsey Buckingham is one of the greatest guitarist/producers in the history of rock n roll. He is the mastermind behind what has become known as the classic Fleetwood Mac sound. Without him, Fleetwood Mac becomes bland and uninspired (reference 87-90). Moreover, if you cannot hear inspiring perfection in iconic tunes like “Never Going Back Again”, “Second Hand News”, “I Know I’m Not Wrong” and “Big Love”, you may be missing an ear for good music. The dismissal of Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac is a musical crime. Shame! I wish the current lineup no ill will, but the decision makers have made a disastrous mistake. #WhoAreYouPeople?
Agreed. I became a fan of FM because of Stevie, but I love Lindsey and Christine just as much. I can actually find something to like in every variation of FM (even BTM and Time eras), but Lindsey was the creative force in this band and the energy of the live shows. When I took my mom to see FM on the last tour, she came along wanting to see Stevie and left being completely mesmerized by Lindsey. He will be severely missed.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:53 PM
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Agreed. I became a fan of FM because of Stevie, but I love Lindsey and Christine just as much. I can actually find something to like in every variation of FM (even BTM and Time eras), but Lindsey was the creative force in this band and the energy of the live shows. When I took my mom to see FM on the last tour, she came along wanting to see Stevie and left being completely mesmerized by Lindsey. He will be severely missed.
I actually don't believe the remaining 4 realize just how much he will be missed. Mick touting a "new band" or saying FM has always been about various incarnations of themselves is just total BS to try to deflect the reality of the situation to fans. He's completely delusional
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Old 05-07-2018, 05:17 PM
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Agreed. I became a fan of FM because of Stevie, but I love Lindsey and Christine just as much. I can actually find something to like in every variation of FM (even BTM and Time eras), but Lindsey was the creative force in this band and the energy of the live shows. When I took my mom to see FM on the last tour, she came along wanting to see Stevie and left being completely mesmerized by Lindsey. He will be severely missed.
I've heard that from quite a few casual fans, who saw them for the first time. They went because of Stevie, but left, saying that Lindsey was the show, with all his energy.

Yet another reason Old Goat Breath wanted him gone.
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:10 PM
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I actually don't believe the remaining 4 realize just how much he will be missed. Mick touting a "new band" or saying FM has always been about various incarnations of themselves is just total BS to try to deflect the reality of the situation to fans. He's completely delusional
with the original classic 4 all over 70, calling it a new band is funny and pathetic and hilarious all at the same time.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:41 PM
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with the original classic 4 all over 70, calling it a new band is funny and pathetic and hilarious all at the same time.
Whaddya mean?? They have their "new" hips, knees and teeth? Mick and John got their "new" viagra prescriptions and everyone's ready to hit the road!!
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:57 PM
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with the original classic 4 all over 70, calling it a new band is funny and pathetic and hilarious all at the same time.
It's quite pathetic, to be honest. You fired someone because of an ultimatum and business issues (logistics/branding/marketing) that followed. All this so you could continue to sign and tour for millions of dollars. That's what happened.

Stop painting it like it's a new band that you're excited to offer the fans.

Luckily for Mick, he knows most of the fans don't care who plays in the band. They want hits. The promoters want hits. $tevie Nick$ will twirl, he'll make faces and they will do this all behind the mask. (pun intended). They will even package the blues FMac in there for the die hard that might be swayed.

What's glaring to me.. and not mentioned often... Is the fact that they mentioned possibly recording with this line-up. That screams of $tevie's hatred of working with Buckingham. And of course her pointed comment about not playing pre-B/N tunes due to a certain member. (classless as usual $tevie)

On a positive note: I'm glad we got BuckVie. I think it's an amazing little album. It demonstrated just how good the four instrumentalists are as a core, and as a team. The chemistry is still there and very tight.

But at what cost. For those of you that believe $tevie was bothered by them doing this album, I agree 100%. There were a few quotes both from $tevie and McVie about her feelings on the album. Christine said something like, "I played it for her and she liked it." And then said something sarcastic. $tevie said she certainly didn't understand the premise. And went into her album $ales speech.

And this is going to sound a bit crazy; but, I didn't see any excitement in Mick during the BuckVie documentary. I heard the words coming out his mouth about how amazing it was for those two to be recording together.. but my spidey sense detected he was a bit uncomfortable with it.

I will say he and John sound amazing on the record. The more I listen to this record, the more I admire it's brevity and sparse arrangements. The vocals are superb and very pleasing to my ears. The two of them singing the chorus on Love Is Here To Stay still gives me old FM goose bumps. And even the cheesy Feel About You gets my judgey friends singing the chorus.

I hope we see more of Lindsey Buckingham. He certainly led the charge in doing what wasn't expected of him. Putting his art before the almighty dollar. And as much as I loved As Long As You Follow and BTM. The wind from the classic line-up dried up eventually and we got the Time album and FMac was dying on the vine. Both financially and in terms of a band with chemistry. At least when LB came back, the nostolgia carried them into validity. And his songs on SYW minus WTWCT... are a bit daring.
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I was all for them recording new music as a five, but SN squandered that opportunity. Now, 4 years on sad to say Christine's voice is completely shot (they have to mix her very low now) and Stevie has a 2 note nasal AF range. LB isn't any better and they should have done this tour and called it quits as a band. Poor Christine sounds like she has 40 teeth rolling around in her mouth when she talks now. NEW band? Please.
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I was all for them recording new music as a five, but SN squandered that opportunity. Now, 4 years on sad to say Christine's voice is completely shot (they have to mix her very low now) and Stevie has a 2 note nasal AF range. LB isn't any better and they should have done this tour and called it quits as a band. Poor Christine sounds like she has 40 teeth rolling around in her mouth when she talks now. NEW band? Please.
The BuckVie album sounds great. Carnival Begin and Feel About You.. stunning..
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I was all for them recording new music as a five, but SN squandered that opportunity. Now, 4 years on sad to say Christine's voice is completely shot (they have to mix her very low now) and Stevie has a 2 note nasal AF range. LB isn't any better and they should have done this tour and called it quits as a band. Poor Christine sounds like she has 40 teeth rolling around in her mouth when she talks now. NEW band? Please.
I agree. I noticed her voice "straining" towards the end of the US leg of OWTS. When they pulled out "Songbird" for a few shows, her wrist was cited, but part of me wondered if it was the strain on her voice. Again, last summer during Buck/McVie--noticed it too.
I just don't see new music coming out of FM--ship has sailed. I don't think they will release anything with the "All-Star" band. It doesn't feel like Mike and Neil are in it for the long haul---even though they said they were...what else are they going to say? I also thought I read somewhere on here--both of them (and Stevie) have commitments in the latter part of 2019.....or are just saying that so they have an "out" to not make this a global tour--should the US leg be less then successful????
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