Christine McVie clarifies comments

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by elle

Mick and his band play bars, vineyards, and tiny clubs. i really don't understand why you think that somehow adding him would expand the venue sizes

That is true about Mick's venues. I think having the Fleetwood name in the billing might draw people who think they're going to see Fleetwood Mac. There are people out there who probably think Mick Fleetwood is Christine
"Oh, honey we'll go see Mick and hear Don't Stop!"

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

If Mick and Lindsey were to do live shows together, I believe it would be billed Mick Fleetwood and Lindsey Buckingham. I can't see Mick as a member of Lindsey's band. Yes he'd play the drums with Lindsey, however I'd see it being Lindsey and Mick's band.
I see them sharing the billing, kind of like Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo, or Matthews and Reynolds

I disagree. Mick isn't a songwriter or singer. He's a drummer. He got famous by hitching his rusty old trailer to singer/songwriter's trailer hitch. I seriously doubt he'd get equal billing. Maybe fine print saying, "featuring MF on drums".

His solo career wasn't much to speak of...

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I disagree. Mick isn't a songwriter or singer. He's a drummer. He got famous by hitching his rusty old trailer to singer/songwriter's trailer hitch. I seriously doubt he'd get equal billing. Maybe fine print saying, "featuring MF on drums".

His solo career wasn't much to speak of...

Well you have Santana and Jeff Beck Group where the namesakes were big names who weren't singers.

If not equal billing, then yea I'd say with special member or guest MF

Mick is famous for the balls!

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

That is true about Mick's venues. I think having the Fleetwood name in the billing might draw people who think they're going to see Fleetwood Mac.

you can't have it both ways - you cannot argue Mick's name fills venues right after acknowledging his name doesn't fill venues and he plays just miniature ones. yes, Fleetwood is known name, yet evidence is there that name alone does not draw people to see him.

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I disagree. Mick isn't a songwriter or singer. He's a drummer. He got famous by hitching his rusty old trailer to singer/songwriter's trailer hitch. I seriously doubt he'd get equal billing. Maybe fine print saying, "featuring MF on drums".

His solo career wasn't much to speak of...

yes, that's the most he could get.

which again, would lead to Mick trying to get a portion of seats in the front for his M&Gs. if his M&Gs don't come with seats, then all good, whoever wants to pay to listen to him rambling is welcome to! did we ever find out how many people bought those Mick m&gs without tickets at the fakewoods' tour?

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by elle

you can't have it both ways - you cannot argue Mick's name fills venues right after acknowledging his name doesn't fill venues and he plays just miniature ones. yes, Fleetwood is known name, yet evidence is there that name alone does not draw people to see him.

Maybe better to say "it can't be both ways" because I don't want to "have" anything

One thing I'd pose is perhaps the evidence out there for Mick's concert attendance draw might not be reflective of his draw now. And it might not be his drumming that draws people but just the word Fleetwood next to Lindsey's name that gets an unusual ticket buyer to bite.

Stevie from 2011-2012 wasn't playing full houses unless they were theatres or casinos. Then in 2016 she was playing the Verizon Center and MSG.
Maybe Mick could do the 930 or the Howard Theatre nowadays bc of TikTok, American Horror Story, and wherever else Mac's been mainstreamed daily.

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

One thing I'd pose is perhaps the evidence out there for Mick's concert attendance draw might not be reflective of his draw now. And it might not be his drumming that draws people but just the word Fleetwood next to Lindsey's name that gets an unusual ticket buyer to bite.

Stevie from 2011-2012 wasn't playing full houses unless they were theatres or casinos. Then in 2016 she was playing the Verizon Center and MSG.
Maybe Mick could do the 930 or the Howard Theatre nowadays bc of TikTok, American Horror Story, and wherever else Mac's been mainstreamed daily.

good point about Stevie's popularity after AHS and possibly similar spike of Mick's popularity after tiktok.

Mick can try touring and see how he's faring. he definitely made a good business decision jumping on that train immediately and being subsequently featured in all tiktok commercials.

so maybe Mac 4 tour without Stevie is something they could try, but after releasing an album first - so hey, they should work on it now since they are stuck at their homes anyway! otherwise, i guess they could do BuckVie part 2 under Fleetwood Mac moniker, but that's rehashing of the tour we already had, so unless they seriously shake up Mac and Buckvie setlists and add stuff like WATLs and Christine's deep cuts, personally i'd have not that much interest in it.

that said, remember in 2018, Christine was going to show up as a special guest at some of the Lindsey solo dates, when he was planning solo gigs in between FM ones.


either way, y'all are getting me off track here - we need Lindsey solo tour first for the new album, once when touring starts again!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by elle

again, adding Mick would likely generate less revenue for LB and the rest of his band - since it seems that's what your main worry is. (it is definitely not mine, Lindsey and Mick should have been set for life long time ago, and definitely now after selling some of their rights.)

One would assume that they would be playing larger venues because there would be more demand.

And, I’m not worried about anything. Lindsey can play smaller venues as a solo artist, Mick can fall back on the blues...Everybody who wants to work can find a way to make a buck.

However, I also get that playing a two hour show to 2500 people is the same amount of work as playing to 4000.

i've heard many breathing a sigh of relief when we found out Mick will not be a part of BuckVie touring band.

“Many on the Internet” is anecdotal. All of the TeamLindsey FB crowd wouldn’t have made up one section of the crowd at a Fleetwood Mac show.

Mick and his band play bars, vineyards, and tiny clubs.

Yeah, and they made a Grammy-nominated album...

Mick Fleetwood on his own isn’t a huge draw. He doesn’t sing or write songs, he’s just a drummer. However, he has the “Fleetwood” name and Lindsey’s most critically acclaimed work was with the “Fleetwood” name. So, for Lindsey, including Mick Fleetwood means a bigger show.

“Fleetwood Buckingham” would get much more attention than either the Mick Fleetwood Blues Band or Lindsey Buckingham.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

He doesn’t sing or write songs.

Did Mick write the orchestral/horns part of Tusk or was that Lindsey?

I know Tusk is listed as written by Lindsey but I thought Mick wrote that horn part that comes in after the drum break

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Did Mick write the orchestral/horns part of Tusk or was that Lindsey?

Mick had the idea to add a brass band, but neither actually wrote the arrangement for the marching band. Neither read music.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Mick had the idea to add a brass band, but neither actually wrote the arrangement for the marching band. Neither read music.

That was it. I remember reading that in Play On now. Mick wanted USC Band to join them at the Forum in 2014 he writes in his book.

If Mac ever did a farewell gig at the LA Coliseum, I'd go for sure just at the chance of the marching band joining for Tusk.

I heard UCLA Band play Satisfaction before the Stones came on at Staples and it was freaking amazing.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Mick is famous for the balls!

Little Daddy doesn't have any balls. $tevie took them.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Little Daddy doesn't have any balls. $tevie took them.

Does Irving hold them along with Leadon's?

[David]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

If Mick and Lindsey were to do live shows together, I believe it would be billed Mick Fleetwood and Lindsey Buckingham. I can't see Mick as a member of Lindsey's band. Yes he'd play the drums with Lindsey, however I'd see it being Lindsey and Mick's band.
I see them sharing the billing, kind of like Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo, or Matthews and Reynolds

If they toured together, they could call it the Young Mr. Rockcock tour. The T-shirts could have all sorts of text designs:

Here we have another
Another piece of glitz

Piggy in the middle
Piggy on the cover

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Does Irving hold them along with Leadon's?

Irving has bigger balls than anyone. And he's worth 350 million.

"He may be Satan, but he's our Satan" - Don Henley

[elle]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

If Mac ever did a farewell gig at the LA Coliseum, I'd go for sure just at the chance of the marching band joining for Tusk.

not sure whether you saw when Lindsey did a Q&A at USC several years back, and it ended with him and USC marching band doing Tusk and GYOW. USC dept that organized it put the whole thing on youtube, very bice recording and very cool gig.