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Old 05-09-2014, 02:01 PM
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Ok, I wanted to write and put some stuff out there in the most blunt way I can, because there seems to be a lot of speculation and stuff going on and it’s pissing me off, so here it goes:

Christine Coming back: HEY, it’s a great thing, I never ever thought it would happen, and I am truly excited and the fact that she is and wants to record new music is even better, her music is sorely missed, and it’s a wonderful thing that I never thought would happen
Tour Ticket Prices : bottom line, it’s a freaking rip off, and FM is really pricing us regular fans out of the market, I understand Chris is back but Jesus they just toured last year, and they truly expect fans to pay double again this year, in this economy, I just don’t get it. They don’t have a touring fan base like Bon Jovi, Bruce, or even The Eagles so honestly they are taking a HUGE chance by having these prices, meaning they could see some poor selling shows ONLY because of the prices not lack of interest. Bottom line, it’s laughable these ticket prices

Stevie recording on her own: I am NOT a SN fan at all, especially solo, BUT she has earned the right to so whatever she wants, she is set for life and paid her dues, so she has every right to do what she wants. That being said, the one thing she said she wanted is Chris back or else she wasn’t interested in FM, Chris is back, and yet she is MIA, doesn’t make sense. And she poured her heart into IYD and the record company promoted it well, she had public appearances, heck even some dumb movie thing that was in the theaters, and ALL of that equaled a bomb of a album, Now, don’t get me wrong I haven’t heard IYD, maybe it’s good, but the bottom line it didn’t sell crap, and people can say all the excused about older artist, etc, whatever , Beyonce sells record, etc, yes I understand the demographics, etc, but IYD bombed bottom line, no excuse can be made for it, so why Stevie wants to record another solo record is beyond me, it won’t sell, yes it will debut at #5, 6, but then it will fall quickly, so why record it ? UNLESS she is recording for pure joy then more power to her, but SN doesn’t strike me like LB when it comes to sales, I think she CARES about it, and IYD sold nothing so why bother with another solo record when she can record with FM and get more exposure. Im taking purely business, so it doesn’t make sense, and if she is making a country record, then I am calling total sell out for doing that, because country is the thing now, and she would be a sell out if she does that. My point is, if she is recording for HERSELF and doesn’t care about sales (which she does) then great for her, but if she truly thinks a solo record will sell now a days after IYD and all the parts that came with it, didn’t sell, then she is crazy and delusional. A FM record is her best shot at sales and exposure and the fact that she doesn’t seem interested is pretty dumb

Lindsey producing, maybe upset at Stevie: Like someone said, Lindsey sort of pulled his own act in 1987, so as much as I love him, hey, the shoes on the other foot, and im sorry but for the MOST part, all of FM success has been with Lindsey at the controls so why change now ?, he is the lynch pin of FM and the genius behind it so I don’t get peoples wanting him to not produce, anytime he has been in control , the album succeeds, SYW maybe not as much, but it was critically acclaimed. But, whatever, I just think with LB in control, things tend to go well

FM missing the chance for a album: They will tour and im sure the tour will be a success because of nostalgia, but I swear if they don’t release a new album soon, they will miss a chance, they are not getting younger and their chances in today’s market are slim, and if they pull a Dance, where they wait YEARS until they release a album, that will be the dumbest thing in the world, I don’t understand how they think people will pay top dollar for this tour, and then release a album, tour again, charge high again and what ? People will pay again? Makes no sense. The time is so right to release an album, with Chris back, chances are strong for top sales, but something inside makes me think they will miss the boat and then complain at the end. I just hope they aren’t giving themselves to much credit, they aren’t Bon Jovi, Bruce, or Eagles, they can’t afford anymore to sit around and wait, and tour, etc, I mean they can, but they will lose all chances of being relevant on the charts. Sadly Bon Jovi and the Eagles can do that, not sure why, LOL, but they can, FM cannot any more, this isn’t 1997 or even 2003 and they really need to realize that

That’s it for now

David
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:10 PM
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Well, eh...I basicly agree?
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:22 PM
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Ok, I wanted to write and put some stuff out there in the most blunt way I can, because there seems to be a lot of speculation and stuff going on and it’s pissing me off, so here it goes:

Christine Coming back: HEY, it’s a great thing, I never ever thought it would happen, and I am truly excited and the fact that she is and wants to record new music is even better, her music is sorely missed, and it’s a wonderful thing that I never thought would happen
Tour Ticket Prices : bottom line, it’s a freaking rip off, and FM is really pricing us regular fans out of the market, I understand Chris is back but Jesus they just toured last year, and they truly expect fans to pay double again this year, in this economy, I just don’t get it. They don’t have a touring fan base like Bon Jovi, Bruce, or even The Eagles so honestly they are taking a HUGE chance by having these prices, meaning they could see some poor selling shows ONLY because of the prices not lack of interest. Bottom line, it’s laughable these ticket prices

Stevie recording on her own: I am NOT a SN fan at all, especially solo, BUT she has earned the right to so whatever she wants, she is set for life and paid her dues, so she has every right to do what she wants. That being said, the one thing she said she wanted is Chris back or else she wasn’t interested in FM, Chris is back, and yet she is MIA, doesn’t make sense. And she poured her heart into IYD and the record company promoted it well, she had public appearances, heck even some dumb movie thing that was in the theaters, and ALL of that equaled a bomb of a album, Now, don’t get me wrong I haven’t heard IYD, maybe it’s good, but the bottom line it didn’t sell crap, and people can say all the excused about older artist, etc, whatever , Beyonce sells record, etc, yes I understand the demographics, etc, but IYD bombed bottom line, no excuse can be made for it, so why Stevie wants to record another solo record is beyond me, it won’t sell, yes it will debut at #5, 6, but then it will fall quickly, so why record it ? UNLESS she is recording for pure joy then more power to her, but SN doesn’t strike me like LB when it comes to sales, I think she CARES about it, and IYD sold nothing so why bother with another solo record when she can record with FM and get more exposure. Im taking purely business, so it doesn’t make sense, and if she is making a country record, then I am calling total sell out for doing that, because country is the thing now, and she would be a sell out if she does that. My point is, if she is recording for HERSELF and doesn’t care about sales (which she does) then great for her, but if she truly thinks a solo record will sell now a days after IYD and all the parts that came with it, didn’t sell, then she is crazy and delusional. A FM record is her best shot at sales and exposure and the fact that she doesn’t seem interested is pretty dumb

Lindsey producing, maybe upset at Stevie: Like someone said, Lindsey sort of pulled his own act in 1987, so as much as I love him, hey, the shoes on the other foot, and im sorry but for the MOST part, all of FM success has been with Lindsey at the controls so why change now ?, he is the lynch pin of FM and the genius behind it so I don’t get peoples wanting him to not produce, anytime he has been in control , the album succeeds, SYW maybe not as much, but it was critically acclaimed. But, whatever, I just think with LB in control, things tend to go well

FM missing the chance for a album: They will tour and im sure the tour will be a success because of nostalgia, but I swear if they don’t release a new album soon, they will miss a chance, they are not getting younger and their chances in today’s market are slim, and if they pull a Dance, where they wait YEARS until they release a album, that will be the dumbest thing in the world, I don’t understand how they think people will pay top dollar for this tour, and then release a album, tour again, charge high again and what ? People will pay again? Makes no sense. The time is so right to release an album, with Chris back, chances are strong for top sales, but something inside makes me think they will miss the boat and then complain at the end. I just hope they aren’t giving themselves to much credit, they aren’t Bon Jovi, Bruce, or Eagles, they can’t afford anymore to sit around and wait, and tour, etc, I mean they can, but they will lose all chances of being relevant on the charts. Sadly Bon Jovi and the Eagles can do that, not sure why, LOL, but they can, FM cannot any more, this isn’t 1997 or even 2003 and they really need to realize that

That’s it for now

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Old 05-10-2014, 10:07 PM
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I want Lindsey to produce Fleetwood Mac too. Dave should only produce Stevie's solo stuff. That being said, It's pretty clear that she has probably been working with Dave off and on since IYD. She is only doing the FM record because of Chris.

I do think that at this stage of the game Nicks can do what she wants to do. She doesn't need the money. She knows the album won't sale. If it makes it costs back she would probably be happy. This record is about the joy of making a record. She is trying to recreate the making of IYD. Have that good experience again.

Who knows. She might have a surprise in store for her. Maybe she will enjoy the process since everyone is together again. Maybe she will come up with some magic.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:39 PM
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I just hope they aren’t giving themselves to much credit, they aren’t Bon Jovi, Bruce, or Eagles, they can’t afford anymore to sit around and wait, and tour, etc, I mean they can, but they will lose all chances of being relevant on the charts.
They lost that somewhere around December of 1990. Got the "nostalgia buzz" of 1997, then lost it again about Februrary of 1998...and they ain't getting' it back...EV-ER!!!

Not going to make a difference to me what they do. I still have some tiny minuscule interest because I've been a fan since their inception in '67; but, they've really been doing everything they can to get me to just write 'em off completely, which would probably be the best thing for me personally, but they're like heroin...no matter how many times one quits, the craving NEVER goes away.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:56 AM
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I'm really with you Chilli on this one and keep an interest in this band mostly based on their rich history and lately it's been about the pre- Stevie and Lindsey era as they created some truly marvellous music in those few short years. Robert Plant couldn't have summed it up better recently when he scoffed off these never-ending nostalgia tours that Fleetwood Mac has been rolling out in since making a bit of an effort with the edgy Say You Will back in 03-04. With Christine back in the fold, I am just flabbergasted but not at all surprised, that making that new album is not the primary focus and going out on tour for another money-making trek is just not acceptable to me as a fan. I will not pay that much to see them, as much as I love the band especially without a healthy crop of new songs. As I've said in many posts, the number of Rumours tracks in a set in 2014 should be whittled down to about 3 classics by now. Ignoring the early years and not making enough new music is just not on for me. Sorry Christine, love ya to bits but wanting to hear your creativity, not songs I've seen you perform a hundred times.
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