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Old 12-11-2018, 10:54 AM
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I have a HUGE problem with him saying that $tevie being needy for a certain kind of attention and that she gets jealous of other people's vitality.

We would never say anything like that here at TL. Because this is an awful place and should be destroyed!!
I agree with your first paragraph, because I think one could argue of Lindsey being guilty of also wanting attention.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that as far as I know, we still don't know exactly what he did to make Stevie so furious. When Azoff called him and said, in his words, "You've done it now!", WHAT was it? The interviewer asked Lindsey if he knew what it was, and Lindsey claimed he didn't know. This alludes then, that Stevie went off the handle, for no reason whatsoever, and the rest of the band went along with that illogical thinking. I have a hard time believing that. He did SOMETHING. I hope to hear Stevie's side at some point.

I have not read every article, so if I'm missing something, please let me know.

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Old 12-11-2018, 10:58 AM
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I agree with your first paragraph, because I think one could argue of Lindsey being guilty of also wanting attention.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that as far as I know, we still don't know exactly what he did to make Stevie so furious. When Azoff called him and said, in his words, "You've done it now!", WHAT was it? The interviewer asked Lindsey if he knew what it was, and Lindsey claimed he didn't know. This alludes then, that Stevie went off the handle, for no reason whatsoever, and the rest of the band went along with that illogical thinking. I have a hard time believing that. He did SOMETHING. I hope to hear Stevie's side at some point.

I have not read every article, so if I'm missing something, please let me know.

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Jamie... I swear on my life, I was just telling Elle about 30 min ago, that you have been gone for a bit. I summoned you!! lol
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Old 12-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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Jamie... I swear on my life, I was just telling Elle about 30 min ago, that you have been gone for a bit. I summoned you!! lol
Ha! Yeah, you and Lindsey summoned me! No, I've been busy with getting a new job and the transitioning that goes with that. Figured I'd check in here though for a change of pace.


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Old 12-11-2018, 11:05 AM
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I agree with your first paragraph, because I think one could argue of Lindsey being guilty of also wanting attention.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that as far as I know, we still don't know exactly what he did to make Stevie so furious. When Azoff called him and said, in his words, "You've done it now!", WHAT was it? The interviewer asked Lindsey if he knew what it was, and Lindsey claimed he didn't know. This alludes then, that Stevie went off the handle, for no reason whatsoever, and the rest of the band went along with that illogical thinking. I have a hard time believing that. He did SOMETHING. I hope to hear Stevie's side at some point.

I have not read every article, so if I'm missing something, please let me know.

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Jamie, Stevie was plotting it with Mick and Azoff etc. from some time in 2017 but they had to wait until MusiCares was finished to pull it off. That's the prevailing theory that makes most sense from the totality of all the information at hand, particularly since 2017 onward.

There was no "big wrong thing at MusiCares" that Lindsey did, as much as the occasional diehard Stevie defender may wish to fantasize there was. He smirked? Christine and Mick were waltzing!

And AncientQueen, Lindsey himself makes it clear in at least the Stereogum article that it was Stevie, not the rest of the band, who wanted him gone. I feel sorry for any diehard Stevie supporter who feels obligated by their loyalty to Stevie into inconceivably twisting all the existing information to make it appear otherwise.
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I feel sorry for any diehard Stevie supporter who feels obligated by their loyalty to Stevie into inconceivably twisting all the existing information to make it appear otherwise.
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[QUOTE=jkmaletic;1245595]I agree with your first paragraph, because I think one could argue of Lindsey being guilty of also wanting attention.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that as far as I know, we still don't know exactly what he did to make Stevie so furious. When Azoff called him and said, in his words, "You've done it now!", WHAT was it? The interviewer asked Lindsey if he knew what it was, and Lindsey claimed he didn't know. This alludes then, that Stevie went off the handle, for no reason whatsoever, and the rest of the band went along with that illogical thinking. I have a hard time believing that. He did SOMETHING. I hope to hear Stevie's side at some point.

I have not read every article, so if I'm missing something, please let me know.

Jamie


His comments regarding not knowing what he’s done open up the opportunity to hear from Stevie and/or Mick as to why his smirk was the straw that broke the camels back, and Mick and Christine waltzing in mock of her was okay. I would agree, it makes sense there is more to it. But why lie about it in April. In other words, let’s hear it Stevie. If nothing is forthcoming, we can surmise the Rumours 5 lineup was taken down singlehandedly, by one woman’s temper tantrum. And that is extremely sad
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:27 PM
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Anyway, the point I wanted to make was that as far as I know, we still don't know exactly what he did to make Stevie so furious. When Azoff called him and said, in his words, "You've done it now!", WHAT was it? The interviewer asked Lindsey if he knew what it was, and Lindsey claimed he didn't know. This alludes then, that Stevie went off the handle, for no reason whatsoever, and the rest of the band went along with that illogical thinking. I have a hard time believing that. He did SOMETHING. I hope to hear Stevie's side at some point.
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I initially thought this might be the case but several months have passed, Lindsey has openly criticized the band's decision without a hint of irony or guilt, and no one has challenged him. This more than suggests to me that he didn't do anything tangible or concrete. She was just tired of working with him because she couldn't get over past arguments and problems. Moreover, Lindsey has been lobbying for new music for the past five or six years. The more he does this--and the more it's apparent that Christine herself is willing to do this--the more she has ratcheted up the anger and the bitterness.

To many of us, it's become clear that one of the major issues here is precisely what he has just identified: she is jealous of his creativity and continued vitality. I seriously doubt she has written anything new in a long, long time. Does she have a song left? If she doesn't that in itself is not a problem. Joni Mitchell experienced the same thing. However, Stevie won't come clean about it or admit it. Instead, she is hell bent on painting him as a jealous villain. And she didn't say one supportive thing about the Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie album.
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I initially thought this might be the case but several months have passed, Lindsey has openly criticized the band's decision without a hint of irony or guilt, and no one has challenged him. This more than suggests to me that he didn't do anything tangible or concrete. She was just tired of working with him because she couldn't get over past arguments and problems. Moreover, Lindsey has been lobbying for new music for the past five or six years. The more he does this--and the more it's apparent that Christine herself is willing to do this--the more she has ratcheted up the anger and the bitterness.

To many of us, it's become clear that one of the major issues here is precisely what he has just identified: she is jealous of his creativity and continued vitality. I seriously doubt she has written anything new in a long, long time. Does she have a song left? If she doesn't that in itself is not a problem. Joni Mitchell experienced the same thing. However, Stevie won't come clean about it or admit it. Instead, she is hell bent on painting him as a jealous villain. And she didn't say one supportive thing about the Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie album.
In fact, she said she didn't understand the premise. And, Christine even joked about Stevie's reaction to it.

And we all know at the end of the day, that album and tour bugged the crap out of her.
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In fact, she said she didn't understand the premise.
I remember that. What a ridiculous comment! I remember being appalled by it.
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