Say You Will - Page 4

vivfox · #46 08-16-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brysondt

No. Oh no.

I did not know "Silver Girl" was about Sheryl. I mean...I like Sheryl and all, but damn...just no.

For some reason, I like it when Stevie is singing about herself, lol. This is also one of my least favorite songs on SYW and now maybe I know why. Don't get me wrong, really, I think Sheryl Crow is an admirable artist. I just...nevermind...lol

Not All of us, but Most of us Ledgies can't stand the song Silver Girl. Though a lot of us love Sheryl's music, we just wish Stevie could have come up with a better melody for the song she wrote about Sheryl.

P.S. Did I ever tell you how thrilled I am that you post here on The Ledge?

markolas · #47 08-16-2009, 12:04 PM

I honestly never understood what everyone hated about "Silver Girl." I don't think it's the greatest thing Stevie ever wrote, but it's pleasant enough. Yet many Ledgies seem to foam at the mouth at its mere mention. That I never understood.

Black_Moon · #48 08-16-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas

I honestly never understood what everyone hated about "Silver Girl." I don't think it's the greatest thing Stevie ever wrote, but it's pleasant enough. Yet many Ledgies seem to foam at the mouth at its mere mention. That I never understood.

Because the lyrics are absolutely horrendous, well, that's the main reason for me. As soon as she says 'lost in a hi-tech world' I immediately wince, and then realise I'm about to do it again at 'girlie girl' and 'she's got a million bucks'.

michelej1 · #49 08-16-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cristochango

I liked the album, I just thought that it needed some piano on it, if they record another album I think there should be more piano on it

If Christine records another album, I think there should be more piano in it than there was in Meantime.

Michele

michelej1 · #50 08-16-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brysondt

For some reason, I like it when Stevie is singing about herself, lol. This is also one of my least favorite songs on SYW and now maybe I know why. Don't get me wrong, really, I think Sheryl Crow is an admirable artist. I just...nevermind...lol

I think to an extent that Stevie is always singing about herself. Yes, Think About It may be about Christine, but it's about Stevie too, as far as I'm concerned.

Michele

daniellaaarisen · #51 08-16-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I think to an extent that Stevie is always singing about herself. Yes, Think About It may be about Christine, but it's about Stevie too, as far as I'm concerned.

Michele

As a writer, it is very hard to separate ANYTHING from yourself. If fiction writers can't keep themselves out of their work, there's no doubt in my mind that Stevie, and autobiographical fairy princess songwriter, is a strong, strong component in everything she's ever written. Ever.

I think "Silver Girl" is about her similarities to Sheryl.

golddustdrummer · #52 08-18-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brysondt

No. Oh no.

I did not know "Silver Girl" was about Sheryl. I mean...I like Sheryl and all, but damn...just no.

For some reason, I like it when Stevie is singing about herself, lol. This is also one of my least favorite songs on SYW and now maybe I know why. Don't get me wrong, really, I think Sheryl Crow is an admirable artist. I just...nevermind...lol

I'll never be able to listen to it again without thinking about Sheryl.
*#^@&$%!!

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Originally Posted by Black_Moon

Because the lyrics are absolutely horrendous, well, that's the main reason for me. As soon as she says 'lost in a hi-tech world' I immediately wince, and then realise I'm about to do it again at 'girlie girl' and 'she's got a million bucks'.

I wince there and when she says "hardcore world"
like...wtf.

GypsyBlueEyes · #53 08-18-2009, 08:12 PM

I really love the Say You Will album. I'm not saying that I love every song that was included, but on the whole, I've enjoyed it. Without Christine in the mix, the sound is a lot more edgy...and aggressive perhaps. Don't get me wrong, I do miss Christine's contributions, I just enjoyed the different sound of this album. I will never understand why they used the version of Say Goodbye that they did...I think the slower, softer version sounds a lot better. I will also never understand why those kids were included on Say You Will...the sound of the end of that song makes me cringe. I love Peacekeeper, Everybody Finds Out, Destiny Rules, Goodbye Baby, Thrown Down, Bleed To Love Her, and Smile At You.

Black_Moon · #54 08-18-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

I'll never be able to listen to it again without thinking about Sheryl.
*#^@&$%!!

And you have me to thank for that!

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I wince there and when she says "hardcore world"
like...wtf.

Yeah, God awful lyric. For someone who's all into the aesthetics of words, it shows no eloquence at all. I mean, all she had to do is get up Microsoft Word and use the thesauraus for "tough".

Plus, hardcore makes it sound like Sheryl was in the porn industry.

markolas · #55 08-18-2009, 09:39 PM

I dunno, I kind of like that the lyrics are fairly straightforward on Silver Girl. I prefer it to hearing Stevie sing about her "flaming walls" on Smile At You.

Artemis · #56 08-29-2009, 08:57 PM

I bought Say You Will recently, despite having it on my PC for a good few months, and I found myself enjoying it a lot more than I had before. Although I DID miss Christine being there, I thought it was a really solid album, although I think 18 tracks was a little too much to make Say You Will work as well as it could/should have.

I think both Lindsey and Stevie have three songs that could be cut from the album, which I think would end up leaving it pretty amazing -

Lindsey -

Murrow Turning Over In His Grave - I don't like this song that much, but the part where he repeats "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" just really grates on me
Red Rover - Couldn't really get into this one, too fragmented for my liking.
Come - Again, couldn't really get into it. I think I might need to listen to it a few more times though.

Stevie -

Illume - I know it's a popular song, but I don't really like it, it just sorta...plods along D=
Silver Girl - by far the WORST song on the album, comparable to When I See You Again from Tango >_>
Smile At You - I REALLY hate this version, especially compared to the "angry" Mirage demo, compared to that version, the Say You Will version really seems weak.

As for the rest of the album -

What's The World Coming To - It's a good song, and a nice way to open the album.

Thrown Down - One of the best songs on the album, I love the guitar work on this song, and Stevie's vocals and lyrics are really strong, very catchy.

Miranda - I love it. The guitar is amazing, again, and the chorus is to die for. I love Stevie's harmonizing in this song, but it's one of my favourite Lindsey songs.

Say You Will - I think this is more like a Christine song than a Stevie song, and I can almost picture Christine singing it. It sounds like a classic Fleetwood Mac song, but then it's ruined by the children at the end.

Peacekeeper - I love the harmonizing in this one and the "Ah ah ah ah ah" parts in the chorus.

Running Through The Garden - The best song on the album, in my opinion. Everything about it works, the guitar solo, Lindsey's harmonies, and some really strong vocal work from Stevie, it's great. And, I know she isn't credited, but I swear I can hear Christine on this song >_> But I think that's just me xD

Steal Your Heart Away - I love how catchy this song is, and Christine really helps with the chorus, their voices all harmonize so brilliantly.

Bleed To Love Her - I prefer the version on The Dance, but it's still a great song.

Everybody Finds Out - I'm addicted to this song lately, I love how it starts quietly but then erupts. It's one of Stevie's strongest performances vocally on the album, in my opinion.

Destiny Rules - I love how this song follows Everybody Finds Out, as it sorta teases with the whole Stevie / Lindsey thing, but that's a whole different topic xD It's a great song though.

Say Goodbye - I love the guitar work on this song, although I think it's a little too fast. It's a great song from Lindsey though, and I think it really works.

Goodbye Baby - I like this song, and Stevie's quieter vocal, and I think it's a great way to round off the album.

So...yeah. I think if they'd cut the album down to ten tracks, and kept the best songs, it would have been one of the best Fleetwood Mac albums ever, it would be in my own personal top three (behind Rumours and The White Album) but there was just too much to make it as great as it should have been.

(Whew! I think I got carried away with my post there, first post and all that. Long time lurker, first time signing up and posting >_>)

cristochango · #57 08-29-2009, 10:36 PM

after listenin to this whole album I think my top 2 albums by the mac are

1. tusk
2. rumours / say you will

gldstwmn · #58 08-30-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tr1

So I finally went to buy "Say You Will". For some reason I never got it. But I was dying to hear "Say Goodbye". So I go to the record store (yes, a record store) in Pasadena, Ca. I find a used CD for $8.99. But it's just a plain cover. Not the picture cover. So I start whining to the guy if that's the only one they have and could they check if they have a cover for it. He says no and I buy it anyways. Now at this store they keep the actual CD packages behind the counter. So he gives it to me and it looks like a little book. The pictures are all glossy and clear and it has a second CD with a few extra songs. I guess it was the deluxe edition which I didn't know existed. Needless to say, I am now very happy and listening to it. But I must say I think I prefer the live version of "Say Goodbye". The best live version being from the DVD of the show in Boston in 2004. I wish that one was on the CD for that DVD. It's the most emotional one I've heard. That's what made me fall in love with that song. Anyways, just my little story.

Lindsey's Soundstage also contains a great version of Say Goodbye, which I think is available both on disc and iTunes as part of Under The Skin.