Greeny & Duane Allman 1970 session?

[obsess5]

Using Cussion's information, I located the Grateful Dead concert that includes Pete and Duane: February 11, 1970. The link takes you to the Internet Archive of the sound recordings of the concert in MP3 and other formats. (Over 3,000 other Grateful Dead concerts are archived there. I'm a relatively new convert to the Grateful Dead. Any GD fans know of a concise or searchable repository of guest musicians at GD concerts? Without Cussion's information, it would have just been blind luck to stumble on a concert that had Peter Green.)

From the recording notes:

COMMENTS Late Show. Total time 1:26:37 +. Duane Allman's guitar is audible from near the beginning of Dark Star through the end of the set; Gregg Allman adds organ & vocals during Lovelight, and Berry Oakley plays a second bass on Lovelight. According to Kenny Schachat, who attended the show, the guitarist audible starting about 2:30 into Dark Star and for several minutes thereafter is Peter Green, not Duane, who enters around the middle of Dark Star.

"Spanish Jam" (follows "Dark Star") sounds like live Fleetwood Mac, although Pete's guitar (I assume) is faint. Perhaps someone with a better ear for guitar players can listen to "Dark Star" on and tell us when to listen for Peter's playing.

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by obsess5

Using Cussion's information, I located the Grateful Dead concert that includes Pete and Duane: February 11, 1970. The link takes you to the Internet Archive of the sound recordings of the concert in MP3 and other formats. (Over 3,000 other Grateful Dead concerts are archived there. I'm a relatively new convert to the Grateful Dead. Any GD fans know of a concise or searchable repository of guest musicians at GD concerts? Without Cussion's information, it would have just been blind luck to stumble on a concert that had Peter Green.)

From the recording notes:

"Spanish Jam" (follows "Dark Star") sounds like live Fleetwood Mac, although Pete's guitar (I assume) is faint. Perhaps someone with a better ear for guitar players can listen to "Dark Star" on and tell us when to listen for Peter's playing.

Then there is also the following show from feb. 1, 1970 wher Peter joined on Turn On Your Lovelight
Here's the link: http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-...629.sbeok.shnf

[sharksfan2000]

Digging up an old thread here, but I just came upon a photo that helps clarify who is in the famous Mac/Dead/Allmans photo above. This one shows just the Dead from what's supposed to be the same evening:



And more of a close-up view of the group jam shot here:



So that's clearly Mickey Hart on the far right of the photo showing members of all three bands. And it's almost certainly Danny Kirwan with his back to the camera, between Bob Weir and Gregg Allman. And that's got to be Duane Allman rather than Phil Lesh right behind Gregg (he's playing a guitar, not a bass), so Phil Lesh doesn't seem to be in the shot.

[lazy poker]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

So that's clearly Mickey Hart on the far right of the photo showing members of all three bands. And it's almost certainly Danny Kirwan with his back to the camera, between Bob Weir and Gregg Allman. And that's got to be Duane Allman rather than Phil Lesh right behind Gregg (he's playing a guitar, not a bass), so Phil Lesh doesn't seem to be in the shot.

i don't wanna make matters any worse and i certainly don't think i can qualify for being any more in the know - but to my weary old eyes the identities of danny k. and duane a. look just the other way round to your opinion, sharksfan . . . ?!?!?!?

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by lazy poker

i don't wanna make matters any worse and i certainly don't think i can qualify for being any more in the know - but to my weary old eyes the identities of danny k. and duane a. look just the other way round to your opinion, sharksfan . . . ?!?!?!?

Of course it's really hard to say without seeing their faces. A couple of things led me to think the guy with his back turned is Danny. I looked at a number of other photos of both Danny and Duane from that period, and Danny had straighter hair, like the guy in front. Also it seems more likely that Duane would have stuck closer to his other band members, and so being between Gregg and Butch Trucks in that photo makes sense. Peter and Mick are already in the front, so perhaps Danny too?

But I've certainly thought the same way you do, lazy poker...just leaning the other way right now.

[FuzzyPlum]

Definitely agree its more likely to be Danny at the front and Duane at the back. Duane's hair was a bit more wavey at the ends. Also, Danny would have been much more likely to have worn a plain top. Duane would have been more likely to wear a patterned shirt like the guy at the back- possibly even tie-dye.

PS
I'd like to imagine Danny was turned around as he and Duane were particularly playing off each other.

[FuzzyPlum]

Grateful Dead Teams With Members Of Allman Brothers, Fleetwood Mac & More In 1970

https://www.jambase.com/article/grat...twood-mac-1970


The Fillmore East in NYC hosted many legendary concerts over the course of its short existence, but arguably the most epic affair took place on this date in 1970. How’s this for a lineup? Arthur Lee & Love followed by the Allman Brothers Band and the Grateful Dead. Not too shabby, huh? Yet add in that the Dead’s main set ended with an insane Superjam that saw the band joined by Duane Allman, Gregg Allman, Mick Fleetwood, Butch Trucks, Danny Kirwin, Peter Green and Berry Oakley.

The Superjam segment of the Dead’s set started off with a “Dark Star” that was jammed into the thematic “Spanish Jam” and comes to close with a near 30-minute “Turn On Your Lovelight.” Phil Lesh discussed the evening extensively in his 2005 auto-biography Searching For The Sound. Lesh reveals that the collaboration came together organically, so much so that Phil was surprised when he heard Duane Allman’s slide and realized someone was sitting in. The bassist calls the resulting music, “a surprisingly coherent free-for-all, with five guitarists, four drummers, organ, and – Pigpen roaring over it all.” Phil was impressed by Gregg Allman’s voice, writing Gregg sounded “like a fifty-year-old black man even then.” Lesh was more than happy to turn over bass duties to Berry Oakley during “Turn On Your Lovelight” when Phil told the ABB bassist, “I just want to listen to this for a while.”