Lieberman concedes

[markolas]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Also - you do not see that if SH had complied a decade before, the war in Iraq would have been unnecessary. So, while I cannot stand W for truncating the inspections and rushing into Iraq with no plan to win the peace and some trumped up evidence, I have to say that SH's lack of cooperation for 10+ years sure made it easy for W to do so.

It made it easiER. If SH had complied, Bush would've found another reason to invade. I don't believe it had anything to do with WMD. That was just a convenient excuse.

[strandinthewind]

Well, not really. Al-Q was the only one in recent history I suppose OKC could be counted, but I am unsure or unconvinced that AlQ did not have their hand in that one as well.

But, I agree that the problems in the Middle East cannot be repaired, if at all, by this or any other war. For the Middle East problems to be resolved, the US must pull all support from Israel (as a huge start) - and that will NEVER happen.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by markolas

It made it easiER. If SH had complied, Bush would've found another reason to invade. I don't believe it had anything to do with WMD. That was just a convenient excuse.

I am unsure he could have found any excuse if SH had complied. But, I suppose we will never know. Of course, had SH complied during any administration, that could have provided a more peaceful avenue to the oil. Interestingly, the US still does not have Iraq's oil and France and Russia have made billions off of Iraq while it was under "UN" watch, etc. One day, hopefully, all will be known.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

For the Middle East problems to be resolved, the US must pull all support from Israel (as a huge start) - and that will NEVER happen.

What do you know, we finally agree on something.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by markolas

What do you know, we finally agree on something.

We agree far more than you think.

For example, like you, I am not a huge fan of L. I just think that ousting him for this unknown and on an issue that was one of many - perhaps was not the wisest thing to do.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am unsure he could have found any excuse if SH had complied.

It's not like he would've needed one anyway. The rest of the country would be too wrapped up in Tom Cruise's baby to even notice.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by markolas

It's not like he would've needed one anyway. The rest of the country would be too wrapped up in Tom Cruise's baby to even notice.

I submit Clinton would have done it as well. Interestingly, I still say that the average American cares not one foock about whether SH was complicit in 9/11 because most Americans want the Middle East destroyed and all "towel heads" with it. Therein lies the problem.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I submit Clinton would have done it as well.

He's not much better than Lieberman, in my book. And neither is Hillary.

Interestingly, I still say that the average American cares not one foock about whether SH was complicit in 9/11 because most Americans want the Middle East destroyed and all "towel heads" with it. Therein lies the problem.

Of course they don't. Most Americans hate them as much as they hate us. Everyone looks out for number one and hates everyone else. And it's just getting worse. Hence my statement that the human race has about 200 years left, at most.

[markolas]

And greed, greed, greed. Businesses are out to take your hard-earned money, and most of them *hate* poor people. If you live paycheck-to-paycheck, watch out. They'll stick it to you, and then if you can't pay, they'll report you to the blacklist known as the credit bureau. That's another big f-ing racket. Have you taken a look at an apartment leasing contract lately? If you have even one rough month, they're waiting like vultures circling a dead armadillo.